£750 AUTO FLEX golf shaft! | swing EASIER for LONGER drives?
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
- £750 AUTO FLEX golf shaft! | swing EASIER for LONGER drives?
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Hi I’m Rick Shiels, welcome to my channel RickShielsPGAGolf. This UA-cam channel is designed to help you play better golf, also to help you enjoy your golf more!
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Im gonna be honest with you rick, i love your channel and content. Everyday watching you, makes me a better golfer.
Was this video filmed before the........ garage roof incident?
@@r.w3800 well if u look at his driver, it’s the yellow one, which he destroyed the roof with the white one, so I’m assuming it was after
Good Morning From New Zealand.... I am so inconsistent it's not funny..... 180 yrds with a PW, 200 with a driver... Go figure 🤣🤣🤣 Love these videos...... Cheers.
@@janestorero thx, I just was thinking about that whilst watching lol.
“I’ve got a shaft today that has really got me excited.” Rick Shiels - 2020
That's a good way to end the year.
It should be I got really excited and got a shaft today, older guys will know what I'm saying.
pink shaft... don't forget the pink
😂😂😂
Bahaahhahahahahahahahahah!
"I've never seen a lighter, more flexible shaft go longer or straighter" - Rick Shiels 2020
🤣🤣🤣
I don’t get it
such lies
“Soft pink shaft” that happens when you get to a certain age Rick 😂
"grow up" he liked the comment!! Rick is the best!! I'm dying
Rick is a legend, so down to earth, no ego like a lot of people on here and sounds like he’s just enjoying his life and having a laugh. Proper legend
Last name checks out
I am old. True that. The Ping stuff is meant to say as well.
Ive seen hundreds of gimmicks come and go.
I still get beat by an old guy with 20 year old pings.
Definitely would love see Rick doing a fit with TXG down the road. Be a great collaboration video for the Agnostic golfers. Thanks for the video Rick!
@Jonathan Sliwinski that you see in the final cut ;) they are a sales team.
I was just fitted for a Driver. I ends up with the Autoflex shaft and a Stealth Head. Im 22 yards longer on average than my previous driver. I’m now hitting the ball 272 yards on average. The shaft absolutely works for me. My fitter (top 50 fitters golf digest) mentioned that these shafts aren’t for everyone. It definitely works for me. Nest shaft I’ve ever had.
Literally wasn't thinking of any 'pink shaft' jokes until you made a comment about it Rick🤣🤣🤣
lets hear em lol
Same bro
Informative and entertaining video. However, at 70 years of age and one who plays soft balls I'm afraid that a shaft that stiffens as I swing harder might be a little dangerous in my hands. On the other hand, shaft envy is still a thing in my age group.
Thank you for mentioning the boys at TXG. They do amazing work!
I agree they are great, but why are you thanking him for mentioning them?
@@thesetzers8952 I am suspicious that TXG has a financial interest in Autoflex. And their legion of youtube commenters is also suspicious.
I would maybe try another flex and play with it multiple times. My results got better and better with more use.
Doubt it. Everybody wants their expensive shit to work
Are you an autoflex dealer?
Rick! I’ve got this shaft. I’ve had it tested with my pga tour coach friend. We all see a 5mph increase and tighter spray. However we did have to tweak the swing. Forward in the stance, little higher and swing for the fences.
I love it and went from 112-117mph.
Swing weight needs to be D1-D1.5
Tighter spray from your shaft?
@@uwrossl 🤣 🤣 🤣
If I’m doing the math correctly, that would mean a 15 yard increase at an extra 5 MPH
750 pounds and he picks it up with two fingers!! Ricks a beast!
I think, based on TXG test, this shaft need a proper fitting with totally different head driver, does a matter the swing speed, but i think the correct head is crucial.
My friend bought this shaft and yes it really does work my friend got an extra 40/50 yards it's a huge difference went from a 300 yard drive to 350 it's worth it if you play a lot of golf and how important it is to you and your game as usual Rick great review
Ya ok, we all believe you.
@@vroomgc doesn’t bother me if you believe me try it and you’ll see! He is a scratch golfer and it has improved his game definitely not mine.
@@vincestyles1030 Sorry I'm not buying into the gimick.. try some other sucker.
