You only have ONE Try - OUTLANDING COMPILATION
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- Опубліковано 26 гру 2022
- Sometimes you can't reach an airfield, then you just select a landout field and land there. It's always an adventure!
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The best moment is when everything went well, your landed safely, and suddenly it’s completely quiet. Because the flight and especially the landing are rather noicy and your concentrated, and it stops in one second. You open you canopy, you know your in the middle of nowhere and yell loudly „shit“, but nobody hears you anyway. So now, you just sit and wait for the next 2-7 Hours till your friends come.
Props to the cameraman for filming and playing the flute at the same time. Respect!!!
🤣🤣
Should have played high-pitch notes on that "flute", and Stefan would have made it back to a proper airfield :)
Oh I love people like you. You make the world a better place
😂
hahaha :D
Haha, yes, you missed out the parts where you are explaining your landing to the landowner!
Not a problem. As you can see most landings was on harvested grain fields. No damage there. One landing was on a field with seedlings. Not a lot damage there. When the farmer is picky you pay the damage and get reimbursed by the liability insurance for small sums, for larger damage it is regulated between the proprietor and your insurance. They will insist on proper evidence for actual damage.
At the field where half of the competition landed out you can already see the tractor of the owner.
More often you get invited to a coffee and cookies, and they will be helpful pulling your plane out when the ground is really soft and freshly ploughed.
@@kaihorstmann2783 As a paraglider I never had an issue with landowners till now, but I think the cookies are reserved for the sail plane pilots ;)
@@kaihorstmann2783 I know it well. My father flew for over 60 yrs and I remember being part of the reconnaissance crew to come get him with the glider trailer when he landed out. Don't think all the farmers were all that happy sometimes, though remember some that were really interested in the glider.
Outside of Murica no problem, no shooting involved .
Friend of mine landed his paraglider at balmoral once by accident.
I think, every glider pilot will remember his/her the first outlanding the same way as the first solo flight🙂 It is probably the most exiting part of the the flight. Thank you for sharing it, Stefan!🙂
I'm a plane pilot so dont know much about gliders. But from your comment it sounds like this isn't an uncommon thing to happen. Is it normal to have a landing not on the airfield? Normal might not be the right word though
@@midnigh7x If the glider pilot is unable to find thermals to gain lift, they often choose to land out, which is just landing on an area of land identified as safe because there are no trees/livestock. 👍
@@fairladyzee2152 Thanks for that, also one more quick question. Whats the lever they hold with their left hand used for?
@@midnigh7x the blue lever is the airbrakes and in some gliders also the wheel brakes
@@fairladyzee2152 Just to pick up on Midnight7X's question: how common is it? I can imagine it largely depends on pilot skill and judgement, but what are the typical chances of an outlanding for a new pilot, an average experienced pilot, and an expert pilot?
At 0:48 it's rather scary: a line of trees and a road . If I remenber well a guy hit a lorry while attempting to land on an airfield , that was in Hungary .
Have you ever had problems with landowners when landing out? What about when you are abroad? Love your videos.
At my gliding club in germany we recommend to have a bit of cash on you when you want to fly larger distances. So if the landowner shows up, you just give him a few bucks so he can buy some beer ^-^;;
Gliders are so light can't imagine they do that much damage. In the US we have a tradition of getting our crops insured against things like forced landings. Especially farmers that hire crop dusters (:
@@lemonator8813 i also can imagine that on gliders insurance covers the crop damage^^ checked it and it does
@Luxaly good to know! Thankyou! I just have my PPL SEL, can't wait to get in a glider sometime tho
@@lemonator8813 the worst u can do is get scared to outland and try too hard to find a thermal^^ the rule says to be save above 750 AGL u can look for thermals without worring about the ground too much... 750-500 AGL u want to look out on the ground to get into a spot with good options while still looking for thermals 500-300 AGL select a field u can land on and check it out if its save to land on (keep looking for thermals arround the selected field) under 300 dont look for any thermals fly your standard pattern do landing checklist and land (numbers in meters)(depending on terrain etc. this numbers change) personally i think its good to have a lookout for possible fields at any time...
Every glider landing focuses the mind. An outlanding *really* focuses the mind but the brain can be a wonderful thing when it has to be ;-)
So true!
Smooth, sweet landings, all! I think you're the master of greasers, Stefan! Outlandings or not.
I'm glad to see you making a nice long, high stabilized approach with no low turns. Also, it looks like your are keeping your turns very coordinated. Thank you for posting these videos.
Cooles Video! Vielen Dank fürs Zeigen und Mitnehmen.
Here in Southern California, we have mountains and deserts. Landing on a paved road will involve the FAA. Even if you find a dirt road it will be washboard and lined with scrub. So, we don't land out as if it were a less desirable equivalent. Even when I trained in Illinois, we were never so casual about it.
