JS "Bullseye" Surfboard Review by Noel Salas Ep. 96
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
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In this episode I put Occy’s new model called the “Bullseye” by JS Surfboards through the paces in 1-6’ surf.
The board testing started on a stock 5’5” x 18 7/8 x 2 ¼ PU/Poly (polyurethane foam / polyester resin) with 25.1 liters. The stock board dimensions fit me good, but the liters are on the low side of my range for a PU/Poly.
The PU/Poly felt good in 3-6’ surf but it struggled to go fast from the take off in 1-2’ surf with a Thruster set up. As the waves got smaller (chest high and below) I began testing different fin setups to give it the speed I expect from a small wave performance board.
After multiple days of board testing in 1-2’ surf I found that riding the Bullseye as Quad or Twin + Trailer offered the most speed and release in chest high and under surf.
After a week or so of testing the PU/Poly I asked JS for the same stock board in their Hyfi construction to get a little more speed and pop in smaller waves. The EPS Hyfi construction felt more alive under foot and it offered the projection I was hoping for in the smaller surf.
I highly recommend the Bullseye for intermediate - pro level surfers as a Daily Driver. This model performs best in 3-6’ surf. If you’re looking for the Bullseye to be your go-to board in 1-5’ surf, then I recommend it in the Hyfi construction as a Quad.
My Height - 5’9”
My Weight - 160 lb or 72.57 kg
Suggested Fins and fin Setup:
Futures - (Quads) Legacy P8 or HS1 Side fins with HS Quad Rears
FCSII - (Quad) Reactor (Large side fins) w/ Reactor Medium Quad Rears
Twin + Trailer:
AMT (Al Merrick Twin + Trailer) - Фільми й анімація
It’s cool that you called out the inferior foam makers. I have been saying for years that JS’s foam is superior. JS boards last me 3x longer then Lost boards do. Another solid review. Thanks
Aaron B funny because I’ve had the exact opposite experience. But I haven’t had a NSW for about 5-6 years
Yup right on the mark. Most of the US foam is toilet paper compared to what JS is using.
I broke my js today. My lost is fine. I disagree.
Lol. I would say the opposite. Js is the te boards I go through the most. Love them but they break easily. I’ve broken 3 the last 2 1/2 years
No Salads, LOL, Great review, really liked how you went into depth on the tail design, and it's effects on your surfing. That was really helpful! Thankyou, have a wonderful New Year Noel!
Yes finally you've reviewed the model of my all time favourite surfer. Thank you so much. Amazing review as always.
Metal Bear Occy’s mental!!! Cheers
That's crazy. I used to work at Clark Foam back in the early 2000's and we'd occasionally drop off blanks at T&C because a few of their shapers refused to shape with Buford blanks because they'd pressure dent super easy and didn't like that they used plywood stringers and now they're making super solid blanks. Glad to hear they stepped up their game. I was thinking of getting this in epoxy but now I'm not sure because I plan on using the board in head high+ waves and I prefer the feel of a PU in bigger waves.
A1 Review!! 2-3hrs surfing everyday!!? Living the dream Noel!
Great review. Thought my 6'2" was a dog of a board (used for grovel crap only), surfed it as a quad this weekend...wow what a difference. Looking forward to some solid waves to try as a thruster, looks like a good Indo option also. Thanks Noel, would not have tried it as a quad without your review. 10/10
andrew taylor Yewww!! Thanks for posting. Your experience will help others too
Nice one Noel, saving for the Raging Bull model at present.
Great job champ.
this is realy big guys board..the round tail look good..cheers.
Great review as always!! Those boards looked pretty clunky.
Loved the fin break down.