You do realise that even Rory doesn’t hit it 350yds! 🤫
Keep these coming Rick, I want the most forgiving golf clubs in the world at one point 😂
Don’t we all lol we could all be scratch
I recently got measured and picked up Ping G410 irons.
Forgiving, and long.
Hit a set of Ping G400 irons. Far and away the most forgiving and stupid long irons i have ever hit
I'm poor. I use Ping Zing 2 white dots.
I have the ping i210s pretty forgiving and the PW flies 155 160 on a nice swing
A friend bought this shaft and so I got to test it out. It was the SF505. My SS is around 100. Wow, I was very impressed. I dont know about the distance difference or SS difference, as I wasnt on any monitor, so it was hard for me to judge. Distance looked maybe comparable to my current driver, but the difference was the dispersion was noticeably tighter than my current shaft. It indeed was strange being so whippy, but it was so smooth as it kicks through impact. Being so whippy, I thought it would be more wild, but the dispersion was tighter for me. Sure has me thinking to buy one.
Thank you for at least being honest, you have gone right up in my expectations.
As someone that owns one of these. It took some adjustment and changing of tee height/position and loft, but on average I picked up 20-25 yards in total switching. Most notable thing from all the monitor testing was ball speed was way up over my red tie. Swing speed was higher as well.
What did you do different?
@@olliewhite3678 Oh man it's been a minute since I watched this. It could be that I had mine professionally set up to the specs the manufacture suggests. Maybe I hit it more straight, or maybe it's a touch longer or lighter than my previous shaft. Was tested on flightscope X3, I am still using it and enjoy it.
“A hot pink shaft”
Bubba Watson has entered the chat
Good one.
He'd love that for his Pink Driver head
First person I thought of when he pulled it out.
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂👏🏾👏🏾
i love how honest your videos are. All these salesmen and companies act like you just need to buy the new product and you’ll automatically shave 10 strokes of your score.
I think Ricky needs to go see Ian & get properly fitted for “the pink shaft”.
@Christopher Bstead this is the stupidest comment I’ve ever seen. They contribute to the analytical side of golf. So much of reaching peak performance is about maximizing your potential and getting certain shots within spin and angle windows.
There’s a reason pro golfers go to them for fittings. It’s because they do everything as well as possible.
Lets leave the shaft testing to Ian and his team ;)
@Christopher Bstead great comment!! Did you know Jim Thorpe once got a gold medal in the 1912 Olympics with mismatched shoes he found in the trash? This is why I refuse to EVER buy new shoes/shoes made after 1912.
See how dumb you sound?
@Christopher Bstead you are completely uninformed or just ignorant. The launch monitors dial you in...then you need to work on your game. You gotta keep up, or get out of the way.
True.
I had just watched a video by a professional club maker before watching this, Rick. He came to the same conclusion that you did. He said that a person can go down in flex and weight and get the same effect as a shaft costing $800. Great review, Rick
Absolutely. The reason it works is that with the extra flex, you are putting some kinetic energy into the club head on the backswing. If you time it right you can convert that energy into useful clubhead speed gains.
9:55 in the TXG video they said they tried a G410 head with the shaft and it didn't perform. Manufacturer said "aim for swing weight D1 or D0". Maybe Rick's cobra head was the same.
Thanks for the review Rick! I own this shaft (SF505XX - same model Matty used at TXG), and would like to add my early/initial anecdotal thoughts if I may. I'll start with the bottom line first. Driver swingweight can make all the difference. Due to the unique properties of the shaft, the manufacturer recommends a swingweight of D1 - D1.5 for best results, so you may want to factor that in, if not already. I'm also testing different heads (Callaway B21 and Epic Flash Sub Zero at the moment). The shaft is virtually unbreakable, as I've posted swing speeds of 150 mph+, no issue, and the ball flight is as straight as any other shaft I've hit. The shaft also appears to keep spin low, no ballooning, lowers spin if anything. Due to weather, I've only been on the course with it 1 time, but without any practice with it, adjustments to swing tempo, or other adjustments, etc., I've seen about a 20-yard difference, even with mis-hits. I believe by marrying the correct head, loft and swingweight, the initial improvement I saw may be optimized further. The lofts I'm using are set at 8 degrees, but will be experimenting with 7 and 9 degrees as well, just to compare across the range. Swingweight is set at just over D1, currently. Thanks again, and if I have any breakthroughs or updates of interest, I'll share with you and the forum. Have a great New Year, and thanks for the amazing content!
