The reason why some people said it can only carry 10 rounds of HE-VT is because they forgot to resupply it to the max amount, so they need to open the modification screen and resupply it. Probably a bug but there's that.
There’s one thing which I noticed and why I personally also enjoy watching your videos so much. Of course the great commentary, voice and skill aside. What sets you off from a fair few other UA-camrs, especially the big ones, is that you “just play the game”. You bring a lineup into the match, don’t have everything maxed out and every crew at lvl150, you capture points and generally play like a teammate I’d love to have on my team, it feels like you play for the victory, not the most kills or the most amazing UA-cam intro kill (Those things just come naturally)
You mind explaining overpressure a bit? I used to use heat on squishies and it would hull break most of the time. Nowadays I'm aware that there is overpressure but I don't know how it works very well.
@@Oysterkeeper HE component go BOOM... light stuff and humans go POP🤔😂 ...ok, I genuinely don't know how to describe it outside of the explosive sending a pressure wave out and it's destructive up until a point. I guess where hullbreak was about the structure, overpressure is about the crew damage? I'm sure someone has a far better explanation😂 Open topped tanks like even an M10 can be overpressure from "normal" caliber HE rounds, which is kinda BS 😅
@@liamboyle9199 I appreciate the response but I more meant how it works in war thunder. Like with hullbreak, I could shoot the mounted 50 cal on top of an m18 with a heat shell and somehow it got hull broken. With HE and overpressure, I assume I actually need to aim? What for? Does it work often? Etc. Etc.
@@Oysterkeeper overpressure essentially means if you have an HE round, trap shot can become viable. originally, if you shoot a medium tank at the copula, it just explode there and nothing else, but with overpressure, when the round hit the copula and explode, the blast energy from the HE explosion will now travelling through that penetration, dealing more damage to the whole crew inside even if its fragmentations don't hit any of them. that means HE now can not only kill light vehicles, but can also kill heavy tanks if you know where to aim for, like how an HE round kill a Tiger at the front in one shot by shooting at the commander port.
The new PUMA reminds me of when the IS-6 where added. Absolute disaster gameplay at that tier. Played a few hours yesterday. My whole team was destroyed by those things, game after game after game.
@@Entropy-kj8iq I didnt say I was good, and it is skill because our of the 25 games played yesterday there were 4ish stomps per team. Fairly noal result
Mr.sergeant edwin You are shut at the game, and I heavily recommend you play the begleitpanzer for yourself, it is not the PUMA which eventually needs to move upto 9.0. And also the BMP-2M is at 8.7 don't forget that, which is better than the begleitpanzer. It has better missiles Rapid fire 4 atgms of 1200mm pen Gen 2 thermals while the begleit has gen1 Can fire on the move, while the begleit has to stop to fire The begleit has proximity fuse, however the bmp-2m has proximity fuse missile for aircraft and helicopters The bmp2m has smoke grenades while the begleit doesn't. Stop being biased and play another tech tree that isn't America. Freeaboo.
Actually there's a way to get to that area that they "blocked" on jungle for both sides, on Justin's side you have to go to a little spot that if you climb can get you to the other side of the tank traps. Edit: I can't exactly tell where it is but you should find it on the left side of the road that's blocked by tank traps, there is a little hill and if you climb it you're on the other side, I've done it with and Ariete P without engine modifications so at all mbts should be able to use that path, don't know about ww2 vehicles though. Hope that was helpful
One thing that's bit me a few times: the proxy rounds have a 500 meter arming distance, meaning if you shoot at a chopper RIGHT on top of you it has to be a direct hit.
Bud I know what you mean. I was shooting 10.0 and trying to use the XM975 and I live up in Inspirada and the Network just doesn’t want to work out her either. I must have looked strange sending out Roland’s and having them bob and weave all over the sky 🤣👍🏻
It's annoying in a way because it's going to go up in BR. 9.0/9.3 is already jam packed for Germany. Currently it's a great A10 killer because no giveaway with radar warning.
I had to go back to 6.0 on the Israeli grind. 7.3 us just broken right now with getting constant 8.3 uptiers. 7.3 to 8.0 was my favorite br in the game but it's pretty much dead to me right now. Makes me sad. I hope they atleast fix the Puma asap.
was using my Magach 1 on 38th Parallel, encountered a stock PUMA who could not pen me at all and i ammo detonated him, was quite hilarious to see him try and revenge kill me in a Ho-229
I wonder when the Strf 9040s are gonna get some love, cuz right now the begleit does everything they do better at a lower BR IMO. Should be upped in br a slight bit.
They have apfsds that can penetrate the same as the bagel's normal ap solid shot, + they have better trajectory, better angled pen amd better post pen damage, aswell as better firerate, oh and don't forget about the better thermals too.
That feel when Germany gets all the good things possible, and makes the BR rating around 7.3 to 8.7 experience absolute dog shit. Great job! Very good, Gaijin! I can't wait for yet another patch full of Germany buffs like the latest... what, 5 or 6 patches?
literally the only vehicle making it unplayable right now is the PUMA and thats getting moved up past 9.0 for sure, the begleitpanzer 57 is pretty balanced at 8.7 i hate shouting "GERMANY SUFFERS", because it really doesnt at all, but saying that germany gets all the good things possible just isnt true I mean even if it did, it makes sense since its a major nation and like all other major nations, the more people who play them the more money gaijin makes. Can't really complain about that..?
Agree, the PUMA is shitting all over other tanks at 8.3, especially when u get uptiered in a 7.3 vehicle to face the invulnerable. While we are still using 1960s tanks at 8.3 , PUMA has everything from the top tier. That shit takes no skills to play with.
@L Yea, not sure why most IFVs are fighting MBTs produced decades ago, they put the IFV at lower tiers to face MBTs directly, that makes no logic to for what IFVs are designed for. Btw, despite the begleit is less threatening at 8.7, it's quite cancerous since everyone could play it for free.
I already made a video about the bagel-panzer and yeah i got to say that the trade off's are marginal at best and overpowering at worst. Also love some content from another WT youtuber. Keep it alive Justin, KEEP IT ALIVE!!!!!.
You were questioning the Italian as that you were shooting at, the commander is in the gun and the gunner is off in the back where the computer systems is, I believe the commander shoots if the battery dies
these damn things (and the puma) are the reason why my Israel grind is a fucking pain. I have an almost 3:1 kd with the Merkava but a 40% win-rate. Everybody’s playing Germany from like 8.3-9.7 with complete lineups.
The begleit can't even penetrate the merkava mk2d at the front with it's missile or autocannon. What the fuck are you doing to die? If you are getting flanked then that's your fault for bad situational awareness.
