Have i ever owned a Taylormade Driver? Yes. A couple. Most recently I won an R1-black in a golf tournament. Loved that driver and played it until a little over a year ago. It was time to replace it and I looked hard at the new Stealth. I have loved my Taylormade Drivers and fairway woods over the years. But. . . i keep my clubs for a while and don't trust the carbon faces to last over time - yet. So i stayed titanium with a TSR2. Will the TM carbon face technology last? We will find out. I wasn't willing to gamble $600.
I fixed the 2022 problem by replacing the 2 gram weight in the back of the driver head with a 14 gram weight. It is now very stable and forgiving on mishits. Cost $10
So for average joes the taylormade is the go to BUT for actual players the tsr3 is the winner literally on every other reviewed channel outperforming the stealth in a massive way. I’m sitting at a +1.2 hc rn and got fitted into the titleist bc my carry numbers were on average 7.8 yards further and my ball speed was way more consistent usually never dipping below 173 on “course” type swings. Usually a ping guy but the Taylormades have underperformed for me the past 4 years now starting with sim. I do love how they sit tho!
I actually gained about 15 yards with stealth 2 plus vs the stealth plus. I used the same shaft in both and stealth 2 spins less and runs a ton. Carry distance is about 290-95 and rolls to 310-315 consistently. Great video as always!
Last year, the Stealths spun 1/3 less than the Rogue ST LS model. For a 110 -115, that meant 20-30 yards on every shot. Matching a folder and their spin rate is that grail right now. It's a dang chest code for fast swingers. It helps them more that it helps the rest of us yahoos.
I hit this at a fitting. As shown here the only real weakness is forgiveness but overall a fantastic driver. For high swing-speed players this will significantly bring down spin. The sound off the face isn't my favorite (I prefer TMs older faces) but it's fine.
Just for the stealth 2 plus and I was so surprised at how well I hit it. I got it at a steal and was going to resell it by my curiosity got the best of me and I took it to the range and boy am I glad I did!
I’m an absolute beginner with a mid swing speed and wanted to purchase my first driver today, went to the shops and given a try of beginner drivers, and they included the Callaway Rogue ST Max. The Stealth 2+ was what I settled on and ordered that. It’s going to a be a long 3 weeks until it arrives.
I'll keep my LTDx LS and stick to titanium. Seen too many reports of faces falling out and my speed of 120 would def make that happen at some point in the future with my luck outside the warranty window....
@@Andy-oz7bj Pros have their driver faces tested before every tourney/round. If there is any change in specs they replace them. My friend got 3 "reject" Kucher driver heads that were slightly below the max CT(my buddy knows the Bridgestone rep). They were from the tour van during the Memorial Tournament.
Owned a Stealth Plus, and now own a 2016 M2. The M2 is only a few MPH ball speed less, and sounds way better, and is a bit more forgiving. Insane for a driver that's 7-8 years old.
Rick Shiels Golf has tested all 3 Stealth models for him the Standard model and the Plus model are powerful drivers but moderately forgiving, although he noted a small improvement over the previous model what do you think?
I just tested the stealth 2 against cobra Aerojet.. mizuno, tour edge,, f9 cobra, M4, ping,, and it blew them away by a long shot.. so i had to buy one..
I just ordered the stealth 2 plus cause my sim 2 I had a horrible slice I bought it for the adjustment setting figured I would have it in the draw setting but than I saw their HD was made for my concerns lol. Any ideas on if I should switch or stay with the plus?
Hit the stealth 2 plus - 240m max Hit my 2015 cobra fly z s 295max Going to keep trying to se if I can improve with the stealth but so far pretty average not an upgrade so far from my last driver 8 years ago lol
I have an HD maybe 5 months old and popped the carbon fiber crown piece off. My club head speed is 101 max. Apparently, I'm not the first person that's happened to. I have heard the carbon face compresses and increases the air pressure inside and being the carbon crown piece is glued on it can pop off? Could be true I guess. I cleaned off all the old glue and put it back together with 3M composite epoxy, so we'll see what happens. After a few hits, it seems solid. For me, this driver is a bust. Distance and control aren't any different than my Epic Flash.
Anyone heard of the stealh 2 faces delaminating like the original stealth was? I dont know a single original stealth owner that didn't have some kind of warranty issue
I had a driver fitting right before the 2023 best driver test came out and it was the same result for me. A 9° Stealth 2+ cranked down 2° with an Aldila Ascent shaft was the best performing of the 2023 drivers for me. The only problem was that my last year's Cobra LTDx LS was still just a little better. No driver for me this year! 😂
@@edanzore The Aldila Ascent shaft is a miracle for that. It's designed to be a high launch low spin shaft that actually works for me. Even in an extra stiff, it doesn't feel like a board. If you need to knock spin down but still need to have a high launch, I can totally recommend it!
