after seeing this scene again i'm reminded of how much thorfinn uses askeladd's techniques of unarmed combat and even the mental games with thors' philosophy, really melds together
Askellad was as much as a father to thorfin as Thors was, that's the beauty of it, with the passing of time thorfin learned to see askeladd as a father too in his own way, not the father he would dream of but the one he had and taught everything he knows, just like askellad did with his own father, he hated him, he couldn't even stand the idea of sharing the same blood of that man but in the end he learned a lot from his father and he acknowledged the fact, the main difference is that thorfin had at least been able to break that chain of hatred but I want to believe that's also a merit of askeladd because by him being a better father to thorfin than what his own father ever was to him he was able to set him on a better path and so on
@@7aemr no, you didn't get what I mean, what I'm saying is, askellad's father was horrible to him so he tried to be a better father figure to thorfin so he might break the cycle of hatred
@@Melissa31179sorry but I 100000% disagree. People try to find romance in every character AND father/mother relationships. They did NOT have a son/father relationship. They had a student and mentor relationship. Don't get them confused
@@TheGl0ryan looking by his backstory, Garm prolly always tough everyone in the battle field are friends and they're having fun-- such twisted world view
@@genz75 I really hope the anime fleshes it out more. I was really sad it cut away from it half way through and then cut back to both of them being absolute brutalized by each other.
Anytime Askellad appears to Thorfinn, you know it’s about to reach new levels of PEAK! “See?” “Ah I see…” Thorfinn finally learned what Askellad was trying to teach him all that time ago.
@@revanliviar1239 yep he literally follows Askeladd move for move. As abusive as he was, Askeladd was a great mentor when it comes to mental and physical combat.
Askellad was ruthless and cold but he mean no evil against thorffin. Thors was probably the only men he ever respected and he did the best to not kill thorffin for nothing. The boy proven to be strong but not smart and askellad was sad for it. he looked for thorffin with hopes of seeing Thors sometimes. Both would be proud of thorffin after he regained his freedom
to some extent, this fight shows/implies Thorfinn's greatest "weakness." in order to build people a peaceful place to call home, he must be mentally and physically strong. he *must* be an expert. however, not every person can become an expert. after Thorfinn passed away, the people he loved would be left unguarded. one strong and powerful man is just not enough to make the promised land come real.
That’s why he needs to have a child of his own to train, a child with his genetics and reflexes. Supposedly he has an another unnamed child outside of his adopted one.
This is why it’s never enough to merely be a moral person, or a person of integrity, or to have a vision. You must have all of those things to be great, but you must also have power. Power is as much of a virtue as the other attributes.
I love how Askellad and Thors teachings parallel. Thors taught Thorfinn good morals and what it means to be a good warrior while Askellad taught Thorfinn how to survive and teach others how to survive in the cruel world.
Only thing I didn’t like was how they didn’t show the rest of the journey to Greece. That would’ve been interesting to watch how thorfinn dealt with a different culture
@@Chadius_Thundercock I feel like, authors thinks themselves funny (and I would too), if seeing how people make fanfics, that their own fans would make small web comic strips or posts about the interesting parts of the show which weren't shown. Like the Avengers chilling in the soul stone, or Cap returning the Infinity Stones, etc.
Quick question: are you knowledgeable on the vast number of seiyuu in Japan? If so, then should the 3rd season of Vinland Saga come out, who would you like to see or *_hear_* as the voice of Garm? My personal favourites are Shun Horie, Tasuku Hatanaka, and Kikunosuke Toya!! ☝🏾😁
Thorfinn played war games as a kid. Now, he's fighting Garm, who treats a real war like it's a children's game. Full circle. It's like how Gi-hun and Sang-woo played Squid Game as children. Then as adults, they play Squid Game to the death.
Garm saying Thorfinn had fun killing people pissed me off. I've seen almost all his battles, and not once was he ever having fun in any of them. He did all of those killing for his ultimately fruitly revenge. Not everyone involve in a war likes it, you spyco.
@@vince7520 Thorgil is strong but he is little above regular jomviking Snake strenght is there to, but slave Thorfin was able to keep up with Snake, without a sweat Thorfin was weakest in second season thats also fact
Thors is literally on top, he got the Thorkell's strength, Thorfinn's speed and AskeChadd's battle IQ (since he outsmarted AskeChadd in their fight) And as for Thorfinn, I think he might have even climbed above Thorkel's tier by now cuz there's no way he won't improve as he gets older.
