Hands down the best game in the series imo. One of my favorite games of all time, played this game like a year ago for the first time, fell in love with it. A complete remake with the combat staying the same would just be incredible!
That's debatable. Ys Book 1 and 2 are tough to beat. Technically Ys 8 is years beyond. However it's not considered the best RPG of its time. Where as Ys Books 1 and 2 at its time could argue being the best RPG period. It was a mind blowing experience in the early 90s to play Ys Book 1 and 2 for the Turbo CD.
@@orlandoserrano500 Personally, Ys 1 and 2 are great games, but way down when it comes to the series, Ys 8 being a peak for the series is a commonly agreed upon notion among the fan base. Ys 1 and 2 were famous when they released as Falcom was well known at that time, but after that they disappeared from the western market for a time being, Ys 8 brought back the series in an amazing way.
I agree. This game took me completely by surprise. I love this series so calling it the best does not mean the other games suck, just that this game was special and stands out above the rest. For me it had the best overall story arc and cast of characters in the series and the combat was so fun. Not only is this game best in the series for me, its in my top ten JRPGs of all time.
@@orlandoserrano500 I love this whole series, but I agree with OP. VIII is easily the best game in a great series. Best story, best cast of characters, best location with the most scenic variety, the combat was perfected in this game, and had great music. I get how nostalgia of our childhoods makes the games we played then special to us, but when it comes down to it, those Turbo CD versions are not fun to play today and Ys VIII will always be fun to play. That's a big factor in how I choose the best. I love the first four Dragon Warrior (Quest) games personally but would I say they are better than VIII or XI? Hell no. lol
For Ys9, due to the use of 'food' items, all you do is consume Apple Pie and use the character's special moves that has time stop functionalities, like the Rapid punching Lion Fist one... You literally stop time so much that the gameworld only moves forward 0.1 second in between the moves. Infinite SP for regular moves is one thing, but infinite SP with time stopping moves is OP.
IX had great combat too but for me I just need more than one city for a setting. Granted they did a lot with that one city, but for me personally I like a bigger game world with more variety.
@@matosz23 i need the last two fish and some other things. but I can't skip i need to be extremly careful to not miss anyones quests cause its part of a trophy. i need everyones approval. 100%
Nier Automata was made in collaboration with Platinum Games so its combat is a step above most action RPGs Most of the Tales series games are very action oriented and it's great The Mana series is a critically acclaimed action RPG spinoff of Final Fantasy, and most of the games are very good, but the recent Trials of Mana remake has some similarities to Ys Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Crisis Core (and its recently released remake), and Stranger of Paradise have fairly good hack and slash combat mixed with classic JRPG gameplay Kingdom Hearts is a classic action RPG with a lot of combos, though you have to play the games in order to understand the story Persona 5 Strikers has classic musou gameplay mixed with the RPG elements of Persona and lastly the obvious answer, the other Ys games, specifically Ys 7, Memories of Celceta, and Ys 9 (though, if you're gonna play Ys 9, play the PC version, the console versions have some bad frame rate issues)
Turn off vsync and spam the tornado projectile and with a decent computer you end up instant killing bosses with a insane glitch which hits the boss like 50 times in a single frame.
I’m some devil may cry games there’s a hidden glitch/ intended mechanic where if u enter or exit devil trigger with very specific timing during powerful attacks you do the damage of human and devil dante at the same time, in dmc4 it became a full feature/ advanced tech .
Overall I really liked the combat and the story was decent. Throughout the story your base is being built almost every time you meet a new npc which I felt made the story engaging. I would rate the game a 8/10 and it made me get into ys
@@shockwave.9749 I havent played it. But from the looks of it, it seems to slightly improve on the combat from ys 8. I've heard that its a little worse but its probably still really good
That is true, never thought about it that way. Not a fan of souls "difficulty" being having bad/clucky controls. No matter how much the soul fans cry skill issue, to me, having a hard time controlling your character just screams fake/artificial difficulty. Let the difficulty come from enemies. I will always refer to Monster Hunter vs God Eater for this type of argument as well. I can’t stand Monster Hunter at all for very much the same reasons; difficulty comes from annoying controls rather than anything else. God Eater actually gives you good controls and as such it is the superior game.
