SUPERMAN (1978-1987) 5 Disc 4K Blu-Ray Collection Review

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  • Опубліковано 28 кві 2023
  • SUPERMAN (1978-1987) 5 Disc Collection Review
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  • @adamoconnor8964
    @adamoconnor8964 Рік тому +19

    Nothing better than hearing Oliver talking about the Superman films

  • @tur74d56
    @tur74d56 Рік тому +82

    They should of had the TV Cuts instead and the long lost full version of 4 , maybe then it would be worth the high price

    • @dragondaveltd1992
      @dragondaveltd1992 Рік тому +8

      And they should have watch the dude who did the amazing job on new effects on Superman 4 than the god-awful effects on its Theatrical release

    • @movieflicktube
      @movieflicktube Рік тому +6

      Depends if Warner ever find these extended cuts in their vaults . Superman The Movie extended cut was found by a pure fluke . This was confirmed by the podcast made by the team making the release possible . Warner Archive would love to release these cuts if ever found

    • @idiedforthisproductions
      @idiedforthisproductions Рік тому +2

      This is actually pretty well priced for what the set is 4K and Blu-ray release are expensive right now but if you're a collector that actually wants to see a future for physical media the pricing is for the greater good.

    • @andys8483
      @andys8483 Рік тому +8

      As bad as the fourth Superman film is,...I would def be interested in watching the extended cut 🦸👍

    • @enjoyyoursleep1
      @enjoyyoursleep1 Рік тому +3

      agree. I'll pass on this release, for the lack of the inclusion of extended superman 4.

  • @Vaporvice84
    @Vaporvice84 Рік тому +34

    Agreed about the tv edit of S2. If they remastered and released that version of the film, the fan editing floodgates would burst like a dam, lol. There IS a good movie there somewhere between the 2 (or 3) cuts of the film, but sadly, with Donner's passing and Lester having disappeared off the face of the Earth, it'll probably never happen.

    • @dbreiden83080
      @dbreiden83080 Рік тому +6

      2 is great movie as is with some flaws.. I accepted Superman 2 theatrical cut as the definitive version a long time ago, and frankly the Donner cut was so sloppy it should have stayed in the WB vaults..

    • @Vaporvice84
      @Vaporvice84 Рік тому +9

      @@dbreiden83080 TV broadcast will always be my "official" version, as it's the version I grew up on. It's got a lot of the "unseen" Donner footage already (minus the Brando stuff) except it's better takes and better background music. Take that version, add Brando back in, remove the Lester slapstick (which the Donner cut does one thing right, at least) and there you have it: the perfect version of Superman 2 (although I'd love to see some new things added to fill in some gaps).

    • @bigredjanie
      @bigredjanie Рік тому +3

      I hope Selutron's fan edit can surface in full at some point, even incomplete it's the closest to a definitive S2 edit.

    • @Vaporvice84
      @Vaporvice84 Рік тому +2

      @@bigredjanie Glad to hear people still remember that guy. I discovered his channel literally weeks after the Donner Cut was released in 2006 and it's what got me into fan editing. I've seen probably 30 different fan edits of Superman 2, as well as taken cracks at it myself. Only a small handful of editors come anywhere close to what Selutron was able to accomplish.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland Рік тому +2

      @@bigredjanie it even got positive reviews from both Tom Mankiewicz and Richard Donner. So whoever he is, the guy knew what he was doing.

  • @obviouspresmaga
    @obviouspresmaga Рік тому +36

    Warner never fails... to disappoint

    • @thedys70
      @thedys70 Рік тому +7

      One job... they had ONE JOB...

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 10 місяців тому +2

      @@thedys70and they BLEW it!

    • @thedys70
      @thedys70 10 місяців тому

      @@darthkurland Indeed they BLEW it - HARD!

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 7 місяців тому +1

      @@thedys70”Of course you know THIS MEANS WAR!!!!” - Bugs Bunny

    • @thedys70
      @thedys70 7 місяців тому +1

      @@darthkurland "Warner season..." - Bugs Bunny & Daffy Duck

  • @DamnFoolIdealisticCrusader
    @DamnFoolIdealisticCrusader Рік тому +13

    I’m glad you did a rundown of the issues discovered so far as most other so called reviewers haven’t or acted as if they were unimportant. This is really slipshod work from Warner as usual except on a grander scale. The price point is too high and errors like this shouldn’t be supported in spite of otherwise great new scan.
    Losing the 70mm of I alone is a reason to reject this along with keeping the original 4k master when it was supposed to be replaced by a redone version.
    The errors in the sequels are inexcusable. Once again this is a moment where the Warner Archive division should be put in charge of the main studio label.
    I’m extremely glad you mentioned the Batman 4K issues. Those drive me insane and the teal in Returns is hideous especially. The otherwise fantastic new scans are further ruined by the lack of original audio in any form.
    It’s almost as if the team behind the flawed DCAU releases was let loose on this Superman set!!