Hild: 🤕If you killed that crazy spearman, I'll kill you. Thorfinn:.. Hild: *its not like I'm gonna cry if you are killed.* You survive this one. Thorfinn: 😐
I haven’t watched the video or read the comments since I don’t want to be spoiled. But I just wanted to say thanks for the spoiler warning in the title and non revealing thumb nail. I appreciate it :)
The first time I saw Thorfinn like this I was so mudaf***ng hyped... I though - they used "arise" on my man Askelaad. This fight was one hell of a turn point for Thorfinn
Why do they make it seem like Thorfinn would loose to Hilde? If he EVER fought her with the desire to kill her (not to subdue her or injure her, but to actually kill her) she’d be dead no questions asked.
Man, as someone who doesn't mind spoilers, this was AWESOME to see. I am a huge fan of the lessons Askeladd taught Thorfinn. In short - I love these two. This made me tear up!!! Does Thorfinn think of Askeladd much in the manga past season 2 of the anime? I have been itching to know if Askeladd is a thought in his mind still?! ❤
@@19powpow91 there’s the moment from this video in chapter 156, and I know for sure there’s another one in the current arc, but I haven’t started reading the current arc yet so I’m not sure which chapter it’s from. Though there are a bunch of different moments where Thorfinn gets reminded of his past, and while Askeladd may not be the main focus in those moments, you know he’s still on Thorfinn’s mind.
@@chill1694 thank you! I have one final question! Lol. Does Thorfinn ever talk about (or think) fondly of Askeladd for what he taught him? Or do you still get the impression that Thorfinn is haunted by him still?
@@19powpow91 In this scene he acknowledges that the things he learned from Askeladd are keeping him alive. I think Thorfinn is still kinda haunted by him, but in chapter 68 Einar tells him “nothing good can come from hating the dead”, and Thorfinn responds with “I don’t hate him anymore…… that’s what makes this so hard to deal with. Now that my hatred is gone… I’m empty.” Thorfinn has healed a lot since that point, but his past still plagues him, though probably not as much as it did during farm arc. Spoilers for current arc: I haven’t read this far, but I’ve seen a panel of Leif saying “Follow your heart. My son.” with the image of Thors and Askeladd to each side of Leif. I don’t think Thorfinn thinks really fondly of Askeladd, but Askeladd was a big part of his life and caused Thorfinn to be the way he is, whether it be useful skills to stay alive or bad memories and ptsd. I’ve seen someone say it’s like an abusive parent, and I think that describes it fairly well.
I got a feeling that Hild will fall in love with Thorfinn He might have learned it from Askelladd but it also remind me of how Thor fought and his mindset is becoming like that
Nah that won’t make any sense. Thorfinn is already married and has a child. I think there’s even a second child on the way. Would make no sense to have Hild love thorfinn
haha, have you read the manga? it's not a big point in the story or anything but at least one character who sees Garm fights thinks to himself that he might be one of Thorkells bastard sons.
@@shawnfromstatefarm8822 yeah he thinks violence should be a last resort. In this fight he was running away the whole time, and on the defensive. Then when he did harm Garm, it was only a headbutt.
Thank you! I haven’t read Vagabond yet, but I do plan on reading it since I’ve heard a lot of good things about it. Once I read it I will probably make some videos on it.
Hello , I am a fan of Vinland Saga ，i love your video ，i am a blogger of bilibili in china,I want more anime fans to see this video, can i repost this video on bilibili？ I will credit video source and your channal, hope you can agree
I love this, I've been thinking about making an mmv on my own about one very special chapter of vinland saga. What editing program did you use? Would you recommend that for beginners?
Thank you! I use Alight Motion to make the panels fit the screen, and to have them move how I want. I also use Capcut sometimes for transitions, and effects like zooming out.
If you have more questions about the specifics, you can let me know and I’ll try my best to answer. These apps have a lot of different features that can be overwhelming, but there are only a few features that you really need to know about in order to make an edit.
