How To Go Rally Racing On A Budget
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- Alex Lloyd tries his hand at rallying in a cheap B-Spec Honda Fit, on the same tree-lined gravel roads as Ken Block. But can a 117-hp rally car truly make for an exciting ride? Find out, at Rally America's National Championship event at LSPR in Houghton, Michigan:
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when you have Mc.Lovin as your codriver anything can happen.
xabierfam isnt mc lovin from a movie about kids getting beer so they can get into a party?
Nailing 6992 Yeah pretty much. I believe the movie was called Superbad.
Nah, samir's co driver is way better
@@eduardoavila646 as long as his driver focuses and doesnt break the car
Filip Osvald And listen to the calls
Whenever people watch crash videos and think that they are cool ( I think they are cool af ) they don't really realize how devastating the crashes are for the driver because not only are they most likely going to lose the rally, it's a shit load of money to fix up there car or to buy a new one if they total it. rally is awesome and i hope to do it one day and I also wish that it as bigger in america than it is right now because i personally enjoy it more than any other motorsport.
james harmon honestly. that shows how stupid we are lmao. Nascar is gay af all they do is go in a circle and every once in a while there is a crash. Its stupid af. rally racing is constant edge of your seat action and you never know what is going to happen next. I love it so much and i actually hope to get into the sport one day myself :D
james harmon yea man ikr rally is sick and i'm an adrenaline junky too haha. but yea i might buy like a 7 or 8k rally car once i get out of high school and my friend told me he would learn how to be a co driver and shit. dude if i actually go through with this it would be amazing haha. good luck to u tho.
james harmon i bet haha. rn i play football and i did used to do martial arts as well. but yea i think i might actually do it. I'm 15 btw just so you know lol
To finish first, first you must finish.
Richard McConnachie indeed mate, indeed
2:13
>welding a diff on a fwd car and showing the rear axle
WEW LAD
Lol I noticed that
No such thing as a rear axle on a fwd car lol but i get what your saying
@@Freeboyy97 ???
No such thing as a rear differential*
R!OT Racing Lol yeah there is
I've edited my comment so you can't see what people are fighting about in here for the past 3 years
Comparing to a purpose-built rally car, yes it is a budget solution.
That's racing "budget" :D
HONDA RACING
Ik, like I could see like a 2K car and like 8K in mods, and prolly a friend who would be down to co drive. Also youd be doing all the work yourself
it can be done for cheaper if you choose a different car and depending what you are required to have vs what you want to have
that 18k price doesnt include trailor, mechanics, various spare parts and very importantly, the entry fee.
Co-driver, fuel, insurance and travel expenses for everything.
Then you've got to consider where you're staying, food and so on.
@@bakersmileyface so how much in total
@@davidgaylord4432About 30k. For the initial investment that is. After that every rally will cost about 2k not including damage expenses.
yes, you can go out and buy a Honda fit for 10 grand, and yes, you can probably put a cage, two seats and all the other safety stuff in it for another 8... but this is where this "budget racing" thing goes a bit wrong. because youre looking easily at another 5 grand for a half decent set of gravel suspension, and a set of tyres (you'll want at least 2 sets) is about another grand a piece, plus youre going to need spares for the brakes and various other suspension components, easily another grand. Then theres getting it registered (oh yes, these things have to be street legal AND insured, and insurance for a racecar is not cheap). then youll need a tow rig, because even though it is street legal, youre insurance wont allow for it to be driven long distances to and from events, so youll need a truck and trailer. then theres the gear: helmet $500-1000, racing suit 500-1000, the hans device he has to wear around his neck is a minimum of 1000 dollars and it is mandatory. Going racing for 18 grand is all very well and good in theory, but youre actually looking probably a minimum of 30000 just to get the car ready and to one event, after that the costs die down, but it still isn't cheap. entry fees are expensive, and then theres getting the racing license, the school for which can cost 3 grand. so if you want to do a season of racing, your first year youre probably looking at $35-40000. not really budget racing when you actually look at all the costs.