Great review, Noel (as usual, ha-ha)! I always had the same concern - how to get more speed (I.e. reduce drag), while maintaining enough control in weaker waves. What changed my life (not sure if you ever tried or even considered it) was asymmetrical fins! The board itself doesn’t have to be asym (I actually found it a total waste of money) - just take your favorite quad and put a twin fin in a toe side box, while keeping your favorite side fin and rear quad in the heel side boxes. This offers all the speed of a twin, combined with control of a quad. after I seemed to have exhausted all possible combinations of quads and twin+1’s, I saw a review on Disasym by The Surfboard Guide and decided to try this new fin setup (I wasn’t totally sold on the asym design, but trying the fin setup alone wouldn’t cost me anything, so I went for it). On my very first wave, after few turns I was like “I need bigger fins!” And this after struggling with either too much drag or tail sliding out with any other fin combos. Bigger fins = more drive and snappier turns! Not sure how this would work on bigger waves, but it’s definitely been a lifesaver for me in weak Gulf Coast surf.
Vladimir Zhibak Sick... I was messing with asymmetrical fin set ups too. Not as extreme as the Twin on the Toe Side and on heel side but messing with different fin templates as a Thruster setup. Example... AM2 on my toe side, Neutral center fin, Pivot fin on my heel side. This setup made for good drive off my toe side and a quick pivot on my heel side. To loosen it up I can use a medium center fin and keep the large sides to have max drive and hold.
It’s worth a try, Noel. After I tried it, the biggest question I had was “why didn’t I try it earlier “ ))
Thanks for the review! I got this board in a stock 6'2" when they first hit the racks. (I'm 215-220lbs plus a 4/3). PU construction, and still only the slightest dents in the deck, mainly from my back foot. Very solid! I'm surprised how much foam is packed into the board, since the nose and rails are tapered much more when comparing to my Psycho Killer, which is my daily driver. Paddles really well, and rides like a much smaller board. Definitely an advanced-intermediate to advanced board, and probably one of the better "off the rack" big guy HP shortboards I've come across. Works great as a thruster with the large JS fins. Usually the JS fins are too stiff for any of my other boards, but they work with this one. I personally did not like it as a quad, but to each their own. Definitely comes alive in chest high+ punchy surf.
Chris K Excellent post thanks for the detail
Great review noel, as always
could you please do a review on the chilli "Volume 2" it looks like a sick daily driver!!
Luke Mitchell Trying to get Chili’s on the show.
Great review noel, totally agree with js having great foam in their pu's, I've got 2 and they still look great after a year of surfing, can't say the same about the hyfi tho, had a blakbox 2 that ended up with heavy foot well impressions after only a handful of surfs, however my bro had a blakbox 2 in hyfi and his still looks new after a year of surfing it as a daily driver, so might be just an inconsistency in their Thailand factory. . . 🤔
J Boy Surf Maybe... or maybe your just hard on boards like me??? A few of my friends can ride a board for a couple months and have extremely light pressure dents on their PU or EPS.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 yeh maybe . . . I've got 4 other eps boards tho and they seem to be holding up sweet, (2 spineteks 1 helium and one supbrand eps)
J Boy Surf Sounds like your HYFI might be soft. Bummer... sorry bro that sucks.
Another solid review mate. I 've been riding this board for the last 4 months or so. Started with the PU. I liked it so much, I then got the hifi. Have been really happy with it as a thruster. Started with Large FCS AMs and then tried the Large FCS KAs. I like them both, but my current favourite combo is the hifi and the FCS KAs - offers good hold and drive on the wave face, but also surprisingly good release in turns. Yep, agree that the hifi is more lively and a bit more nimble - may be in part because it is a lot lighter. Tried a JS Monstabox in hifi a while back and didn't like it.It felt a bit stiff to me. But, the Bullseye in hifi doesn't feel stiff. It has become my 'go to' board. It is a great 'daily driver' for the Sydney Northern Beaches, where I live.
Roger Pye Epic post... thank you! This will help others.
Hey Roger, can I ask what your weight/ height is to be using those fins? Cheers
Spotty One I’m 5’9” 68-69kg. I’m on the 5’9”(31-ish L) Bullseye & I’m 57.
@@rogerpye1865 thanks mate. I'm running the Large JS fins (FCS2) and find them a little bit tracky. I'll give the KA's a go.
Good stuff Noel... Did you happen to weigh that strong P.U. board... Good to hear they are strong, just wondering if the blank is heavier... Thanks 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
js board foam is not the only hidden surprise. their resin doesnt yellow or fade too much. i have boards over a year or so old and lots of sessions and the boards look almost new.