Thors taught Thorfinn to live
Askeladd taught him to survive
after seeing this scene again i'm reminded of how much thorfinn uses askeladd's techniques of unarmed combat and even the mental games with thors' philosophy, really melds together
Askellad was as much as a father to thorfin as Thors was, that's the beauty of it, with the passing of time thorfin learned to see askeladd as a father too in his own way, not the father he would dream of but the one he had and taught everything he knows, just like askellad did with his own father, he hated him, he couldn't even stand the idea of sharing the same blood of that man but in the end he learned a lot from his father and he acknowledged the fact, the main difference is that thorfin had at least been able to break that chain of hatred but I want to believe that's also a merit of askeladd because by him being a better father to thorfin than what his own father ever was to him he was able to set him on a better path and so on
@@Melissa31179 sorry you lost me at the end, are you saying thors was not a good father to thorfinn?
@@7aemr no, you didn't get what I mean, what I'm saying is, askellad's father was horrible to him so he tried to be a better father figure to thorfin so he might break the cycle of hatred
@@Melissa31179thors was his father and askeladd was his daddy (guardians of the Galaxy terminology)
@@Melissa31179sorry but I 100000% disagree. People try to find romance in every character AND father/mother relationships. They did NOT have a son/father relationship. They had a student and mentor relationship. Don't get them confused
I love how he answers Askellad
"See?"
"Ah, I see..."
True, but I also love the part in which Garm admits that they are already friends
lmao literally took yrs and even his death until thorfinn responded
I just noticed that reading this I thought he was simply referencing what he said to him. You've got some good analysis skills.
@@TheGl0ryan looking by his backstory, Garm prolly always tough everyone in the battle field are friends and they're having fun-- such twisted world view
AskeChadd still living on even after his death in the manga, that's how great he is.
I pray to god S2 is successful enough for season 3 to be renewed. Garm VS Thorfinn is so cool.
Most probably that won't happen, many watch anime only for fights They don't care how the story progresses
@@Revan-oi5il hat so you mean. Vinland Saga is still in The Top 10 New Anime Seasons since it came out😂😂 they making mad money
@@Revan-oi5il trust me, if they show Thorkell, Garn and Floki for Season 3, people would love t to watch it
thorkell vs garm is amazing too
@@genz75 I really hope the anime fleshes it out more. I was really sad it cut away from it half way through and then cut back to both of them being absolute brutalized by each other.
Thorfinn's character development is amazing. Walking down the path of Thors while using Askeladd's way to enrage the person he is fighting.
Anytime Askellad appears to Thorfinn, you know it’s about to reach new levels of PEAK!
“See?”
“Ah I see…”
Thorfinn finally learned what Askellad was trying to teach him all that time ago.
Starting at 4:09 It’s amazing how in the panel where he uses Askellad’s mind games, he literallly has his exact facial expressions.
Probably made that expression on purpose because he remembered it pissing him off
@@revanliviar1239 yep he literally follows Askeladd move for move. As abusive as he was, Askeladd was a great mentor when it comes to mental and physical combat.
Gosh I love it so much, I gave in and watched but hopefully I won’t regret it.. whenever years later we’d get to see the show at least 🥲
Askellad was ruthless and cold but he mean no evil against thorffin. Thors was probably the only men he ever respected and he did the best to not kill thorffin for nothing. The boy proven to be strong but not smart and askellad was sad for it. he looked for thorffin with hopes of seeing Thors sometimes. Both would be proud of thorffin after he regained his freedom
Askeladd is the perfect anti hero. Askeladd was ruthless and cold but for the right reasons.
I really like what you say, I didn´t think of it like that
They were like young thors and thorkell
to some extent, this fight shows/implies Thorfinn's greatest "weakness."
in order to build people a peaceful place to call home, he must be mentally and physically strong. he *must* be an expert.
however, not every person can become an expert. after Thorfinn passed away, the people he loved would be left unguarded.
one strong and powerful man is just not enough to make the promised land come real.
That’s why he needs to have a child of his own to train, a child with his genetics and reflexes. Supposedly he has an another unnamed child outside of his adopted one.
If you try to read the history about viking arrival to america you'd know what would happened
basically the vinland saga spoiler
@@makotomachiyuki Whats that?
@@average312 wikipedia is your friend
This is why it’s never enough to merely be a moral person, or a person of integrity, or to have a vision. You must have all of those things to be great, but you must also have power. Power is as much of a virtue as the other attributes.
