I Thought I Got SCAMMED On This Quad. Too Good To Be True...
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- Опубліковано 8 січ 2022
- I end up buying a Polaris Predator 500 for a crazy good deal...but was it too good to be true? #Quad, #500cc, #Fix,
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The oil in the air box is most commonly from doing wheelies with it. My 2004 50th anniversary does it when either over filled, or if I've been showing off.
Been binging all your videos, and I must say you're a huge inspiration! Im just getting into working on motorcycles and these videos are definitely a big help and motivation!
Good job. Just a quick comment - when reinstalling fasteners on stuff with multiple of them, don't tighten any of them until you've got them all started.
Cool video 👍,,,ps,,,every time I do an oil change and filter,,I cut and open the oil filter and inspect the inside of filter for metal shavings,,it gives you an idea of the condition of the engine,
Fox shocks came stock on the predators, my dad had one and said he liked it but always had problems. He raced quads too but I dont think he ever raced the predator, I believe he raced on a trx450 here in Illinois back in the 90s. Was one of the fastest in the state, we have trophys to prove it and he even raced with the current national quad champion Chad Weinen(I think that's how you spell it) when he was just starting as a rookie. Sadly my dad blew his knee out and had kids so he stopped racing, hes still got the skills tho even with his limited knee. He taught me everything I know and now I'm even teaching him things because of these vids. Keep em up!
There wasn’t a trx450 in the 90s. 04 was the first year
@@Anticidal25901 yeah that's why I said I believe, I havent talked to him about it for a while so Idk what for sure he raced but I'm pretty sure it was a honda, so it might've been a 400. Havent been around many trx450s so I dont know a whole lot about them other than what I've learned from my dad about the one he had and I wasnt old enough to remember him having it or his predator
@@corbingray9330 who’s your dad
@@Anticidal25901 some ppl live for an opportunity to correct someone else,eh Donnie..
Where at in Illinois? I raced a Trx250r 89-91 Hare scrambles at Splinter Creek Dirt Riders Association and motocross at the now long gone Otterville track.
He just went a little overboard when he oiled the air filter lol
Darn it, that KTM engine runs real good 👍 tho..
@@Davido50 😂🤣😂
That was my first thought too until he dipped a whole screwdriver in it.
@@Davido50 It’s not a KTM motor.
Puking oil out the crankcase breather happens when the oil level in the crankcase becomes too high. Since the oil reservoir sits higher than the crankcase there's a check valve to prevent gravity draining the oil from the reservoir into the crankcase. If that valve doesn't seal perfectly for any reason, the oil bypasses the valve and fills the crankcase. What happens is after sitting owners check the oil in the reservoir and seeing it's low (because the oil has drained into the crankcase) they fill the reservoir.
Yeah I believe that's what happened here
The oil was a paid actor
@@laska907 love it..hahahahaha
Exactly what i was thinking
@@laska907 lmao 🤣
Definitely get a wood stove it is a lot of work dealing with the wood but it is so satisfying
Well done but the whole time you were riding I was waiting for the seat to come off and the air box lid removal for the big reveal.Keep at it.
Pro Steering, Fox Shox, Douglas Yellow Dots, and Stainless brake lines are stock on all predators. The Pro Steering system is ok, it just uses 4 tie rods to help eliminate bump steer.. I've had a couple of them over the years.
It's been negative 20°f every night in Illinois for the past 2 weeks still out riding gave her a tune threw more fuel at it hasn't skipped a beat
I have Suzuki boulevard. I'm a car guy when it comes to repairing. I replaced the fraction plates and added oil. Was riding and oil was just pouring from the air filter housing. I over filled by a lot. I learned not to over fill.
I own a 2006 Polaris outlaw with the Sam engine as the Predator. I am the second owner but I have owned it for around 10years! It jumped time once and I had that fixed other than that I haven't had any trouble with it! In my opinion the 2006 outlaw is the best trail riding sport ATV there is! I have 18" tires in the rear an 20" tires in the front. It is 4" wider than stock. The engine is stock I don't even have a slip on pipe but my outlaw is the best handling best riding atv I have ever been on! The power is just right. You can have fun and use the power you have!
Great content man thank you and God Bless You Brother you and your family!