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 7 місяців тому +2

      It seems to me like WB ultimately released an unfinished product. But the Warner Archive label actually goes the extra mile for their releases.

  • @KonElKent
    @KonElKent Рік тому +10

    Respectfully, there is one comment here that I strongly disagree with; I think that physical media is about to have a major resurgence relative to streaming. First, the exclusivity of streaming platforms is taking away their economic advantage of streaming over cable and satellite services. Second, people are learning that as Streamers giveth they also taketh away; even in cases where an album, movie, or show is fully purchased and saved to a private queue they've become no longer available. Well, the studio doesn't come to your door demanding you relinquish your discs. First we're going to see second hand prices go up, then the studios will take notice and dust off the DVD and Blu-ray making machines.

    • @lancebaylis3169
      @lancebaylis3169 Рік тому +5

      I hope this is true. Something wonderful will be lost the day we can no longer buy physical media.

    • @Possum880
      @Possum880 Рік тому +3

      I think you’re absolutely right, I think people think pessimistically about physical media these days is because 4K has been kind of a letdown. As someone who has a 4K setup I admit I didn’t need it, the jump from FHD to 4k isn’t worth the cost for entry. The players, the discs, and TVs haven’t had a noticeable price reduction like blu rays did back during the height of that platform, and pair that with tons of sub par 4K releases, people are rightfully disappointed. But I agree with everything you said Physical is only going to grow as time goes on just look at vinyl

  • @Cotygeek
    @Cotygeek Рік тому +20

    I caught the new 4k remaster on the big screen with my son. I've seen that movie 50 times throughout my life on VHS, DVD, and Blu Ray and I ca honestly say it was like I had never seen (or heard) it before.

    • @flexydex8754
      @flexydex8754 Рік тому

      2160p*

    • @SumDumGy
      @SumDumGy Рік тому +2

      Damn. I just watched the film in the theater a couple weeks ago and it was clearly not the 4K remaster.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland Рік тому +1

      @@SumDumGy if it was, it was probably the 2018 4K master.

    • @SumDumGy
      @SumDumGy Рік тому

      @@darthkurland From how it looked to me, I doubt it was any remaster at all. If it was, I’m sure it predates that one.

  • @SteveBrant55
    @SteveBrant55 Рік тому +12

    Thank you for pointing out all the errors / mistakes of judgement Warner Bros has made with this set. Wow! What a mess!

    • @dbreiden83080
      @dbreiden83080 Рік тому +3

      They obviously think four is a piece of trash, I love it as a great piece of nostalgic memory. But why would you bother remastering the movie and let the music not syncing up just pass on by like it’s no big deal? It’s ridiculous.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 10 місяців тому +1

      @@dbreiden83080I already spoke to the guy who restored the film’s score for CD and he was horrified by what Warner Bros did.

  • @dvdmike007
    @dvdmike007 Рік тому +19

    For the cost and the hype, there are way too many issues for a release that should have been definitive and archival

    • @dbreiden83080
      @dbreiden83080 Рік тому +3

      They should have put out the finished version of Superman 4, the 2 plus hour cut during Covid. It is a trainwreck all fans have been wanting to see since like 2000..

    • @200wattstudio8
      @200wattstudio8 Рік тому +2

      Just like the Rocky set

    • @gokhanersan8561
      @gokhanersan8561 Рік тому +1

      Agreed. They simply boxed low-budget editing efforts into this package. Until WB truly invests on the audio-visual remastering of these movies, I will stay away from buying them.

    • @DIMEDAMAGE
      @DIMEDAMAGE Рік тому

      shitty release just like rocky.damn that sucks

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 10 місяців тому +2

      @@gokhanersan8561which means that whoever is in charge of that department needs to be replaced with someone who actually cares about the content.

  • @mainstreetsaint36
    @mainstreetsaint36 Рік тому +4

    Leave it to WB to cock up what should have been an easy release. There should have been TV extended cuts, proper color correcting, and a proper sound mix.
    They should have gotten notes from Fox with the Alien Box set.

  • @philipcohen7192
    @philipcohen7192 Рік тому +12

    I’m glad the donner cut exists flaws and all

    • @dbreiden83080
      @dbreiden83080 Рік тому +5

      Yeah I saw it in 2006 when it was released and was hyped as hell for it.. Loved it at first and then on further viewing man it is pretty messy. WB spent nickels and dimes on that cut, and it really showed..

    • @philipcohen7192
      @philipcohen7192 Рік тому +3

      @@dbreiden83080 completely agree that it deserved better but it’s pretty crazy we still got it even with its issues. Donner never should have been fired in the first place. Everything I liked about the theatrical cut was donner and every weird addition was Lester. Like the Superman shield that family guy parodied.