I love how Askellad and Thors teachings parallel. Thors taught Thorfinn good morals and what it means to be a good warrior while Askellad taught Thorfinn how to survive and teach others how to survive in the cruel world.
Peak Thorffin design
He looks cool even with a bowl cut his sister gave him!
I read 110 to 162 chapters in just one day. Whole baltic sea arc was fantastic. Couldn't stop myself by reading next chapter each time....
🤝🏻Me today.
Only thing I didn’t like was how they didn’t show the rest of the journey to Greece. That would’ve been interesting to watch how thorfinn dealt with a different culture
@@Chadius_Thundercock I feel like, authors thinks themselves funny (and I would too), if seeing how people make fanfics, that their own fans would make small web comic strips or posts about the interesting parts of the show which weren't shown.
Like the Avengers chilling in the soul stone, or Cap returning the Infinity Stones, etc.
Just read from 100 to 176 this series is phenomenal!
Dude, literally the same (basically). Absolutely devoured those chapters. VS is, hands down, one of my all-time favs.
This fight will break internet when it gets animated. It has to
Thorfinn really playing in expert mode and playing mind games in opponents clearly an advantage
Conehead, Baldhead, Middle Part, Broom...
Thorfinn goes straight to head for insults.😂
He goes straight for the head.
When we get season 3 , this will go crazy
Quick question: are you knowledgeable on the vast number of seiyuu in Japan? If so, then should the 3rd season of Vinland Saga come out, who would you like to see or *_hear_* as the voice of Garm? My personal favourites are Shun Horie, Tasuku Hatanaka, and Kikunosuke Toya!! ☝🏾😁
4:56 i like how thorfinn smile like that
It was like looking at Askeladd.
@@matthewcoster5535Thorfinn's expression at that time really believed he was indeed strong
daddy askeladd still teaching thorfinn shit from beyond the mortal plane
i sometimes like to think this is a parallel on how thors and thorkell met for the first time
Lol you are absolutely right, I didn't even think about it
He made both of his father's proud!
What a fantastic fight it was.
Thanks for your marvelous edit.
I've really enjoyed
Yeah this fight was really well done. Thank you for the support!
My boy learn the dad movement❤
Thorfin becoming more like his father
I've been avoiding these like the plague out of fear of spoiling myself before I can see it animated.
I personnally couldnt wait so right after the episode where Thorfinn fought Snake, I had to go and read the manga
@@gravito1573 are you taking about when snake tried to slash thorfinn? That wasn’t a fight
@@SwordSaint27 yeah whatever
@@SwordSaint27 bruh
No doubt after watching season 2 and the absolute art they did with initial work that they will do an absolute banger of a scene with this one
This music realy fits the fight
Mappa you got this ❤
Your edits are excellent, I always enjoy seeing you upload a new video
The music you choose and the way you edit is perfect.
Thank you! Hearing that really gives me the motivation to post videos even if they are kinda different from what I usually post.
Bro has 100 speechcraft, 100 agility, 100 def, 100 HP
"Use this life on loan" yeah that's how the world works till this day
“Yes I see” chills 🥶
Thorfinn is the strongest because he is someone who fights with intention of not killing rather than with murderous intent.
thorfinn anwsered askellads question only after so many years
Thorfinn played war games as a kid. Now, he's fighting Garm, who treats a real war like it's a children's game. Full circle.
It's like how Gi-hun and Sang-woo played Squid Game as children. Then as adults, they play Squid Game to the death.
“This is how experts play” 🗿
Man this is the first video I’ve seen from you and it’s awesome. Love the music choice and the way the panels pan around and move. Great stuff!
Thank you so much! That really means a lot to me :)
@@chill1694日本人です。
著作権はどうなっているんですか？
もし著作権に不正があるのならば、それはクリエイターに対する冒涜ですよ。
Garm saying Thorfinn had fun killing people pissed me off. I've seen almost all his battles, and not once was he ever having fun in any of them. He did all of those killing for his ultimately fruitly revenge. Not everyone involve in a war likes it, you spyco.
consider that Garm is in top 4 strongest with Thors, Thorkell and Torfin.. Realy this fight felt good
and askeladd
Nahh Garm still inferior to Snake or Thorgill
But he is top 10 for sure.