+Jack Khashmanian Protip: Don't tell your insurance that you've modified your vehicle. Worst comes to worst, if you crash it you don't get anything out of it unless you tow the wreckage home and part it.
+Jack Khashmanian I am building a BMW e36 rally car. I have my helmet -120, insurance - 30per month, cage is 4k, suspension, 2.2k. Other items, Ie fire suit, skid plate, fire extinguishers, med kits, spill kits, steering wheel, tires and all. The whole project is looking to run about 10k for me. Then another 1-2k per rally. Not that bad. 1 or 2 rallies a year and then 50 dollar rx inbetween for my first few years. Biggest bite is the initial car.
Dude your a jackass
don't listen to this guy go buy a honda civic do most of the work yourself
and for under 10k you, your car and your co-driver if your paying for them too will be ready
while this poster is using worst case pricing and basically figuring all "new" gear (you don't need all brand new gear) he is mostly right. you have to have a tow car, you have to have spares (though often the best way to get spares is to buy a wrecked version of your car and strip it apart at home). but there is going to be 1-2 grand in costs per event you simply can't "bum" your way out of. and of course being able to afford to build a 18k $ car doesn't mean your also well off enough to afford totalling it. you have to enter every race with the mindset that it's not the end of the world if you tow back a pile of smashed wreckage.
Jack
"Budget" in comparison to a full-fat racing car, not to your shopping trolley.
The Fit is a wonderful platform for rally, the EP3 too. Little lift on the suspension, light bar, and even a tire rack on top or back. It's there!
"I'm surprised at how much you could leave alone"
New tires, welded diff, stripped down completely, 2 bucket seats, gravel suspension, racing wheel, and a roll cage.
Seems like a lot but its really not, it's nothing compared to creating a drag setup.
@@Snow-vo1yi You can leave everything alone on a casual drag car, can you not?
@@zachrichard7039 it depends on whether or not you're actually competing against buildt cars or not.
@@Snow-vo1yi But that's not their goal in this either. I think the point they're trying to make is that the "budget rally build" is still quite expensive compared to a budget track or drag build.
@@zachrichard7039 ok m8
A bit like what happened here, I have a story. My dad is a rally driver, and he was literally on the brink of winning the rally, when he fell into a ditch a few hundred metres from the finish. As his friend was passing by, he saw the car. He then, out of full respect for my dad, stopped next to him and attached a tow rope to the car. He pulled him out and my dad finished. He is such a nice man for stopping, when HE could’ve won the rally, but sacrificed his win to prevent my dad for getting a ‘DNF’. I love rallying. It is the most interesting and gruesome sport.
So, smiles on headlights are more important than visibility
Yes.
Definitely
It adds 100+ more of horsepower. So yes, it is important
As someone from Houghton it was a shock to get a shoutout, there's actually a good chance I was watching this rally.
8k for a fit? I wouldn't pay more than 5k on that especially knowing that you intend to thrash on it. I'd imagine any little fwd car with decent balance would suit.
Honda civic 1997 hatchback with rally suspension, rollcage and bucketseats + harnas, straight pipe, brakes. Maybe new intake and if you have the money a turbo. If you find the right parts you'll probably sit under 18k
a toyota corolla from 1990 is perfect for rallying. i payed 2000sek (200euros)
its a 1100kg 105hp car. remove some weight get nice tires and boom it should be good to go for a beginer
CJSchecter96 buy a Subaru svx
You think 8k is much try buy a mk2 escort you'll be lucky to get one for 20k
what about transmission for the turbo
Funny they say 10 k is cheap. You could buy and build a much better rally car for 10 k
+Frederick Neill you could get a used subaru wrx sti for less than $10k
Frederick Neill And for that 10K you would be absolutely demolished being in a car far faster than a beginner can handle. Even if you don't waste the entire 10k wrecking the car, you'll still be completely uncompetitive.