150+ mph?! Are you human? 😳😳😳
@@allthatgolfkorea Entirely human, lol. Long history of baseball and a lifetime of continued training. Dabbled in long drive for a while, but it' a full time job to be competitive at the top, and my day job unfortunately interferes with that, so purely recreational at this point. I enjoy hitting the long ball as always, and super excited about this new shaft technology.
@@doctorstrange2549 nice! Still w the auto flex? Any updates?
“It’s not long and it’s not straight.” Rick Shiels 2020
That's what she said
Hi have just started gaming this shaft. Only one round so far. Last 20 rounds averaged 45% of fairways hit. One round so far 64% 9/14. I had an 11 yard pick up on distance. But felt like the should have gone further. I don’t have access to LM that gives spin. But felt like it was spinning a lot. Guys at factory say needs a swing weight d1-D2.... so need to see what it is.... then adjust if necessary. Low spinning knuckleballs on range had good roll out. Coming back from knee injury. So keen to see once confident any extra gains...... averaging 97-98 mph club head speed
Love watching your videos man keep it up and my son has started watching you as well and he has got back into golf now and it’s brought us back together once again!! Thanks!
Hi Rick.... It was nice to see you genuinely excited about the Auotflex Shaft..... I saw the TXG review and was curious to see how it perfomed in outside conditions..... Thanks for your efforts..... Matt had great results with it and your results were "Tepid" by comparisson? I am more curious if this isn"t better shaft for a guy like me with a 95 mph swing speed .. TXG did an in-depth review on this and I was genuinely impressed with the results, and there is nobody harder to impress than Ian at TXG.... so, I am just perplexed /confused right now ??????? and I think it's the same for you?
Maybe take it indoors and see what numbers you get on the screeen? Cheers, Stuart
Rick thank you for all your videos over the years I really enjoyed it.
Love the video Rick. I think the real-world testing you did with the AutoFlex shaft is pretty much exactly what the average golfer would experience. I've played for 30 years, and have never been higher than a single-digit handicap for at least 20 years. It seems like every time I try the latest golf tech I usually love it. It's new, it feels different, and it keeps golf exciting. However, the ONLY thing that improves my scores is 5-10 hours of range time every single week. Never once have I lowered scores by throwing money at gear. That $1,000 spent on a shaft will be FAR BETTER spent on lessons with a pro. No comparison. Tech like this is fun and interesting, but if you think it will lower your scores you are sadly mistaken.
This is what the avg consumer would experience if they didn't get fit for it and just put it straight in. The Autoflex is a very different animal than a lot of shafts, and it requires some tweaking in order to get anything special out of it. If you are going to pay 1k for a shaft, I'd hope the person also spends the money to get it fit right.
Rick: Dont make fun of me.
Also Rick: Senior shaft. It stiffens.
Lol... maybe the should had painted it viagra blue
@@BiggMo It's a great drug.
“I think we have proven that you can’t just put the Autoflex in your current head and expect it to work out of the box” Ian Fraser. Nice to see you work with those guys and see if they can help you get something more. Maybe not but I have a pound that says that they will.
I don't even play golf. Why am I addicted to these videos? I dig this dude. Nicely produced videos. Very entertaining.
Same here!! I do not play at all 🤣🤣
give it a try MSASA
Interesting video, I purchased the auto flex and initially was somewhat concerned at the performance. However after 6 months use I feel I have achieved an understanding of how to maximize performance from this shaft. I have a good understanding of swing mechanics and working with data, but more importantly have had to reevaluate a few things about my swing.
I don’t have the game I once had and had become attuned to running my game to the ‘numbers’ ie dplane data.
I hit my driver with a little cut and could control the ball quite nicely.
As soon as I took the auto flex out on the course I hit a straight pull, nothing drastic but enough to concern me. So that was concern number 1
Concern number 2, I found it really difficult to work the ball, it just went straight, barring one exception which was giving it a bit more grunt and then I would get a high draw.