@@vince7520 Thorgil is strong but he is little above regular jomviking
Snake strenght is there to, but slave Thorfin was able to keep up with Snake, without a sweat
Thorfin was weakest in second season thats also fact
@@vince7520 Garm is killing machine, beast, lost just cuz of ego and lack if emotion controll
Thors is literally on top, he got the Thorkell's strength, Thorfinn's speed and AskeChadd's battle IQ (since he outsmarted AskeChadd in their fight)
And as for Thorfinn, I think he might have even climbed above Thorkel's tier by now cuz there's no way he won't improve as he gets older.
its funny how Garm led to all the events that destroyed everything Floki worked for
Now that i think about it yes lmao
Such a beautiful parrallel, I love every bit of it
I was just thinking he finally learned something from askeladd right before the flash back scene. Mans finally grown up.
Hild: 🤕If you killed that crazy spearman, I'll kill you.
Thorfinn:..
Hild: *its not like I'm gonna cry if you are killed.* You survive this one.
Thorfinn: 😐
can't wait fir this in like 3 years
askellad is in hell right now laughing at garm and sheding tears of joy and being all proud for thorfinn for this one I'm sure
I can't wait for this to be animated
Man Askeladd really is his father
He's actually Thorfinn's father if you don't know
@@Boutbel2005 talking abt the mind games
@@kye1814 ?
I will protect my own life not take my opponent’s and still win🔥
I haven’t watched the video or read the comments since I don’t want to be spoiled. But I just wanted to say thanks for the spoiler warning in the title and non revealing thumb nail. I appreciate it :)
Thorfinn is the real The Iron Fist 🔥
The first time I saw Thorfinn like this I was so mudaf***ng hyped... I though - they used "arise" on my man Askelaad. This fight was one hell of a turn point for Thorfinn
I looooove this scene 😭
in the end, he is askeladd's son too
Why I do feel so proud for a fictional character
Only giga chads reads vinland manga
Thank you for adapting my favorite scene in the manga
I really loved this scene as well. Thank you for the support!
omfg its gonna be soo Firee!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thorfinn showed what he learned from askeladd
ahh this show is great
3:57 is just perfection
Askeladd knows how to fight without killing cause that's what he's done to thorfinn forever
4:55 he acting like askeladd hes 2nd father
This is perfect
Thors and Thorkell
The next generation:
Thorfinn and Garm
goatland saga
It feels like Garm is Thorfinn's Thorkell. Just loving a good fight
No one gonna talk about how Garm was cute here? 😆 😂
thorfinn calling garm broomhead, askeladd baldy and drott middle part 😂😂 he likes making fun of peoples hair
Unintentional comedic genius
Askellad was a great father figure to Thorfinn!
Thors will be wondering in valhalla where Thorfinn gets his sass.
Top 3 hands down.
8:05 🥶🥵
What a scene
4:11 my bro call him a newbie😂
"but I've got better talent"........sure.....
I See...
i really hope they get the voice actor who played haizake from kuroko no basket to va this character
There's something wrong with garm bro and I love it
Love the childishness pf gram
Why do they make it seem like Thorfinn would loose to Hilde? If he EVER fought her with the desire to kill her (not to subdue her or injure her, but to actually kill her) she’d be dead no questions asked.
yeah hild needs to shut the fuck up tbh
Great edits.. Have no fkin idea whats going on.
I need to make a workout routine based on Garm, bro is def my favorite character in the series😭
If u read the latest chapter native americans killing thorfins people even in vinland he cant avoid wars
This battle was like thorfinn metaphorically defeating his younger self
Hild is my baby.
Hild is annoying.
No. Im ur baby.
Mine too. Cool af , beautiful, clever, knowledgable and heart in the right place😊
No my
@popalhaco nah she's cool now
Man, as someone who doesn't mind spoilers, this was AWESOME to see. I am a huge fan of the lessons Askeladd taught Thorfinn. In short - I love these two. This made me tear up!!! Does Thorfinn think of Askeladd much in the manga past season 2 of the anime? I have been itching to know if Askeladd is a thought in his mind still?! ❤
We get to see Thorfinn think of Askeladd occasionally
@@chill1694 can you remember what chapters in the manga? Or no? It's fine if you don't. Lol
@@19powpow91 there’s the moment from this video in chapter 156, and I know for sure there’s another one in the current arc, but I haven’t started reading the current arc yet so I’m not sure which chapter it’s from.