I think driver technology has hit a point of max distance with no control. Rory cut the shaft down on his stealth to try and gain more control. PGA pros are good enough to bomb it anywhere and recover close enough, not me or the average golfer.
There's plenty of complaints about the face breaking off. I generally like these drivers but I haven't seen anything worthy of the bloodbath price compared to a 2 year old driver
Not sure a driver that has the head popping out on so many batches for the first gen AND the second gen should be in the list.. That’s something i never see anyone considered, so many issue with the Stealth, its like a car, it could be the best ever car made, if it only work for 30k miles that’s not worth it
@@jkca1473 Have you ever experienced it ? I have a friend who has this issue after 3 month of use, brought it back to the pro shop ( who are pretty much friends), they replaced it for him, however the pro shop has so hard time to deal with Taylor made after sales that they gave up on that one. It was the first model of Steatlh. And i dont think saying it is covered by a warranty is a good thing, personally i dont care that it is covered,i just dont want to have that issue with a brand new driver. Also many ppl buying it on resell, try to get a warranty from a second hand product, impossible….
@@rdalmasso7326 Not sure many people have the clubhead speed to get the face to pop off. I have experienced it but it was my son and probably happened because he wasn't missing the sweet spot with his 179 mpg ball speed. I get a replacement within a week after I took it to Golf Galaxy and they contacted Taylormade. I'm not saying it's a good thing but I believe it's more to guys with high swing speed not hitting it square. The Pros play it and get in the 180s but they are also hitting it must more consistent in the guts. In other words, I don't think one should worry about the face if you hitting it good. You will however love the results of a solid strike with it.
I can guarantee that reports are exaggerated. I work in the biz and have access to other guys across the country. If the stealths had as many problems as people mistakenly think, there would be full recalls. The BBB would be all over that.
@@Andy-oz7bj ok I get it both. I got influenced I guess from what I have seen in reality and few other videos but yep logically the recall would be obvious
@@darrelle.thompson540 I for and sell them and no problems for these 2 years. Also my colleagues in other cities and states report that they haven't seen any more problems than any other clubs. In fact a kid just brought one in damaged, but it was the crown, not the face. He had idiot marks at the top of the face and crown. People posting things on the Internet and making memes doesn't mean that it's reality. People just had doubts about the carbon fiber faces and can't believe they don't break. I have a friend that works in a airplane factory, and the planes have laminated carbon fiber everywhere. It's stronger than steel. Misinformation is rampant on the Internet.
Why would you put the 3 diamond against the stealth plus? Lol must of got some Taylor made money for this. Paradym standard is much better than stealth.
I'll give some feedback I'm sure you'll ignore. I like your website and info and all you do but even you know everyone wants the data so why say hey let's screenshot this. I was watching this on my 4k tv guess what UA-cam does when you pause? It makes the screen go very dark almost illegible and so I can't see the data not to mention I get you talking and talking and talking but the crucial data's flying by in seconds. Pause it longer don't be a ____
What a shill. Why compare price range when you only put custom orders for one company? 600-800 for the titleist. How much is a mystealth with an aftermarket shaft? Over a grand?
Have you ever owned a TaylorMade driver? Let me KNOW! 🗯
Yes a TaylorMade rbz
What drive do you guys put in your own bags?
Still love my stealth plus from last year.
Have i ever owned a Taylormade Driver? Yes. A couple. Most recently I won an R1-black in a golf tournament. Loved that driver and played it until a little over a year ago. It was time to replace it and I looked hard at the new Stealth. I have loved my Taylormade Drivers and fairway woods over the years. But. . . i keep my clubs for a while and don't trust the carbon faces to last over time - yet. So i stayed titanium with a TSR2. Will the TM carbon face technology last? We will find out. I wasn't willing to gamble $600.
I game an M2 currently
I fixed the 2022 problem by replacing the 2 gram weight in the back of the driver head with a 14 gram weight. It is now very stable and forgiving on mishits. Cost $10
So for average joes the taylormade is the go to BUT for actual players the tsr3 is the winner literally on every other reviewed channel outperforming the stealth in a massive way. I’m sitting at a +1.2 hc rn and got fitted into the titleist bc my carry numbers were on average 7.8 yards further and my ball speed was way more consistent usually never dipping below 173 on “course” type swings. Usually a ping guy but the Taylormades have underperformed for me the past 4 years now starting with sim. I do love how they sit tho!
