The T-72M indeed had worse coverage on the turret armor than on the Russian T-72A because that was cheaper to produce. In game tho it's only visually different since the actual armor protection is volumetric and not affected by the Xray module.
The T-72M was know as Ural which have just a monolithic steel turret, then the M1 (or Ural-1) introduced the same filler used later on the A model (the quartz turret), with many original Ural upgraded to both version Ural-1 and T-72A (mod.1979).
I strongly agree with you on that.. Germany 8.3-8.7 doesn't have much to offer in terms of medium tanks and its should've been added long long time ago.
Dude you killed it. That initial streak in the dark was wild. And I like when you play the map knowledge maps because it helps me find better ways to play so I can actually aid my team and not just aid the enemy
It was a fine experience with the Finnish one, for being armed just with the 3BM22. It lacks some pen value but the spall output is great even facing other Soviet/Russian tanks (one tapping TURMS was so fun)
2:52 , the reason you might be surviving more in t80s, is because they use the vertical loading system, as in war thunder, the entire loading system is covered in armour (which is not visible in xray) and that is what is "preventing" majority of the spalling on russian tanks ( this is why when you shoot the side turret, it does actually spall a lot), while on the t72s and t90s, the loading system is down low, which is also protected by the armor around the carousel, but by that fact, there is no armor in middle of the tank, which means when you shood middle side on these tanks, like t72 and t90, they spall far more, normally. I think there is little russian bias (maybe slight changes needed for some russian tanks) but it mostly comes down to the damage model, which even some non russian/chinese tanks have. According to the WT WIKI, armor thinner than 5mm doesnt spall. If you go into nvidia ansel and do free view in the hangar, and go inside the tank while in armor view, you can see there is internal armour, which is light blue (very thin), so its presumably under 5mm. There are actually multiple non russian/chinese tanks with internal armour thinner than 5mm and it also doesnt produce spall, but only CONSUMES spall. This is why russian tanks feel so strong. This is why the merkava sometimes spalls a ton, when you shoot the turret ring area, there is the external armour, and then there is an additonal armor which is THICKER than 5mm, so it produces fuck ton of spall., but if you hit slighlty under that , or over, you do almost no damage. After i told you this, you know where to shoot, avoid areas with thin internal armour. When i tell people i have no problems with russian tanks they just call me a russia shill lmao
Yeah tbh the vast majority of the WT community is retarded, they would rather have “ I shoot the Russian tank anywhere and the turret flies off like in those Ukraine videos” then and actual tan’ that fights back.
Justin about the spalling on the bmp3, it has a fuel tank in the front that eats every dart, even dm53. Check in protection analysis, if you shoot direct front the dart's spalling will be eaten and it will kill the driver and maybe the engine.
I gave up on this not long after it came out, The TURMS was 9.7 at the time getting better ammo, thermals and ERA. Always felt I was being uptired to 10.0 aswell might give it a go again now that some BR changes were made.
hey justin, with the recent BR change i think its now worth doing a revisit on the base ztz96, it can pen everything (except t72b unless you aim for weakspot), war better turret rotation speed and 10km reverse, and its been maybe 3 years since your last video
7:19 you can see the red arrow on the left side of the screen. thats what the awarness skill does in RB. its not useless at all. saved me many many times
Do you wanna make a video on the Class 3P? Man the thing is so good. Feels like they are so rare that people don't know how to kill it, I legit won a 5v1 in mine and got hit like 12 times without dying like 1 hour ago.
Bro germany Bearley have anything good between 8.0-9.0 3 good tanks and nerfed to ground cas. Plus neither did the fins or top tier Russia but hey people cried it for them
@@felipeds3021 You don't need a stabilizer to hit a target, and their rounds are good enough to not just pen put to spall and their mobility is good enough that they don't need armor.
I think the QN is aalright, if we had bigger maps (bring back red desert!) I think we could make better use of the “SPIKEs” the commander sight is amazing though.
I always scout in my light tanks but it seems like its not enough points given to the person that scouted the enemy when a teammate kills them. Also, the drones wish they actually scouted the enemy and not just marked a spot where they were because when they are moving it's almost pointless because, by the time you get back into and start moving in your light tank, the enemy is already way away from the mark you put showing they are or were there. But if you're a light tank then drones should do the same thing as if you scouted from your tank.
