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I can picture them paying homage to this just by her naming the journal Ellen and that’s it. We don’t need the actual person or letters. Just her deciding to name her journal Ellen and writing dear ellen on each page. But this is not the most crucial thing to keep in this film.
I totally get where you're coming from on the imprinting on the first love interest thing but I actually felt like that was done on purpose in the book. While I by no means thought it was a perfect book, I appreciated getting a better understanding of why a woman would stay in that kind of situation and how complex the feelings towards an abuser are. I felt like getting to know Ryle and Lily together first and wanting to root for them before finding out that he is abusive just adds to that ability to understand the complexity of the feelings in am abusive relationship and how a person can try to excuse their partner's behaviors because of the love they have for them. Feeling connected to him because he was introduced first definitely adds that layer to it that I think really matters in a story that's trying to help us understand abuse from the victim's perspective. It helps people to blame them less and have more empathy.
Exactly! Plus I honestly feel like us meeting Atlas first and seeing him and Lily together with the understanding that they were always meant for each other would almost justify Ryle's thoughts and insecurities about Lily and Atlas (obviously not his abusive actions though). We have to see Lily genuinely dedicate herself to Ryle and be focused on him first - that way we can have less sympathy for Ryle overall when Atlas comes (back) into the picture since much of Ryle's insecurities would be unjustified in the first place.
Just so you know, I am doing my best to avoid anything relating to Colleen Hoover because I hate how popular the books are. However, the reason I'm commenting is because another video essay channel I follow did a very unconventional list of his favorite comic book adaptations and he put Josie and the Pussycats at the top of the list
I say in this video that the only reason I'm talking about this book is because there's a feature film adaptation, and I cover films first and foremost. 🤭 And yay! I'm glad to hear more people are spreading the word Josie and the Pussycats (2001) is ABSOLUTELY THAT GIRL, SHE'S AN ICON, SHE'S A LEGEND, AND SHE IS THE MOMENT! 🍿
Great thoughts! Read this one from the library as my first (and possibly only) CH for a book club, and I love your ideas. Especially, especially the idea of making the alcoholism more prominent. Like you said, makes the ending so much more comprehensible.
The ending BAFFLED me (especially without the 'Note from the Author' context). The willingness to co-parent with that horrible man without getting lawyers involved was WILD. 😵
@@LadyJeneviaRIGHT?! I was like, what did I just read. Are we just continuing these cycles? The alcoholism provides such important context (not excuse ofc but context).
@kateliness2 The author explaining her relationship with her own father and the difference in his behaviour before and after sobriety completely recontextualised my perception of what was being attempted for the character. The material didn’t translate well on its own. Even the casual drinking at the bar where they wear the onesies? That was never painted as anything other than fun? If he’s an alcoholic (or inspired by one) that should’ve been a recurring place in the story to communicate his drinking is a problem.
This was so interesting! I’ve heard a lot about the Colleen Hoover books but wasn’t personally interested in reading them. I liked your thoughts on how an adaptation could work/what it could do to work. My favorite book to screen adaptations are the ones that are able to convince me of the changes bc it almost keeps the essence of the story better than a more literal adaptation. Changing mediums, especially from a non visual one to a visual one, requires a really deep understanding of the source material. I hope you do make a video about the movie! I think your opinion is always fair, genre-informed, and production-informed. It’s also why I liked your video about The Trap!
i have like no desire to watch this film but why do your videos always make me wanna watch with my friends just so i can see what you're referring to. ughh i love this feeling sm
You DO NOT need to watch a film if it doesn't interest you, I only read the book and watched the film to make UA-cam videos, they weren't recreational reads/viewings for me WHATSOEVER. 😂
All the points you made are legit. Even though I know very little about Colleen Hoover’s work, I could still grasp your observations. I have never read any of her books. From what I had previously heard, her fiction did not appeal to me. But then, when I found out that this adaptation would be starring Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni (I’m a huge fan of both of them), I thought I might watch the film, at least. Anyway, I’d love to hear your thoughts on the whole movie! 🤩😍🫶🏻 Lots of love from Rome💕
@@LadyJenevia I know that now. 😦 Thanks for the warning! 💕🫶🏻 I miss the days when he was the endgame, like in “Jane The Virgin”! That show was so funny and ridiculous (in the best way). 🤩😍
It’s just A THING we have as viewers. We see a meet-cute and ATTACH. It doesn’t help the story to make sense if they don’t first establish that she’s been pining over Atlas for basically A DECADE (or longer since the actors for the film are very much older than their book characters). 😆
First I'd like to say I like this video concept! Its a little creative mind map- I have so many thoughts to add! While I agree with all your other points, I actually think introducing Ryle before Atlas would work well too. So what if the audience imprints on Ryle and then their perception of the story is blown up - thats what its like for many women. Often they "fall in love", get isolated, and then their world is upended along with all the confusion/self doubt & blame/gas lighting that comes along with that. I think it could be powerful for the audience to get a taste of that. I definitely think the diary entries need to be swtiched up- they were used as framing devices for flash backs. I think things like the tattoo, the funeral, the first meeting with Atlas, and the magnet could be the new framing devices that take Lilly back in time instead. I didnt pick up on the alcoholism either! That definitely needa to ramped up, but only if the conclusion of self healing is included. Of its not, then its just making excuses. I love the idea of blacl outa instead of visual DV. Imagine, their laughing in the kitchen one moment, she wakes up in her bed sore the next, no idea whats happened. I'm not the biggest fan of Ryles sister, not sure what felt off for me, but something just made me uncomfortable/gross.