I got a 06 outlaw aswell she quit running one day and I’ve been trying to get her started ever since pretty sure it’s the timing and a bent exhaust valve but I love this damn thing so much haha
way to many people on here giving you advice when 3/4 them dont have half mechanical skill you have but i know your a good dude and let the peepers peep and you just keeping makeing bank$$$ keep up the awesome work brother !
There was so much oil in that airbox I'm surprised the U.S. government didn't try to invade it.
underrated 🤣
Did he get confused during the oil change, maybe his truck just got the 2 quarts. haha
Killer Find, Thanks Vintage...
4:54 "Its got fox shox... i don't know if those come stock... or not" 😂😂😂
Starts doing it again check for air bubble in injection line coming out of tank. 3qts is overfill its injected as long as it picks up its injecting. Good job
I've seen a few of them bikes engines get blown up because of the lack of oil because the owners didn't read the manual on how to properly refill the crankcase and the reservoir
Deffo think he put oil in it to keep the mice out ,I have seen it before with the old timers ,I would recommend just keeping a eye on it though but I think you would be fine ,great video and awesome find 👍👍
Sweet deal on a killer machine! Short shifting them and letting them pull from down low will be where u get most of the power out of it tho! 🤘
Always start your bolts by hand.
When you went to put that bolt with the power tool I yelled at the TV.
Lol. Cross threads = leaks
Nice that you have heat ,but cold air blowing under garage door 1:33 , I can see daylight shine underneath still. Ground look's uneven if u put a towel or old rug on outside to stop the draft. Or buy the Rubber part that attaches to bottom of door to cusion the gap. Stay warm Winconsin get's Cooold. I like these video's you have learned alot , Joe your almost a pro-now knowing what to look for /buying/ and repairing knowledge
Yeah garage needs more insulation and some cracks sealed. It's definitely better, but not 100 percent.
@2vintage Its hilarious how ppl notice things like the garage door weather stripping 🤣, what's next someone noticing that the windows and doors are outdated and that you should replace them with the new ones with LOW-E Argon Gas Glass Technology to get superior insulation rf rating in your garage lmao 🤣... just joking anyway love your content bud, look forward to more future videos... God Bless and best of luck in all your future endeavors....
@@oski360fuego5 He start's video with him using heater & saying its cold out and he live's in Wisconsin. 2:05 I seen Draft spot under door because I also live in cold New york and when your down low working on thing's like engine's you can feel that cold air blowing in like driving with a window cracked open. The only set back with removing air circulation in his case is he is using kerosene fume's and probably no roof vent as heat and fumes rise. I seen he insulated wall's and dry walled them since he started using his garage lol
Great quads, not too bad to work on. My son's friend has one and he can keep up with my son on his raptor 660r. I do all the tuning and repairs on it when and if it needs it, mostly just standard maintenance, enjoy.
Just bought one yesterday all plastics everything in good condition, runs an all but I'm about to dig into it make sure it's all right
Always have a piece of the air box hose on the carb as you do know the carburetor spits gas out backwards right? It also started hard from not having the air box pipe on. Thats where the fuel is atomized and then sucked back into the engine.
You should try a mini split air conditioning unit they are magnificent for garages just installed one myself love it and they are affordable you must purchase the heat pump units
You should build a waste oil heater for your garage! You should have plenty of waste oil based on the content on youtube. Don’t forget to make a build series on that heater.
Haha yeah I should!
@@2vintage There are so many build videos on youtube to get inspired from. Im looking to buy one as soon as I manage to collect enough cheap material to build from. Thank you for great content by the way. Keep it up!
Hey just wondering how you can check the oil while the front is lifted? Shouldn't you be on a level surface ?
My neighbor once had me look at her lawnmower because she said it was smoking real bad. I noticed she had way too much oil in it. She said she added a little oil to it each time she used it. I think some people don’t understand that you have to add oil every time you use something, or maybe the previous owner didn’t know how to properly check the oil level.
Lort. Reminds me of this Ranger I bought for parts once. Kid had it, wouldn't start, no power to fuel pump. Got it running and noticed it smoked an awful lot. I drained 2.5 gallons of oil out of that 2.9 liter engine. It called for 5 qts.
