Stronghold: Definitive Edition - Dev Diary (Multiplayer & Workshop)
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
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This week we round off our trio of behind-the-scenes developer diaries by interviewing production experts Paul and Dave! Having discussed both art and design over the past few weeks, it's time to talk Steam multiplayer, Workshop and the other improvements coming to your favourite game modes. What to expect from Workshop support, more details on multiplayer in DE and planned improvements to Free Build mode are all touched on, with even more insight into the development process of this unique game.
Making Stronghold more accessible has always been a key goal of the Definitive Edition and bringing our amazing multiplayer community - as well as the awesome maps they've created over the course of two decades - front and centre within Steam is how we're hoping to accomplish that. Thousands of fan creations can soon exist within Steam Workshop and be easily accessible for future generations of Stronghold players, with an improved set of multiplayer options to support years of continued play.
Add to this a few choice improvements to Free Build - everyone's favourite cozy game mode - and you have plenty to look forward to come release. Speaking of which... It's not long now! There is less than two weeks to go before launch and more video updates coming. So stay tuned for the latest on Stronghold: Definitive Edition.
00:00-01:13 Introduction
01:14-02:00 Reimagining a Classic
2:01-03:40 Old-School Sieging
03:41-04:36 Steam Multiplayer
04:37-06:16 Community Content
06:17-08:04 Freebuild Mode & Outro
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Allow the community to mod the game and share mods via the Workshop!
They confirmed in a previous diary that they wouldn’t have time to do that, it would be a surprisingly complex undertaking compared to the Map Editor uploads. Maybe some day, though.
@@Hyperchickenthat's sad
is there a way to extract game graphics? That would allow simple mods at least.
for the time being we didn't need any mod, just make the map size larger please..4 multiplayers on that small map is pretty lame let alone 8 mp..wish the developers could read this
After this we need Stronghold Crusader remake! Make it possible to create maps (with more tools), mods (for example changing troops/building stats/ressources is needed) and a tool to create computer AI (build castles and behaviour). For sure, options for multiplayer are needed too. This would attract much players to come back to this game.
Agreed. Also, I would like to see a revamp of some of the Crusader AI castles. Some are just garbage. Haha.
And change the arabs to a whole different "civ" with unique buildings, unique weapons, farms arabic voiceovers, arabic music and unique mechanics
@@Littlefinger4E agreed
So you mean Stronghold Crusader 2?@@Littlefinger4E
Same, I love the editor and over they ears a lot of tricks sprung up to make truly unique maps, but I'd love a very robust scripted Editor like AoE2 DE does. Scripts, pathing, everything would be so awesome. Like "go there, get food" or "do that, get attacked from this angle". this would be truely big.
Lovely to see how passionate you guys are about the definitive edition.
We hope you like it!
I hope I like too
It will show on the end product, we will see the passion they put in this!
Finally it’s good to see you guys listening to us fans! The classic games have the real magic just continue to build on that.
For me games like this are so much better being 2D
Nice seeing the OG devs still working in the studio.
I would absolutely love if the wooden stairs and wooden walkways, and "palistone walls" were available for use by the player without jumping through the same old hoops! I've already wishlisted the game and am excited!
It must be in editor (maybe not in game, as to have "special stuff" from editor not available for regular play)
Thank you for coming back to this project
I am amazed to see how hard you guys have worked to make this game new for 2023, Not only the technological level of detail, the compatibility for the older maps that were created by the community and the new animations, the return of voice actors for those characters. Playing the demo i could feel your hard work, and that is only a sneak peak of everything that's to come. I have only one thing to say: You guys are awesome! thank you for making this game ❤
That's amazing! I can't wait to get the full version! Just one request: could you please soften the color grading transitions between the different ground height levels? If you make a head to head comparison between HD and DE, you can notice that these transitions look smooth and natural in the original game. Everything just blends in harmoniously, unlike in DE, where the transitions look sharp and unpolished. It would be amazing to see some improvements there ❤️
More terrain improvements are coming - Let us know what you think at launch :)
Music to my ears ❤️ Thank you!!
The new options for Freebuild are looking absolutely fabulous, and address my biggest gripes about the mode from the original games. Really looking forward to this!
I cant wait, I appreciate you guys doing this!