    • @dbreiden83080
      @dbreiden83080 Рік тому +3

      @@philipcohen7192
      Lester did some great things too.. The Paris rescue was spectacular and had to WOW audiences in 1981.

    • @Possum880
      @Possum880 Рік тому +3

      I still prefer it to the theatrical cut warts and all. I’ll take a consistent tone and feel that’s in line with the first film with some shoddy special effects over Lester’s annoying tone deaf comedy (I say that with love, I don’t hate it, but the shift to comedy bothers me and clearly was why Superman 3 wasn’t as successful)

    • @thedys70
      @thedys70 Рік тому

      @@philipcohen7192 This is what happens when flogs like Pierre Spengler think they are Hollywood moguls...

  • @paultaylor8548
    @paultaylor8548 Рік тому +10

    Loving your stuff Oliver. Only just found your channel. It’s a treasure trove, thank you

  • @henriklarsson6870
    @henriklarsson6870 Рік тому +9

    I would love to see the alternate cut of Superman 4..

    • @Dohsoda
      @Dohsoda Рік тому +2

      It can only improve it.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland Рік тому +2

      Wouldn’t we all. It depends on whether the original elements still exist.

  • @dtnetlurker
    @dtnetlurker Рік тому +7

    I must be a bit sentimental about Superman IV. My father took me to the theater to see it when I was a kid. I was blown away. Even that being put aside I have always loved it and still do. It doesn't take itself too seriously. It's just good popcorn film fun. Not to mention it is still THE SUPERMAN Christopher Reeve. I like everything he was in no matter how B movie it may be.

    • @dbreiden83080
      @dbreiden83080 9 місяців тому +2

      Same for me. Superman 4 was the only Superman movie I saw at the movies when I was a kid.. My Mom bought me all the 7-11 Collectors Cups that summer.. Sure objectively it is a bad movie. However for me the combo of nostalgia, Chris Reeve, and that fun B movie feel will always make me love it.. Watch it at least once a year..

  • @jonkoh570
    @jonkoh570 Рік тому +6

    Your reviews are just hands down the best.
    I appreciate your continued efforts.
    Much appreciation........ Thank you so much

  • @bee-beargaming
    @bee-beargaming Рік тому +3

    I love how u do reviews for remaster DVDs I wouldn't have known this even existed without ur video so thank you.

  • @deadairconversion
    @deadairconversion Рік тому +10

    Ollie, my brother from another mother- I share your passion for Superman, and grateful for all you do regarding the caped wonder! Warner really is sloppy. Scream, Shout, Arrow and even Paramount do a way better job with their transfers.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 10 місяців тому +1

      The main problem was a lack of quality control in my opinion.

  • @bigredjanie
    @bigredjanie Рік тому +5

    Those individual covers... besides the bad photoshop jobs, I'm surprised they didn't use the logos made from the 2018 soundtrack releases, they were excellent updates that made all the film's logos look more consistent.

  • @walter_the_wobot2349
    @walter_the_wobot2349 Рік тому +6

    I want to see the Oliver Harper cut of Superman 2

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland Рік тому +4

      I’d be curious about how Ollie would have approached it. I hope you’re listening, Mr. Harper.

  • @kierankelleher007
    @kierankelleher007 Рік тому +2

    Brilliant review. Great analysis on the audio in particular. 👏👏👏👏👏

  • @IsaacWhittakerDakin
    @IsaacWhittakerDakin Рік тому +6

    This looks like a great collection! Celebrated Superman's 45th anniversary by catching the 1978 classic on the big screen!

  • @neutral6941
    @neutral6941 Рік тому +13

    Christopher Reeve played the best SuperMan 🦸‍♂️.

    • @Cbriggs502
      @Cbriggs502 Рік тому

      Nah Henry Cavill did 🤷‍♂️

    • @dbreiden83080
      @dbreiden83080 Рік тому +4

      @@Cbriggs502
      Only really starred in 1 movie.. The rest were team up BS or a waste of time..
      Chris good or bad played this role for a decade in solo movies.. He was and is still the greatest Superman of them all..

    • @Cbriggs502
      @Cbriggs502 Рік тому

      @@dbreiden83080 Man of Steel Batman V Superman Ultimate Edition and Zack Snyder's Justice League >>>>>>>>>> Christopher Reeves Superman 1-4

    • @dbreiden83080
      @dbreiden83080 Рік тому

      @@Cbriggs502
      In regards to Henry, you only listed one superman movie.

    • @Bale4Bond
      @Bale4Bond Рік тому +1

      Henry Cavill was a decent Superman that was forced to appear in some god awful films.

  • @raisedonfiction
    @raisedonfiction Рік тому +4

    The steelbook set is physically amazing. I'm happy to own it but I'm disappointed WB left so many opportunities for upgrades down the line. I'm sure they will release a collector's edition of the first film for another anniversary.