@@cqpp my fault for situational awareness? Lol you don’t get my point. It’s the teams. I don’t fear any tank at my BR. The merkava’s armor is great and I have great KD with it. It’s that every single fuck is playing Germany 8.3-9.7 with full lineups while my team just gets obliterated the first 5 minutes. How can I not fucking die when my team is gone and i’m surrounded by 3 PUMAs and 2 Begels. Get the point?
@@katerinamalkova1126 I was mostly and constantly playing USA 10.0 and USA 9.3 lineup before the update with the xm1, xm8, m3a3, mbt70, m247, xm803, a4e for 9.3 while m1 abrams, m1128, m3a3, xm8, ags, xm975, a4e for 10.0 before also adding the new a-10a early and LAV-AD to my lineup. Currently I have switched fully to my German 9.0/9.3 lineup which includes a talismaned with GE Leopard 1a5 with ace crew and everything maxed out with crew level 150, begelitpanzer with expert crew and crew level 122, m48 super with expert crew again and level 98 crew, radkampfwagen90 with level 149 nearly 150 crew with ace crew bought by GE after getting half way and the gepard wich I don't normally use since at this br it won't do much but still have it just incase, ontop of that I used to bring in a g91 before the missile nerf, but I don't bring in cas anymore since after the nerf the only good cas for Germany is at 11.0 or 6.7. I'm also playing with one of my friends in a squad, he has a full lineup aswell and we basically position ourselves and flank getting 6-8 kills each or sometimes only 2-4 since our team is filled with level 100 sweats. I will most likely keep this up until I research the puma which I have nearly done without premium account in just 1 1/2 days, then spade it. After that I would grind the new challenger 2 or all of israel in a month maybe. What i ment by situational awareness is that no matter how good the players on the enemy side are, you can always counter it by positioning yourself well in a map, and also holding key choke points, were even if outnumbered you can keep a whole squad of tanks at bay allowing your teammates to flank and annihilate them. I have bought the merkava already myself, I have only played 3 matches in it and so far have a total of 8 kills with it. It is quite slower than an abrams, but it has very good survivability and turret armour aswell as turret rotation speed. I can even see it go up in br as a result. Given enough time the PUMA ifv will go upto 8.7. Then it will go upto 9.0 with all it's bugs fixed.
@@cqpp I think everybody just wants to try the begel buff and the PUMA right now so grinding anything that isn’t germany at 9.0 is a pain (it’s also where most premiums are), true that most sweaty bois are at the PUMA’s br right now and facing a horde of them with one tank and maybe a backup is just ridiculous. Germany arguably has the best 8.3-9.7 lineup right now and it shows. Especially when players flock to it. Seeing as there’s no alternative to grind Israel since there’s really no other option besides 8.7-9.3 it’s really a pain. Especially when you don’t have a lineup. I was thinking of just waiting out the German storm for like a week and get back to it but that would just be wasting time. It just gets really fucking frustrating playing that br when you’re anything but Germany.
@@katerinamalkova1126 yeah, I would probably advise you to ignore anything from 7.3-8.7 if you are not playing Germany. Till most of the sweatlords move on to another vehicle. Since PUMA is a very well known vehicle, I doubt the spam will die out soon, the only difference would be that, the worser players night finally reach the vehicle after a few weeks, so it should either be easier or harder depending on if the veteran players will keep playing it till it goes up in br or if they move in to grind another vehicle immediately. While I don't have much room to talk, I hate these meta sweat lords with a passion, they jump from vehicle to vehicle and milk the ever living shit out of it, till there's nothing left. I would suggest you to grind or play Germany atm aswell or play another nation but 9.3 br or over so you can easily farm these PUMA's. Using something with apfsds and good armour or skip this br bracket, and go play 9.7 till it dies down abit. Since the crafting event is coming, about 20% of these sweatlords are going to move to play and farm bombers by space climbing like 14 hours a day for 20 days straight so they can unlock the event vehicles faster and sell them for a high price before buying them again and keeping atleast 3 to sell in 2 years time when the value increases. These type of players bring about a very toxic environment in war thunder. And even I don't have much room to talk here since I also use the event to make lot's of money and space farming. Well goodluck to you, with whatever vehicles you will play.
Justing I've never got disappointed so fast in my life, going from the previous video to this, Bagel boi was 8.3, and then it got moved to 8.7 (for some reason???) and then got the buff, it was meant to be deceiving so that people who have the memory span of 1 week would forget that it got up br'ed and complain about it, in the end, bringing it to an even HIGHER battle rating cause "community said so" easy exp piniata germany lets go B) edit: I'm maining ussr right now cause of the "frick you german tech" trend that has been going around for 12 years in war thunder, war thunder is my got to "challenge mode" and "use brain mode", even though I get constant high br matches 56 times in a row, I still would consider playing it playing USSR gets so boring that all you do at some point is rush enemies get one kill make them leave and then spawn in T-64 and resume to dominate oh wait I'm supposed to be blind and malding sorry ehem... "yeah germany is so OP they clearly can't die to BMP2 from the front using only APDS no totally unbalanced bring Merkava MK2.D to 3.3 Gaijin plz fiks"
I usually bring 84 rounds cause I don't wanna be an idiot getting ammo rack'd left and right, so the extra ammo is just a bait to get killed even easier (ammo rack) I get far less kills because the APHE is gone, they might as well added an APFSDS round with 27mm of pen
I dont know if you noticed but after the missile gets fired the launcher now goes into the hull to rearm, before to would just face upwards and rearm also they moved the missiles from in the back of the tank to behind the gunner and commander. Still my main 8.7 tank XD
There is no doubt in my mind that the Puma will be going up in BR. It has an APS, crazy survivability, APFSDS, great thermals, and great mobility. There is no reason for it to be 8.3, especially since most vehicles it will face only have HEATFS as their best round (which the Puma's armor completely negates). Currently, the only way to handle a Puma from the front is to knock out the gun and ammunition. However, the Puma can still spot you in that time, meaning the enemy team will know where you are. They can also just repair, retreat to the nearest cap point, and reload their APFSDS belts. This is a direct repeat of the Strf. 9040B situation. We will most likely see it receive a BR increase to 9.0, and then it will either stay there (very comfortably, I might add) or be moved up to 9.3 at a later date. The Begeleit seems to be in this weird spot at the moment. It's not blatantly overpowered like the PUMA, but it is very much overpowered at its current BR. The Begeleit, in my opinion, is arguably in the same boat as the Puma in that it has noticeable tradeoffs that make the two IFVs relatively equivalent. The Begeleit has gen 1 thermals, mediocre survivability (for a light tank), but a great selection of rounds (57mm APCBC, 57mm HE-VT) and an I-TOW launcher. All of these, in my opinion, roughly equate the two IFVs. We will certainly see the Begeleit get a BR increase to 9.0, but, much like the Puma, it may take a little longer for it to go up to 9.3. We will certainly see what happens later down the line, and I personally think these two vehicles belong at the same BR. Wherever they end up, they will be a powerhouse combo. They will both serve as ways to get into CAS and they will certainly be very popular regardless of their BRs. Personally, I would love to play both of them at 9.0, but I know they would be most balanced at 9.3 with the Bradley, Dardo, etc. Not to mention Germany 9.3 is already very strong with the Kpz-70 and the Rad 90, so adding the PUMA and Begeleit to that lineup will be amazing.