You can actually buy and build a Lada 1200 / 2105 / 2107 VFTS for under 8k. It's around 140 BHP, and it's RWD.
rwd is terrible for rally
Combustion69 RWD in rally is good, Take the Volvo 240, the toyota starlet, ford escort and the lancia stratos as some examples.
this seems truly and genuinely fun 😊 if I ever get to rally, i'll be just cruising through the track the first time while my co-driver yelling at me to go faster 🤣
nah co driver are cool af
Stay with CoD Indian Kid.
so basically it's possible to join for $10k (cause I can find a better car for $2k)
even cheaper if you know how to weld and have a welder, being essentially the price of the car and tires
You can find log-booked, turn-key 2wd rally cars for under 10k if you keep your eyes peeled for one. It'll be an older VW or similar, but it will get the job done.
So many decent chassis out there for rally - question is what series you're trying to enter.
The safety equipment alone will run you more than two grand.
Found an 03' Civic SI for 2,873$ and it's better because VTEC POWAAA!
all the reference to ken block made me cringe
Well he is the most succesful american WRC driver ever
Antti-Jussi Vuori Dude, that doesn't say much.
Saggy Pants how though?
Me too....they couldn't find any other driver...loo
Walter Röhrl
"welding the differential"
points the camera at the back axle, which has never even seen a differential
Everyone claiming they should of got a old WRX or the like cheaper is just ignorant. This car will do this event week in and week out without an issue. A
SimoColes truth
I agree
Not entirely true.
SimoColes i started out in an e30, rwd is way better for learning
Not exactly true but makes sense
Just found this video, was our first LSPR to spectate in 2014 and that first day was miserable...hasn't stopped me from going back every year.
Rally cars, beautiful fall colors, throw in a great cup of coffee and you have the making of an awesome day
No such thing as budget rally.. rallycross on the other hand :) good cheap fun
Agreed. This is the real answer
You can't use the same budget car for both events? What makes you say it is cheaper, I actually like the idea of circuit racing better than timed distance
Drew Larsh it's information for people that want to race rally not rally cross
rallycross is done on a mostly built circuit, which is a lot smoother than an actual rally course
Budget mudding.
Watch the top gear version of this 'top gear budget rally'. They spend around 3,4 thousand pound ( around 5000 dollars), that's with all modifications making it rally legal. They take them down to a local track and have a great time against other budget cars. Seems much more appealing than spending 15000$ on this pile of Honda.
Keep in mind they were doing (European) Rallycross not Stage Rally.
Rallycross and stage rally are completely different disciplines
"Alright go"
That cracked me up. What a brilliant video too, all good fun.
Why are they referring to Ken Block like he's a rally god or sth, he's nowhere near the best rally drivers in the world. Just a showman
I guess that's because he is about the only rally driver Americans know
Colin McCray was a legend
I can't believe how many people came here to bitch that a video intended for Americans was going to mention the most well known dirt driver in America. No one said he was the best, but he's very well known and if you were able to throw a car around a track like he does you'd be mighty proud of yourself.
People love to diss on Ken Block like they could do better, he may not be the best but he's better than any keyboard warrior and he's also just about the only "rally driver" who has managed to make big profit while doing it.
Ameeriklased, seal on ta kõva mees MM-il oleks suht viimaste hulgas.
Honestly even if you don’t like to accept it, he was a very important piece on the introduction of the rally and ambassador of the WRC in USA.
And remember this, USA is well known for having people that don’t get involved in rally or even small sporting cars.
THAT’S WHY HE WAS SO IMPORTANT IN THE RALLY WORLD.
this is the reason why i'd spend hours watching rally in FIT rather than those street drag race. this is too damn fun.
Love your down right honest commentary,
I can personally confirm that the Honda fit sport is absolutely rally ready
Nice, love seeing the Honda Fit alive and kicking! Also I thought HPD was a recent thing... Apparently not.
lol, for not a lot of money...spent 8k on the car alone. a lot money for most people.
why? thats way to much dawg.
you don't need this type of car any car will work as long as it has the good motor and 5 speed
Your not throwing a ball around, you're racing cars. It has got to cost something.
Yes, it will cost something, but 8k for a mere Honda Jazz is a lot considering you could just get a Nissan 350Z for the same or less.
I will agree that a Z33 would be a terrible rally car, but, the point was value for money, not just what would be viable.
man i love how emotional i get at the end of the video,is this a taste of passion?
