Mikko Hirvonen & Secrets of Driving techniques PART 2/3 - How to drive a front-wheel drive?
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- Опубліковано 9 лис 2017
- WRC rally legend Mikko Hirvonen teaches you in this three part series how to drive fast with a front wheel drive, rear wheel drive and four wheel drive cars.
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Thanks now I can take my stock 1.6 206 to my local mountain road
same here
a quick brake dab can actually fix power understeer in the wet
You are not alonez every week i time myself
Key difference: first driver turns out to the right before turning into the left turn to start the balance transfer. He did it so subtly and naturally that he forgot to even mention that step.
I fucking love the fiesta
What a car
The explanation was perfect. iIt's the commitment in the corners at speed.
Wonderful tutorial. Hats off Mikko!
i understood exactly what he meant just by his explanation, great mind for driving and communicating
I came here to learn this, so I can have more shingo points with my FWD mercedes B200
amazing video!
The traction is created by creating resistance on the spinning wheel (by braking) so that the other front wheel will get power/torque. Most FWD cars use open differential. When one wheel starts spinning, the other wheel has very little torque. With LSD differential, the effect of braking is reduced.
When you apply more throttle and counter steer with LSD, the car shoots out the other way so you can’t just throttle to correct
this is a topic Civic Si owners need to talk about
Wonderful! Thank you. I have tried applying this technique with my '17 Civic SI and it works, even with my modest skills. The timing and amount of brake pressure is the challenge. Getting the car to rotate without scrubbing off too much speed. But without some trail braking you have an ugly turn. Fast in, slow through and fast out seems easy. Now if I can only get fast in, fast through, and fast out.
Curious if the famous Scandinavian flick is recommended to get your front wheel drive car a bit sideways?
I can answer that, no
Unless its a hairpin then maybe
(I don't have much experience with a front wheel drive so this is just my theory.) You need to do the opposite to get the ff sideways, becouse the rear is being pulled by the front. If you scandinavian flick you most likely understeer. Best way to get an ff sideways is to weight shift to the front while turning in; to get it more sideways you gotta have more weight shift from the rear to the front. But keep in mind that weight shifting puts much more stress to the tires and suspension.
Great tutorial
Thank you! Now, I can get a little more out of my Ford Focus, which I take out on my local back roads for fun.
great content & explanation - Thanks Mikko.
Add-on: Would be great to advice trainee to keep steering wheel in correct way and do this all the time between gear shifts.
This is a challenge from day1, when we are used to drive daily cars in 'relaxed' way and will take time to mind-shift.
So, try to 'keep' steering wheel correctly as much time as possible.
This comment is why comment sections exist. Thank you!
Miss you in Wrc
5:07 the reason why he understeered wasn't because of gas control but because of unmatching the revs when downshifting.
yes sometimes the right rev is more important than the braking itself
I’ve found in my 05 Matrix, and 03 Cooper, that improper rev matching results in a snap oversteer. The weight transfer to the front makes the back of the car try to pass the front.
The way to induce understeer is over speed on corner entry, braking too late, too much throttle through the mid corners and exit. But all cars are different I guess.
Are you correcting a professional driver 😂
No. Opposite. It's called a shift lock. The car is sliding because there is no rev match.
@@laamada9128 A professional driver can make mistakes too ya know
Thanks , sir for sharing the idea.📎
Anyone know what rims on that car? *Just* can't read what's written on them at 1080p.
finally something to do with my other leg, damn
I have a fiesta st and boy is it hard to do this because the pedals are so close
does this works well if the car has open front diff
i imagine it being quite possible for the rally modded car to have limited slip diff
i would think that this is with an LSD
It does work although this helps you maximize the benefits of having an lsd
Seeing as so many of today's cars and SUVs use "Haldex"-style 50/50 part-time awd systems, could you please feature some videos on how to get the most out these types in both high-traction (tarmac/ pavement) and low-traction (gravel/ dirt/ snow) situations? Please use VW Golf R ;)
Here's a VW Rallye Golf: ua-cam.com/video/w0FD6dTYZ_g/v-deo.html
basically in fwd we must oversteer it. because in natural fwd is understeer type (?)
Every car understeers and oversteers. The difference is, in fwd, you don’t add throttle and steer hard to oversteer whilst in rwd you add throttle and steer hard to oversteer.
oversteer is when the rear tires lose grip and slide the opposite direction of your front tires. If you're going left, your rear tires will slide to the right. In fwd, to keep all four wheels planted to the ground while steering right or left at cornering; is to add a bit of throttle, do not hard brake (understeer) or lift off from full throttle all of a sudden (oversteer)
could I do this in my 2.0 stock audi a4 asking for a friend
yeah you can
I think your friend could totally do that in your car🧐
Sequential gearbox?
Yeah! I hope I can recreate this with my dct
not clear, sorry : at 3:32 he mentions left brake .... so he can apply brake only on the left side wheels ?
Nu, e folosirea piciorului stang in apasarea franei pentru a distribui greutatea mai finut in fata masinii. Si mai important, creearea efectului de supravirare, care poate fi corectat cu acceleratia daca circumstantele cer asa ceva. Este o tehnica specifica pilotilor de raliu, si personal nu indemn practicarea acesteia pe drumurile publice.
He meant breaking with your left foot. His right foot was on the gas and his left foot was feathering the break at the same time.
My summer car
Call me odd, but I absolutely love rallying a fwd.
Great fun, nothing odd about it
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Excellent tutorial
Why not just release the throttle a bit instead of keeping the same throttle and left foot braking? What are the advantages?
It's better that way, the main goal is to keep the car planted through the turn, by avoiding weight transfer as you go off and on throttle, plus it keeps the turbo spooling, so better pedal response
@@kricy8424 Thanks.
Its actually because throttle + brakes shifts the brake bias to the rear.
Brakes are applied to all 4 wheels, and applying throttle at the same time cancels out the braking on the front wheels, but not the back.
If you let off throttle you reduce understeer, but if you left foot brake you can get the car to oversteer, which is helpful if you need to get the car to rotate quickly.
@@Biriadan Oh right. Thanks.
@@Biriadan great explanation.so you full brake with your left, trail brake to turn, press gas pedal in entry and adjust both pedals mid corner? thats how it is done? do you need lim slip diff and harder suspension for better results?
Dont think he should have downshifted into second so early. Give me a shot😂
Trying to be fast
Anyone else here cause they wanna take there fwd to the backroads without completely dying
Bwoah
Ppl say that forza is arcade as fuk, but I learned this technique and got faster in real life by playing forza. Forza horizon nontheless.
hardest thing to explain is what is natural to you...
That's a rally car ,,I was expecting it in a normal car
rally cars are normal cars with a roll cage and a sequential transmission 🏃you can apply this technique ti any fwd car that isnt a full automatic (so manuals and DCTs)
@@jasperherron5267 why not automatic?
@@tho9474 a regular automatic cant hold onto a gear all to well even if you put it into the sport mode, a DCT or a manual can stay in gear and hold it while you go through a bend while you feather the gas. an automatic you cant hold onto a gear, itll keep shifting even when you dont want it to which is terrible for fast times and maintaining power through bends. regular autos are p good for drag racing tho
Engine brakes more safe, thanks..