I've never seen oil, a lot of oil, in the air filter before. I thought PCV valve (easy), clogged oil passages (harder), or worse piston rings (hardest). A friend owned a car leaking oil he filled to the top of the valve cover - ZOINKS. Looks like you were having fun
Fox shocks, dunno if they come stock... or not. Thought the rhymes were going to continue. 😂
Gotta be careful with that type of heater. Those things have started more fires than ex- wives.
I'm 31 and have never seen a heater like that in my life. And I'm in the same region as him.
I have an outlaw, and when you took off the seat I felt like I was looking at an entirely different brand of quad
Excellent deal. Here's a trick for you when you are using Crazy Glue. When you use Crazy Glue sprinkle some baking soda on it. There is a chemical reaction that turns the glue rock hard. I've used it a bunch of time's and the fix last's forever.
Polaris predator and outlaw are awesome and by all standard faster than their bigger bore competitors. A very underated quad. I'll tell you right now I've seen plenty of raptor 700s humbled by this machine.
My 08 525IRS SMOKED ONE!! 🤣
Thats a rare & VERY NICE machine Joe! Add to the "keep forever" part of your expanding collection sir. Hope you find more YFZ450s ! The YFZ450X is bit more rare... yet very similar. Fox Shox do come stock on Polaris quads. Replace the fronts w/ new pair Fox shocks from Ebay. - Ohio
Polaris did run fox shocks on a bunch or there quads and side by sides they are factory on a Polaris for the predators and the outlaws.
Hi, just wondering whatever happened to the 85 yz 80? Couldn't find a connecting rod I think. Maybe I missed part 2
as a predator owner 1200 or whatever you said is a crazy price for one especially and 05 thats that clean looks 100% stock except pipe
Wonder if you could put a oil pressure gauge on that fitting of the oil filter cover. Probably not necessary tho...
Try to find a LTR450, I live in Wisconsin too so I know there hard to get for a good price but would still be cool.
Seal airbox, it's pulling it from the crankcase vent hose. Seen it once before. It'll drip a bit til you seal it.
It's from a Bad design, (Crankcase vent tube going into airbox), under load a high vacuum is formed in airbox with low pressure in crankcase, which causes oil to be sucked out of crankcase into airbox. Simple solution remove vent tube from airbox and let it vent to atmosphere.
It's an unfortunate EPA regulation, the only place where you should find oil is in the factory "oil catch can" with the foam as it is a higher performance machine. You will see any car with a big cam or higher compression uses a catch cans rather than a breather out of the valve cover or vaporized oil coats the whole underside of the hood. My Predator has to have a after market catch can because of the cam, compression, and RPM's now turning 8K+, I have a video of when it spun up to 7440 RPM's.
Pops
could you help me i have one from 2005 edition troy lee. he no longer gets up to do weeling, I have changed my clutch and still not. With my relaxed chain kit and a little clogged filter do you have an idea of what it could be thank you in advance.
I own xr250r and the only way you can check oil level accurately as its a dry sump system and oil in frame is to run bike upto temp quickly check oil level in flat surface and I mean quickly lol easy system and if looked after is bombproof
GREAT VID JOE!! KEEP EM COMING MY KIDS LOVE THE CHANNEL!! HELLO FROM COLD OREGON
Put a stage 3 cam and high comp kit. Can probably get a diff oil tank on ebay with cooling tubes.
idk if im right but im at 8:17 and my prediction is the oil was overfilled and pushed out like that happened to my honda its kinda weird some dip sticks you have to screw in some not and sometimes the atv is supposed to be warm before checking oil takes alot of studying
Good find but you really shouldn't run the rpms up so high on big bores they dont like it as well as it being unnecessary they start loosing power in the high rpms
If your big bores loseing power your valves are loose
I wonder if maybe he stored it with the front end up in the air.??? 👍👍👍😁
Pogo stick front end lol, as I’m typing you said something about the maxed out shocks, go figure lol.
I was about to say if it wasn't a Polaris you got shafted but I see that it is, I love mine
Great find brother, looks like ole dude put a gallon of oil in it, glad you didn't have to sink no money in it
Starting the bolts with the impact made me cry a little
What you think about polaris predator 2004?what are his flaws??do they break down??
Is the carb float stuck so it leaked a bunch of gas into the oil making it overfill?