So sick… thanks for posting that
Agree i had one for years and still looked whiter then a 6 month old pu i had
Hi Noel, how's things?
Currently looking at JS bullseye hyfi or CI neckbeard 2 spinetek. What would you recommend more for 1-5ft beach breaks? What would be more durable?
Keep up the great reviews,
Cheers, Paul
Great show! I recently started watching the videos and they are very helpful, great job! Have you heard about the blade by Rusty? I live in south California too and it looks a great board for small-mediums waves. Any plan about making a review for that board? cheers!
philippe The folks at Rusty aren’t keen to send boards in for review. Sorry... hopefully in the future they will be
Thanks for another great and fun review Noel. Any chance you will review the JS Psycho Nitro soon? I purchased more then few boards after your reviews 🤦🏻♂️ 👍.
My long time main challenge is finding my small / mushy waves performance board. When the waves are at their minimum It seems like surfboards should be and provide their maximum..., cheers.
Yaniv Zimmerman I agree... the smallest Stock Psycho Nitro is 27+ liters. A little big for me... I tried to order a custom but nothing back from the folks at JS yet. Hang tight... I’m trying to get a couple. Cheers
Surf n Show Reviews It’s most appreciated Noel and 100% agreed regarding the volume. I purchased the Pyzel Ghost, Pyzel Gremlin and Slater Cymatic yet at much more volume that I need... (Finally learned from your inputs to keep even groveler at the same anchor volume as our daily driver!). Replaced only the Cymatic. I heard great feedbacks regarding the Psycho Nitro. Never miss a review. Best!
I've got a 5'7" Psycho Nitro in HyFi and love it. Great board. I usually prefer all my boards in PU but I think the HF construction for the PN is worth it on a hybrid groveler. The extra lift really helps when the waves are mushy. It goes great in 1-3ft and still holds really well up to overhead. For a small-wave board the PN has a very nice touch of performance-board in the back half of the shape. Def recommend.
great review. Noel Rips too.
Your reviews are awesome mate. How’s the Bullseye go compared to the firewire mashup?
Always appreciate such in depth reviews on these boards. It really helps when trying to make a decision on narrowing board choices. I am new to the JS brand but have been eyeing them for a bit. Been on the Firewire train. If you had to choose between the Bullseye or the Blak Box 3 which would you go with?
Dane Quitevis For what size waves?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Roughly looking at the 1-5/6ft range? For reference I am surfing in Hawaii around the Ala Moana area and it is roughly around those sizes. Am currently looking for a good kind of daily driver board. It seems my quiver is either grovelers for weak waves or hpsb for when the waves turn on like in North Shore. Appreciate your response and time. Mahalo!
Dane Quitevis Bullseye
i recently had a great lower entry rocker + round tail combo in a dhd dx1 it felt exactly as you described this board when you transition from 2ft surf to 4ft surf it really gets awesome.
side note: i once had a magic board which was massive at 6'3' and it worked in everything, my 'standard' shortboard size is around 5'11'. can't seem to find any board that has a similar width, these days everything is so wide.
bring back the pointy noses!
Never throw out magic boards even when they are done, take them to you local shaper and get a new board based on the old one
Hi Noel. I was riding this board as a thruster, AM Large. Just watched your video and ordered a quad reactor L + Mid. Let’s see how it goes. I was thinking about selling this board, but I will try as a quad first. Thanks for your videos.
andre gomes Sounds good... try a Twin + Trailer too if you have a set.
Surf n Show Reviews no I don’t, just a fc2 AM.
As a twin, I have a fc2 MR twin. I got this one for my sharpeye modern 2 following your recommendation as well.
andre gomes Try the MR’s in the Bullseye
Surf n Show Reviews will do!