Maybe i should grind this thing for my 9.3 line up! But since br changes top tier is horrible, today i got uptiered against 11.7 with my 10.7 line up we stood no chance😢
Germany should not get Russian tanks. I say this because Germany is already a formidable country in its higher tier lineups and further bolstering them with some of the best tanks in their br is only going to create problems and especially add to their already horrendous br problems.
@@daskollektiv4593 True, but Sweden has a few great 2nd line tanks but only at the highest of BRs, whereas Germany has good support vehicles throughout the tree.
@@JustinPlaysTV i did. it is a good video and shows pretty much the potential of the tank and the way it performs. The title just doesn't fit as its nowhere nere outstanding. its an average tank on a balanced br
3BM22 since it's the "best" APFSDS of torpedo shape for the 125mm gun. You should always look for the best penetration value at 60°, not at 0° (which is relative to a flat armor plate).
Depends on your needs. I use 3BM15 for the higher velocity and being the dirty camper I am my targets are the flat armor plates so the 60 angle isn't required.
The M model had simplified turret armor with less coverage than the native T-72A I don't think it makes a difference in game outside of the module viewer tho
Toilet paper... Like how most people who buy their way to top tier with the T-72 Turms with no line up or idea on how to play top tier let alone that vehicle... Addmittedly I did buy the T-72 Turms when it was on sale but have yet to play it because I don't have a line up to go with it yet.
Shame that the PUMA is 9.7 now, its not even that OP as people make it out to be. At least it could get the choosable higher RoF and even the Spike ATGM, i mean it can only carry 2 of those ATGMs
How manny try´s did you need to do to get this manny downtiers, i mean i usually get about 80-95% out of 100 matches as uptiers, so the fact you can show 2+ downtiers up in this video, means you either played a LOT to get the photage, OR get unresnably lucky. Also 8-9 range is rough br whise, a lot of those sub 9.0 tanks dosnt get thermal or laser rangefinders, so its a lot easyer on downtiers vs those guys imo. So a T72M1 in downtiers has a lot of advantages, esp when most of the 8.7-8.3(8.0) tanks needs to aim relatively well for presice pens on your front, while u can autopen them almost anywhere with 400+ mm pen rounds.
Not necessarily, comments help the algorithm by showing that the video has plenty of engagement, thus expanding its reach. As do the likes. More views means more ad revenue in the long run xP
@@JustinPlaysTV Got ya and that's what I thought but I for sure hit that like button every time from the jump. Thanks for the answer so quick Good looks cause I always wondered that but I always try to get some words in. Also good work and you are doing a good job honestly make good videos that people can watch to the end. You actually answered while I am watching the video 😄
T72's except bwm nad b 1989 model are tottaly shit in game. There are so many speedy wehicles nowdays and it struggle a lot against IVF's which make a garbage from you after 2 seconds. Good mobility, fast reload, good gun handling and turret traverse are the crucial aspects of meta and these ones are exaclly what this tanks lacks of.
Mark for squadmates and only visible to you and the player in your squad with green nickname. Bind it to any key in controls->common "Set target for squad".
not gonna lie tha new br change will fix nothing at all it makes wehicles even more fucked up also puma at 9.7 trashhhhhhhh i rather play with bmp2m or bradlee puma just missing armor and for some reasin even BMP2m can kill it in one shoot front the front withc seems a bit off also after last 2 updates puma lost LOW side armor is there but its not modeles before you can see it in xray now you see only fuel tanks before there was reactivearmor now there si air maybe bug again but all the time im getting fucked thrue there
@@oranmcdougall2650 yeah but why even have a favourite nation when you can have everything in one. I think it's just dumb. But I respect the ones that dont.
@@togamain4137 buy it takes away the uniqe about nations. Mind aswell have all tanks in one nation. Yeah I know alot about east/West conflicts. But still sweden NEVER built a t80uk or use one in armies. Germans dont use and have never used a t72. So realism and realism. Very questionable
germany is the most op broken garbage in the game, it's war thunder easy mode. stabilizers for everything decent armor, fast reloads under 10 seconds, excellent gun depression, germany is the most op trash is the game.