Honestly im happy I bought this quad brotha ended up getting itp wheels full aluminium skid plate set a aftermarket front bumper an hand guards for it thing starts up an rips every time I need it too
Owned an 03 pred without reverse. Hate that it didnt have reverse but you could easily dump the clutch and get the back end the break loose. I always kept the rpms low and shifted fast and without the clutch and it had more power and torque when you speed shift
Mine would outrun almost every quad you put it against. They are absolute MONSTERS!
My 2008 Honda trx 250ex does the same thing it usalwly happens when I do a lot of wheelies in one ride
Put some BEST LINE in it at every oil change, that stuff is amazing!
Hello I just brought off road wheels for my raptor 700 pain in the but to change the wheels as the socket wouldn’t fit in so I had to grind down the socket ect ect basically I was in a rush to do it and the front wheel nuts are wrong very hard to thread on as they have a lock washer I got them on but on the back it snapped of so Iv ordered proper ones but would it be worth taking the front ones of and putting the proper ones on but the ones ok there now are tight af like it moved the hole quad even tho there only supposed to be 45 NM. I used a touq wrench that goes up to 135 and it was tighter than that 😬 jsut because it eas the wrong nut but will it fall of on me but it is literally stuck on there and I don’t want to take it or cause the threads will probably be fucked. Silly me I’m learning 😂 it snapped half way of on the back wheel but luckily I had wheel spaces so I took them of and the original thread was there but what shall I do ? Leave the front ones on there or put the Yamaha ones on but they are basically the same shape there not alloy ones or nothing but there is washers on them aswell.
im sure theres left over oil in the line unless u take it off n clean out the line your guessing but im sure thats what it is since it was overfilled
I had a Yamaha grizzly that used to do the same thing when I done prolonged wheelies
i have a predator as well just got my values adjusted and it ran fine it just stalled 2 times on me and that second time it didn’t want to turn on anymore and from their i tried turning it on but it doesn’t want to start on completely mind if you help me out a bit?
Thing needs longer springs on the front for sure. Sweet rig.
There are some good finds, but rare. I was lucky and 3 years ago bought a Husky TXC 310R with 12 hrs in mint condition and 3 sets of riding gear, 1 was never worn and oil and filters and a stand. Gave him $2500. for it all. No one wanted to buy it, as he couldnt provide a title. But after he told me why, I told him how to fix that prob and get it with no probs. 2 weeks later, he got his title and I bought it. Im a happy camper.
I have the same machine but 2004 . What oil can I use and battery
I knew exactly what the 9rblem was as soon as he pulled the airbox off.... overfill the oil... suction pulled it through crankcase vent
This use to happen to my blaster when I stored it standing up in my storage unit to save space lol.
Hey mate love your vids!❤️
Can you ones restore a Tomos?
These things are incradeble.
great from the Netherlands🙏❤️
I have seen that on the Polaris predator I owned one and I stood it on its tail end and hauled it that way and it filled the air box full
I have a complete set of plastic headlights and the choke assembly I need to get rid of for 1 of these
Common occurrence when owners don't read the manual about checking the oil level on dry sump engines.
Yes truth. Dry sump is so much better too.
@2vintage - Maybe the quad was parked in a full wheelie position. Then leaked out of the crank case to the air box over time. Then noticed it had no oil and filled it before posting.
Cant use that chimney with a pellet stove, they have to exhaust directly out the back, but they are easy enough to install, especially in shop like yours
Oh okay good to know, thanks.
Should have just pulled the 2 drain plugs on the bottom of the air box! would have been much easier! haha
Exactly.
Nice quad joe awesome buy mate guy went overboard on the oil lol take these all day long take care mate 🔧🔧🔧👍👌
I own one of these . I had the same too much oil problem. All good now... and yes they do pull hard lol . Very quick acceleration tho. Would smoke my buddies 700 raptor at the take off
My cousins preditor had fox podiums that came stock and my 97 scrambler 400 has fox floats
That's alot of oil in air box, n some quads have a plug on the bottom to take off to drain any water or fluids that get in it
Hey man, do you think it’d be reasonable to trade an 09 Polaris sportsman 550 for an 08 400ex?
They are powerful, you ought to ride the one we made a 600 out of, terrifying. My son's buddy loves it, but he keeps gliping it backwards.