I was going to buy the TSR3 but will now test the Stealth 2+ because I want to reduce the spin rate. Thanks MGS, perfect timing!
I actually gained about 15 yards with stealth 2 plus vs the stealth plus. I used the same shaft in both and stealth 2 spins less and runs a ton. Carry distance is about 290-95 and rolls to 310-315 consistently. Great video as always!
Last year, the Stealths spun 1/3 less than the Rogue ST LS model. For a 110 -115, that meant 20-30 yards on every shot. Matching a folder and their spin rate is that grail right now. It's a dang chest code for fast swingers. It helps them more that it helps the rest of us yahoos.
what shaft are you playing bro?
You guys just get better and better each year. Thank you for all that you do.
Just bought my second NEW old stock EPIC MaxLS 9* with Hzd Smoke shaft. $235 Golf Galaxy. Can't beat a good thing that works so well!
I have the TaylorMade stealth 2
It's totally a different animal
I agree 💯 game changer 😄
I hit this at a fitting. As shown here the only real weakness is forgiveness but overall a fantastic driver. For high swing-speed players this will significantly bring down spin. The sound off the face isn't my favorite (I prefer TMs older faces) but it's fine.
Just for the stealth 2 plus and I was so surprised at how well I hit it. I got it at a steal and was going to resell it by my curiosity got the best of me and I took it to the range and boy am I glad I did!
I’m an absolute beginner with a mid swing speed and wanted to purchase my first driver today, went to the shops and given a try of beginner drivers, and they included the Callaway Rogue ST Max. The Stealth 2+ was what I settled on and ordered that. It’s going to a be a long 3 weeks until it arrives.
I'll keep my LTDx LS and stick to titanium. Seen too many reports of faces falling out and my speed of 120 would def make that happen at some point in the future with my luck outside the warranty window....
Multiple faces delaminated already. Sold it and got the G430. Much better
Pro's swing that hard and harder and haven't had issues.
@@Andy-oz7bj Pros have their driver faces tested before every tourney/round. If there is any change in specs they replace them. My friend got 3 "reject" Kucher driver heads that were slightly below the max CT(my buddy knows the Bridgestone rep). They were from the tour van during the Memorial Tournament.
I would be interested to see the defect rate and return rate. Can you find that for us???
Great data and great presentation. You earned a sub.
Owned a Stealth Plus, and now own a 2016 M2. The M2 is only a few MPH ball speed less, and sounds way better, and is a bit more forgiving. Insane for a driver that's 7-8 years old.
Just got rid of my M2 fir a stealth2,doesn't hit farther but miss hits are way better I find,to each their own I guess,loving my stealth2
Rick Shiels Golf has tested all 3 Stealth models for him the Standard model and the Plus model are powerful drivers but moderately forgiving, although he noted a small improvement over the previous model what do you think?
I just tested the stealth 2 against cobra Aerojet.. mizuno, tour edge,, f9 cobra, M4, ping,, and it blew them away by a long shot.. so i had to buy one..
I just ordered the stealth 2 plus cause my sim 2 I had a horrible slice I bought it for the adjustment setting figured I would have it in the draw setting but than I saw their HD was made for my concerns lol. Any ideas on if I should switch or stay with the plus?
Hit the stealth 2 plus - 240m max
Hit my 2015 cobra fly z s 295max
Going to keep trying to se if I can improve with the stealth but so far pretty average not an upgrade so far from my last driver 8 years ago lol
Taylormade has been using Inverted Cone Technology in their drivers since the r500 series over 20 years ago.
Just read where the faces of the Stealth are delaminating. Interesting to see how TM responds.
Awesome video, great work 👏
Thank you! 👍
I have an HD maybe 5 months old and popped the carbon fiber crown piece off. My club head speed is 101 max. Apparently, I'm not the first person that's happened to. I have heard the carbon face compresses and increases the air pressure inside and being the carbon crown piece is glued on it can pop off? Could be true I guess. I cleaned off all the old glue and put it back together with 3M composite epoxy, so we'll see what happens. After a few hits, it seems solid. For me, this driver is a bust. Distance and control aren't any different than my Epic Flash.