Here’s what I did and this is based on comments made about my swing, over a long period of time is that it is very very smooth. Ala Ernie and Fred, I don’t feel it is but that’s the comments that come back to me, and when I’m going after the ball in my head people do often comment about how effortless it looks, but I’m trying to hammer it and certainly doesn’t feel smooth in my head.
So firstly I gave up on trying to work the ball, I actually put my old driver in my bag for holes I felt I needed to work it a bit (and if I’m honest, acting as a security blanket if i couldn’t hit a fairway with the auto flex, which was happening a bit when I first put the auto flex in the bag) The 3 wood has a new job now !
Then I dropped down in my grip a bit, this really allowed me to hit those fairways better and get used to a dart like straight shot.
This wasn’t an overnight thing, trust me there were other things I changed to understand how the shaft was performing but it’s much easier to skip the frustrating bits to keep this relatively simple without diving into the numbers.
Then lastly I took a whole lot of speed off my swing.
And here is what I got, miraculously I got at least another 20 metres, not yards, in distance
I was in total control of my swing.
I actually rediscovered my rhythm, I could literally feel it, probably best described as accelerating into the ball but knowing you have plenty left in the tank.
I needed to make these changes to make the auto flex work and yes I still hit the odd bad shot that goes left by putting to much into it but I’m walking away from the course with a really cool sense of pride in my golf swing.
It’s what brings us back.
Thank you for this detailed comment Noel. I’m interested in purchasing this shaft for my TSR2 and everything I’m reading points to exactly your comments about swinging easier on the backswing and accelerating down in to the ball in control and letting the shaft do the work. More about the proper tempo releasing the shafts potential. I have a 95-100 club head speed so nothing extremely fast but but my miss if I get rushed is a pull left so I could see it taking time to adjust to this shaft. Still considering but getting more comfortable about taking the journey with it to potentially see the gains it could provided which is half the fun!
Me watching fully knowing I will not even consider buying it: 😯
You need to watch Matt from TGX hit with it 🤯🤯
Love this guys honesty. It just goes to show money doesn't buy talent or skill. My clubs are made up of 20 year old Ben sayers irons 4-sw. A Ben sayers 7 ,3wood. I only updated my putter ,driver and a hybrid to cover the fact I don't use 4,5,6 irons really. My club pro recommended a upgrade for my driver due to the head size of my old one. And yes there was a difference there. But between my XR and a Sim I can't tell the difference in performance. During my 1st year at my club I went from 36 to 17 with this set. And also qualified for England golf medal final.
I think unless your a low single figure handicap or a pro none of this equipment will ever help your game. Get the basics right 1st. Then sort out your equipment. Great video Rick. Really proves a point. 👍
If I have learnt anything from watching TXG and from my personal driver fit recently. At 9° aoa and 17° launch with your ball speed are you not losing potential distance? Watching Matt swing and launching it at 12-14° with a flatter ball flight, I would expect to see you hit it further with a lower aoa and launch angle? But obviously that is a delivery factor rather than shaft.
Also, obviously I am not judging your swing as I can safely say that it is at least 1000x better than mine 😂 But just wondering if there is a reason you like those numbers?
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Apparently club fitting is overrated... podtail.com/de/podcast/the-rick-shiels-golf-show/ep54-is-custom-fitting-seriously-overrated-rick-s-/
Rick knows his audience so well. Just starts out the video telling us to "grow up" haha!
Maybe you should have had a club fitter set one of these up for you. In some of the reviews I have seen the testers claim to be able to use an autoflex shaft longer than their usual shaft without sacrificing accuracy.
Did you play it at 46inches and swing weight of D1-D2? AF shafts are designed to played that way.
I actually bought one (blind). It took a few weeks to get used to the feel of the whippy shaft (I believe it is 210 cpm) - but I can say that I may have finally gotten over the hurdle - my last 3 rounds - I was averaging over 80% in FIR (my round yesterday was 13/14 fairways hit - and they were long - for me) - which isn't really that big a deal because my driver has always been a strength for me. But these were good indications:
1) My regular partner normally outdrives me by about 10-15y. With the AF, I now outdrive him by about 20y.
2) I know where I play my second shots in the courses that I play - with AF, I am about 30yards further from my normal second shot 'spot'
3) Trackman numbers: SS increased by 3mph. Total distance increased by 16.7 yards. These are average of 10 shots each with my old shaft and the AF shaft.