Hi, love the show big fan for sure. I have a question for you I’m a heavier guy and ride smaller surf in the east for the most part when not traveling. All my step ups and better wave boards are PU poly, but My everyday driver is a 6’0” lost diamond carbon wrap Uber XL . I’m ordering a Bullseye today and I’m trying to decide between PU poly and HIFI it will be my second everyday driver for beach break and small barrels. I know you’ve rode both, so curious what construction type would you suggest for me... Thanks
Trent Alexander If you like EPS on your Daily Drivers then go HYFI
Hi Mate,
What do you believe is better for an all round board.
The bullseye or the Hypto Kyrpto?
The two shapes are very similar
Cheers
Great review as usual others just aren't doing it half as well as you and there sub par surfers like myself haha..so in depth "these guys at Buford are doin it right" no one goes that in depth.dont forget to tell people to hit the bell notifications for new upload content, I heard from other youtubers it might increase the way they suggest your channel to others in the algorithm...anyway why dont you drop a video just of you surfing love your style.. Just a suggestion. Chee!!🤜🤛🤙🏄🏻♂️
surfer soldier for Christ Cheers for the kind words!! I will check out the bell suggestion too thanks.
Great review! Was wondering on your opinion of the durability of js's hyfi vs their regular pu? Which holds up better? Thanks a lot!
Nathan McFarland The HYFY will hood its pop longer but the PU will pressure dent less
Great info!! Thx
Hey Noel another awesome review man, thanks to bring such a good information here.. I have a question for u. I ride 6.4 og flyer 38.2L and I want to get bullseye for my daily surf. What size and volume do you recommend? I’m 1.88m and 97kg. Thanks legend
If your OG feels good at 38.2L then go similar volume on your Bullseye
Hi Noel, love your reviews and your surf. YOU ARE RIPPING!! Can you share with us what kind of traning/ fisic prepartion do you do for keeping on ripping those waves like you do? Thanks
João Da Anunciação Nunes Cheers for the kind words. At 47 years old it’s really about eating healthy and stretching. I try to surf 5 days a week and that helps me burning the calories. No other real training... it’s all about my diet and going surfing.
Can you test js pony flying 6'0
Noel Quick question.! If you don’t see this I’ll just ask next post cuz this is just a little late but I’m 5’9 135 lbs using a 5’7 25L. I’m using M 5.5 balanced fins. I’m wondering in softer surf 2-3ft I’m not getting enough pop and spring and balance from these fins and should I spend money on larger fins and what fin should I get flex wise? Or should I just be using a S sized fins and I’m just not strong enough to flex them. Even tho it feels like I’m pushing too hard. It’s kinda sliding out on the M fins but it just doesn’t feel like I’m getting enough spring. Lmk
Poor Alex I say try the AM1 Blackstix... good hold, extra pop, and loose
Hey Noel, Did it feel a bit heavy due to the glass job/foam? It could be resistant, but heavier than the other PU brands? Did you feel any stiffness with the carbon stringer? Last question, Do you recommend 2+1 on a narrow tail shape too, or does it excel better with a wider tail?
Alonso Velarde This PU/Poly was not heavy at all and it was not stiff either. Most of my Stock PU/Poly boards weigh roughly 5.5lb and this one weighs roughly the same.
I have been testing the AMT Twin + Trailer on Other Daily Driver type boards in 1-3’ gutless surf and they go good in some of those too. The side fins are super upright so lots of pivot and drive due to the large base.
Excellent, huge thanks!
Hi Noel I would like to see you go up from your your normal volumen 26 L to a 27 L in any of your preferer board that you normally use a trestle. because in your review your board always are between 25 and 26 L
Hernan Mota Check out the Hayden Shapes Miscellaneous review. I rode a stock board that was 27+ liters and EPS..... You can also watch the Roberts Star Chip Surfboard review... I got a couple boards on the bigger side and the look slow delayed.
Not sure why you want to see me surf on a boards that are to big for me? I also don’t want to waste my time testing boards that are to big.... just saying
Hey Noel, I have the aipa fish 2+1 set up with Akila’s fins and a tiny trailer fin. I have noticed that on some bottom turns the board will slide out from under me. I love this board, but I am curious if you have another fin set up you might recommend?
nicholas tovar First try a little bigger Trailing fin. It will give you more pivot and hold.