@@flariz4824 Unironically a skill issue. There are many valid criticisms against the Souls games, such as the obtuse quest lines, but the combat is not one of them. The games are very responsive and your button presses come out immediately. I think some people just don't like how you can't mash on the attack button like most action games and get away with it, which is fine, but the combat is not bad at all. Same deal with MHW and Rise, I will agree that the old MH games are pretty clunky though.
@@AshenWitchElaina. "I think some people just don't like how you can't mash on the attack button like most action games and get away with it, which is fine" Spot on. This is an absolutely deal breaker to me and, frankly, reeks of fake difficulty in my opinion. Make the challenge come *from the enemies or obstacles* , NEVER make the very act of controling your own character *the* challenge..to me this is just plain not aceptable game design. I am sure I could power though it- I have done way harder challenges in the past, but I just don’t find it fun nor fair. If I reacted in time with a dodge but my in-game guy takes 3 seconds to roll/react (Obviously exaggerating but you get the point) then there is a huge problem. Evidently there is a market for it though, which I am cleary not a part of. And yeah same thing with Monster Hunter. I tried World after certain people in the God Eater community insisted me to try it saying it was the grandfather of monster games and better in every way than God Eater and.. I hated the experience. God Eater beat it it almost every way except a higher budget of course (Admittedly impressive looking game ngl) EDIT: I just realized I basically typed the same response earlier in this thread... oh well it is a bit more detailed I guess.
Can't get into any action rpg its just to repetitive for me just practically spamming the attack button acasionally having the slow motion dodge lol just not fun imo
Yeah I like the game, but its not as mechanically solid/versatile compared to other action rpgs like kh2, tales games like xillia 2, or astral chain etc
@@radioactive_cosmicrays6968 yeah all those games are great to although I havent played the xillia games sadly. I just feel like ys 8 is just extremely fun even if its less mechanically in depth. More of a shut your brain off game and just have fun playing it
The point of Ys combat is to be more arcade-like with fast and fluidity to it. Almost all action games in modern time feels more grounded that sometime slow the attacks and skills and required strategize combos.
YS 8 is basic in every aspect. The story, characters and rpg elements too. There's not a single saving grace to make it worth the time investment to see it through to the end. IDK what is wrong with people saying it's a masterpiece.
It's genuinely as technically complex as fighting games but as intuitive and approachable as a button-mashing side-scroller and I fucking love it.
i know right? I just beat the game and currently playing tales of arise and man I miss the fast paced combat of this game.
Hands down the best game in the series imo. One of my favorite games of all time, played this game like a year ago for the first time, fell in love with it. A complete remake with the combat staying the same would just be incredible!
That's debatable. Ys Book 1 and 2 are tough to beat. Technically Ys 8 is years beyond. However it's not considered the best RPG of its time. Where as Ys Books 1 and 2 at its time could argue being the best RPG period. It was a mind blowing experience in the early 90s to play Ys Book 1 and 2 for the Turbo CD.
No time for remakes (unless it's the old chibi ones) they still have 91 of Adol's adventures to make
@@orlandoserrano500 Personally, Ys 1 and 2 are great games, but way down when it comes to the series, Ys 8 being a peak for the series is a commonly agreed upon notion among the fan base. Ys 1 and 2 were famous when they released as Falcom was well known at that time, but after that they disappeared from the western market for a time being, Ys 8 brought back the series in an amazing way.
I agree. This game took me completely by surprise. I love this series so calling it the best does not mean the other games suck, just that this game was special and stands out above the rest. For me it had the best overall story arc and cast of characters in the series and the combat was so fun. Not only is this game best in the series for me, its in my top ten JRPGs of all time.
@@orlandoserrano500 I love this whole series, but I agree with OP. VIII is easily the best game in a great series. Best story, best cast of characters, best location with the most scenic variety, the combat was perfected in this game, and had great music. I get how nostalgia of our childhoods makes the games we played then special to us, but when it comes down to it, those Turbo CD versions are not fun to play today and Ys VIII will always be fun to play. That's a big factor in how I choose the best. I love the first four Dragon Warrior (Quest) games personally but would I say they are better than VIII or XI? Hell no. lol
Well I'm not surprised because Falcom is the first game dev that invented Action-RPG Genre
god I hope you're not being serious
@@dangox3370 Just casually telling the fact, I don't see anything wrong with it.