What speedometer did you use? Do you have a link for that?
I made the same mistake once on our polaris...the engine has to be running when checking the oil level otherwise it will show its low....i checked it while not idling and thought the oil was low...after i added a bit of oil it was all pushed into the airbox
Kero heaters are so cool for how low tech they are and how much heat they put out. Just a fuel soaked wick will heat your small home or garage.
Oh ya!
@@Davido50 I have a few old Japanese kero heaters that use cotton wicks and I use diesel in them. I just have to trim the wick about 3/16" a week when burn quality goes down because of the residue that builds up. I can get a whole winter out of a wick and they are like $10 bucks of ebay if I actually need to replace one. Originally got them for when the power goes out but they work so well I use them whenever the house is chilly. I have a collection now because I cant resist buying them when they pop up for $20 on marketplace because people are scared to use them. I reality they are perfectly safe and csa approved for indoor use.
I can hear that bracket for the rear brake rattle unless something else is loose
Maybe he had it stored in a wheelie position on the rear wheels up against a wall. That's the only reason I can think as to why so much oil was in the airbox like that.
No it can have as much as a liter of oil or more in the airbox if it has really bad blow by so just because there's oil in the airbox doesn't mean it was stored on its end
That does seem like too much for blow by. Reminds me of the old tractors that have oil bath air filters.
@@MrZack1497 you'd be amazed at how much oil can be built from blow by look at some of the drag cars they have to run a catch can and they literally can drop a couple liter of oil on a run it looks like it was most likely caused by overfilling but if you look at the video when he was starting it just as it fired it popped through the carburetor and if you go to near the end of the video when he was driving it you can hear a pop out the exhaust I've had quite a few of these predators and that is usually a sign of bad vowels all you have to do is perform a leak down test and you can determine if the valves are bad and need to be done or not
@@MrATOMBOMB420 Interesting, I did just hear someone say predators are "sensitive" to overfilling the oil. I just bought one and put a top end on it (used head). I need to do a leak down test, but it does fire right up. I have heard these motors have all kinds of timing/valve failures that end up with the piston crashing into the valves. That's why I got this one cheap - the previous top end had heavy piston and head damage and a cracked cylinder.
this is actually a common issue on preds of oil in the air box.
Definitely overfilled too much. Its not hard with the separate oil tank. I had a raptor 700r 2017. I believe you fill oil to owner manual volume. I dumped a qt in the crank case and the oil tank. The manual said let it run for 3 mins i believe, then let it sit another 3 mins and then check oil level. Its easy to over fill. Because the oil goes into the crank case. Then the oil tank says its low. On a raptor you dont thread the dipstick in to check oil level. Ive had honda motors fill up the miffler leaning them the wrong way. So its possibly from storing it.
Is there no natural gas there to put ng forced air heater
for the heater you can probably use a fan in front to heat the garage a lot quicker but maybe not
The fan pointed indirectly at the heater is a good idea keep the air flow slow . I would ditch the kerosene for a ventless wall mounted propane much better option .
Someone definitely filled it up with tool much oil, seen this happen many times when people put too much oil in the crankcase, it ends out puking out to wherever it's vented to, happened with a buddy on his 09 kx250F
How’s the 400 doing with the cheap big bore?
That exhaust isnt meant for that quad. Fits kinda but it's not bolted up to spec. Cool find tho been waitinf for you to get one of these
so much oil wasted in the making of this video lmaooo nice video bro!
Need some of that luck over here finding something like it in Minnesnowtah
These quads are nice!!!! Ive watched a stock one rip a 700 raptor up no problem!!!
Need to get you one of those diesel turbine heaters. Best thing I’ve ever owned
Hey Joe, you may want to buy the stock case saver I just noticed that your not running any case saver at all. You should know by now that you should always run with a case saver never know when a chain will snap! It'll save you from having to tear into the bottom end and having to replace a case half bc there's a hole in it from the chain snapping.
Best advice ever! Told my friend to do the same on his 450r, and he didn't, slung the chain right through the case,
@@kevinpatella6731 happened to my friend on his dirtbike and chipped his case it's fine tho lol
Hey man I'm the new owner of that predator he sold this in December to me do you still have a crank case saver forsale
I saw a predator and got so happy I’m watching this whole series