04:14 There will be an oppurtunity to creat alliances in Multiplayer ?😱😍 How does it look like? Is it possible to creat and break an alliances anytime? That would be great !
nice!!! we ready!
04:09 the names of players and the chat: D
I had no idea there was a demo a few months ago so I redownloaded Stronghold HD and have been playing that while I wait for the DE! you guys are putting a lot of time and thought into it so thank you! cant wait to get my hands on the only RTT RTS game I love!
You guys are doing amazing job...keep it up...
Thats what i wanted for Free build! Awesome job!
This sound all very good. Can't fait to see the finished product :D
I have some hope that there will be an option to fight against computer opponents in game like there was for Stronghold Crusader, but I'll also understand if that would take quite a bit of time to do. Everything else is looking fantastic thought!
Can't improve perfection, but I'm happy you guys managed to make something even better nonetheless!
Imagine if maps were much bigger, add fog of war
Just workshop support for mods in general .. (
I love stronghols series luv u guys you make my childhood very goood missing old days 😢😢
6:06 - "We are hoping to see all of those thousands of maps that were on Heavengames or other locations just to go straight onto the workshop" What the... ?! Was that really just an open call by Firefly for people to basically steal content created by others on a massive scale?! A call for DE players to simply go onto Heavengames or other fansites, take any existing maps that were created by others, and copy-paste them into steam workshop without the consent of the creators?!
Those maps, scenarios and even entire custom campaigns were created by passionate and skilled mapmakers who spent tons of hours into creating works of art. Often, they also included additional information, hints, intricate backstories, images, historical background and research, fanciful presentation, instructions, multiple variants or other cool stuff with their maps, spent time on researching to get the details of historical locations or events right, to playtest, to create beautiful and detailed maps.
And now all that shall be plagiarised by whomever, and put onto the workshop, most likely also without any of the additional parts of those great pieces of content, with no support for custom campaigns, etc...? Is that really how Firefly wants to treat their content creators?
Firefly, if you actually care about community content creators at all - people, who kept your game alive for two decades by providing endless amounts of quality content for people to enjoy for free - if you care about the core of your community at all... then please reconsider and clarify your statement! Do not give your most engaged and altruistic fans a big slap in the face by inviting everyone to steal all their work! That's just absolutely... mind-blowing in a negative way.
Not sure what's wrong with you but something is.
@@31redorange08 you think standing against plagiarism and for creator rights is wrong? Well, I guess Steam guidelines disagree with you as much as I do.
@@Heroesflorian Tell me more.
Oh come on Firefly.. Don't be like Valve, you know we want Stronghold Crusader remastered, it would be cool to be able to switch graphics in it, from dusty to EU mod, from day to night.. you would earn billions :)
It will obviously come if they are satisfied with the performance of this game.
Oh come man.. Don’t be like every other gamer who can’t appreciate a good release and jumps to conclusions about the intentions of the developer based on absolutely nothing.
I’m sure Crusader Definitive Edition is in the pipeline if this one is successful enough. One thing at a time.
@@Hyperchicken nah it's just the fact that Crusader has bigger player base not like I do not appreciate that they actually went back and redone the original one. But I also checked the files, it's made with unity, so no more swapping gm and gfx files from original to crusader :/
@@Hyperchickenno the devs literally said it themselves. If this performs well they will remaster the crusader.
@@Kameron-The-Crafter Exactly. I can’t understand “not appreciating” this or being upset about it lol. OP is acting like since they’re making this game, it is impossible to make Crusader as well. Not how it works champ, and a lot of people are excited about SH DE even if you’re not.
it's amazing to see you continue to contribute/support to old Stronghold games. Yet, I can't help but think how ripe the time is for a groundbreaking RTS game set in the modern world. It's easy for us fans to request such a game, but if any studio can revolutionize the genre like you did in the early 2000s, it's Firefly. Looking forward to what you come up with next! 🙂 (btw, Str Crusader remake would be awsome lol)
It’s hard for me to focus so I will probably play a few hours total but I don’t think there was a different game for which I was more glad to pay for and support the studio❤
I see auto trading option which is fantastic, but it does not look like you can change starting player position, will that be changed as well?