Anyone heard of the stealh 2 faces delaminating like the original stealth was? I dont know a single original stealth owner that didn't have some kind of warranty issue
I had a driver fitting right before the 2023 best driver test came out and it was the same result for me. A 9° Stealth 2+ cranked down 2° with an Aldila Ascent shaft was the best performing of the 2023 drivers for me. The only problem was that my last year's Cobra LTDx LS was still just a little better. No driver for me this year! 😂
7 degree low spin driver?🤔
@@edanzore The Aldila Ascent shaft is a miracle for that. It's designed to be a high launch low spin shaft that actually works for me. Even in an extra stiff, it doesn't feel like a board. If you need to knock spin down but still need to have a high launch, I can totally recommend it!
@@edanzoreI was launching it about 12°, which is where that fitter liked it.
I think driver technology has hit a point of max distance with no control. Rory cut the shaft down on his stealth to try and gain more control. PGA pros are good enough to bomb it anywhere and recover close enough, not me or the average golfer.
How's the durability? I heard the face pops out pretty easy.
I hit one and the top of the head broke off I will stick to Callaway
M2 2016 with Tour AD BB6
There's plenty of complaints about the face breaking off. I generally like these drivers but I haven't seen anything worthy of the bloodbath price compared to a 2 year old driver
Not sure a driver that has the head popping out on so many batches for the first gen AND the second gen should be in the list.. That’s something i never see anyone considered, so many issue with the Stealth, its like a car, it could be the best ever car made, if it only work for 30k miles that’s not worth it
I wouldn’t really consider it an issue when they fully cover it under warranty
@@jkca1473 Have you ever experienced it ? I have a friend who has this issue after 3 month of use, brought it back to the pro shop ( who are pretty much friends), they replaced it for him, however the pro shop has so hard time to deal with Taylor made after sales that they gave up on that one. It was the first model of Steatlh. And i dont think saying it is covered by a warranty is a good thing, personally i dont care that it is covered,i just dont want to have that issue with a brand new driver. Also many ppl buying it on resell, try to get a warranty from a second hand product, impossible….
@@rdalmasso7326 Not sure many people have the clubhead speed to get the face to pop off. I have experienced it but it was my son and probably happened because he wasn't missing the sweet spot with his 179 mpg ball speed. I get a replacement within a week after I took it to Golf Galaxy and they contacted Taylormade. I'm not saying it's a good thing but I believe it's more to guys with high swing speed not hitting it square. The Pros play it and get in the 180s but they are also hitting it must more consistent in the guts.
In other words, I don't think one should worry about the face if you hitting it good. You will however love the results of a solid strike with it.
I can guarantee that reports are exaggerated. I work in the biz and have access to other guys across the country. If the stealths had as many problems as people mistakenly think, there would be full recalls. The BBB would be all over that.
@@Andy-oz7bj ok I get it both. I got influenced I guess from what I have seen in reality and few other videos but yep logically the recall would be obvious
What ranks it no1
What about all the faces flying off tho.
Whatttt I haven’t heard about that that’s wild
Not super often and Taylormade will replace and even upgrade your club if it happened on the original stealth
@Devon Seymour haven't heard about it? It's happened so much they made tshirts and memes for it
@@darrelle.thompson540 I for and sell them and no problems for these 2 years. Also my colleagues in other cities and states report that they haven't seen any more problems than any other clubs. In fact a kid just brought one in damaged, but it was the crown, not the face. He had idiot marks at the top of the face and crown. People posting things on the Internet and making memes doesn't mean that it's reality. People just had doubts about the carbon fiber faces and can't believe they don't break. I have a friend that works in a airplane factory, and the planes have laminated carbon fiber everywhere. It's stronger than steel. Misinformation is rampant on the Internet.
Why would you put the 3 diamond against the stealth plus? Lol must of got some Taylor made money for this. Paradym standard is much better than stealth.
Bombs
No thanks. Being driverless after sending it back for a new face is something I'd rather avoid.
Rory's driving at The Masters and PGA basically gives you the headline when it comes to the TM Stealth 2....long but wrong.
I’ll stick to my G410
Cool and be 30 yards behind.
I'll give some feedback I'm sure you'll ignore. I like your website and info and all you do but even you know everyone wants the data so why say hey let's screenshot this. I was watching this on my 4k tv guess what UA-cam does when you pause? It makes the screen go very dark almost illegible and so I can't see the data not to mention I get you talking and talking and talking but the crucial data's flying by in seconds. Pause it longer don't be a ____
TSr 2 and 3 are superior drivers
What a shill. Why compare price range when you only put custom orders for one company? 600-800 for the titleist. How much is a mystealth with an aftermarket shaft? Over a grand?
Nope, you lost me after 3 minutes, nothing of interest to me at all up to that point so I stopped watching. You can do a lot better!!