  • @dbreiden83080
    @dbreiden83080 11 місяців тому +2

    The 4K version of this movie and all the movies are now on MAX. The picture is definitely better than ever as are some of the sound effects. But as noted the soundtrack is really off in a lot of places. Looks like Warner Bros. has no intention of fixing this since they are now streaming it on their service..

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 10 місяців тому +1

      Then someone needs to shove this video into their faces.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 5 місяців тому +1

      Well, someone needs to bring it to their attention because I don’t want to have my ears assaulted as well.

    • @dbreiden83080
      @dbreiden83080 5 місяців тому

      @@darthkurland
      I am sure they know.. This is obviously the official version of the movie now as far as they are concerned. It actually has a sharper image and better sound than Superman Returns.. Sad as that is..

  • @gogeta492
    @gogeta492 Рік тому +2

    I love how people are assuming warner archive will release these alternate cuts when they couldn't even be bothered to put the international cut of supergirl on their bluray which WA released not WHE

  • @ChuckM0503
    @ChuckM0503 Рік тому +4

    One gripe I have with this set is they should have used that extra case that houses the pointless collectibles as a separate case for the Donner cut. Three films have the original artwork on the front, with the S and corresponding roman numeral on the back. Not Superman II, though, as that has the original theatrical poster on one side, and the artwork for the Donner cut on the other. Such an asinine decision that just makes no sense.

  • @SkyShazad
    @SkyShazad Рік тому +3

    I remmmeber watching The Donner Cut of Superman 2 when it first came out, I thought it was Extremly Poorly Executed in the Edit Room,, That movie alone needs a Re-Edit with a Better Editor seriously

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 5 місяців тому +1

      The only editor who should have been directly involved with this project is Stuart Baird, who also edited the first film.

  • @darthkurland
    @darthkurland 5 місяців тому +2

    Oliver,
    I think it’s time for WB to entrust their vintage library to their Warner Archive label, because they actually put in the extra effort, time and money into their releases.

  • @godinacape
    @godinacape Рік тому +5

    Another overlooked: why does the special edition of Superman 1 didn't get a 4k transferred?

    • @movieflicktube
      @movieflicktube Рік тому +2

      Probably waiting for the ultimate release in 2028 for 50th anniversary

    • @godinacape
      @godinacape Рік тому

      @@movieflicktube They should have done it now... While most of the buyers and fans are still alive and kicking... There's no reason if you can do the Donner Cut but you can't do the Special Edition

  • @PapiGeek
    @PapiGeek Рік тому

    Excellent review with amazing details and a great comprehension of the problem in these issues of Superman movies. Thanks again for such an inspired work.

  • @darthkurland
    @darthkurland 5 місяців тому +1

    In the Donner Cut of “Superman II,” the rocket was actually a miniature built by Derek Meddings, but I will say that the composite didn’t look very convincing.

  • @darthkurland
    @darthkurland Рік тому +1

    At least, they should have had the same color timer for all titles in this set. For the 2011 Blu-Ray release, that person was a gentleman named Pat Miller.

  • @movieflicktube
    @movieflicktube Рік тому +3

    Superman The Movie has a higher average bit rate than the 2018 edition , and the reason for dropping one of the sound mixes

  • @KadeBronson
    @KadeBronson Рік тому +2

    It's weird how his costume changes color between the different versions.

  • @sash9249
    @sash9249 Рік тому +4

    Great review! Shame to learn about the sound issues. I've ordered mine from UK, so hopefully Warner get a lot of feedback and fix these problems.

  • @HendersonProductions2
    @HendersonProductions2 11 місяців тому +1

    Yep, these are also on the Max streaming service. I was honestly laughing hard with the complete bouched-up music cues of Superman IV, and I'm shocked that Warner Bros let this slide, even though I shouldn't be shocked. XD I love Alexander's score as much as the next fan does, so it is embarrassing to see this happen.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 11 місяців тому +1

      If you ask me, Warner Bros needs to start over. Certainly, when it comes to the music elements of “Superman IV.”

  • @Stansman63
    @Stansman63 Рік тому +6

    Please release the TV cut of Superman 2!

    • @thedys70
      @thedys70 Рік тому

      have you managed to find it on the internet yet?

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 5 місяців тому

      The only problem with the version circulating on the internet is that it’s not in its original widescreen aspect ratio. The deleted scenes on the DVD/Blu-Ray are in widescreen.

  • @loftlegacy
    @loftlegacy Рік тому +9

    I went to see it at the cinema the other week for its 45th anniversary/Warner’s 100th anniversary.
    It was like 2 films. A huge amount of film grain and looked quite muddy during the composite shots. However Brando in his reflective costume looked great.
    Once Cal got to Earth it was a lovely watch… first time at the cinema since aged 5 in 1978!!!