Also are more than 2 teams possibly now? Original only allowed 2 teams unlike other games which allowed 2 v 2 v 2 v 2 scenarios. Also it would be nice to get Random Events in MP as well, for casual games at least.
Those Freebuild options are a major selling point for me - I absolutely loved freebuild, but it did lack any challenge, so it's great to see options for attackers and events/disasters etc... Great work gents! Stronghold is easily one of my top 10 video games of all time, and perhaps one of the most hilariously written and voice acted games of all time too!
Arguably the most enjoyable part of this game is developing the castle and my city and watching what people are doing and the view. I can’t wait 😋Their music is great too. All in all, very relaxing. I hope you make such a definitive version for Crusader as well. My biggest expectation from the new game is that everything will be on a much larger scale. And it looks great from up close or from afar.
Classic never old
Nice! I like the auto-trade but it is also a very good idea to make it optional in multiplayer.
I also love the ability to make alliances in the game. Would be interesting if you could not only make them once, but make and break them during the game, depending on how the battle evolves. With the possibility of up to 8 players, that could give some very interesting games.
Do you plan on including different campaign maps based on which language version is being used again?
And if you do, would there be an option to revert back to the map of England?
Can't wait to play skirmish
Sadly Stronghold: DE will not have a skirmish mode, something that was missing in the original game (2001) and the HD release (2012) - Check out our recent Q&A for a fully explanation: ua-cam.com/video/oqV6DYBgFzI/v-deo.html
I´ve never been this exicted in years!! I love the fact that the "old" staff is still there. Later on I would love to see a Crusader DE as well! Wish you a good luck Firefly. Guys buy the game so we can keep supporting them, they deserve it!
Will there be any tools for modders to add new units, buildings, reskins etc.?
No
I thought just maybe my award winning castle design would be shown in this video.😂 Conway Castle on Stronghold Heaven ...by Andy Baz ❤
hello , please make this game bigger .
Where can i find the scenario editor ?
Excited about this. Watched every post and youtube video since they released the news about DE. When it comes to Firefly Studios, any news is good news to me
Love this game ❤
❤❤❤ I want this game
Im impressed with that hyrule map. I can see exactly what is meant to be what
Jamie made this one for the video!
I have only two questions. Will it be possible to automatically buy goods through the stockpile. And if I am creating a map in a way that my troops invade and kill the enemy lord or all troops and then take over the castle? You have few missions like that but no opportunity for users to make maps like that as far as I know.
Guys, upgraded FreeBuild is the 10/10 choice! I love you bois!
Very much looking forward to this release, I'll certainly buy it and play a LOT, a masterpiece like this has to be a success, I'd love you to do the same with Crusader, which is my favourite of the franchise. Thanks FireFly!
I wish they added atleast a few new units as well as some wooden tower to this game to allow some more fun playing styles. Units Id say to add would be ranger and monk warrior the monk swordsman from SH2. That way if they rework Crusader the Abbot would have some more viability. As well as ranger replacing arabian archers in the wolfs castle and hed use the rangers on defense. As well as a few other AI Allies or opponents.
Thanks for the suggestions!
I hope the maps are really big, like really big. I mostly played this game as a kid to design castles in builder mode and then try to attack them myself haha
Not bigger than 20 years ago^^
I'm hopeful for the definitive edition of Stronghold, I can even say that I'm waiting for a release of the edition of Stronghold Crusader. Stronghold started me in the RTS segment (in 2006) and I never stopped playing, I'm happy that now I can count on a fully updated version and an achievement system. I personally would like to know from the studio what the multiplayer will be like? Will it have a ranked system?
Is it possible to increase the maximin map size i wonder
Super, but needs skirmish mode!
why in the map editor I can not place iron on the ground? I can place everything ells but not the iron :-(
is there no coop for campaign? :(
Are there any plans to release this on GOG at some point?
My guess would be no, since they exclusively rely on Steam integrations for several features.
@@Heroesflorian Yeah, I'd kind of reached that conclusion, myself. I had some hope that -- like Homeworld Remastered -- it would be released to GOG after it debuted on the other platforms, but it seems like they'd have to strip functionality out of it to make that happen. Which is fine by me -- I don't do multi-player anyways, but it's disappointing that GOG is being ignored, even tho' the previous games are all for sale there.
please add more building options... aesthetics options..