I play off a 4.3 index with a SS of (now) 108.7mph. My carry is only around 260 with the AF - but this is because my AOA is near flat. I'm pretty sure a higher AOA will get me more carry.
All in all, I don't regret purchasing the shaft - but I have to say, the longer drives didn't do anything much for my score - I've been shooting the same scores with my old driver distance (putting and short game is really where it's at).
The shaft is not a cure-all for bad drivers. You still need to put a good swing into it for it to perform. So if you struggle with your driver - get the fundamentals right first before you consider buying the shaft.
Rick, you should plug TXG more. Their channel is awesome for the serious golfer and they cover the things you don’t
They also find differences in the things they review!
Why does TXG have so many fluffers? Are these bots? I am suspicious TXG
Valuable test, thanks a lot! I am not surprised about the results you have achieved. A very costly shaft will not make one a Ben Hogan, but I still am convinved that there are shafts better suited to ‘your’ swing than others. I was re-fitted from regular grafite shafts to stiff steel shafts a few years ago on my irons and I have benefitted from that a lot. I suppose that there are no ‘super-shafts’, just much better shafts suited to one’s individual game.
Dont the TXG guys pair this thing up with fairly low spinning heads to get matts monster drives? I would Imagine your speedzone extreme may be too spinny of a head to combine with the auto flex possibly?
Absolutely - a fitting isn't just about the shaft.
Agree I couldn’t find any shaft for my extreme. Speed zone yes. I found the extreme head short and balloony for me. In all shafts... still his ball speed didn’t go up...
Matt is a BEAST!!!
Yup it needs a lighter & lower-spinning head like SIM or Mavrik Sub Zero. The TXG guys got the amazing results by going with a longer shaft (since AutoFlex is so light) and using head weights to keep swingweight reasonable.
I wish Rick would've shown the actual numbers but I suspect his spin & dynamic loft went way up & that killed his distance.
The shaft is supposed to make any driver it can attach to longer and straighter. So your telling me I should pay $750 for this shaft but it’s only longer and straighter when combined with certain overly priced Driver heads?? That makes no sense!! Maybe the PGX guys are paid/bias reviewers for this product and are not giving an honest review, or benefit of doubt they just got lucky with combining a driver head that somehow magically paired perfectly with this shaft.
I actually have one in both my driver and my fairway. I took it with me to the fitting and actually fitted the head to the shaft. I do have it now with a G430 max and it produces between 2500 and 2700 rpm which I think is quite good. The real magic about this shaft though is, that it seems to tighten up the dispersion. The first round I ever played with the pink stick I hit all (as in all) fairways. No joke. It forces me to swing more rythmical and load it properly (that is why I got it for the fairway-wood as well, because it feels completely different to any other shaft). I do see some distance gains, nothing crazy, but something like 5 or maybe ten yards in a good hit. I was never a short hitter, but this certainly turns eyes on me, when I hit it well. I do now have a better reputation off the tee :)
The price depends on if it matters to you. Golf is my only vice and I do not have to save every penny, so it was alright. After all: this is a shaft you keep even, if you change head.
It Would be cool to see you get a full fitting from the TXG boys one day!
I’ve been saying this since they did their quarantine podcast
He would go in so cynical. He doesn’t know squat about equipment. Saying no difference in shaft flex meanwhile his dispersion looked like a splatter painting
@@1fridays Rick did a video about different shafts and saw minimal difference. Then again depends if the shafts were for his swing. Yep would love Ian do a fitting on Rick for shafts!
@@1fridays 😂😂😂😂
Boomer😁
You do have a pretty quick takeaway and transition. High swing speed overall. I’d be curious to see how it does for slower swing speeds or slower tempo swings. Don’t think it would make much difference but would be interesting to see.
XD XD XD, Rick knows his audience so well. "Grow up, I'm going to be saying pink shaft a lot in this video." Kudos Rick.
I really like videos such as this one. There are SO many choices when it comes to picking out the right clubs. Expensive doesn’t always equal better.
Asking UA-cam commenters not to make pink shaft jokes is like asking Tiger not to club twirl, like asking Bryson not to hit it so far or even asking Sergio to stop throwing stuff about.....ain't gonna happen.