  • @Possum880
    @Possum880 Рік тому +4

    Dang that’s pretty scathing for the Donner cut, I still prefer it over the theatrical cut even with its imperfections. I’m honestly most annoyed with Superman Returns being omitted, I’ve been dying for a new transfer of that film and if it’s been shelved because of Singer and Spacey that’s frustrating. What they did is abhorrent and wrong but I’m able to separate the art from the artist. Here’s hoping that we get a 4K of Superman returns and Supergirl soon

  • @Fiveash-Art
    @Fiveash-Art Рік тому +2

    I'll stick to my dvd box set they released right after Superman Returns

  • @78.BANDIT
    @78.BANDIT Рік тому +9

    Ill stay with my Blu-rays of this.

    • @dbreiden83080
      @dbreiden83080 Рік тому +2

      I am on the fence.. I wanted to get a new version of Superman 4, only to find out they butchered the audio tracks..

  • @jehad78
    @jehad78 Рік тому +1

    Wonderful review thanks for the detailed information. I'm still buying this because Christopher Reave was my childhood Superman.

  • @joshuamarks4425
    @joshuamarks4425 Рік тому +6

    I worry about what will come of WB's home release division with Zaslav's further cost cutting to the entire company. And what you've described in this review is concerning, especially for what's supposed to be a prestige anniversary release.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 10 місяців тому +1

      Zaslav and James Gunn really need to do their homework regarding these classic films.

    • @joshuamarks4425
      @joshuamarks4425 10 місяців тому

      @@darthkurland Really, it's the latter if we're being honest. Zaslav doesn't care about film history or preservation as long as he can continue dismantling WB bit by bit in order to save more pennies.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 5 місяців тому

      @@joshuamarks4425that’s the main reason why he needs to be removed from his position.

  • @rubeng370
    @rubeng370 Рік тому +2

    I just finished watching the movie for the first time and much of what you said in your retrospective... you were correct that anyone can be surprised how good it is, emotional, and fun. I really enjoyed it 😅

  • @andriygriffin4782
    @andriygriffin4782 Рік тому +4

    Very concerned about Warner’s upcoming Enter the Dragon 4K now…

  • @APRICEPRODUCTION
    @APRICEPRODUCTION Рік тому +3

    Hopefully one day and still believe I'll get to restore Superman IV original cut properly :)

    • @dbreiden83080
      @dbreiden83080 Рік тому +3

      I hope so.. It is the last piece of the Chris Reeve legacy of Superman movies we have yet to get our hands on..

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland Рік тому +2

      I just hope that the original elements still exist. Otherwise, it’s not worth the effort.

    • @dbreiden83080
      @dbreiden83080 Рік тому +3

      @@darthkurland
      Sydney J Furie said he delivered a finished 2 plus hour cut of Superman 4 to Cannon and WB so unless it got tossed out, it is still sitting in the WB vaults..

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland Рік тому +2

      @@dbreiden83080 then Warner Bros needs to start digging in the vaults to try and find the damn thing.

  • @matthewgaudet4064
    @matthewgaudet4064 Рік тому +1

    I wanted Supergirl and Superman Returns to be included. And new transfers on all the Blu-Ray discs. The 70mm version as well.

  • @Bisaju2
    @Bisaju2 Рік тому +2

    I like this trend of releasing tv cuts in nice quality "king kong"(1976) and lewis teagues entertaining 1980 monster movie "alligator" having hd presentations. By the way my 2006 dvds no longer work. All freeze up in the middle same with most 2007 Warner dvd releases. I think it was some factory defect. There is a youtube video that talks about it. So I wasn't the only one. If I wanted to see an open matte 300 for example I may be out of luck.

  • @mcgillaz3672
    @mcgillaz3672 Рік тому +3

    Bummer about all this. I was burned by the issues (which still remain uncorrected) on the Rocky 4K set, so I cancelled my Superman 4K set. For the price, the issues are pretty unacceptable. Not sure what is going on with QA in studios like Warner. Pretty sad, especially when you consider this is part of their 100th Anniversary collection.

    • @davidjames579
      @davidjames579 Рік тому +4

      The studio has just been taken over by Discovery, so maybe nobody was watching over the discs, or Discovery aren't interested in committing to a project set up by AT&T.

  • @ronsabol3424
    @ronsabol3424 Рік тому +2

    1000% agree about wanting a Superman II TV edition dvd. I love that version

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland Рік тому +1

      I’m pretty sure that the TV Cut of “Superman II” exists in widescreen. Where do you think the deleted scenes came from?