@@atvkid0805 You clearly havent played german tanks lol Also no I dont cope I suffer as I play USA and USSR too along side Germany Keep crying for your skill issue
I absolutely love the early T-72' look. Such a beautiful machine.
The T-72M indeed had worse coverage on the turret armor than on the Russian T-72A because that was cheaper to produce.
In game tho it's only visually different since the actual armor protection is volumetric and not affected by the Xray module.
It's an M1, not an M. There's a big difference.
The T-72M was know as Ural which have just a monolithic steel turret, then the M1 (or Ural-1) introduced the same filler used later on the A model (the quartz turret), with many original Ural upgraded to both version Ural-1 and T-72A (mod.1979).
I only want the T-55AM-2B and then that's enough for NVA tanks
Im curious if they'll add the BRDM's in aswell, I mean the East German block did have and use them actively
I want the M55-s but im cool with any t-55 variant lol.
@@nola211 No it's "Nationale Volksarmee" ist the military of eastern germany
I want the T-54AMZ, since it was a East German varient only used by East Germany
I strongly agree with you on that.. Germany 8.3-8.7 doesn't have much to offer in terms of medium tanks and its should've been added long long time ago.
That turret armor in the x-ray is simply bugged. T-72M1 has the same level of protection as Soviet T-72A.
The next one should be the T-54AMZ. It is a variant which is natively GDR, so it would really be fun.
Dude you killed it. That initial streak in the dark was wild. And I like when you play the map knowledge maps because it helps me find better ways to play so I can actually aid my team and not just aid the enemy
Gaijins way of balancing, never nerf RU tanks, just give every nation RU vehicles 😂
kinda like ubisoft. just give every gun a lot of recoil
T72M1 is garbage
There's a DDR film called 'Offiziere' which has some great tank sequences with T-55s and T-72s, its a super cool watch.
It was a fine experience with the Finnish one, for being armed just with the 3BM22.
It lacks some pen value but the spall output is great even facing other Soviet/Russian tanks (one tapping TURMS was so fun)
2:36 what in the kentucky fried fuck is happening there?! 💀💀
bros chooosing skins 💀💀
hey justin!:) your vids always make my day whenever I see them come up on my recommended, thanks and keep doing what you're doing:)
2:52 , the reason you might be surviving more in t80s, is because they use the vertical loading system, as in war thunder, the entire loading system is covered in armour (which is not visible in xray) and that is what is "preventing" majority of the spalling on russian tanks ( this is why when you shoot the side turret, it does actually spall a lot), while on the t72s and t90s, the loading system is down low, which is also protected by the armor around the carousel, but by that fact, there is no armor in middle of the tank, which means when you shood middle side on these tanks, like t72 and t90, they spall far more, normally.
I think there is little russian bias (maybe slight changes needed for some russian tanks) but it mostly comes down to the damage model, which even some non russian/chinese tanks have.
According to the WT WIKI, armor thinner than 5mm doesnt spall. If you go into nvidia ansel and do free view in the hangar, and go inside the tank while in armor view, you can see there is internal armour, which is light blue (very thin), so its presumably under 5mm.
There are actually multiple non russian/chinese tanks with internal armour thinner than 5mm and it also doesnt produce spall, but only CONSUMES spall. This is why russian tanks feel so strong.
This is why the merkava sometimes spalls a ton, when you shoot the turret ring area, there is the external armour, and then there is an additonal armor which is THICKER than 5mm, so it produces fuck ton of spall., but if you hit slighlty under that , or over, you do almost no damage.
After i told you this, you know where to shoot, avoid areas with thin internal armour. When i tell people i have no problems with russian tanks they just call me a russia shill lmao
Yeah tbh the vast majority of the WT community is retarded, they would rather have “ I shoot the Russian tank anywhere and the turret flies off like in those Ukraine videos” then and actual tan’ that fights back.
i really like your kind of videos, that you don't clip direct after a kill and does that over and over, keep it up man :)
Justin about the spalling on the bmp3, it has a fuel tank in the front that eats every dart, even dm53. Check in protection analysis, if you shoot direct front the dart's spalling will be eaten and it will kill the driver and maybe the engine.