I guess he doesn't use Craigslist's. Alot of times you can find people who don't really rally or do any serious track racing instead most of the time they just sit and meet in empty parking lots. But you can find them selling older wrx's, 2.5rs, vw's, volvo 240's, and some audi's that already have a cage, seats, belts, and more but never really but them into use. For around 5-8k sometimes even cheaper. Will they pass inspection? Who knows. lol
they mist
*racing suits $100-$2000
*rally helmet $200-$5000
*fire extinguisher $40-$100
*rally seats $400-$4000
*car trailer $4000-$10000
LoL, hans-free...
do u mean missed?
yep
lol
If you truly wanted to go rallying and cant afford it in your current lifestyle you don't truly want to go rallying. Sell it all and live in your parents shed next to your rally car; this is the dream.
All in all, rally isnt something you do. It is something you commit to. For example ive been involved in motorsport all my life and now i'm 13 and building my first rally car with my dad. You cant watch a video like this and go "I'll do this next weekend' you have to spend you life doing it.
"If you're anything like me, you've dreamed of being a walking Monster Energy sponsor."
No.
The Honda Fit/Jazz is a BEAST dressed as a beagle.
Michael de Guzman iiii
I loved this video, thanks
Y did you spend 8g on a 2wd car? Any old subaru will blow that crap out of water
That would put him in a different class if I'm not mistaken
AWD cars are in a different class, You should read the rule book on homologation classes . Driving skill is the key here, its not just about budget.
you can find a running 90s civic for like 800 and strip it out instead
Imho the point of this video was it doesnt realy matter which car u have as long as u drive it properly - u wouldnt expect honda fitt or how is it called (in EU its jazz) to win a rally class lol
get yourself a 3k 1st gen subaru impreza type r cuz that thing is a beast even without tuning :D
I found a 2008 Hyundai accent with 94k miles for 1,800. Might be an interesting car to do this with. Slow enough to keep me out of trouble but good to learn.
Just added this to the bucket list!!
This looks like a lot of fun!
And there is some guy who joined a rally with a $500 car...jeez.... 😕
And he got third place it was also a world championship
Yeah, you can get competitive car for much cheaper than the one in the vid.
Who? Is there a link to a story or something? I'm new to rally and would love to learn and start saving in case I'll want to try :) me and my cousin have always been sportsbike guys but since I got my Miata, and started modding it, we are approaching local competitions(as attenders) and rally costs are high...reading something about this $500 third place story would be awesome :)
AndreCorner
Search for '$500 craiglist car in rally Mexico' on UA-cam
FrankypankyV8
Thanks man!
Cars I'd recommend:
BMW E30 325i
Mazda speed 3 (any generation)
Any subaru WRX or a 1st gen legacy turbo
An old AWD audi
or really any FWD car that's under 1400 kilos (3000-ish lbs.)
why FWD? Just curious. At first thought my instinct is to go with RWD.
Rwd slides a lot on dirt. For fast times, that's bad. FWD pulls out of slides on dirt better than RWD but if you just want to have fun and you don't care about time then yes, rwd is a good option.
actually thats just half of the story... FWD is easier to drive i give you that, but in bad conditions like rain and mud if you accelerate hard in a FWD car you'll lose alot of grip because of weight transition
Dat Person Doe. then a Toyota Yaris/Aygo is perfect, 2,400lbs, 104hp and FWD, in fact it could be a unnoticed beast because I haven't seen many people use them in rally even though you can find them for $3000 or less.
Skunkdog Gro
Ford Fiesta, and Opel Adam are also quite good. So good that they're both made into R2 Rally cars.
great video man!
Congrats, victory on debut effort.
Hell yeah you can get excitement out of 117 horswpower! The iconic ae86 only has 112 and its been shown what that can do
Oversteer in a front wheel drive.... makes me miss my corsa.
haha
i guess she ended in a ditch
It was understeer
Love the BSA 2010 fire suit. The year I got my Eagle Scout and went to the Jamboree at Fort AP Hill.
Nice to see another driver stop to pull you out.