I really like how you test all your equipment out on the course. So many reps will have customers just hit on launch monitors and it never seems to carry over to the course. Keep up the great work! Love your stuff!
TXG's review of this shaft was in 46" length, and that seemed to make a difference in swing speed and ball velocity. But, they too found it's efficiency was way down compared to their spec shaft.
My first driver when I got decent at golf was a TiBubble Burner with a M 70 flex which was super whippy. I drove the ball great with it. I learned to load the shaft at the top and swing easy. It was a revelation when I was 14 years old. Made me a better driver of the ball and that titanium face was hot compared to a steel off brand driver of the mid 90s. As my swing speed got faster I moved to a stiff shaft, but I still think there is a place for a whippy shaft if you can learn to load it at the top.
The TXG guys have done some interesting tests with this shaft. Crazy results from them
I trust Ian way more than Rick lol
Smells like an undisclosed sponsored review.
Txg is a fitting company selling shafts.. Go figure
@@jmtgolf2756 For product testing, it’s hard to beat Ian and Matt... between Ian’s Encyclopedia knowledge and robot Matt’s swing, it’s hard to find fault in their results. Rick is far funnier though.
@@Mboogie69 yeah I watch Rick for the laughs but if I really need to know the facts I'll go to txg or even crossfield... don't like his personality much but he's a straight shooter
You most likely won't read this, but I have tried a lot of different shafts, have found I play much better with an old school driver and steel shaft. Why would that be? Weight? I play around a 7 handicap, used to be a 2 a decade ago when I could get out more. Driver is the worst club in my bag, between my putter and 710mb's is where I score and recover from my inconsistent drives! Thanks Rick, always enjoy your vids and enthusiasm for golf!
As was stated previously, you would benefit from a TXG auto flex fitting session....
How much does TXG pay you?
I think that when someone spends that kind of money on something like a shaft, they need to believe that is was worth it. I believe that there is little truth in advertising. Thanks for your solid information Rick.
This compared to what TXG did was like night and day, with TXG's being far superior. Highly recommend that anyone with any interest in this shaft go watch Ian Fraser's approach (in multiple TXG videos) and that review/analysis process. TXG produces such higher quality production in terms of what viewers get and can learn from (and the general appearance of the broadcast), it makes most everything else on UA-cam look very amateurish (appropriately so). TXG also does interactive Q&A sessions regularly (for free) and their following is growing exponentially, as it should for the quality programming they produce. If you haven't checked out TXG, you should, and give subscribing consideration - you won't be disappointed.
Cool go promote their channel somewhere else. These types of comments are off putting and a tad bit disrespectful mate
This isn't a competition Rich.
TXG did a great job...agree!!!
What an endorsement for the HZRDUS Smoke Yellow!! I just put one in my driver, 2 weeks ago, and I love the feel. I hit it straighter and longer than any driver I had before.
Meanwhile my entire set costs 750 pounds
😂😂😂 my set cost even less...
Was thinking the same, rebuilt my entire bag for about 600 this summer. Madness
Mine costs less than £200
I was thinking the exact same thing!
Rightfully so. 750 (around 1000$ USD) is literally INSANE for a ***shaft***!!! I love golf, but overpriced equipment like this literally makes me say outloud, "Fuck you" to whatever company thinks they can get away with such exorbitant prices. I understand making equipment tailored to those who have all the money to spend in the world, but when price gets this out of control, I can't help but be absolutely annoyed by the sheer absurdity of it all.
Well, with Matty on the club he was carrying about 360, rolling out to 390 with a club speed about 132mph, and fairly low smash factor for a driver (1.42 or so)....there was a difference, a substantial difference.
Who wants to see Rick & Pete vs Ian & Matt? Autoflex vs cheaper shafts. Cmon Rick.. make it happen😁
In a long drive competition? I think Ian is probably in the same area code as Rick....and while Pete has added some distance recently, I don't think he's in the Matty range just yet. Out on the course for 18 holes - that would be a good one. I'd still have to put my money on Ian and Matt - but I think it would be a good match.