Oh I'm aware, it's just frustrating as all hell..
Bro, Fuel is liquid, the spalling mostly get stuck inside the fuel tank itself
Brother keep the content comming its awesome!
thanks for making the vid justin i asked on on stream at the beginning and you listened 🙏
I gave up on this not long after it came out, The TURMS was 9.7 at the time getting better ammo, thermals and ERA. Always felt I was being uptired to 10.0 aswell might give it a go again now that some BR changes were made.
Oh wow, I didn’t expect to see myself in the video, Great video justin!!
hey justin, with the recent BR change i think its now worth doing a revisit on the base ztz96, it can pen everything (except t72b unless you aim for weakspot), war better turret rotation speed and 10km reverse, and its been maybe 3 years since your last video
When that shell spalls it does it tremendous amounts
7:19 you can see the red arrow on the left side of the screen.
thats what the awarness skill does in RB. its not useless at all. saved me many many times
i just run 125mm HE for the stock grind, usually more reliable for me than attempting to use HEAT
In America you protect fuel tanks. In Soviet Russia fuel tank protects you.
no sure when this video was recorded but with the radkampwagon being lowered to 9.3 it would add another flavor to the 9.3 german lineup
2:38 Praga truck: MOoom look, I got tracks too !
im making a polish lineup and i feel like the german bmp and t72 plus the mig29 will do it
It would as most of the vehicles for East Germany were made in Poland and the Czech Republic.
Do you wanna make a video on the Class 3P? Man the thing is so good. Feels like they are so rare that people don't know how to kill it, I legit won a 5v1 in mine and got hit like 12 times without dying like 1 hour ago.
😭
uuu yeah, that thing is a massive void if you bring little ammo
I think that germany doesn't need any more vehicles from 7.3 to 8.7, they have in my opinion the strongest lineup
Bro germany Bearley have anything good between 8.0-9.0 3 good tanks and nerfed to ground cas. Plus neither did the fins or top tier Russia but hey people cried it for them
@@Cheesycat0 Germany has no stabilized vehicle at 8.3 besides the Premium Turm 3 [and the Gepard]
China's 8.7 is stronger.
@@Cheesycat0 You are saying that Leos and DF-105s, Turm IIIs, gepards, tams are not good?
@@felipeds3021 You don't need a stabilizer to hit a target, and their rounds are good enough to not just pen put to spall and their mobility is good enough that they don't need armor.
When you ask why someone uses inferior shells on tanks, the answer is always stock grind
It was a T-80B with no Kontakt-1 ERA so he was definitely stock.
"He's just floating there.... MENACINGLY"
I don't play Germany as much as I used to but I was very happy to see it added non the less
9.3 Germans are my favorite high tier BR right now. Such a good lineup.
I think the QN is aalright, if we had bigger maps (bring back red desert!) I think we could make better use of the “SPIKEs” the commander sight is amazing though.
Just unlocked the beauty today. I like it and it's great at 9.3
Vegas? I can agree, its hell on earth (I live there too!) Also, as an avid hockey fan, Go Knights Go!
"I don't intend to live long enough to use all these rounds"
Proceeds to run the table.
I went in with the expectation of dying.. alot.. xP
@@JustinPlaysTV I enjoy the hell out of you, and your content.
Just you, and Turney. That's it.
I always scout in my light tanks but it seems like its not enough points given to the person that scouted the enemy when a teammate kills them.
Also, the drones wish they actually scouted the enemy and not just marked a spot where they were because when they are moving it's almost pointless because, by the time you get back into and start moving in your light tank, the enemy is already way away from the mark you put showing they are or were there. But if you're a light tank then drones should do the same thing as if you scouted from your tank.
Great tank
Maybe i should grind this thing for my 9.3 line up! But since br changes top tier is horrible, today i got uptiered against 11.7 with my 10.7 line up we stood no chance😢
Man, the br changes are one of the most awaited in years. Now it's great
Germany should not get Russian tanks. I say this because Germany is already a formidable country in its higher tier lineups and further bolstering them with some of the best tanks in their br is only going to create problems and especially add to their already horrendous br problems.