PUMA is completely broken now, ofc you can shoot the left side of LFP knocking out the driver and gunner with one hit, but you can do that only with APFSDS and some APDS, its even more robust than the Merkava. Strongly suggest Gayjin to completely remove the vehicle ASAP
@@謙謙君子-b6r There's no need to remove it. It just needs to go up in BR where it can face vehicles that have APFSDS that can defeat its armor. Nearly all vehicles at 9.0 and 9.3 have rounds that can do that. It should be allowed to face vehicles that will struggle against it (ie. 8.0s or 8.3s facing it in an uptier), and it should have to struggle against other vehicles (ie. 10.0s or 10.3s facing it in a downtier). Most 8.3 vehicles can defeat the PUMA's armor, but they can't reliably kill it thanks to the PUMA's maneuverability and stabilization. Most 9.3 vehicles can defeat the PUMA without much issue (it's mostly an even fight). Most 10.3 vehicles can defeat a PUMA without issue (although the PUMA can still put up a fight). I've seen this on multiple occasions by bringing the PUMA up to 9.0 and 9.3 myself. It's perfect at that BR range.
The belgeitpanzer is absolutely not a 9.3 vehicle. It currently only has I-TOW missiles while the m3a3 and dardo carry TOW-2 and TOW-2B missiles. Ontop of that the dardo and m3a3 have better thermals. The only trade off is that the begleit solid shot ap pen is slightly greater than the m3a3 and dardo apfsds pen, however that is negated by the fact that apfsds has much better angled pen, much better trajectory as it is much more faster, and the m3a3 and dardo can shoot more than 2 missiles at a time while the begleit only 1 before it reloads. Also begleit doesn't have smoke grenades, while the m3a3 bradley and dardo both have smoke grenades. The begleitpanzer in any way shape or form is not 9.3 material, it can go to 9.0 after it receives it's smokes and 9.3 maybe if it gets it's apfsds.
@@謙謙君子-b6r BMP-2M, BMD-4, BMP-3 are all at 8.7 with 1200mm pen rapid fire missiles in the move for the bmp-2m, while the bmd-4 trades armour for mobility and can still fire on the move but has less missiles. Currently the PUMA can go up to 8.7, and if the bug fixes are done then it can go to 9.0 without missiles obviously.
@@cqpp You're forgetting one major detail. The Begeleit carries one of the best HE-VT rounds in the game with no limit and it has a laser rangefinder to back that up. It's one of the best vehicles for SPAA in the game right now. This in combination with its new stabilizer and the I-TOW make it worthy of 9.0 at the very least, 9.3 at the most. I agree that it wouldn't be the best 9.3, but I could easily see Gaijin moving it up to 9.3 from 9.0 if they were to give it anything else (like smoke or APFSDS like you mentioned). Also, for the BMPs, it's been clear for a while that they're untertiered. The BMP-2 should probably move up to 8.7, the BMP-3 and BMD-4 should probably move up to 9.0, and the BMP-2M should be moved back up to 9.3 (where it was when it was introduced to the game). Also the PUMA is 100% capable of going up to 9.3 without many issues. The only issue I would see is the stock belt being absolutely terrible. Otherwise, it should be at 9.3 with the Strf. 9040B.
If you can only carry 10 rounds you have to restock them, probably what happend is that if you already had the bagel when it could only carry 10 HE-VT and you had ammo auto-restock for some reason the game would only give you up to 10 rounds automatically, and even when you went to select ammo quantities in battle it would show 10 max. As I said to solve this you gotta go to the mods menu go to the “broken” ammo type and jusy buy more
Yeah, I noticed the blocked off bit on jungle a few days ago. I doubt they'll change anything for a while, which is disappointing since I really enjoy sniping from up there.
That part of the map is crucial for the overall control of the game. Who controlls the hill, controlls the advance to the C cap. Who controlls the C cap usually wins the game because A and B are "handed over" to both teams for free so the only legitimate battle is for the C cap point. This change just made the map the most unballanced, one-sided map in the game. I used to love this map, now I hate playing it because I use that spot literally always, and now when I can use it I feel it is unfair to the other team and when I can't use it I see my team loosing the game a lot more because we can not use it. Utter bullshit. If you want to remove it, remove it completely, snail.
Another buff to the Russian/German OP tech trees that didn't really need it. It takes all of 2 minutes before I'm spawn-camped by the BIG TWO (Russ/Germ) in most of the mid/top tiers...and that is BEFORE this latest patch. Yes, A-10 is now in game and it's fodder for SAM/SPAAG like we'd said it would be. Can't watch the whole video as I'm not into the baby-seal clubbing that this turned out to be.
Play another tech tree freeaboo, with your OP a-10. The a-10 performs very good with the 2 aim-9l's. I have the A-10 early at 9.7. Not sure what the fuck you are doing with it. Get better at the game freeaboo.
This is one of the best IFVs now. Strf 9040 levels of pen but an AP. And on Jungle… I’m glad they are blocking off that bottom part of the map with blocks and trees. That area is incredibly annoying to deal with.
Exactly why it should be left in. It is a very tactical spot in the game and makes you really earn that C cap point if you want to win the game. Blocking it on one side just gives the other team a huge tactical, unfair advantage from the very beginning of the match.
Just got killed by you on sands of Sinai and noticed you did a turret shake, immediately had a feeling it was you because no one else ever does that lol
It's a neat little trick meant to bait shots to the thickest part of the turret. Because usually, most players will immediately go for your barrel/breach. You'd be surprised at how well it works!
The VT round bug is a bug because Failjin nerfed the Begleit to be only able to carry 10 VT rounds ages ago and then they changed it back. But they didnt fix it for people that got the nerf, so you have to manually buy the additional VT ammo in order to take more than 10 into battle. Its a joke.