Thanks Noel 🤙🏽
Hi Noel. Awesome review once again. In a nutshell, how do squash tail and round tails differ from each other? And, what makes a good paddling board in terms of volume and width disposition in the board? Thanks, keep up the awesome videos
Not a total expert but here is what I know. A round tail will make your turns a bit wider eith morr circular motions, so you can make eider cutbacks or whatever. A squash is in between of a swallow and round, so it can break the line and pivot more, but still get round curves. A good paddling board is when the wide point is in front of the board, so you have more volume on the chest area. Hope I explained well.
@@lucapeluffo723 thanks
yann dabadie Just add to those good comments.... a Squash Tail also offers a bit more release, and it enables you to pivot faster.
yann dabadie On paddling... low rocker boards with the wide point front from center will often add more foam under the chest. The low rocker is key in small gutless surf.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 alright, thank you so much. And one more thing, what are the benefits of high rocker? Thanks
Your riding on your Fever looks mo betta.
Hey Noel, which board did you like better out of this and the Dominator 2? Seems like a similar wave range.
Cheers
I liked the Dominator 2 better. It faster, smoother rail to rail, and it pivots faster.
Surf n Show Reviews thanks for the quick reply! Keep up the good work.
First thing I noticed that board throws lots of spray
Great review noel! Have you ridden any Gary McNeill boards?
Patrick Carter No... they look epic too. He wants us to pay for his boards and review them for free??? Our reviews are free to the shapers but we do not pay for boards. My brother and I work way to hard on the production of these reviews and we’re not about to into debt with the cost of buying a couple boards to do a review that educates our community on a shapers board. Just saying.....
I totally agree! Keep up the reviews cant wait for the next one
Which board did you prefer bullseye or psycho killer cw , thanks
Bullseye
Hello. plz, how would u compare this board to the f13 wilko? TKS
Johnny Utah F13 is more performance and I think the F13 carries more speed in 1-2’ surf. This Bullseye has more hold and it can handle 6’+ surf. The F13 will struggle in bigger surf...
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thank you
Nice review as always Noel....do you think it was lacking in get up and go speed due to it being at the lower end of your volume range? Would extra volume of helped?
Matthew Jones Yes a little... however going longer would have hurt the quickness in transition from turn to turn in the little waves.
Who have helped to go custom with extra volume at the same length?
Amazing video its help me a lot, for 2-5ft waves with the EPS version the 2+1 setup (FCS2 MR for me) would work? Hope you’ll see my comment 2y later 🤞
Absolutely… the MR’s will go excellent
@@surfnshowreviews7777 You're a king ! 🙏🙏🙏
Hello !!!
Plz, how would u compare this board to the monsta box ?
TKS
Johnny Utah The MB is faster down the line and more responsive. The Bullseye might paddle a little better but not by much. If I were try to choose between the two boards I would go Monsta Box for 3-5’ waves
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you very much
What do you reckon about monsta box for 1-5ft? I often surf 1-3ft east coast on nz but also want a board to be able to handle 3-6ft west coast New Zealand? What board would you recommend as a 1 board quiver?
Oliver Puchner The MB is ideal in 3-5’ surf... it will go ok in 2’ surf but the stock Dims are a bit long for me in a tight pocket. In 6’ surf the MB doesn’t have enough hold off the bottom or big rail turns. I think the Air17X is a sick 1 board quiver for waves that fit the 1-6’ wave range. More performance and hold... you will have to work a little harder for speed in 1-2’ surf but the performance is excellent.
Surf n Show Reviews sweet, Thank for the reply.Love your reviews!
Hi Noel, as always thanks for the great review. I have a Monstabox Round Tail and the outline seems to be very similar to the Raging Bull except for the nose that looks narrower on MonstaBox. I've never tried a quad setup on the MonstaBox and its a HYFI, watching your review made me really curious how it would perform with 4 fins.
Ardy Aryan I think it will go good! Give it at try if you have a good set of Quad Rears
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel!
Hey Noel, some great reviews so far and alot of board options out there. I was hoping you could point me in the right direction. Im looking for a two board quiver, one board for waves knee to head high and one board for head high upto double overhead. Can you recommend one or two models for each and approximate dimensions to try? Im 175cm height, 68kg, 30 years of age and same skill level as you. thanks!