4:10 strv 122, visible anger
Germany is already OP with best support vehicles and best MBTs.
not the best support vehicles, second best but definitely best MBT's
@@daskollektiv4593 what other nation has best support vehicles?
@@harryshuman9637 sweden
@@daskollektiv4593 True, but Sweden has a few great 2nd line tanks but only at the highest of BRs, whereas Germany has good support vehicles throughout the tree.
@@harryshuman9637 true
Love your content justin!
Is No one going to question that at 2:38 the praga is central pivoting??
last thing any nation needs in copy paste, especially a major nation and especially germany
I like your vids every day I'm just waiting for a new video to release and there good video's so keep up the great work
Nice Video, as always
2:37 ignore the czechoslovak praga spaa neutral steering
puts german bias in title, proceeds to say the T72 is not as good as it wouldve been few years ago
You clearly did not watch the video, well done!
@@JustinPlaysTV i did. it is a good video and shows pretty much the potential of the tank and the way it performs. The title just doesn't fit as its nowhere nere outstanding. its an average tank on a balanced br
Do a chadly video on the Tow -2A as well as a dardo video
what is better? 3BM15 or 3BM22?
I use 3BM15 on my T-64A and don't have the T-72A yet
3BM22 since it's the "best" APFSDS of torpedo shape for the 125mm gun.
You should always look for the best penetration value at 60°, not at 0° (which is relative to a flat armor plate).
Depends on your needs. I use 3BM15 for the higher velocity and being the dirty camper I am my targets are the flat armor plates so the 60 angle isn't required.
Bruh do night vision devices actually help with something? I only used gen 2, but it is better to just use natural light
The parts require much more research xps because T-72M1/DDR is the end of that tech tree line…… Even more than some Tier 7 MBTs
The radkampfwagen replaced the puma at 9.3
Play the ItPsV 90 pls
No reactive armor, what a shock. LoL
Is it just me or did they mess up when they did the rounds for this thing...? the 15 has more pen than the 22.
ive been asking for this and the german BMP2 although i was asking them to be foldered instead of independent
Is it just me, or is the bitrate on this video lesser than usual? Still great video tho! :)
Wish they add the T-54M in Russian tech tree as an event vehicle, my country Vietnam has them T-54 modernized up with era and upgrade vision system
The M model had simplified turret armor with less coverage than the native T-72A
I don't think it makes a difference in game outside of the module viewer tho
Toilet paper...
Like how most people who buy their way to top tier with the T-72 Turms with no line up or idea on how to play top tier let alone that vehicle...
Addmittedly I did buy the T-72 Turms when it was on sale but have yet to play it because I don't have a line up to go with it yet.
Marder 2.
The need to take back that t72 and give us the Marder 2.
I'm not even gonna be grinding for it.
RADKAMPFWAGEN IS 9.3 NOW!!
I realy like you YT streams
Justin quick question what GDR vehicles would you like to see next?
Nice content
Make the Blitzkrieg of the German Army or introduction for there Tank Development
Shame that the PUMA is 9.7 now, its not even that OP as people make it out to be. At least it could get the choosable higher RoF and even the Spike ATGM, i mean it can only carry 2 of those ATGMs
How manny try´s did you need to do to get this manny downtiers, i mean i usually get about 80-95% out of 100 matches as uptiers, so the fact you can show 2+ downtiers up in this video, means you either played a LOT to get the photage, OR get unresnably lucky. Also 8-9 range is rough br whise, a lot of those sub 9.0 tanks dosnt get thermal or laser rangefinders, so its a lot easyer on downtiers vs those guys imo. So a T72M1 in downtiers has a lot of advantages, esp when most of the 8.7-8.3(8.0) tanks needs to aim relatively well for presice pens on your front, while u can autopen them almost anywhere with 400+ mm pen rounds.
About 7 games in total, I was just really lucky I guess o.o
Great.