Great job guys to make the tech level !
Got 38 new high detailed MP Maps for everyone. Make stronghold great again XD
no just no
I would love something new for Stronghold Kingdoms, it's really good game but some updates would be really amazing
I'm not sure I'm understanding you accurately.
For each successful defense against an invasion in the Free Build mode, Player will be awarded money? So, this mode will be something like Tower Defense? Or is this all just me rambling?😆
Charge it more !!! But let the community to mod the game !! That is its what you guys must focus
Can you give us the ability to recruit black monks? Perhaps from a church or a cathedral like in the crusader?
Can't wait to play free build. Also seems like auto trading got confirmed
I want to try stronghold - vikings..Maybe CEO will hear my concept
I am playing with Stronghold: Definitive Edition
This is your chance to make new buildings! I want to see new buildings! Additional towers, hoardings, stuff from stronghold 2 into this 2d game. Why not.
IM WAITING TO BUY AND PLAY THIS MASTERPIECE❤
When SH Crusader gets a remaster, would love to see the awesome weasel turd song making a return.
Great, so basically a lot of features will be only available to Steam users. What if I don't want to buy the game on Steam? No multiplayer or easy access to fan-made maps for GoG users?
Why wouldn't you?
@@xpodx Because I don't have a Steam account and have all my games on GoG. I am not willing to create an account just for one game that is a remaster of a game that I already own.
@kamilszadkowski8864 why don't you have a steam account? That's a basic pc gamer need
@kamilszadkowski8864 I'm just really blown away not everyone has steam.
@@xpodx maybe you should occasionally risk a look across the figurative fence and widen your horizon...
Super 👍🏻 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Next -> Stronghold Crusader
Does the multiplayer have players vs bots? :D
No. There are no bots / AI characters in the SH1:DE, not for singleplayer skirmish and not for multiplayer either.
After this bring us a new game same style as stronghold and crusader, lots more campaign and story cut scenes. Same music, funny characters. Medieval always.
NOTCH. ARROWS.
+1 for the algorithm
Чекал випуск, всім селом
steam workshop means stand alone campagnes!
No... sadly, it only supports single maps, but no campaigns.
2:28 AA yes on phone with friend calling on wrting on paier nuber ad nd dots ;] ;] coping IP that game give from i think extrat from ruuter on phone cable ;]
European mercs for MP gogogoo
We need mac version pls
a lot of things left out with a little imagination for example:bandits special look no bunch of macemans called bandits could be the cheapest soldiers the bandits ...seasons- snowfall- rain...holidays...//// (nagyon sok kihagyott dolog kis fantázia segitségével például:banditák külön kinézet nem buzugányosok banditáknak nevezve lehetnének a legolcsóbb katonák a banditák ...évszakok- havazás-eső...ünnepek...
Shc 2002 the best
skirmish against ai?
is nice but The Workshop is for MODS not Maps is a nice Addon to the Workshop !!! but it is For MODS the Question is How Moddebill is the new Stronghold !! can i make my own model of a Tower !! or Walls ? Or can i make a textur pack !!!! and upload this things on the Workshop !!!!! its not FOR MAPS ONLY!!!!!
No, workshop support is only implemented for single maps (not even campaigns), but nothing else. And ingame textures seem to be very difficult if not impossible to exchange, i.e. less moddable than the original.
No Skirmish No buy. i stay with the old one :/
the old orignal stronghold 1 has never Skirmish😅
@@SparkleDerPolarfuchs yeah but why u think ppl are playing crusaider more?
@@zamero because you can here choose enemy or teaming up here or 1vs1 :D
Finnaly multiplayer not on game ranger, it's was too hard to understand and it was bad
yet you still can't add ai into multiplayer games... -.-
Skirmish AI was never planned for SH:DE. You can find out more here:
bit.ly/3ubC9VG
I BET YOU STILL HAVENT FIXED THE GAME TIME STARTING BEFORE PLACING KEEP AND GRANARY
If only that was the only new issue...
When Stronghold 4 release?😁
They’re working on “Stronghold Unreal” in addition to this. A new Stronghold game in the Unreal engine
@@Hyperchickenthat's nice unreal engine