@@chrisgilligan4968 Definitely an 18 hole match!!! 😁
Rick, which shaft were you using? I have a 505 and swing around 95mph and I’m loving mine. I did have to loft down because it was launching higher, but mine is easily 15 yds longer and I don’t have a simulator, it’s just me and the golf course that I play. I have the mavrik head on mine
Look up the testing TXG has on UA-cam. Matty hits it on a line and long every time.
To be fair you could give Matt the Machine a hickory shaft and he'd find a way to hit it long and straight every time.
You’re using the pro model auto flex with a forgiving drive head model, try a maverick sub zero or something along those lines and you’ll see lower spin more carry, the point of the shaft is to promote artificial lag in the swing which absolutely adds distance like a Cameron Champ
No it dosent.
@@safranic yes it does. Maybe my +4.2 handicap might know a thing or two about the mechanics of a golf swing. Rick already has lag in his swing which is why he saw no difference
@@RMgolf your +4.2 handicap playing the same flat course over and over again means nothing to me.
“Rick already has lag”. Ok, we all do. The shaft isn’t improving his hand speed, and unless you load the shaft within its profile, it’s just not going to work for you.
@@safranic Hahahaha same flat course... I play tournament golf partner. Gotta play good anywhere. +4.2 is a handicap you will never in a million year have the talent to reach. Go play the white tees at 5400 yards and kick in your 88 like you know what you’re talking about. Tough comment kid
@@RMgolf for all the 67’s you’re dropping on muni’s it dosent change the fact that most get little to none with regards to distance, and instead lose accuracy. If you have to alter your entire club, possibly stance and/or swing after dropping almost a rack on a shaft, it’s not a great product. It’s niche, it’s for the hack that dosent have anything better to do with their money so they can go from a 230 carry to 245. But you still have to get your hands moving faster for any serious gains, beyond a fit club.
Yep, just watch TXG’s ‘Return of the Autoflex’ clip...... says it all......
Finally a UA-camr that is honest about a product..thanks
We need a Backwards Hat Rick channel that only posts reviews of gimmick clubs and bad swing drills 😂
I thought the same about the Vizard x stiff on Honma TW 747 driver. The shaft is super whippy and still manages to keep up with the swing and you don't lose it right. Also had 30 yard roll which was a huge struggle for me.
You have to slow your transition speed, and let the shaft load.
You can't be serious with this comment...😅😅😅
@@wannabegolfin24-72 you need to watch TXG and Matt swing this shaft
@@Athon08 Don’t you mean Matty.😉😆
Glad to get an honest opinion on everything you evaluate. I believe you have saved your viewers like me a lot of money and frustration.
Holding back my immature sense of humor this video was nearly impossible.
My inner teenager was giggling the entire time... probably not the best video to watch a work come to think of it
Because of what I've learned watching a clubmaker replicate the performance of the Autoflex with less costly shafts, I'd say that Rick needs one grade stiffer. He's gone from XS to Senior, the clubmaker says drop only two flexes. Also in his testing one of the shafts was a tad stiffer than that, and the tester loved it because it wasn't so whippy and gave similar distance. I'll be trying it and am wavering on dropping to Reg or to Senior flexll because XS is what I'm yanking around me now.
The magic with Autoflex is to play it at 46 and d1-d2 swing weight so unless you do it like that it’s not the right review
I think it's the correct review because i don't see anywhere does it say its for older players and should be used for d1-d2 swing weight. I think it's a great review because i know definitely not to buy one because my swing speeds are similar to rick's.
@@bryantrinh7482 Well, when I hit a Cobra driver the ball spins to the heavens.
@@The_Osprey especially the high spinning game improver one 🤣
Actually if you talk to the company like I have they will tell you do not play it any heavier then a d2
Not that it’s for older plays but it should be played at 45.75 to 46 at d1-d2 to get the most out of the shaft
Great honest review Rick. Glad you tried dropping the loft as that was one my initial thoughts to decrease spin and increase distance - but no avail !! Very interesting - can you get your money back under trade descriptions?? 😄👍
0:59 shit that's a heavy shaft, you must be a strong man to lift it.
Hey Rick! Could you make a video where you talk about how to practice if you cant get out to the course or range, and you don’t have a simulator? (Winter or rain)
Thanks! I live in northern USA and I don’t know what I should do to practice!