What are the consequences of an outlanding in the states? It seems like it could be necessary depending on conditions, but should be avoided at all costs. The potential damage to public or private property seems high as well. I don't have any aviation experience, but I'm curious as to the procedure if one is necessary.
@@yeezusjesus7617 im not from the US but i think that there are not much consequences other than paperwork if the FAA wants it... any damage u cause is covered by insurance like if u have no other spot than a fully grown corn field... outlanding can happen to the best pilots...
Thanks Stefan, watching others outlanding is very educational!
Very nice video, the last outlanding very awesome flying with left hand trying to the last second not increase drag with the landing gear. Good winds😎
Great compilation and glad that all those outlandings turned out well.
It would be interesting (and perhaps funny) to see the reaction of the owners when they see you landed in their field or near their house 😅
Happy end of 2022 !
We try to do as little damage as possible, and I never found an unpleased owner . Once the owner asked "why you did not land on this other field where there is no crop yet", and I answered "there are trees at the beginning of the other field. And that's it. Also we do have insurance to cover damage if any.
👍all great greasers of a landing, loverly stuff. I liked the last one which at 5”26” ish gave the illusion of the glider tracking to port at a high rate of knots 🤣 probably didn’t look like that in real life !
4:33 This one was very smooth !
Outstanding outlandings!
2:24 it sounds like you bass boosted it 😂
Da hatte ich auf der schwäbischen Alb schon kürzere Außenlandefelder 😊
LS3 landings are smoother because of the suspended landing gear .
I preferred your first outlanding. It's much easier to call for a rerieval if there's a house nearby and the farmer might even offer you a snack and a drink while you wait.
Tell him the truth and offer to pay for any damage. I usually landed in stubble but I knew a man who had landed in scrub and heard of another pilot who allegedly landed in a vineyard.
I suppose a vineyard would be pricey since the same grapevines are used year after year. I own a farm that grows wheat and a glider landing in a wheat field before it headed out would be pretty much no damage except for where the tires lay the plant down but surrounding plants will take advantage of no competition and producing more offsetting any damage. Only time real damage would be if it’s late in the year and close to harvest season but I imagine a pilot wouldn’t want to land in a field with waist high wheat. Even then it couldn’t be more than a few hundred bucks in damage. I wouldn’t be mad or accept any money if a glider landed on my place. Hell I’d be thrilled and set up a date to take me on a flight. 😅
I suppose a vineyard would be pricey since the same grapevines are used year after year. I own a farm that grows wheat and a glider landing in a wheat field before it headed out would be pretty much no damage except for where the tires lay the plant down but surrounding plants will take advantage of no competition and producing more offsetting any damage. Only time real damage would be if it’s late in the year and close to harvest season but I imagine a pilot wouldn’t want to land in a field with waist high wheat. Even then it couldn’t be more than a few hundred bucks in damage. I wouldn’t be mad or accept any money if a glider landed on my place. Hell I’d be thrilled and set up a date to take me on a flight. 😅
@@wormhole331 😀
Wunderschöne Aufnahmen!
Vielen Dank!
The optical illusion at 5:20 is awesome... looks like you are going sideways, because you fly not parallel to the lines on the ground ;)
That confused me too for a second
Looks quite interesting, probably because the camera is not pointing straight ahead.
@@Blast-Forward no, the lines on the ground are just not orientated in flight direction
Amazing flying, great job!
I did a summer job in France driving the van for a hot air balloon company.
I understand that safety is paramount, and sometimes you've got no choice, like in a balloon.
How short can you stop?
Your landing in the yellow film with your friend filming looks like less than 50 metres?...
Cheers, stay safe.
Manny
UK
Part of your flight training is to demonstrate repeatedly landing maximal 200 m behind of the marked aiming point, and never before. Experienced pilot do it regularly within 100 m or less
How often do you end up having to land this way? Is it more common or a big exception?
03:30 Outlanding meet-up? :)
Awesome recordings, thanks.
Just a normal competition day 🤣
Good work and again a statement that we ought to have separate classes for badges&competitions 😇 flying a engine fitted glider gives you a operational and psychological advantage especially flying for records or badges
Not really. In competitions you also have the advantage that your glider is lighter if the conditions are very weak. And the psychological factor should not be a big problem, because you always should have a field for outlanding even if you are flying with a sustainer or motor. At least for me it is not a big disadvantage in competitions and for badges. For free flights and travel by glider adventures it truly is a big advantage, especially a self-launch glider.
@@SteFly Dear Stefan,
I do agree that motor gliders are the perfect tool for exploring soaring adventures and XC teaching.
But I did a lot of competition gliding in the past and noticed the difference many times when out of 6 competition days 4 where out landings and when you get home every night close to midnight you are more fatigued than those who came back at seven in the evening and had more rest time.
