your efforts are appreciated and I thank you for taking the time to pass knowledge forward. we have this wonderful vehicle for sharing knowledge with the internet, and all too often the resource is completely squandered.
Yes for sure. You can do it two ways. One is to turn the baler over by hand. To do this, pull the needles back into the home position via the rod that goes from the needle brake to the needles on the right side of the bale chamber. Trip the knotter arm (pull it all the way up) and then rotate flywheel in direction of arrow (counter clockwise). This will tie a slow knot. It helps to have somebody turn the flywheel for you. While it’s tying the knot it’s helpful to pull on the string in the bale chamber to apply tension to it in order for it to help pull off the billhook, otherwise you’ll end up with a big mess on the knotters. The second way is have the baler running at slow speed and trip the knotters to make it tie. You will need to reach in the bale chamber to grab the twine to pull it when it’s knotting so have to be very careful doing this. Do you think it would be helpful if I made a video demonstrating ?
@@TheScientistHayFarmer I would find it very helpful to have a video of the slow-mo knotting. I am trying to get my grandfathers Ford 530 baler to work, one knotter works great but the other doesn’t. I did pick up a few pointers on this video that I’ll try soon! Thanks!
Sure appreciate this video. Just bought a 273 and I’m gonna bale straw next week. I would like to see you do a video on baler maintenance next, grease zerk location and what to lubricate or not. Thanks again, really glad you took the time to do this
People are quick to point out your mistakes but that’s how we learn. Let it roll off and keep doing what you’re doing. Its helpful. I keep a leaf blower with me when In the field and also clean the baler out with it. Works great to cool yourself off too!
People are quick to point out your mistakes but that’s how we learn. Let it roll off and keep doing what you’re doing. Its helpful. I keep a leaf blower with me when In the field and also clean the baler out with it. Works great to cool yourself off too!
People are quick to point out your mistakes but that’s how we learn. Let it roll off and keep doing what you’re doing. Its helpful. I keep a leaf blower with me when In the field and also clean the baler out with it. Works great to cool yourself off too!
People are quick to point out your mistakes but that’s how we learn. Let it roll off and keep doing what you’re doing. Its helpful. I keep a leaf blower with me when In the field and also clean the baler out with it. Works great to cool yourself off too!
Thanks for the direct tutorail. I have a New Holand Super 66 that picked up from a friend. The knotting mechanism looks the same as yours. I will be watching more of your content as hay season is here....and so is the rain!
The knotters have not changed design in a hundred years. It was brilliant for its time and still is. I’ve got a lot of content and always more coming out, especially in the hay season.
Hi, I bought a very old new Holland 273. This was my first year, first time ever making hay. Thanks for all your videos. Sometimes when i engage the pto, I’m getting some rotation in the pto shaft but not the fly wheel. Everything does start to turn eventually. To me it looks like the clutch is slipping. I’m a little nervous about disassembling or adjusting. Have you ever messed with the clutches on your balers? Can you do a video of how to deal with them. Even with the manual I’m hesitant. Don’t want to make it worse!
It does sound like your clutch is just slipping. It's easy to do, you just need to tighten down the bolts going through the springs around it. Go a few turns a time on each bolt and then fire it up and see what it does. You won't make it worse.
My first experience with balding hay was and old international square baler. You should have mentioned that square balers use the bigger twin if not the bale hooks want work good.
I bought my first baler this year and i have baled 750 bales of barley straw. I figured all this stuff out raw before remembering youtube can help me so i looked up some videos and i managed to get it right by pure ass
I used to hay when I was a kid, my foster dad never liked to show me how to do certain things, i guess that made him smarter than me, but I guess it was his way of being fucking stupid. Great video, i learned something. I used to hear people say, I've got to go out and thread the knotter. good show!
I was a foster dad too, except I loved having my foster kid out there with me. I wanted to teach him as much as I could. He still helps me to this day sometimes.
We just finished for the night. A little over 12000 bales in 2 days and that includes having to fish a 7810 and the Barron out of a swamp that was stolen last night and taken for a joy ride
Actually, if we are talking scientifically, that is not the right knot to do. Not right at all. The knot you want to do is probably described in your manual. You make a loop on the end of the twine on the second bale, and a loop on the end of the first bale, and then put that loop over the other one, and put the end of the twine under itself and up through the second loop. In that way the knot will tighten securely and both ends of the twine will point backwards relative to how the twine travels through the guides and knotters. (A square knot is not secure on slick nylon and the ends go out in different directions, running the risk of catching.)