Adam Scott gained yardage with it and uses it in his driver for a reason! You need to contact the manufacturer and they will recommend a proper driver weight and shaft for your swing speed! Try it again Rick
The manufacturer recommends D1/D2 swing weight for the shaft to work accordingly. Not sure if this was factored.
Conclusions: you have to be Matt the Machine from TXG to use the AutoFlex
@Rick Shiels Golf fake ass account can’t even crop Ricks logo properly 😂
If I recall Matty always has it at 46 inches. Might be something there... Matty boy is also a freak of nature
@@chadvanbuuren7413 Dude swings at 130 with a 3/4 back swing. So much control too....he's way more in control of his delivery....but we don't get to see him play actual golf holes much - typically just swing robot stuff for the reviews.
@Westsidesnooker 2020 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@chadvanbuuren7413 could watch Matty's swing all day long... So fucking efficient and powerful
Great review Rick... my local golf shop here in Hong Kong has sold over 130 of these shafts in recent weeks. Seems completely ridiculous to spend more than a top of the range fitted driver on just a shaft...
They said... they have seen the biggest difference with people who have a swing speed under 100mph and in particular, those that historically slice the ball... would be good to see a test of it from someone random golfers to see if they see any difference (like you did when testing the blades a while back)
Rick’s head speed made the hot pink shaft go hard
You're trying way too hard. Stop forcing it.
Love your non bias reviews, stay true to yourself rick and youll always have viewer's like me.
No way a shaft can make that much difference.
My ex said it does, that's why im the ex
Back in about 1980 there was a complete set of clubs released called (if I remember correctly) call Eezee swinger. The shafts were rusty brown colour and the advert showed them bending far more that even this example. They were sold as being ideal for older golfers but, not surprisingly, did not prove popular. I wonder if anyone else remembers them.
Better to put that money towards lessons for me than into a shaft that I will still manage to slice with.
Rick just throwing this out there, I have been playing golf or attempting to play golf for years and years... but its the simple stuff I always second guess myself about like: how high to tee my driver, or hybrid? How to get over the mental hurdle of hitting a fairway wood off the fairway and not burning it or digging it into ground? Is there anything to Brysons concept of same length shaft clubs, would it help the average golfer?
Thanks Rick, always great content and help.
NEVER BUYING THAT SHAFT!
Try the standard men's shaft. Maybe the Pro shaft was just too stiff for you Rick. 😂😂😂
Rick which one are you using with your swing speed should be sf505x or xx for a proper comparison 👍🏌🏻♀️
Got to love Rick's reviews. Straight up, no BS! Another over-priced product, that can't do what it claims. I was seriously thinking about this shaft, not anymore!
Good to know. I am getting older. 61. And have tried some senior shafts at some demo days. And they seem really easy to hit.
But after seeing this. I don't think I'll trade.
If you're swinging at 105-110 miles an hour on average, you have tested the wrong shaft.
SF505X is for 115mph and up, average.
You need to test just the SF505. That's more suited to your swing speed.
Rick, if your were properly fitted for the shaft I think it would have suited you much better. TXG had multiple flex options for Matt when they tested and it turned out much better.
I would give $750.00 for twenty yards longer on my tee shots!
Typical shit golfer opinion
Definitely liked that you gave it more time instead of instantly discarding it. One thing we see in lacrosse a lot is that you can indeed generate more power with more flex, but have to completely change up your mechanics in order to tap into that speed, which can be more difficult for more experienced players who are used to a certain mechanic. I'd be super curious to see if you could spend a day at the range and try to get funky to see if there's any extra juice in there!
Send the shaft over to Big Al Etches for a look-see.
I’m late to this video but anyways here’s my 2 cents:
1: You really have to go into the ball with this shaft, do NOT be afraid to hit it as hard as you can, THAT’S how you will see the difference.
2: Don’t use the Pro Shaft unless you have a 120mph swing speed or higher.
3: Lower the loft to its lowest setting.
4: Most importantly, tee the ball up as high as you possibly can
This shaft works, it just takes time
“The pink shaft stiffens as you hit it” Rick shiels 2020
Wonder if you should have gone for the 505 51g shaft with club speed at 109, perhaps you’re not activating the shaft at that speed?
You can always throw it like a javelin when you’re mad since it bends like one 😂