I remember when I was grinding the Begle way before it got stabilized. And even that I thought it was "OP" vehicle. Taking down both ground and air down easily. Only think that I would say kept it balance at 8.3 and then 8.7 was that unstable gun where if you would start spam shooting at something your gun was jumping everywhere. But know when it's stabilized I think it should go up in BR. Maybe 9.0 would be fine. PUMA is way different thing. If you don't have APFSDS amd you do t see it from front so you can shoot where driver is, there is really small chance of killing it from other sides and it having all that and other thins. I think it should go up minimum 9.7/10.0 but I think PUMA will be hard to balance eather way. I think what would balance it if they didn't give it non stop 400 round belt and gave ot that reload between each belt. For CV9040s you have 1st stage ammo of 24 rounds and it takes long time before you fully replenish it, same with Japanese Type 89. Bradley, Dardo and Warrior needs to reload between each belt also. BMP-2,3 and BMD-4 have one non stop belt, but half of it is APDS and other is mix what ever you decide and can be easily killed. When you compare other IFVs to German one, the German after this update has the Best IFVs in the game now
I agree on the puma needing a first ammo stage like the Swedish IFV instead of that non stop firing bullshit it is now, they are easy to kill if you shoot at the right spot but that barrel breaking spam with the puma is kind of ridiculous right now
YOOOOOO, the bagel is by far my favorite FIV and before it was you know a diferent playstyle since you had no stabs but now i just roll and shoot and it's just amazing haha
@@jaxrammus9165 Era? More like nera.... Everywhere... Including hull roof. 125he into turret kills even leo2a6 and m1a2, but damn puma doesnt gives a shit.
Problem solved. Lol been playing WT for 4 years and just realized that there is a bit when you're selecting the ammo to manually buy the shells. What is life...
13:07 i swear....getting package loss is much more painful and piss me off more than getting kill multiple time. getting killed at least i know it was my fault but getting PL it just pure bullshit on Gayjin part
There is not, it's a SAP round (semi-armor piercing) which works half the time as a HE round and the other half as a AP round that fail to pen. Worst type of round for a ground vehicle...
19:20 As someone trying to grind the Mi-4 at the moment....this clip makes me lose all hope. You shot him down before he even got in missile range. He obviously wasn't playing it very smart coming in high over the battlefield like that....but an Mi-4 still needs line of sight under 4km range to have any hope of destroying a Bagel
@@JustinPlaysTV I have good news and bad news. The bad news is I have it on good authority that somewhere out there through sheer force of spite a little Mi-4 transformed into a KA-50. The good news is I heard he used your discount link to do so
People out here complaining about the PUMA, just play the IS-7, T-10M, IS-4, T-10A, IS-3 etc, they can't harm you. Not to mention BMP-2M, BMD-4, BMP-3 and all those at the same BR.
All i see are T72 AV TURMS and the Chinese PTW tank and they dominate. The soviet tank is lower than the Leo 2 in BR but so much more powerful....makes no sense until you realize who makes the game.
but u are not the only one in vegas, in germany on the cost close to polen the one state on the cost next to polen i have bad network connection to. I anjoy your videos really and learn sth more about how to play to get more sl and rp
The reason why some people said it can only carry 10 rounds of HE-VT is because they forgot to resupply it to the max amount, so they need to open the modification screen and resupply it. Probably a bug but there's that.
13:15 rare sight of a PUMA using its flying technology
German engineering never disappoints
I was about to go to sleep, but ig I gotta watch this now lmao
me too it's 12pm here I I school at 6 😆
Same
13:16 The new super buffed 5th tier modification for the IFV Puma: quantum levitation.
1:14 To carry more he-vt and sap-t rounds, go to modifications and purchase the rounds to want, after that you can carry as many you like
True!!!
thanks a lot!
There’s one thing which I noticed and why I personally also enjoy watching your videos so much.
Of course the great commentary, voice and skill aside.
What sets you off from a fair few other UA-camrs, especially the big ones, is that you “just play the game”. You bring a lineup into the match, don’t have everything maxed out and every crew at lvl150, you capture points and generally play like a teammate I’d love to have on my team, it feels like you play for the victory, not the most kills or the most amazing UA-cam intro kill (Those things just come naturally)
Justin you should've swapped to the HE-VT round while dealing with squishy targets and SPAAs, they'll get overpressured saving you a lot of ammo.
It's something people should be doing more
You mind explaining overpressure a bit? I used to use heat on squishies and it would hull break most of the time. Nowadays I'm aware that there is overpressure but I don't know how it works very well.
@@Oysterkeeper HE component go BOOM... light stuff and humans go POP🤔😂
...ok, I genuinely don't know how to describe it outside of the explosive sending a pressure wave out and it's destructive up until a point.
I guess where hullbreak was about the structure, overpressure is about the crew damage? I'm sure someone has a far better explanation😂
Open topped tanks like even an M10 can be overpressure from "normal" caliber HE rounds, which is kinda BS 😅
@@liamboyle9199 I appreciate the response but I more meant how it works in war thunder. Like with hullbreak, I could shoot the mounted 50 cal on top of an m18 with a heat shell and somehow it got hull broken.
With HE and overpressure, I assume I actually need to aim? What for? Does it work often? Etc. Etc.
@@Oysterkeeper overpressure essentially means if you have an HE round, trap shot can become viable. originally, if you shoot a medium tank at the copula, it just explode there and nothing else, but with overpressure, when the round hit the copula and explode, the blast energy from the HE explosion will now travelling through that penetration, dealing more damage to the whole crew inside even if its fragmentations don't hit any of them. that means HE now can not only kill light vehicles, but can also kill heavy tanks if you know where to aim for, like how an HE round kill a Tiger at the front in one shot by shooting at the commander port.
What I love about the he-vt is that it can intercept helicopter missiles, unguided rockets, and over pressure light tanks
Its 3 am in argentina? Yes. I should go to work at 8am? Also yes. Imma still watch new Justin Vid? Defenitely yes.
The new PUMA reminds me of when the IS-6 where added. Absolute disaster gameplay at that tier. Played a few hours yesterday. My whole team was destroyed by those things, game after game after game.
skill issue. played 20 games in it today with many others and there was no landslide puma dominations
@@jaxrammus9165 its not skill issue even if you're so good at the game when there's 6 puma's stomping the map then there's nothing you can do.
@@Entropy-kj8iq I didnt say I was good, and it is skill because our of the 25 games played yesterday there were 4ish stomps per team. Fairly noal result
@@Entropy-kj8iq it is a fucking skill issue
Mr.sergeant edwin
You are shut at the game, and I heavily recommend you play the begleitpanzer for yourself, it is not the PUMA which eventually needs to move upto 9.0.
And also the BMP-2M is at 8.7 don't forget that, which is better than the begleitpanzer.