Yeah, “Dragon Slayer” is a historical game!
Man, Ys grabbed me by the neck in memories of celceta, and 8 was just " if you have fingers , it's better use them. "
The battle system is chef's kiss
Can't wait for ys10 at the upcoming year
Ngl. I still feel like Ys 8 is the best in the series after playing Ys 9, Memories of Celceta, Seven, and Oath in Felghana.
Have you played Origin? That one is my favorite so far! But I'm just starting out Lacrimosa. Very excited
Did you fight this boss in NG+ with the option that increase ennemie's level ?
Astonishing game, very superior to any other of the series
Ys 8's combat is peak Ys gameplay. I understand they wanted to do something refreshing and new for Ys 9 but it that wasn't it.
For Ys9, due to the use of 'food' items, all you do is consume Apple Pie and use the character's special moves that has time stop functionalities, like the Rapid punching Lion Fist one...
You literally stop time so much that the gameworld only moves forward 0.1 second in between the moves.
Infinite SP for regular moves is one thing, but infinite SP with time stopping moves is OP.
IX had great combat too but for me I just need more than one city for a setting. Granted they did a lot with that one city, but for me personally I like a bigger game world with more variety.
Reminds me of the mana series
This is how good SAO wished its combat was.
all i do is think about getting the Platinum and I feel like crying about it.
Speaking as someone who has the Platinum... given how special and amazing this game is, it was a joy to do it. No need for tears.
It was an easy plat. The second run goes extremely fast when you skip everything.
@@matosz23 i need the last two fish and some other things. but I can't skip i need to be extremly careful to not miss anyones quests cause its part of a trophy. i need everyones approval. 100%
@@stephaneriopel8766
You can 100% do it. Keep at it!
I fell in love with the game and never wanted to get platinum more as it was a badge of dedication for something so beloved.
Hey mate could you recommend some jrpg with a good combat system similar to Ys 8?
Tales of arise
Nier Automata was made in collaboration with Platinum Games so its combat is a step above most action RPGs
Most of the Tales series games are very action oriented and it's great
The Mana series is a critically acclaimed action RPG spinoff of Final Fantasy, and most of the games are very good, but the recent Trials of Mana remake has some similarities to Ys
Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Crisis Core (and its recently released remake), and Stranger of Paradise have fairly good hack and slash combat mixed with classic JRPG gameplay
Kingdom Hearts is a classic action RPG with a lot of combos, though you have to play the games in order to understand the story
Persona 5 Strikers has classic musou gameplay mixed with the RPG elements of Persona
and lastly the obvious answer, the other Ys games, specifically Ys 7, Memories of Celceta, and Ys 9 (though, if you're gonna play Ys 9, play the PC version, the console versions have some bad frame rate issues)
Ys 9
Seconding Nier Automata. I know this is a late response, but Nier Automata deserves it.
Gbf relink
Turn off vsync and spam the tornado projectile and with a decent computer you end up instant killing bosses with a insane glitch which hits the boss like 50 times in a single frame.
I’m some devil may cry games there’s a hidden glitch/ intended mechanic where if u enter or exit devil trigger with very specific timing during powerful attacks you do the damage of human and devil dante at the same time, in dmc4 it became a full feature/ advanced tech .
try playing on inferno. That first hit u took would take 60% of your life.
I want to at some point but im playing ys the oath in felghana rn
Is this combar reeltime ur turnbased?
Bro does it look turn based ? It’s real time as hell almost a dmc game lol
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Better than 9 in terms of combat imo
Ys 8 is better than ys 9 hoping for ys 10 to be much more better
How is the combat compared to YS IX?
I would say its slightly worse because its pretty much the same but without the monstrum abilities. But its only very slightly worse
@@dreamdesigner4492 i'm planning to get YS 8, how is the framerate all throughout the game?
@@CantFindNemo perfect, + the loading screens are nonexistent
@@nicogalax good to know, I'm waiting for discount xD
@@CantFindNemo the last discount in Steam was a month ago or less xd probably 3 weeks ago
it looks like you just smash buttons for 5 minutes waiting for a single enemy to die
thats exactly how combat works in this game. Mindless button mashing.