I’ve experienced SO much Russian bias with my TURMS I don’t have to think and I get 5+ kills while blindly rushing poor enemies
Sure thing Logan
Should I buy the premium L44 Leo 1 or the Leo 2 123? I'm currently researching the leo a1a1
l44 much better at br
@JustinPlays I have a question, do you get more $ or points or however YT works, if there is a certain amount of comments on a video?
Not necessarily, comments help the algorithm by showing that the video has plenty of engagement, thus expanding its reach. As do the likes.
More views means more ad revenue in the long run xP
@@JustinPlaysTV Got ya and that's what I thought but I for sure hit that like button every time from the jump. Thanks for the answer so quick Good looks cause I always wondered that but I always try to get some words in. Also good work and you are doing a good job honestly make good videos that people can watch to the end. You actually answered while I am watching the video 😄
T72's except bwm nad b 1989 model are tottaly shit in game. There are so many speedy wehicles nowdays and it struggle a lot against IVF's which make a garbage from you after 2 seconds. Good mobility, fast reload, good gun handling and turret traverse are the crucial aspects of meta and these ones are exaclly what this tanks lacks of.
Turms is shit too and his prime Has gone few uploads ago
T72a should be dropped at 9.0 imo
T72B 1989 sucks compared to the T-80B and T-72M2 Moderna. Its worse than the T-72B at its BR.
I rather play the C2A1, fits my playstile more
hello ...... nice video
wish gaijin would add some better tanks at 5.7 for u.s. none of the of the tanks at that br have enough armor to defend against a tiger or is-2
Saw this while I was playing 5.7 USA, I agree.
how do you spot people by looking at them without using the map to mark their location?
Mark for squadmates and only visible to you and the player in your squad with green nickname. Bind it to any key in controls->common "Set target for squad".
Can you revisit the T-90A since it can face a lot of downtiers?
I just got the t-90, ever since the new br changes it’s only been full up tiers
Hey justin could you play w the Bo-105? Id like to buy it but im not sure😗
wallajalla
The M1 was actually as good as the A, you’re thinking of the base M that was garbage.
reverses so fricken slow
Why can't gaijn add Indian tech tree
not gonna lie tha new br change will fix nothing at all it makes wehicles even more fucked up also puma at 9.7 trashhhhhhhh i rather play with bmp2m or bradlee puma just missing armor and for some reasin even BMP2m can kill it in one shoot front the front withc seems a bit off also after last 2 updates puma lost LOW side armor is there but its not modeles before you can see it in xray now you see only fuel tanks before there was reactivearmor now there si air maybe bug again but all the time im getting fucked thrue there
Hi
Could just send all vehicles too every nation. Germany didnt build the t72. Why russian tanks in german tree. Could have panthers in russian tree then
There is a Panther in the Russian tree...
@@oranmcdougall2650 yeah but why even have a favourite nation when you can have everything in one. I think it's just dumb. But I respect the ones that dont.
It's for realism. You don't know the East vs West situation from Cold war?
@@togamain4137 buy it takes away the uniqe about nations. Mind aswell have all tanks in one nation. Yeah I know alot about east/West conflicts. But still sweden NEVER built a t80uk or use one in armies. Germans dont use and have never used a t72. So realism and realism. Very questionable
germany is the most op broken garbage in the game, it's war thunder easy mode. stabilizers for everything decent armor, fast reloads under 10 seconds, excellent gun depression, germany is the most op trash is the game.
Keep crying skill issue guy!
@@soumyadeepchoudhury3201 oh u went to the "skill issue" did ya, that's why you have to cope playing the most busted op nation in the game
@@atvkid0805 You clearly havent played german tanks lol
Also no I dont cope I suffer as I play USA and USSR too along side Germany
Keep crying for your skill issue
@@soumyadeepchoudhury3201 I have played German tanks and have excellent success with them because they are busted op and require 0 skill
hi
copy paste is copy paste
can russia get a leopard now please?
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Bro i want a new leopard not some rusty ass russian tanks that su$k
wow, 6 minutes ago
VRCC PLS DAY 20
Dude, I already have a video on it and it does not need a revisit..
@@JustinPlaysTV ok ill take my time, right time will come, lets say day 365?? xd
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