It has better missiles
Rapid fire 4 atgms of 1200mm pen
Gen 2 thermals while the begleit has gen1
Can fire on the move, while the begleit has to stop to fire
The begleit has proximity fuse, however the bmp-2m has proximity fuse missile for aircraft and helicopters
The bmp2m has smoke grenades while the begleit doesn't.
Stop being biased and play another tech tree that isn't America. Freeaboo.
Justin comeon, its not breaking the meta, its breaking the game
"i am still on that 7.3 grind" as he has 11.3 preset
He just has test drive vehicles. They disappear after a month and he has to grind like normal to get them back.
Actually there's a way to get to that area that they "blocked" on jungle for both sides, on Justin's side you have to go to a little spot that if you climb can get you to the other side of the tank traps.
Edit: I can't exactly tell where it is but you should find it on the left side of the road that's blocked by tank traps, there is a little hill and if you climb it you're on the other side, I've done it with and Ariete P without engine modifications so at all mbts should be able to use that path, don't know about ww2 vehicles though. Hope that was helpful
Hint for you no this map, the g-line part isnt blocked for your spawn, you can pass it on the mountain close to your spawn lagoon, even with the maus
Used this first game of the patch and got a nuke that game lol
One thing that's bit me a few times: the proxy rounds have a 500 meter arming distance, meaning if you shoot at a chopper RIGHT on top of you it has to be a direct hit.
Bud I know what you mean. I was shooting 10.0 and trying to use the XM975 and I live up in Inspirada and the Network just doesn’t want to work out her either. I must have looked strange sending out Roland’s and having them bob and weave all over the sky 🤣👍🏻
5:15 actually you can still go up there, you have to climb but it's still possible
It's annoying in a way because it's going to go up in BR. 9.0/9.3 is already jam packed for Germany. Currently it's a great A10 killer because no giveaway with radar warning.
I had to go back to 6.0 on the Israeli grind. 7.3 us just broken right now with getting constant 8.3 uptiers. 7.3 to 8.0 was my favorite br in the game but it's pretty much dead to me right now. Makes me sad. I hope they atleast fix the Puma asap.
You can still move to 6 o'clock on the map through the f6 hill on the jungle map. They didn't block all routes
was using my Magach 1 on 38th Parallel, encountered a stock PUMA who could not pen me at all and i ammo detonated him, was quite hilarious to see him try and revenge kill me in a Ho-229
German players came for the heavies but stayed for the lights
oh yea "ShOcKiNgLy" stabilizer makes it so good that I can FINALLY face modern 20s' BMPs and PT-76-57 lmfao
I wonder when the Strf 9040s are gonna get some love, cuz right now the begleit does everything they do better at a lower BR IMO. Should be upped in br a slight bit.
No, just no
They have apfsds that can penetrate the same as the bagel's normal ap solid shot, + they have better trajectory, better angled pen amd better post pen damage, aswell as better firerate, oh and don't forget about the better thermals too.
1:20 you have to go buy more shells under the modification menu to load more shells, I've had this happen to me
Hey Justin on the first map both sides can still get into the back area of the map. They just changed where to go to do it
That feel when Germany gets all the good things possible, and makes the BR rating around 7.3 to 8.7 experience absolute dog shit.
Great job! Very good, Gaijin! I can't wait for yet another patch full of Germany buffs like the latest... what, 5 or 6 patches?
literally the only vehicle making it unplayable right now is the PUMA and thats getting moved up past 9.0 for sure, the begleitpanzer 57 is pretty balanced at 8.7
i hate shouting "GERMANY SUFFERS", because it really doesnt at all, but saying that germany gets all the good things possible just isnt true
I mean even if it did, it makes sense since its a major nation and like all other major nations, the more people who play them the more money gaijin makes. Can't really complain about that..?
I think PUMA need missiles if it get higher than 8.7, it’s lethal but it can’t do jack shit to a tank upfront
@@soangkeareaksmey1034 it doesnt have missiles irl
Agree, the PUMA is shitting all over other tanks at 8.3, especially when u get uptiered in a 7.3 vehicle to face the invulnerable. While we are still using 1960s tanks at 8.3 , PUMA has everything from the top tier. That shit takes no skills to play with.
@L Yea, not sure why most IFVs are fighting MBTs produced decades ago, they put the IFV at lower tiers to face MBTs directly, that makes no logic to for what IFVs are designed for. Btw, despite the begleit is less threatening at 8.7, it's quite cancerous since everyone could play it for free.
I already made a video about the bagel-panzer and yeah i got to say that the trade off's are marginal at best and overpowering at worst. Also love some content from another WT youtuber. Keep it alive Justin, KEEP IT ALIVE!!!!!.
You were questioning the Italian as that you were shooting at, the commander is in the gun and the gunner is off in the back where the computer systems is, I believe the commander shoots if the battery dies
OFC, Germany always gaijin's daddy
I bonk so many helicopters with this thing at the range up to 6km
before you went over the missile I totally forgot it had one cause they never use it 💀💀
these damn things (and the puma) are the reason why my Israel grind is a fucking pain. I have an almost 3:1 kd with the Merkava but a 40% win-rate. Everybody’s playing Germany from like 8.3-9.7 with complete lineups.
The begleit can't even penetrate the merkava mk2d at the front with it's missile or autocannon.
What the fuck are you doing to die? If you are getting flanked then that's your fault for bad situational awareness.
@@cqpp my fault for situational awareness? Lol you don’t get my point. It’s the teams. I don’t fear any tank at my BR. The merkava’s armor is great and I have great KD with it. It’s that every single fuck is playing Germany 8.3-9.7 with full lineups while my team just gets obliterated the first 5 minutes. How can I not fucking die when my team is gone and i’m surrounded by 3 PUMAs and 2 Begels. Get the point?
@@katerinamalkova1126 I was mostly and constantly playing USA 10.0 and USA 9.3 lineup before the update with the xm1, xm8, m3a3, mbt70, m247, xm803, a4e for 9.3 while m1 abrams, m1128, m3a3, xm8, ags, xm975, a4e for 10.0 before also adding the new a-10a early and LAV-AD to my lineup.
Currently I have switched fully to my German 9.0/9.3 lineup which includes a talismaned with GE Leopard 1a5 with ace crew and everything maxed out with crew level 150, begelitpanzer with expert crew and crew level 122, m48 super with expert crew again and level 98 crew, radkampfwagen90 with level 149 nearly 150 crew with ace crew bought by GE after getting half way and the gepard wich I don't normally use since at this br it won't do much but still have it just incase, ontop of that I used to bring in a g91 before the missile nerf, but I don't bring in cas anymore since after the nerf the only good cas for Germany is at 11.0 or 6.7.
I'm also playing with one of my friends in a squad, he has a full lineup aswell and we basically position ourselves and flank getting 6-8 kills each or sometimes only 2-4 since our team is filled with level 100 sweats.