Though there are a bunch of different moments where Thorfinn gets reminded of his past, and while Askeladd may not be the main focus in those moments, you know he’s still on Thorfinn’s mind.
@@chill1694 thank you! I have one final question! Lol. Does Thorfinn ever talk about (or think) fondly of Askeladd for what he taught him? Or do you still get the impression that Thorfinn is haunted by him still?
@@19powpow91 In this scene he acknowledges that the things he learned from Askeladd are keeping him alive.
I think Thorfinn is still kinda haunted by him, but in chapter 68 Einar tells him “nothing good can come from hating the dead”,
and Thorfinn responds with “I don’t hate him anymore…… that’s what makes this so hard to deal with. Now that my hatred is gone… I’m empty.”
Thorfinn has healed a lot since that point, but his past still plagues him, though probably not as much as it did during farm arc.
Spoilers for current arc:
I haven’t read this far, but I’ve seen a panel of Leif saying “Follow your heart. My son.” with the image of Thors and Askeladd to each side of Leif.
I don’t think Thorfinn thinks really fondly of Askeladd, but Askeladd was a big part of his life and caused Thorfinn to be the way he is, whether it be useful skills to stay alive or bad memories and ptsd.
I’ve seen someone say it’s like an abusive parent, and I think that describes it fairly well.
I’m really interested in how they tackle S3. Gotta be longer than 24 eps, surely?
Based on how much volumes they adapted in s1 and s2, s3 if it has 24 episode will have the entire baltic sea arc and ends right before the vinland arc
Gram thinking they are friends is cute
uh when this gets animated
Thorkell got small😂
I got a feeling that Hild will fall in love with Thorfinn
He might have learned it from Askelladd but it also remind me of how Thor fought and his mindset is becoming like that
Nah that won’t make any sense. Thorfinn is already married and has a child. I think there’s even a second child on the way. Would make no sense to have Hild love thorfinn
@@SwordSaint27 like if vikings didn't have many woman at the same time, bitch please
@@matias5817 brotha that won't happen in vinland saga lmao
@@SwordSaint27 your acting like having more wife than one is impossible but yeah that one wouldn’t make sense
Hell no
Ewwwwww
i think garm is more suitable to b thorkells son both of them love war and cant stop wanting to beat stronger warriors
haha, have you read the manga? it's not a big point in the story or anything but at least one character who sees Garm fights thinks to himself that he might be one of Thorkells bastard sons.
this also a clash of ideologies
I didn't read the manga, I am only watching the anime.
I thought he doesn't fight again.
Protecting/protecting yourself is different. He swore off random acts of violence.
@@shawnfromstatefarm8822 yeah he thinks violence should be a last resort. In this fight he was running away the whole time, and on the defensive. Then when he did harm Garm, it was only a headbutt.
He swore off violence without purpose. He swore off killing entirely. But he still fights if he’s forced to.
Thorfinn invents Viking aikido
i really love your videos. could you start making few on vagabond?
Thank you! I haven’t read Vagabond yet, but I do plan on reading it since I’ve heard a lot of good things about it. Once I read it I will probably make some videos on it.
READ VAGABOND ITS UP THERE W VINLAND@@chill1694
Bro's a smurf in a low elo game
Bro said he has more talent to thorfinn… like thorfinn defeated thorkell
Hello , I am a fan of Vinland Saga ，i love your video ，i am a blogger of bilibili in china,I want more anime fans to see this video, can i repost this video on bilibili？ I will credit video source and your channal, hope you can agree
Thank you! You can repost the video if you want to
@@chill1694 OK thank you
I love this, I've been thinking about making an mmv on my own about one very special chapter of vinland saga. What editing program did you use? Would you recommend that for beginners?
Thank you!
I use Alight Motion to make the panels fit the screen, and to have them move how I want. I also use Capcut sometimes for transitions, and effects like zooming out.
If you have more questions about the specifics, you can let me know and I’ll try my best to answer.
These apps have a lot of different features that can be overwhelming, but there are only a few features that you really need to know about in order to make an edit.
节奏太好了
Actually for me this spear guys is too anime for viking era, feels out of theme.
Not for me, he just seems like a young Thorkell.