Its a boss
I can't figure out if this game looks fun or like I'd get bored after a few hours
Overall I really liked the combat and the story was decent. Throughout the story your base is being built almost every time you meet a new npc which I felt made the story engaging. I would rate the game a 8/10 and it made me get into ys
@@dreamdesigner4492 I'm thinking about it, I'd much prefer a physical copy but they got it on sale on ps store for 15$
@@shockwave.9749 Yeah I got it digitally since it was on sale but the cases artwork is pretty cool so both are good options
@@dreamdesigner4492 yea, looks like generally 45 for anps4 physical, like 60+ for a switch copy 🤢🤮 have you played Ys IX? Is that one good too?
@@shockwave.9749 I havent played it. But from the looks of it, it seems to slightly improve on the combat from ys 8. I've heard that its a little worse but its probably still really good
In the era when almost everything seems infested with "souls" crap, Ys remain one of the last remained actually fun action games
Gid gud
Souls crap is fun too though. The first three Steam games I installed to test out my fresh OS were Ys 9, Elden Ring, and Trails from Zero.
That is true, never thought about it that way.
Not a fan of souls "difficulty" being having bad/clucky controls. No matter how much the soul fans cry skill issue, to me, having a hard time controlling your character just screams fake/artificial difficulty. Let the difficulty come from enemies.
I will always refer to Monster Hunter vs God Eater for this type of argument as well. I can’t stand Monster Hunter at all for very much the same reasons; difficulty comes from annoying controls rather than anything else. God Eater actually gives you good controls and as such it is the superior game.
@@flariz4824 Unironically a skill issue. There are many valid criticisms against the Souls games, such as the obtuse quest lines, but the combat is not one of them. The games are very responsive and your button presses come out immediately. I think some people just don't like how you can't mash on the attack button like most action games and get away with it, which is fine, but the combat is not bad at all. Same deal with MHW and Rise, I will agree that the old MH games are pretty clunky though.
@@AshenWitchElaina. "I think some people just don't like how you can't mash on the attack button like most action games and get away with it, which is fine"
Spot on. This is an absolutely deal breaker to me and, frankly, reeks of fake difficulty in my opinion.
Make the challenge come *from the enemies or obstacles* , NEVER make the very act of controling your own character *the* challenge..to me this is just plain not aceptable game design. I am sure I could power though it- I have done way harder challenges in the past, but I just don’t find it fun nor fair. If I reacted in time with a dodge but my in-game guy takes 3 seconds to roll/react (Obviously exaggerating but you get the point) then there is a huge problem.
Evidently there is a market for it though, which I am cleary not a part of.
And yeah same thing with Monster Hunter. I tried World after certain people in the God Eater community insisted me to try it saying it was the grandfather of monster games and better in every way than God Eater and.. I hated the experience.
God Eater beat it it almost every way except a higher budget of course (Admittedly impressive looking game ngl)
EDIT: I just realized I basically typed the same response earlier in this thread... oh well it is a bit more detailed I guess.
Can't get into any action rpg its just to repetitive for me just practically spamming the attack button acasionally having the slow motion dodge lol just not fun imo
Yeah, we really don't have the same definition of "top tier"
Whats your top tier combat in a video game?? Im looking for some more good games to play
@@dreamdesigner4492 Devil may cry, Code vein, Sekiro, Nioh
@@lenain3932 i couldn't really get into nioh but those are all solid games
@@lenain3932 code vein isnt even good
@@shutup1037 Combat is good tho
its pretty basic ass combat mechanics for an arpg
Basic doesnt mean its not fun af
Yeah I like the game, but its not as mechanically solid/versatile compared to other action rpgs like kh2, tales games like xillia 2, or astral chain etc
@@radioactive_cosmicrays6968 yeah all those games are great to although I havent played the xillia games sadly. I just feel like ys 8 is just extremely fun even if its less mechanically in depth. More of a shut your brain off game and just have fun playing it
The point of Ys combat is to be more arcade-like with fast and fluidity to it. Almost all action games in modern time feels more grounded that sometime slow the attacks and skills and required strategize combos.
YS 8 is basic in every aspect. The story, characters and rpg elements too. There's not a single saving grace to make it worth the time investment to see it through to the end. IDK what is wrong with people saying it's a masterpiece.