I will most likely keep this up until I research the puma which I have nearly done without premium account in just 1 1/2 days, then spade it. After that I would grind the new challenger 2 or all of israel in a month maybe.
What i ment by situational awareness is that no matter how good the players on the enemy side are, you can always counter it by positioning yourself well in a map, and also holding key choke points, were even if outnumbered you can keep a whole squad of tanks at bay allowing your teammates to flank and annihilate them.
I have bought the merkava already myself, I have only played 3 matches in it and so far have a total of 8 kills with it. It is quite slower than an abrams, but it has very good survivability and turret armour aswell as turret rotation speed. I can even see it go up in br as a result.
Given enough time the PUMA ifv will go upto 8.7. Then it will go upto 9.0 with all it's bugs fixed.
@@cqpp I think everybody just wants to try the begel buff and the PUMA right now so grinding anything that isn’t germany at 9.0 is a pain (it’s also where most premiums are), true that most sweaty bois are at the PUMA’s br right now and facing a horde of them with one tank and maybe a backup is just ridiculous. Germany arguably has the best 8.3-9.7 lineup right now and it shows. Especially when players flock to it. Seeing as there’s no alternative to grind Israel since there’s really no other option besides 8.7-9.3 it’s really a pain. Especially when you don’t have a lineup. I was thinking of just waiting out the German storm for like a week and get back to it but that would just be wasting time. It just gets really fucking frustrating playing that br when you’re anything but Germany.
@@katerinamalkova1126 yeah, I would probably advise you to ignore anything from 7.3-8.7 if you are not playing Germany. Till most of the sweatlords move on to another vehicle.
Since PUMA is a very well known vehicle, I doubt the spam will die out soon, the only difference would be that, the worser players night finally reach the vehicle after a few weeks, so it should either be easier or harder depending on if the veteran players will keep playing it till it goes up in br or if they move in to grind another vehicle immediately.
While I don't have much room to talk, I hate these meta sweat lords with a passion, they jump from vehicle to vehicle and milk the ever living shit out of it, till there's nothing left.
I would suggest you to grind or play Germany atm aswell or play another nation but 9.3 br or over so you can easily farm these PUMA's. Using something with apfsds and good armour or skip this br bracket, and go play 9.7 till it dies down abit.
Since the crafting event is coming, about 20% of these sweatlords are going to move to play and farm bombers by space climbing like 14 hours a day for 20 days straight so they can unlock the event vehicles faster and sell them for a high price before buying them again and keeping atleast 3 to sell in 2 years time when the value increases.
These type of players bring about a very toxic environment in war thunder. And even I don't have much room to talk here since I also use the event to make lot's of money and space farming.
Well goodluck to you, with whatever vehicles you will play.
Germany never suffered, the suffering is purely down to the lack of braincells by the people who main it.
Justing I've never got disappointed so fast in my life, going from the previous video to this, Bagel boi was 8.3, and then it got moved to 8.7 (for some reason???) and then got the buff, it was meant to be deceiving so that people who have the memory span of 1 week would forget that it got up br'ed and complain about it, in the end, bringing it to an even HIGHER battle rating cause "community said so"
easy exp piniata germany lets go B)
edit: I'm maining ussr right now cause of the "frick you german tech" trend that has been going around for 12 years in war thunder, war thunder is my got to "challenge mode" and "use brain mode", even though I get constant high br matches 56 times in a row, I still would consider playing it
playing USSR gets so boring that all you do at some point is rush enemies get one kill make them leave and then spawn in T-64 and resume to dominate
oh wait I'm supposed to be blind and malding sorry ehem... "yeah germany is so OP they clearly can't die to BMP2 from the front using only APDS no totally unbalanced bring Merkava MK2.D to 3.3 Gaijin plz fiks"
say with me " germany suffers "
Yea same, i still carry 50 HE-VT rounds because honestly this thing is just the anti-everything tank and i love using it to clap helis and planes
I usually bring 84 rounds cause I don't wanna be an idiot getting ammo rack'd left and right, so the extra ammo is just a bait to get killed even easier (ammo rack)
I get far less kills because the APHE is gone, they might as well added an APFSDS round with 27mm of pen
I dont know if you noticed but after the missile gets fired the launcher now goes into the hull to rearm, before to would just face upwards and rearm also they moved the missiles from in the back of the tank to behind the gunner and commander. Still my main 8.7 tank XD
The AP-T round got more pen effect...previously was 126mm and now it's 137mm.
"Wow 11mm will make a huge difference"
My idea of ammo management, is 78 APCBC, 20 SAPHEI, 50 HE-VT
Just sat here in my Warrior looking at the German light tanks… oh the envy
Definitely not going to play 7.3-8.7 for a good while now ffs the social credit grind can wait
come to 3.3 or 5.3 absolute hoot and a holler down here.
@@Glumpuzzler I don’t mind it but it’s a little slow paced tbh
go 5.3 - 5.7 it's a fun br
There is no doubt in my mind that the Puma will be going up in BR. It has an APS, crazy survivability, APFSDS, great thermals, and great mobility. There is no reason for it to be 8.3, especially since most vehicles it will face only have HEATFS as their best round (which the Puma's armor completely negates). Currently, the only way to handle a Puma from the front is to knock out the gun and ammunition. However, the Puma can still spot you in that time, meaning the enemy team will know where you are. They can also just repair, retreat to the nearest cap point, and reload their APFSDS belts. This is a direct repeat of the Strf. 9040B situation. We will most likely see it receive a BR increase to 9.0, and then it will either stay there (very comfortably, I might add) or be moved up to 9.3 at a later date.
The Begeleit seems to be in this weird spot at the moment. It's not blatantly overpowered like the PUMA, but it is very much overpowered at its current BR. The Begeleit, in my opinion, is arguably in the same boat as the Puma in that it has noticeable tradeoffs that make the two IFVs relatively equivalent. The Begeleit has gen 1 thermals, mediocre survivability (for a light tank), but a great selection of rounds (57mm APCBC, 57mm HE-VT) and an I-TOW launcher. All of these, in my opinion, roughly equate the two IFVs. We will certainly see the Begeleit get a BR increase to 9.0, but, much like the Puma, it may take a little longer for it to go up to 9.3.
We will certainly see what happens later down the line, and I personally think these two vehicles belong at the same BR. Wherever they end up, they will be a powerhouse combo. They will both serve as ways to get into CAS and they will certainly be very popular regardless of their BRs. Personally, I would love to play both of them at 9.0, but I know they would be most balanced at 9.3 with the Bradley, Dardo, etc. Not to mention Germany 9.3 is already very strong with the Kpz-70 and the Rad 90, so adding the PUMA and Begeleit to that lineup will be amazing.