  • @KennethKralyJr
    @KennethKralyJr Рік тому

    Great review Oliver can't wait to get my 4K UHD Blu-Ray Disc Steelbooks Box Set of The Superman 5 Five Collection 1978-1987 in the U.S. on May 9th ! Man this is gonna be good ❤❤❤🥰🥰🥰

  • @NiceGuyAidey
    @NiceGuyAidey Рік тому +1

    I'm glad a kept hold of my 2018 Superman release for the 70mm soundtrack,

  • @Jimmie_Rudolfsson
    @Jimmie_Rudolfsson Рік тому +2

    This saved me some money 👍. I was afraid that the first movie wasn't gonna be a new 4K master and the over use of HDR is so unfortunate.

  • @asifkhan4822
    @asifkhan4822 Рік тому +3

    It's kinda of ironic that none of these movies outside of the first movie have never had the TV cut released of them on DVD or Blu-ray.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland Рік тому +5

      I do know that the TV Cut of “Superman II” was found in its original widescreen aspect ratio, because it was the source for the deleted scenes from the Donner Cut.

  • @bdashby
    @bdashby Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this Olly 👍🏻

  • @cinemalord9055
    @cinemalord9055 Рік тому +2

    I was really looking forward to seeing STM done properly ive bought these movies on VHS ,LD,Dvd,Blu-ray this set isn't cheap cheap cheap

  • @georgeharris9873
    @georgeharris9873 Рік тому +3

    I have all 4 extended tv cuts on recordable d.v.d's. Just wish WARNER would put the other 3 extended versions on blu-ray like they did part 1.

    • @movieflicktube
      @movieflicktube Рік тому +2

      Depends if they locate the cuts . The first film was a fluke find - as confirmed on the podcast made with the team who released it

    • @thedys70
      @thedys70 Рік тому +2

      George; sourced from the internet from digitized VHS rips I presume?

  • @Morgil27
    @Morgil27 Рік тому +1

    I really don't give two shits about technical specifications, like video and audio. I mainly just care about special features, and if this set has all the same bonuses as my current DVD box set, then I don't see it worth upgrading.

  • @jordanmillraney5481
    @jordanmillraney5481 Рік тому +1

    What WB should have done for Superman IV’s audio is take the soundtrack version of the original score and extend the sound to Dolby Atmos while keeping the integrity of the mix instead of replacing it to sound like a band performing it like you mentioned.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 10 місяців тому +1

      They should have brought in Mike Matessino to help with that process. If there’s anyone alive who knows the score that well, it’s him.

  • @dbreiden83080
    @dbreiden83080 Рік тому +2

    My God nearly 40 years later Superman 4 is still finding ways to get screwed up..
    This movie truly is cursed..

  • @Stelios_75
    @Stelios_75 6 місяців тому

    I own this collection i'm absolutely satisfied with it excellent review! Keep up the good work Oliver!

  • @benbrown4805
    @benbrown4805 Рік тому +2

    Hi Oliver nice video but I wished you had gone on to some details about the extras included on the Superman disks

    • @OliverHarper
      @OliverHarper  Рік тому

      The extras are the same ones from the 2011 blu-rays, nothing new on this new set.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 5 місяців тому

      @@OliverHarperif they were going to include anything else in this set that they haven’t before, what would you recommend?

  • @mx472000
    @mx472000 Рік тому

    Thanks Oliver for the wonderful review. Wish I could afford the 4K releases, but thanks for your review, I'm kind of happy that I can't afford it.

  • @Technoid10
    @Technoid10 Рік тому +2

    So there is no Dolby vision read of the film? Cause on Apple TV It says for both Superman 1-2 Dolby vision and atmos support

    • @OliverHarper
      @OliverHarper  Рік тому +1

      Yeah its strange the sequels are only in HDR on disc but on Apple TV they're showing up with Dolby Vision.

    • @Technoid10
      @Technoid10 Рік тому

      @@OliverHarper maybe it was a mismatch on the physical side and they didn’t release the Dolby vision release but if it were a mistake that’s a bad one on WB

  • @nathancruz9172
    @nathancruz9172 Рік тому

    I only have 4 film favorites Superman collection on 📀, while I got the first 2 Superman movies with extended cut on blu ray disc.

  • @WhatHoSnorkers
    @WhatHoSnorkers Рік тому

    Excellent work sir!

  • @KalEl290
    @KalEl290 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this, Oliver. Your edit work on the intro montage was especially awesome this time around. I’ve been looking forward to your review of this set and it was great. Can I ask, when you watch this Superman IV 4K, what will you personally do - persisted with the ATMOS audio and its errors, or revert to the theatrical sound?

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 5 місяців тому +1

      My biggest problem is that the Atmos mix is the only one available on Max. If I wanted to watch it, then I’d have to risk an assault on my eyes and ears.

  • @passthesalt2000
    @passthesalt2000 Рік тому +4

    Great breakdown as usual Oliver. I just got 1 and 2 as 3 and 4 aren’t my favourites and I’m keeping the blu ray set for completion’s sake. This set has a lot missing from it. I like the poster art on the steelbooks though. Some of those glitches are annoying though. I noticed the colour glitch on Christopher Reeve’s title the other day and the pitch wobble in 2. Kind of baffling that discs go out like this without any QA.