Jose Ande Liters for you at your skill level is 24-25... sweet spot would be 24.5 in PU and 24 liters EPS.
Boards: 1-4’ surf NB2 , Astro POP, UD XL, Akila Winged Twin, CI Fishbeard,
HPSB 4-8’ surf: Fever, Driver, Darkside
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks noel. Do you think I should go with large or medium fins? Thinking futures.
Jose Ande Futures for sure... if you go Large and the board feels tight swap the center fin to a Medium. Or just get the new Jordy’s... they come with a smaller center fin and they have a thin tip so the release great too.
Is it ever flat in SoCal?
Been flat here in San Clemente - and doesnt look any better for the next week
Hi Noel, did you ever take the raging bull out again? What were your thoughts?
That board needs a good wave to go good. Not a good So Cal board for my area.
Aloha Noel,
How would this Hy-Fi Bullseye compare to the Spine-Tek CI Neckbeard 3 in chest - 2' overhead surf?
Thanks
The NB3 has less overall rocker so it Carrie’s more speed compared to the Bullseye.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I'm curious in trying this board with the AMT + trailer fins. How would you compare that twin setup to something like the AM2 quads?
I'm 6' @ 195lb. and heavy on my back foot.
Thanks
Pretty similar board comparison. The NB3 Carrie’s more speed and offers excellent hold. I like the NB3 way better
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel. Which one would you say is more of a performance board in punchy head high Hawaiian surf?
@@leilanikaiawelacuesta7771 About the same. I might choose the Bullseye in punchy HI surf
Did you ever get time in on the Raging Bull, Noel? I suspect it’s probably too meaty for your liking?
Waxfoot Not yet... I hope to get that review done too
Surf n Show Reviews I’m picking an as-new one up today to replace a good wave roundtail that I didn’t get on with and was curious to see you on it :)
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Having now surfed the Raging bull, I'm betting you're not releasing the Raging Bull review at all as I don't think it will suit your surfing (top down as you describe it)
Waxfoot correct. Not reviewing the Raging Bull.
Is it just me or does that board look like a Quiver Killer clone? Outline, rocker and dims look pretty similar, even the flip in the nose.
arrzfr Good question... I have never surfed or held a QK.
what for a guy like me at 6ft 1 in and 164 lbs
for got to add im 70 years old been surfing 60 years
Jody Blackwell What are you riding now in 1-5’ surf and how is it going for you? What are the Dimensions and liters that you like?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Noel i ride in thigh to waist high surf a 90 by 23.5 x 31/2 thick single fin longboard in waist to head i ride a 6-2 x 22 x 3 thick clever surfboard shaped by Jay smith of Ormond beach Florida it is a 5 fin set up FCS 2 spring flex eps core green rood epoxy systems by Halifax glassing in Florida i do not know what liters it is i forgot to mention that i am 70 years old been surfing for 69 years
Pity when you're using future's you don't give a run down in fcs
wozza77able FCS doesn’t really support our show.... these stock boards came with FCSII plugs so I did the review anyways. It’s a shame FCS doesn’t see value in what we do for the surf community.
Yeah you’ve totally missed the point
wozza77able Maybe you missed mine...
No you missed mine I’ve seen you do reviews where you have waffled on about the future fins you have used to point where my ears have bleed with BOREDOM and not once mentioned an fcs equivalent that’s my point just 30 seconds of info. And bye the way epoxies suck!
@@wozza77able you're an idiot.. Listen with understanding not with your own opinion in mind..
still waiting for the raging bull review
Not doing the Raging Bull.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 well been surfing on the raging bull for a few weeks even in some bigger surf didn't like it at all started to surf on LSD surfboards there working great
Yariv Azoulay I just got a LSD model.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I got the chlorine model with the round tail and the GTX model for bigger days I live in Byron bay we had some amazing winter loving the boards
@@surfnshowreviews7777 will you in the future?
MODEX taking over sorry 2020 2012
Doctor surf❤