PUMA is completely broken now, ofc you can shoot the left side of LFP knocking out the driver and gunner with one hit, but you can do that only with APFSDS and some APDS, its even more robust than the Merkava. Strongly suggest Gayjin to completely remove the vehicle ASAP
@@謙謙君子-b6r There's no need to remove it. It just needs to go up in BR where it can face vehicles that have APFSDS that can defeat its armor. Nearly all vehicles at 9.0 and 9.3 have rounds that can do that. It should be allowed to face vehicles that will struggle against it (ie. 8.0s or 8.3s facing it in an uptier), and it should have to struggle against other vehicles (ie. 10.0s or 10.3s facing it in a downtier).
Most 8.3 vehicles can defeat the PUMA's armor, but they can't reliably kill it thanks to the PUMA's maneuverability and stabilization. Most 9.3 vehicles can defeat the PUMA without much issue (it's mostly an even fight). Most 10.3 vehicles can defeat a PUMA without issue (although the PUMA can still put up a fight). I've seen this on multiple occasions by bringing the PUMA up to 9.0 and 9.3 myself. It's perfect at that BR range.
The belgeitpanzer is absolutely not a 9.3 vehicle.
It currently only has I-TOW missiles while the m3a3 and dardo carry TOW-2 and TOW-2B missiles. Ontop of that the dardo and m3a3 have better thermals. The only trade off is that the begleit solid shot ap pen is slightly greater than the m3a3 and dardo apfsds pen, however that is negated by the fact that apfsds has much better angled pen, much better trajectory as it is much more faster, and the m3a3 and dardo can shoot more than 2 missiles at a time while the begleit only 1 before it reloads.
Also begleit doesn't have smoke grenades, while the m3a3 bradley and dardo both have smoke grenades.
The begleitpanzer in any way shape or form is not 9.3 material, it can go to 9.0 after it receives it's smokes and 9.3 maybe if it gets it's apfsds.
@@謙謙君子-b6r BMP-2M, BMD-4, BMP-3 are all at 8.7 with 1200mm pen rapid fire missiles in the move for the bmp-2m, while the bmd-4 trades armour for mobility and can still fire on the move but has less missiles.
Currently the PUMA can go up to 8.7, and if the bug fixes are done then it can go to 9.0 without missiles obviously.
@@cqpp You're forgetting one major detail. The Begeleit carries one of the best HE-VT rounds in the game with no limit and it has a laser rangefinder to back that up. It's one of the best vehicles for SPAA in the game right now. This in combination with its new stabilizer and the I-TOW make it worthy of 9.0 at the very least, 9.3 at the most. I agree that it wouldn't be the best 9.3, but I could easily see Gaijin moving it up to 9.3 from 9.0 if they were to give it anything else (like smoke or APFSDS like you mentioned).
Also, for the BMPs, it's been clear for a while that they're untertiered. The BMP-2 should probably move up to 8.7, the BMP-3 and BMD-4 should probably move up to 9.0, and the BMP-2M should be moved back up to 9.3 (where it was when it was introduced to the game).
Also the PUMA is 100% capable of going up to 9.3 without many issues. The only issue I would see is the stock belt being absolutely terrible. Otherwise, it should be at 9.3 with the Strf. 9040B.
If you can only carry 10 rounds you have to restock them, probably what happend is that if you already had the bagel when it could only carry 10 HE-VT and you had ammo auto-restock for some reason the game would only give you up to 10 rounds automatically, and even when you went to select ammo quantities in battle it would show 10 max. As I said to solve this you gotta go to the mods menu go to the “broken” ammo type and jusy buy more
I only carry 30 rounds of proxie fuse ammo and the rest default apbc. Never feel short of AA ammo
Only toom them what, 2 years, to fix it. Was one of the reasons i never fully spaded it
Now, what to do with the BMP-2M?
Just gotta wait for United Kingdom branch to get a few more IFVs. Namely FV101 Scorpion, FV107 Scimitar and Ajax at some point
Yeah, I noticed the blocked off bit on jungle a few days ago. I doubt they'll change anything for a while, which is disappointing since I really enjoy sniping from up there.
It's not blocked of get some speed and your over it , some parts are left open , I've gotten on it from both sides , with light to mbt to spaa
That part of the map is crucial for the overall control of the game. Who controlls the hill, controlls the advance to the C cap. Who controlls the C cap usually wins the game because A and B are "handed over" to both teams for free so the only legitimate battle is for the C cap point. This change just made the map the most unballanced, one-sided map in the game. I used to love this map, now I hate playing it because I use that spot literally always, and now when I can use it I feel it is unfair to the other team and when I can't use it I see my team loosing the game a lot more because we can not use it. Utter bullshit. If you want to remove it, remove it completely, snail.
you very much can still get up there, just got to climb the mountain bit near your spawn first
Another buff to the Russian/German OP tech trees that didn't really need it. It takes all of 2 minutes before I'm spawn-camped by the BIG TWO (Russ/Germ) in most of the mid/top tiers...and that is BEFORE this latest patch. Yes, A-10 is now in game and it's fodder for SAM/SPAAG like we'd said it would be. Can't watch the whole video as I'm not into the baby-seal clubbing that this turned out to be.
Play another tech tree freeaboo, with your OP a-10. The a-10 performs very good with the 2 aim-9l's. I have the A-10 early at 9.7. Not sure what the fuck you are doing with it.
Get better at the game freeaboo.
German 8.7 to 9.7 is so frustrating to play against right now
Jesus he was going crazy
Please justin do the Zachlam Tager next! Also glad you're covering the bagel too, great video! :D
The old speed was like 18 degrees, 20 expert. Still good, but now with 47 degrees, its basically an AA.
This is one of the best IFVs now. Strf 9040 levels of pen but an AP. And on Jungle… I’m glad they are blocking off that bottom part of the map with blocks and trees. That area is incredibly annoying to deal with.
Exactly why it should be left in. It is a very tactical spot in the game and makes you really earn that C cap point if you want to win the game. Blocking it on one side just gives the other team a huge tactical, unfair advantage from the very beginning of the match.
VT rounds are ridiculous against choppers and aircraft. Much easier to use than Gepard
Ok Justin i see your 7.7 grind and raise you the french 8.0 and 8.3 lineup with no stabilizers at all until 9.3
when T25 stabilizer bacc?
Just got killed by you on sands of Sinai and noticed you did a turret shake, immediately had a feeling it was you because no one else ever does that lol
It's a neat little trick meant to bait shots to the thickest part of the turret. Because usually, most players will immediately go for your barrel/breach. You'd be surprised at how well it works!