  • @rburley204
    @rburley204 Рік тому +1

    For the Donner cut, it's unfortunate about the budget for the added effects. For anyone that has seen the Directors Edition of Star Trek The Motion Picture, will see that it is possible to have top notch effects remastered and redone to modernize the movie. As much as I doubt it will ever happen, it would be amazing if they would revisit and redo the effects for this film.
    In regards to Superman IV, curious if the North American releases have the same audio issues, hence the delay for the North American release?

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 10 місяців тому +1

      Unfortunately, they do. I already complained about it to the man who restored the score for the films, Mike Matessino. And he was genuinely horrified that Warner Bros butchered this release in so many ways.

  • @corbomite1138
    @corbomite1138 Рік тому +1

    The extended of the first movie was Donners intent. I’d like to see a Proper transfer of that.

    • @OliverHarper
      @OliverHarper  Рік тому +1

      Donner's intent was the theatrical cut. The longer cut from 2001 is just called the Special Edition.

    • @corbomite1138
      @corbomite1138 Рік тому +1

      @@OliverHarper interesting. I remember an interview he said that the studio wanted it shorter. I think he said it was already out of his hands as he already left the “projects” I’m sure he said the 2001 version was the one he intended. He hates the 3 hour version WB put out of course.

  • @jorgezarco9269
    @jorgezarco9269 Рік тому +1

    The U.S. Flag is called the "American flag". It's red, white and blue. It has 50 stars on it.

  • @jonmake9124
    @jonmake9124 Рік тому

    Great review as always, too bad they didn't make some new extras or something? it kinda sucks they just threw in the old Bluray's from the anthology set, oh well, I have no doubt WB will double dip again with another Superman film set. WB 4k sets from what I have been hearing in reviews seem to mostly have audio issues for some reason these days.

  • @jasonregina13
    @jasonregina13 Рік тому +2

    Ehhh I just want WB to release separate 4K UHD copies of Superman II and the Donner Cut here in America. Idk if I'd pay for the standard boxset coming next month since I already have Superman I on 4K (despite the flawed presentation) and absolutely detest III & IV. Also, WB should have done a 4K restoration of the special edition cut of Superman I. Although I prefer the theatrical cut, I have fond memories of the extended cut since I watched that version a lot in my youth.

    • @movieflicktube
      @movieflicktube Рік тому +3

      Individual releases of Superman 2 and Superman 2 Donner Cut available from Australia via JB HIFI

    • @thedys70
      @thedys70 Рік тому

      @@movieflicktube Yep, they hit the shelves last week, but Superman 1978 is still the 2018 stock

  • @jorgezarco9269
    @jorgezarco9269 Рік тому

    I recorded Superman the Movie(1978) off Telefutura in 2006. There was a brand new TV spot for the Nintendo Wii. "Plomo" is Spanish/Castellano for "lead".

  • @darthkurland
    @darthkurland Місяць тому

    How did you manage to recreate the opening credits format from the first film for your introduction?

  • @colt5189
    @colt5189 Рік тому +1

    My hope is they at least fix these problems on the digital versions and hopefully put out replacement discs. And yes, those Batman 89 and Returns in 4K was pretty bad with people's skin tone looking like heavy saturated makeup. Really hope a fan out there does a color correction of the 4k that I can download. Kind of like what people do with Star Wars.

  • @LeftHandedGuitarist
    @LeftHandedGuitarist Рік тому

    Am I also right in thinking that the new 4K box set is missing a lot of the special features from the blu-ray anthology set?

  • @zandelscomicsandcards7543
    @zandelscomicsandcards7543 Рік тому

    Sad to hear the news about Superman IV. I ordered the Steelbook collection here in the US. Maybe they will correct the problem over here before it’s released but somehow I doubt they will.

  • @darthkurland
    @darthkurland Рік тому +1

    They should have used the same color correction expert for the entire set.

  • @benflay6038
    @benflay6038 Рік тому

    A great collection 👌 have the ultimate edition 1 and dvd set still happy with

  • @dylanwilson7047
    @dylanwilson7047 Рік тому

    I remember watching the TV extended cut of Superman 3 on UK TV back in the 80s. How come this has never been released?

  • @scottvincent184
    @scottvincent184 Рік тому +2

    Think I'm just gonna stick with my blu ray box set i got many years ago, that one at least tells you exactly what it is 😆

  • @rs52594
    @rs52594 Рік тому +2

    The thing I hate most about all this is that there are no individual releases. I only want Superman 2 because 3 and 4 suck kryptonite but WB has apparently refused to put out individual releases just like back in 2011 and I don't know why.