Cheap used FWD is the best for rallying. Whether it be 110hp or 190hp when you’re on a budget, you make due with what you have.
Going to my first rally tonight :-D night time winter rally
so, how it is?
How did it go good sir?
Are you still alive?
He died
lmao
i own a Brazilian Chevy Chevette, thats basically an Opel Kadett C, and im itching to turn it into a Rally car! this video acctually helped a lot
Rallying in a Honda Fit is everything I could ever want out of life... I'm so jealous rn...
absolutely ridicolous and misleading information in here
Yeah, new it was garbage as soon as they showed Yahoo in the first 10 seconds.
D R imagine if it were someone like buzzfeed instead it would be horrifying
Pretty much called is bullshit as soon as he showed a Honda Fit for 10g's... Of all the competitive cars in the price range, that's literally the worst...
Few mistakes but overall great video, really gives me a look into what should I expect, Im even more excited now. One thing tho, you can get into rally racing for a lot and I mean A LOT cheaper than 18k. You can pick up some car for 1 grand and rally it with no problem, just find a rally where there is no requirement about having a roll cage and you can participate for 1k + entry fee
Ofc having a skid plate under the engine to protect oil pain and transmission from rocks and stuff, rip out the interior, buy some aftermarket steering wheel and muffler delete will give you more of a rally feel, but those are extras
Ofc having a skid plate under the engine to protect oil pain and transmission from rocks and stuff, rip out the interior, buy some aftermarket steering wheel and muffler delete will give you more of a rally feel, but those are extras
1. There’s no such thing as rally without a roll cage
2. There’s also no such thing as buying a rallycar for 1k and just going and driving it with no issues. If you get a rallycar for 1k, be prepared to spend hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars to get it remotely stage worthy
3. Motorsports are inherently expensive. If you’re looking for cheap, rally is not the sport for you. I would recommend curling or badminton
@@RallyKJ Overall you are 100% right, and I agree with you, but at least here (Australia) there are S1 rally sprints, which are the really base level events.
They are set up so you can't reach that high speeds, and you can just use your road car in them; all you need is a helmet.
I would imagine most other countries would have similar events.
@@Sussex192 oh yeah we have those in America too. That’s what we call rallycross. Completely different than rally tho
Awesome vid
Very impressive for a beginner way to go buddy
Why did he even mention a rear differential on a fwd car...
How do you sign up for these rally events?
those are the real questions
holy shit chase, how far you've come!
ryan sanders 😂 that was the start of me spending all my money on racing
Like the story man love the race
All those Subarus... they look so good on the Rally course.
lmao, get a cheap fwd car for like 1k, put 2k into parts. Good tires, good suspension, and boom, that's all you need to learn the basics.
You need turbo Weight reduction forged Pistons, etc etc
GuilleL51 [GD] you NEED turbo,forged pistons,weight reduction,is it in regulations or something ? You just need a car and a license to start racing for real
Boar Garage yeah ik but can you drift with a 70 hp fiesta? I mean i know its fun and cheap but with some cheap customizations you can have a nice car with more hp
GuilleL51 [GD] You can drift anything on wet gravel/dirt.
do you honestly think its hard to drift?
Ken Block lol. Also 20k is not a small budget. Thats literally a deposit for a house. Pretty sure you can just pay for a day out in a rally type car on a track for a couple of thousand. Good vid though. Thanks for uploading.
With that comeback if I was an opponent I'd be thinking "did they swap drivers?"
Dude... A Fit... brilliant!!
0:39 is that McLovin?
Was he sponsored by the BSA or was he an eagle scout? Also why honda fit?
Good finish dude
The Voice of this man is Persuasive
Why the fuck does Yahoo have a yt acount
2stroke2smoke
Ikr
Generating ad revenue for their biggest competitor, Google.
Seems like a weird strategy if you ask me
Because they know who the Boss is. Time to bend over I guess...
2stroke2smoke I
0:38 So when did McLovin become a co-driver?
Nice video!)
My son and I privateered a Group 5 rally car. No greater experience than being his co-driver. BTW, on the cheap, you're probably your own mechanics.