Also with an engine there are more tempted to go further sometimes over not very outlandable terrain even if you always should have the outlanding field within reach.
It’s the always recurring debate and too often we have to agree that we disagree ☺️
After 45 years of flying and gliding and more than 20000 hours combined I am still learning everyday the most important license to have is the license to learn.
By the way what would You choose; the JS3 or the AS 33?
I am looking for a retirement present in one year 😃
Regards and with respect for your knowledge and expertise
Frank
Not always you will have enough space to make such a "kiss landing". The aim is to "touch as fast as possible", the end of the field is coming rapidly. And there might be a hole or a stone you have not seen.
Imagine you live in farm,taking potatoes in field,and this guy land here.These Gliders are cool.
Oh tractors with wings
Question .. how are these gliders later recovered, helicopter?
You can derig the wings and horizontal stabilizer, then you put all parts in a big trailer. Not so difficult and usually we also store the gliders in the trailer when we are not at a competition
@@SteFly thank you for your reply! 😁
@@SteFly If your tow vehicle can't get into the field (too boggy, too rough for the vehicle's ground clearance, etc), then how do you get the bits to the trailer? I presume you have to push the glider? Is that really hard on rough ground?
I'll stick to paragliding.
Pack up and hitchhike home
lol
Cooles Video! Können die Flugzeuge bei so holprigen Landungen kaputt gehen bzw. Schäden entstehen?
Mein weiß nie zu 100% wie die Bodenbeschaffenheit dann am Ende wirklich ist. Dabei kann schon etwas kaputt gehen. Ich hatte bei meinen über 30 Außenlandungen noch keinen größeren Schaden verursacht. Nur kleine Lackschäden 😅
I'd love to know a bit more about the last one where you looked like you you needed every bit of glide angle (I assumed that was the gear going down right before landing?). Great compilation and a nice reminder of a hobby I no longer do.
You are supposed to put the landing gear down well before the final glide !
@@williamsocrate7714 many, many years ago when I flew gliders, I remember an exceptionally marginal final glide in a Pilatus during a comp. I was picking fields the whole way. I dropped the gear at about 6 feet, bled off all the speed (I was only doing 50kts so didn’t take long!), and rolled over the finish line. In my old age now I wonder on the wisdom but it gives me a very fun memory 😂 Of course there was a lot of twiddling of the John Williamson plastic final glide calculator and map reading/measurement on the way in. I suspect gliders these days have all this electronically.
@@Retset Long time ago, I did an outlanding in the Southern Alps. It was a lavander field. All went well. I step out the glider, and there, at 50 cm from the wheel, I saw a hug stone, 1/2 m size and almost 1/2 m high. I still shudder !
@@williamsocrate7714 Wowee - lady luck was on your side that day! I look back at lots of what i did in my youth in planes, gliders and cars and the whole lot makes me shudder ;)
If you can land a glider you can land anyting. Because it is a One-Shot landing. You either get it right or you don't.
Passiert das offt, dass man außerhalb landen muss? Der Gedanke ist schon etwas erschreckend^^^
PS: Wie sieht das dann Kosten Technisch aus, denke nicht jeder ist happy wenn man auf seinem Feld landet...
Which outlanding was the sketchiest?
Definitiv die Letzte 🤣 allein wie dich der Wind gedrückt hat 🙆🏽
I think your suggestion when you come to a halt on the last one tells a lot of the story.
To my mind, the first one. Sketchy is a relative term, though. They were all perfectly acceptable (and I am certainly no expert!).
You know the last one was............. but you missed out a lot of the low down scratching around in the above video..... and the late decision to commit to landing. Committing to putting the gear down and changing hands on the stick at less than 50ft agl is definitely sketchy, although to be fair most of the fields there looked good...... but we all do foolish things, hopefully we live to learn from them....
Wasn't the last one your no airbrake outlanding?
Do you keep a reserve of kinetic energy to give some margin of safety when landing?
We always keep some speed as a margin of safety on landing, outlanding or not
Ever have front wheel damage?
Safe landings after engine failure.. Great
I am trying to find information on the aircraft shown in the video, specifically the propulsion system being used. Maybe I am blind but I cannot seem to figure out what the aircraft are. Is it Paratec? When I go to their website it looks like they just sell parachutes.
Can someone help me out here?
It's an ASG 29 without an Engine, the Plane is launched either by a Winch or towed by another Plane, it the stays in the Air using Updrafts and Thermals.The other one is an LS3 and the last one is a Glasflügel 201B Libelle
Rolladen-Schneider LS-3, Schleicher ASG-29, Glasflügel Libelle; all sail planes (gliders). They have *no* propulsion, hence sail planes 😉. When Thermal lift dies you cannot gain height to continue your flight, and without an airport in gliding reach you simply land on a suitable farmer‘s field.