@@TheScientistHayFarmer Well, it doesn't take a scientist to read a manual. And how many agree on a knot does not make it correct. It's just a popular knot. Science by popular vote is a scam.
If there were not consensus in science, there would not be such a thing as consensus statements in infectious diseases, which is the area I work in. If your “science” is telling me that my square knot should not work and yet it does very reproducibly and against a very large n, then your “science” is either junk science or perhaps a square knot is not the “wrong” way to do it, because that would suggest there would be instances of failure for which there are none. So In short, tie whatever knot you’d like, but don’t pretend to be some kind of intellectual about it. From Agco MyFarmLife: According to Brent Miller, AGCO technical service trainer for hay equipment, most producers simply use a square knot for joining balls of twine. “That’s usually adequate for both sisal and plastic twine, as long as it’s pulled tight,” he says. “The important thing is the knot needs to be small enough to pass through the twine tension plates, and the twine tension needs to be adjusted within the specifications listed in the operator’s manual. Since sisal twine is generally larger in diameter than plastic, the tension will need to be adjusted when going from one to the other.”
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You did left over right first but said right over left.
I said it wrong but did it right! Should be left over right and under, right over left and under.
I don't think the baler cares, when I was a kid they just tied a knot like the baler does.
your efforts are appreciated and I thank you for taking the time to pass knowledge forward. we have this wonderful vehicle for sharing knowledge with the internet, and all too often the resource is completely squandered.
Im glad i found your page. Awesome info. Thank you. Just bought my first baler and this is extremely helpful.
You are certainly providing some useful information…thank you for
producing these videos.
Thank for making these videos. Very helpful.
Thank you I was able to fix my bailer with your video thank you so much
Great, timely and simple explanation on the twine tying. Thanks.
Glad you found it helpful. I wanted to get it published before we got too far into haying season.
@@TheScientistHayFarmer are you aware of any method of testing the knotters without running hay through it? Thanks. O
Yes for sure. You can do it two ways. One is to turn the baler over by hand. To do this, pull the needles back into the home position via the rod that goes from the needle brake to the needles on the right side of the bale chamber. Trip the knotter arm (pull it all the way up) and then rotate flywheel in direction of arrow (counter clockwise). This will tie a slow knot. It helps to have somebody turn the flywheel for you. While it’s tying the knot it’s helpful to pull on the string in the bale chamber to apply tension to it in order for it to help pull off the billhook, otherwise you’ll end up with a big mess on the knotters.
The second way is have the baler running at slow speed and trip the knotters to make it tie. You will need to reach in the bale chamber to grab the twine to pull it when it’s knotting so have to be very careful doing this.
Do you think it would be helpful if I made a video demonstrating ?
@@TheScientistHayFarmer I would find it very helpful to have a video of the slow-mo knotting. I am trying to get my grandfathers Ford 530 baler to work, one knotter works great but the other doesn’t. I did pick up a few pointers on this video that I’ll try soon! Thanks!
@@TheScientistHayFarmer yes indeed would be very useful. Thanks.
Make it clear though to folk that they would be doing it at their own risk.
Sure appreciate this video. Just bought a 273 and I’m gonna bale straw next week. I would like to see you do a video on baler maintenance next, grease zerk location and what to lubricate or not. Thanks again, really glad you took the time to do this
Great idea! I’ll do that. Though every baler is going to be a little different. Thanks for the encouragement.
People are quick to point out your mistakes but that’s how we learn. Let it roll off and keep doing what you’re doing. Its helpful. I keep a leaf blower with me when In the field and also clean the baler out with it. Works great to cool yourself off too!
People are quick to point out your mistakes but that’s how we learn. Let it roll off and keep doing what you’re doing. Its helpful. I keep a leaf blower with me when In the field and also clean the baler out with it. Works great to cool yourself off too!
People are quick to point out your mistakes but that’s how we learn. Let it roll off and keep doing what you’re doing. Its helpful. I keep a leaf blower with me when In the field and also clean the baler out with it. Works great to cool yourself off too!
People are quick to point out your mistakes but that’s how we learn. Let it roll off and keep doing what you’re doing. Its helpful. I keep a leaf blower with me when In the field and also clean the baler out with it. Works great to cool yourself off too!