Cut the hair, change the voice. BOOM. Danny Duncan, Rally edition.
For $10k you could of got a pretty damn good awd Subaru
Rallying is the best motorsport, what makes it so fun is that it is not only about speed but also survival and it is very easy to get a cheap rally car.
Now THIS is good content Yahoo.
The mechanics and repairs are free? They probably cost more than the car.
Mit-chi-gan
Very nice!
"wanted to savor the moment..."
"Alright, go"
lmfao
Top Gear's budget rallying was much better
Old TopGear could do that with a 1000 british pounds...
Rallycross and Rally are different things...
@@crazycupckake4676 Not to a person who just wants to have fun racing in dirt.
@@eduardoavila646 They're not the same thing eitherway
@@crazycupckake4676 I don't know if you didnt undertand my previous comment or you're trolling, but, for someone who is in vacations or in the weekend and want to have some fun, it doesnt matter if its rallycross, rally, or any of the possible rally derivatives such as regularity rally, speed rally, etc. Its a weekend/vacation fun, with some spare money.
I've done both in the past, and they are the same thing, the difference is only in the investment for starting it. I've had easier times doing like top gear did, and after having some fun and then when i had to comeback to work, i sold the car to another guy wich wanted to do the same thing, and actually got $200 more than i invested.
With this one, i had to get a more recent car, and even selling it in the end, i lost some money.
But for fun purpouses, its the same thing. We are not talking in any way in a professional environment nor championship, wich isnt in the scope of the video anyway.
While me i grew up driving on muddy dirt roads and gravel all the time. Im at home on the dirt. Its just so natural. Done 4x4 to fw and some rw. Its awesome to be speeding down not giving a flying shit. Just good fun. Never did an event.
A Peugeot 205 or 206 GTI will get you mad places, my dad did 12 car rallies in one, amazing car
He said "Mitch"igan 😁😁
at time 7:09 you did not stop to help your team mate yet someone help you when you were in a ditch in the dark
mgsboedmisodpc2 lol I don't think a 170 hp Honda Fit could pull a car out in semi deep water...
Did you watch the video or listen to the commentary? It was their team mates who were stuck, they waved them on (clearly seen in the video). They waited for sweep, took over an hour to get pulled out (clearly heard in the video). I was at this rally, and drove down that stage the day after in a 4wd SUV with AT tires. There was still a bunch of standing water on the road, with deep mucky ditches in many sections. There was no way the Fit was pulling that car out...
117**
well at that point they were in the lead and heading for a victory. Would be stupid to give ANYONE a tow then. They were lucky to have gotten a tow when needed.
aye126 its 117hp lol
Soo bad ass need to do this at least once in my live or even go see a event
“Man vs machine”... well done
you could have got a subaru wrx for 8k easy a good one at that but that prob put you in a higher class
It would and is probably more dangerous for a first time rally racer
How old of a car are we talking here though? I live in michigan and i've seen 2005 WRX'S go for 10-15k all day long.
Im sure hes a good driver but winning first place in a stock honda fit? that doesnt speak well of the competition, shoot the civic si shouldve been destroying them until it got stuck.
Love seeing the UP get some spotlight.
This needs to be done before i die 🏁
10 Grand is ridculously huge sum of money ! you cant call that a budget !
LMAO his go to "rally driver" is someone who's never won a single WRC rally event (best finish 7th) and I'm not even sure if he ever won a single stage. But then anyone that calls a twenty something grand rally car cheap is quite obviously somewhat detached from reality.
Great video. Why am I only seeing this now?
They should have included a interview with FY racing. I live in houghton MI and FY racing is a local rally team,there a privateer rally team that was very competitive with Travis, Dave and Ken block on factory rally teams.
Fit s? Lol no. Just get a subaru.
Like ken block? hes over rated. 😂😂
Back to watching rally crashes and wishing I had dirt rally while looking up honda fits on craigslist....
My friend says that Forza Motorsport doesn't need rallying but he doesn't realize that rallying is a very good sport. (and it's also so dangerous) So Nitro if ur reading this, don't think rallying is stupid