@@kaihorstmann2783 unless you have ridge, convergence, thermodynamic or wave lift of course............ not all of us rely solely on thermals.....
@@soaruk3697 I simplified things a bit in my answer since the TO seemingly did not even know the concept of engine-less soaring. 🙃
@@kaihorstmann2783 Then just say 'when the lift dies'.............
Do you always listen to the Clangers when flying? 😀
Wie viele Außenlandungen hast du schon gemacht?
Ich schätze so ca. 30 Stück
Dumb question…how do you get the glider off the property?
No dumb question. Better to ask instead of not to ask 🙂
Your friends from your glider community come with a trailer and bring the glider and you back to the airfield.
🙂👍
What's the leaver on the left do
Airbrakes or spoilers. That's how I can adjust my sink rate
How do you recognise from the air when a field isn't going to be boggy or rough as hell?
Knowing common features of fields and judgement from the experience then again you can never be 100% sure.
Tipically, fields that have grass that has been recently mowed as very safe, but you do need to know how to recognize fields from the air.
I am wondering Is there a glider course that teach pilots how to recognize fields from the air? @@Nico9472_
Do you all own your own gliders? I mean people that fly them in general... I know nothing about gliders and will never have the money to, just curious. And once you land in a field like that, how do you recover the gliders??
No, you can borrow them in a club. Here in Germany we pay about 12 - 18€ per hour.
After an outlanding someone needs to pick you up by trailer.
@@SteFly it's more expensive here in England 🏴 for a driving lesson. That's really good!
BTW you are all absolutely crazy, it makes me physically sweat watching. Excellent vids!
@@SteFly Amazing ! It is way cheaper than other countries!
And now what? Transport has to pick you up, derig and remove wings etc. Soundls like a ball-ache! SLMG seems much more sensible 😁
title: well...with a glider you always have one landing try, doesn't matter if it is on the runway or out.🙂
Taking off is optional, landing is required!
@@rdj2938 👍🏻👍🏻😄😄
Last one looks to have crosswind ?
wo war das ?
Neuer Flughafen :D
how hard can it be to hit the ground
Pretty easy, but you must hit it softly, which isn’t too hard either when you get the hang of it
PAURA 🤯
Bad landings footage reasonably weren't recovered
What’s in his left hand? Airbrake?
Yes, airbrakes 👍
A little late on the landing gear on the last one...
Ottima manovra!!!!👍👍👍👍
War wohl nix mit Thermik
Naaah. I would have gone around.
Hauptsache das Vario dudelt bis zum Boden. 😶
I like it but I don't
Surely it's only safe to fly this near a big open field or runway you've been given permission to land on. I don't like the thought of flying in something without it's own motor.
@@harrychalcraft6371 It’s completely understandable especially when flying in mountains perhaps, but when you’re flying in places like in this video there’s nothing to worry about, outlanding in places like these is almost just like landing at an airfield, the difference is that you have to wait for someone to come pick you up
Clickbait! ;)
These are gliders, it doesn't matter if you are landing at the field or not - always one try.
Warum nur auf Englisch? Die meisten Segelflieger sprechen Deutsch!
Aber nur knapp 10% meines Publikums versteht Deutsch ;)
@@SteFly Dann mach doch Deutsch und dein Publikum wird es zu 90% verstehen und größer sein!
Dudes you're supposed to dust those fields not land on them.
Ok, so, where should we land? In the trees? Better have to clean the glider after an outlanding than having to replace it
First!!!
Based on this compilation looks like Germans are not the best in gliding
No, outlandings are joust part of gliding
Perhaps you should consider another hobby?
Why? 😂
@@SteFly 🤣
@@stefansoder6903yes Why ☺️
You can avoid this altogether.Get an engine!
Do you have 30 - 50k € you would like to invest in my glider? :D
Ever heard about money?
Do you have to pay the farmer?
Moast of us are inshured
der steuerknüppel ist kein kochlöffel, den man ständig hin und her rührt, auch nicht bei einer aussenlandung. lass dem flugzeug zeit auf die steuerimpulse zu reagieren.
Leichter gesagt als getan. Beim effizienten Thermik fliegen und Vorliegen ist das deutlich wichtiger.
Aber ja, ist unnötig.
Why not more airbrake and steeper final and then full airbrake after last threes? The nose down late is not good for beginners.
Some years ago I nearly crashed into a house at an outlanding because I had too much energy and could only stop with a ground loop. That’s why I personally prefer to have not the steepest final glide.
In the first clip it’s true that it was quite flat with not so much airbrake.
Depending on the glider it’s very important to lower the nose if you use more airbrake and especially with the uphill landing you also need to carry some more speed.
If I would need to land there again, I would make the final glide slightly shorter to be a little bit higher.
But you only have one shot and need to estimate the height 😉