Thanks for the direct tutorail. I have a New Holand Super 66 that picked up from a friend. The knotting mechanism looks the same as yours. I will be watching more of your content as hay season is here....and so is the rain!
The knotters have not changed design in a hundred years. It was brilliant for its time and still is. I’ve got a lot of content and always more coming out, especially in the hay season.
Thanks , this has been very helpful.
Excellent
Great video thank you. Looking to get a New Holland 273 square baler this week and I wanted to see how to route the twine.
I have a NH 273 and plan on making a lot of videos for that as well.
Great vids. Right to the point.
Hi, I bought a very old new Holland 273. This was my first year, first time ever making hay. Thanks for all your videos. Sometimes when i engage the pto, I’m getting some rotation in the pto shaft but not the fly wheel. Everything does start to turn eventually. To me it looks like the clutch is slipping. I’m a little nervous about disassembling or adjusting. Have you ever messed with the clutches on your balers? Can you do a video of how to deal with them. Even with the manual I’m hesitant. Don’t want to make it worse!
It does sound like your clutch is just slipping. It's easy to do, you just need to tighten down the bolts going through the springs around it. Go a few turns a time on each bolt and then fire it up and see what it does. You won't make it worse.
@@TheScientistHayFarmer Thanks, just watched your video on the strings and the one on the sheer bolt. Good stuff bud. Keep it up
My first experience with balding hay was and old international square baler. You should have mentioned that square balers use the bigger twin if not the bale hooks want work good.
I bought my first baler this year and i have baled 750 bales of barley straw. I figured all this stuff out raw before remembering youtube can help me so i looked up some videos and i managed to get it right by pure ass
I used to hay when I was a kid, my foster dad never liked to show me how to do certain things, i guess that made him smarter than me, but I guess it was his way of being fucking stupid. Great video, i learned something. I used to hear people say, I've got to go out and thread the knotter. good show!
I was a foster dad too, except I loved having my foster kid out there with me. I wanted to teach him as much as I could. He still helps me to this day sometimes.
do you have a video on how to adjust your knife arm and scraper on?
No…but I could sure make one!
Thank you for all the info. Is it the same thing way with the water with New Holland.
You must have mistyped something because I’m not sure what you mean by “water” with New Holland.
I could be wrong but I always thought right over left, then left over right
We just finished for the night. A little over 12000 bales in 2 days and that includes having to fish a 7810 and the Barron out of a swamp that was stolen last night and taken for a joy ride
Wow. Holy sh*t on all accounts. Yeah, you’re too big time to help little runts like me anymore. But I’ll still take you when you can do it.
Sounds like you need to rig up a kill switch.
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Actually, if we are talking scientifically, that is not the right knot to do. Not right at all.
The knot you want to do is probably described in your manual.
You make a loop on the end of the twine on the second bale, and a loop on the end of the first bale, and then put that loop over the other one, and put the end of the twine under itself and up through the second loop.
In that way the knot will tighten securely and both ends of the twine will point backwards relative to how the twine travels through the guides and knotters.
(A square knot is not secure on slick nylon and the ends go out in different directions, running the risk of catching.)
I’ve never had a problem with square knots. Know a lot of guys that do them.
Yes but science is not consensus and where there is consensus there is no science.
@@Drottninggatan2017 whatever you say, Bill Nye. I hope you’re not a scientist or you’d understand there is in fact plenty of consensus in science.
@@TheScientistHayFarmer
Well, it doesn't take a scientist to read a manual.
And how many agree on a knot does not make it correct. It's just a popular knot.
Science by popular vote is a scam.
If there were not consensus in science, there would not be such a thing as consensus statements in infectious diseases, which is the area I work in.
If your “science” is telling me that my square knot should not work and yet it does very reproducibly and against a very large n, then your “science” is either junk science or perhaps a square knot is not the “wrong” way to do it, because that would suggest there would be instances of failure for which there are none.
So In short, tie whatever knot you’d like, but don’t pretend to be some kind of intellectual about it.
From Agco MyFarmLife:
According to Brent Miller, AGCO technical service trainer for hay equipment, most producers simply use a square knot for joining balls of twine. “That’s usually adequate for both sisal and plastic twine, as long as it’s pulled tight,” he says.
“The important thing is the knot needs to be small enough to pass through the twine tension plates, and the twine tension needs to be adjusted within the specifications listed in the operator’s manual. Since sisal twine is generally larger in diameter than plastic, the tension will need to be adjusted when going from one to the other.”