    • @alexfernandez8083
      @alexfernandez8083 Рік тому

      The UK has individual releases for 1, 3, and 4. Superman 2 comes with the theatrical and Donner cut with a "split" visually slipcover.

  • @g.sferrazza10-13
    @g.sferrazza10-13 Рік тому +1

    So what is the best, most complete, box set purchase at this time? The old Anthology? does that have all the Superman cuts?

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 5 місяців тому +1

      That kind of boxed set doesn’t exist yet. But hopefully, WB will do something like that in time for the first film’s 50th anniversary.

  • @aidanlynn
    @aidanlynn Рік тому +2

    The primary reason why I’m sticking with regular blurays and not upgrading to 4K, too many errors and as you say, constantly changing the films look.

    • @bradenhogan2
      @bradenhogan2 Рік тому

      I did that with the Batman movies, but I’m still upgrading the Superman movies

    • @oranmccann2476
      @oranmccann2476 Рік тому +2

      That is also why I haven't upgraded to 4K or Blu Ray, as they both can mess up the film either by dialing up the colours completely or completely dialing them way down. DVD is still probably the most authentic a movie can look

  • @stuarttacey
    @stuarttacey Рік тому

    What is included in the box set that isn't in the seperate disc releases? It's much cheaper buying them individually rather than the boxset!

  • @antiparrot2483
    @antiparrot2483 Рік тому +1

    What’s your source on a lees experienced colorist handling Superman 2 and a more experienced colorist handling superman 3&4?

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 7 місяців тому +1

      I would have had the more experienced colorist work on all of them.

  • @vykuntapufangtxpreet9546
    @vykuntapufangtxpreet9546 3 місяці тому +1

    14:37 - 14:40 *No.* *They* *Should* *Be* *Presented* *In* *The* *Way* *The* *Director* *Wants* *Them* *To* *Be* *Presented.*

  • @lunaracc914
    @lunaracc914 Рік тому +1

    at least for 4, the original score is available on the included stereo track

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 5 місяців тому +1

      Meaning the original mix from 1987.

  • @whitleybayman123
    @whitleybayman123 Рік тому

    Thanks Oliver

  • @pauloleary1759
    @pauloleary1759 Рік тому +1

    One thing that always annoyed me and nobody ever explained why, at the beginning of Superman 2 is the S yellow with a red background and never corrected.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland Рік тому +1

      That was their call to reverse the colors for the reveal. Purely an artistic decision.

  • @AD-sk3wo
    @AD-sk3wo Рік тому

    I love your intro showing all quadrilogy superman,❤️ best superman portrayal I wanna buy his hot toys❤️

  • @andrewmah2962
    @andrewmah2962 Рік тому

    I didn't know they had a 4K version of these movies

  • @rickytoddbotelho9555
    @rickytoddbotelho9555 Рік тому

    Excellent job. One of the best movies ever ❤

  • @richinderbyshire4779
    @richinderbyshire4779 Рік тому

    Could I have some advice please? I have only just started to buy 4K discs. I have an LG C2 tv and a PS5. I thought the 4K Jaws didnt look as good as the bluray Jaws. Am I better off getting a dedicted 4K player rather than the PS5? Maybe an LG to match...?

    • @DeltaAssaultGaming
      @DeltaAssaultGaming Рік тому

      The PS5 is a fine 4K player.

    • @richinderbyshire4779
      @richinderbyshire4779 Рік тому

      @@DeltaAssaultGaming Thanks. I thought that. Some scenes on Jaws looked awful no matter how I set the tv. The PS5 settings are on the highest res... just strange.

  • @roblatter3347
    @roblatter3347 Рік тому

    I bought these a while ago on Apple TV and now they’re all in Vision & Atmos

  • @harrisonbest8085
    @harrisonbest8085 Рік тому +1

    I wonder why Warner Bros won't make an ultimate cut of Superman 2 and the Donner Cut combined? Honestly, it feels inexcusable that the 2006 visual effects of the Donner Cut have not been updated. Superman Return's color timing is in desperate need of correction. Probably best to keep pushing Warner Bros to make better remasters for these films. For now, I think I will pass on this box set. It's at least good to hear that Superman 3 received a lot of love from this new 4k remaster!

  • @parkerpshebnisky1051
    @parkerpshebnisky1051 Рік тому +1

    Well said Oliver! WB needs to get there act together!🙄

  • @russellkellett9535
    @russellkellett9535 Рік тому +3

    They should of been the extended cuts they wb always give us the ones were already got just different packaging its just wrong

  • @VirajKathwadia
    @VirajKathwadia Рік тому

    I have the Limited Edition 2006 Tin DVD set with 13 Disks. I have double dipped on the 1st film a few times to have the TV cut on bluray and the 4k release. I dunno if I wanna double dip on the other movies..this set purely looks like the movies. I dunno what other special features it is.