@@JustinPlaysTV yeah I'm surprised no tries it
The VT round bug is a bug because Failjin nerfed the Begleit to be only able to carry 10 VT rounds ages ago and then they changed it back. But they didnt fix it for people that got the nerf, so you have to manually buy the additional VT ammo in order to take more than 10 into battle. Its a joke.
I remember when I was grinding the Begle way before it got stabilized. And even that I thought it was "OP" vehicle. Taking down both ground and air down easily. Only think that I would say kept it balance at 8.3 and then 8.7 was that unstable gun where if you would start spam shooting at something your gun was jumping everywhere. But know when it's stabilized I think it should go up in BR. Maybe 9.0 would be fine. PUMA is way different thing. If you don't have APFSDS amd you do t see it from front so you can shoot where driver is, there is really small chance of killing it from other sides and it having all that and other thins. I think it should go up minimum 9.7/10.0 but I think PUMA will be hard to balance eather way. I think what would balance it if they didn't give it non stop 400 round belt and gave ot that reload between each belt. For CV9040s you have 1st stage ammo of 24 rounds and it takes long time before you fully replenish it, same with Japanese Type 89. Bradley, Dardo and Warrior needs to reload between each belt also. BMP-2,3 and BMD-4 have one non stop belt, but half of it is APDS and other is mix what ever you decide and can be easily killed. When you compare other IFVs to German one, the German after this update has the Best IFVs in the game now
I agree on the puma needing a first ammo stage like the Swedish IFV instead of that non stop firing bullshit it is now, they are easy to kill if you shoot at the right spot but that barrel breaking spam with the puma is kind of ridiculous right now
why go up in br when the shit it fights is inherently busted?
Is the Chinese light line (the cm11 line) good? Rn I'm at the type 63 or should I just go for the su122 line?
YOOOOOO, the bagel is by far my favorite FIV and before it was you know a diferent playstyle since you had no stabs but now i just roll and shoot and it's just amazing haha
I liked much more normal ammunition with 95 mm pen and explosive mass than stab and bigger ammunition magazines
Isreal feels so incompete and almost like 7.7 from 3-4 years ago. You must play slow and methodically while most other tanks zip around
Germany has META IFV
Light tanks is literally germans 8.7 lineup
I sometimes wonder what a 120mm HESH shell would do to one of these..
125mm he from t72 into puma. Nothing...
Probably nothing. Begleit even bounces off FV4005 shells sometimes.
@@raphaelambrosiuscosteau6685 era is great, cool that germany finally gets some and its not just russians :)
@@jaxrammus9165 Era? More like nera.... Everywhere... Including hull roof. 125he into turret kills even leo2a6 and m1a2, but damn puma doesnt gives a shit.
@@raphaelambrosiuscosteau6685 "my I press 2 and win button isn't omnipotent anymore :( that thing, not my thing, is op "
Yikes bro
Germany got the bagel few buffs and a nerf to make it fair and it makes sense. Meanwhile Japan just gets nerfs and nothing else. Why.
cuz imagine playing Japan only weebs play them
i am sorry but i would take the apcbc over the stab and these useless sap rounds every day tbh they kinda killed that thing for me
man that puma is soo op and it can fly!
I'm trying to grind the Brit with the Rooikat, and these little shits along with PUMA is so annoying.
Justin "This is so stupid, we just held W"
Thats basically every russian 11.0 player
Lmao GeRmAnY sUfFeRs guy
Oohhh that's why everyone Play with them.
And the swedish 40mm rounds got nerfed to the ground....
I know your pain i am currently grinding the apfds ammunition of the rooikat mttd at 8.7. so i am fighting Puma with heatfs... 😅
Cant swing atgms anymore. An end of an era.
They are actually realistic now
How da hell you got so many HR-VTs? I'm limited to 10 only, what is going on? Hellllpp!
Problem solved. Lol been playing WT for 4 years and just realized that there is a bit when you're selecting the ammo to manually buy the shells. What is life...
Germany is SUPER good rn, so much fun; out of 20 games i probably only lost 4 of them
I love to play VI tier germany but I hate to plays top tier germany, becouse all of my team is one machine leopard 2pl players
13:07 i swear....getting package loss is much more painful and piss me off more than getting kill multiple time.
getting killed at least i know it was my fault but getting PL it just pure bullshit on Gayjin part
begleit still has ap-he , it's a weird aphe , but i think it's the same
There is not, it's a SAP round (semi-armor piercing) which works half the time as a HE round and the other half as a AP round that fail to pen.
Worst type of round for a ground vehicle...
the old one had upwards of 90-95 pen at point blank so it's a really big downgrade
can you play fv4202?
Oh no but they still suffer
The way you pronounce "Begleit" and wrote it in your description gives my german heart anxiety.
Hey I had to fight the autocorrect.. I tend to miss SOME words every now and then xP
Nope went all the way up too 9.7 lol
It's pronaunsed bleightpanzer
If Bagleit gets higher BR than 8.7, they most put bmp2m in a higher BR too...bpm2m is WAYYYY better than Bagleit.
19:20 As someone trying to grind the Mi-4 at the moment....this clip makes me lose all hope. You shot him down before he even got in missile range. He obviously wasn't playing it very smart coming in high over the battlefield like that....but an Mi-4 still needs line of sight under 4km range to have any hope of destroying a Bagel
That MI4 will one day be a KA-52/MI-28NM. I slowed his advance by a single game.
I have no regrets.
@@JustinPlaysTV I have good news and bad news. The bad news is I have it on good authority that somewhere out there through sheer force of spite a little Mi-4 transformed into a KA-50. The good news is I heard he used your discount link to do so
People out here complaining about the PUMA, just play the IS-7, T-10M, IS-4, T-10A, IS-3 etc, they can't harm you. Not to mention BMP-2M, BMD-4, BMP-3 and all those at the same BR.
All i see are T72 AV TURMS and the Chinese PTW tank and they dominate. The soviet tank is lower than the Leo 2 in BR but so much more powerful....makes no sense until you realize who makes the game.
Yesterday I got 999 ping
Play the Fiat 6614
I can carry so many VT rounds
You can’t struggle on the Israeli line up, if you don’t play it 🤷🏻♂️
Puma and Begleit is the deadliest 8.7 duo right now!
It shouldnt be on 9.3 now
but u are not the only one in vegas, in germany on the cost close to polen the one state on the cost next to polen i have bad network connection to. I anjoy your videos really and learn sth more about how to play to get more sl and rp
bagel at 9.0 :((((
and now 9.3 lol
@@rpscorp9457 i havent played in too long
@@lawrence.ap287 If you start again, avoid 9.3 lol... Its nothing but 2M's