Are they aging up the characters? The actors are all older. I feel like them being young makes more sense for the story. Side note, Collen makes the most unrealistic names... Ryle???
If this was a regular book review, I would've probably made a joke (or several) about the character names (and the SPELLING for Allysa???) but that wasn't the thesis for this so I kept those thoughts to myself. 🤭
@@LadyJenevia I was kinda upset to see that notification because I haven't had a chance to watch that movie yet, and I really wanna keep up with Hunter Schafer's career beyond Euphoria. So you go live with that on your conscience!
I was never going to purchase that book when I know that I will only use it for 1-2 videos and never touch it again. Doing so would only create more needless waste. There are other ways to get books for videos (including but not limited to magical places called LIBRARIES 🤭).
Well I appreciate you resubscribing! 😂🤷🏻♀️ You could also try turning notifications on for all videos I upload and see if that helps. I've never had that problem of observing myself being automatically unsubscribed so I'm only speculating on what works to fix it. 😅
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Praying they don’t make Blake Lively write letters to Ellen 😭💀
[Steve Carrell's The Office voice] NO, GOD! NO, GOD, PLEASE NO! NO! NO! NOOOOOOOOOOO-
I almost forgot about that lol
I can picture them paying homage to this just by her naming the journal Ellen and that’s it. We don’t need the actual person or letters. Just her deciding to name her journal Ellen and writing dear ellen on each page.
But this is not the most crucial thing to keep in this film.
no fr I feel like taking out the ellen thing would improve the story SO much
Will i ever read Colleen Hoover or watch this movie? No. Did I watch and enjoy this video from beginning to end? Absolutely ✨✨
I appreciate this so much! 🥹🫶🏻
I totally get where you're coming from on the imprinting on the first love interest thing but I actually felt like that was done on purpose in the book. While I by no means thought it was a perfect book, I appreciated getting a better understanding of why a woman would stay in that kind of situation and how complex the feelings towards an abuser are. I felt like getting to know Ryle and Lily together first and wanting to root for them before finding out that he is abusive just adds to that ability to understand the complexity of the feelings in am abusive relationship and how a person can try to excuse their partner's behaviors because of the love they have for them. Feeling connected to him because he was introduced first definitely adds that layer to it that I think really matters in a story that's trying to help us understand abuse from the victim's perspective. It helps people to blame them less and have more empathy.
Exactly! Plus I honestly feel like us meeting Atlas first and seeing him and Lily together with the understanding that they were always meant for each other would almost justify Ryle's thoughts and insecurities about Lily and Atlas (obviously not his abusive actions though). We have to see Lily genuinely dedicate herself to Ryle and be focused on him first - that way we can have less sympathy for Ryle overall when Atlas comes (back) into the picture since much of Ryle's insecurities would be unjustified in the first place.
@@janeryan2709 I hadn't even thought about that part but that is an excellent point :)
Honestly, I'm over here with My Lady Jane.
No spoilers, please! I've only watched episode 1 so far... doing a one-per-week thing at the moment. 🤭
@@LadyJenevia 🫡
@@LadyJenevia I hope you like it, I'm obsessed with them, it was so much fun❤
@@LadyJeneviayou wont regret it. One of the best shows ever.
You picked a great photo of Justin Baldoni for the screen grab! Good Lord, what a hunk!!
Just so you know, I am doing my best to avoid anything relating to Colleen Hoover because I hate how popular the books are. However, the reason I'm commenting is because another video essay channel I follow did a very unconventional list of his favorite comic book adaptations and he put Josie and the Pussycats at the top of the list
I say in this video that the only reason I'm talking about this book is because there's a feature film adaptation, and I cover films first and foremost. 🤭
And yay! I'm glad to hear more people are spreading the word Josie and the Pussycats (2001) is ABSOLUTELY THAT GIRL, SHE'S AN ICON, SHE'S A LEGEND, AND SHE IS THE MOMENT! 🍿
Why would u hate a video because it’s popular?
Great thoughts! Read this one from the library as my first (and possibly only) CH for a book club, and I love your ideas. Especially, especially the idea of making the alcoholism more prominent. Like you said, makes the ending so much more comprehensible.
The ending BAFFLED me (especially without the 'Note from the Author' context). The willingness to co-parent with that horrible man without getting lawyers involved was WILD. 😵
@@LadyJeneviaRIGHT?! I was like, what did I just read. Are we just continuing these cycles? The alcoholism provides such important context (not excuse ofc but context).
@kateliness2 The author explaining her relationship with her own father and the difference in his behaviour before and after sobriety completely recontextualised my perception of what was being attempted for the character. The material didn’t translate well on its own. Even the casual drinking at the bar where they wear the onesies? That was never painted as anything other than fun? If he’s an alcoholic (or inspired by one) that should’ve been a recurring place in the story to communicate his drinking is a problem.
@@LadyJeneviaCompletely agree!
Omg the note about ryle being based off an alcoholic really does make the ending make way more sense
YES.
This was so interesting! I’ve heard a lot about the Colleen Hoover books but wasn’t personally interested in reading them. I liked your thoughts on how an adaptation could work/what it could do to work. My favorite book to screen adaptations are the ones that are able to convince me of the changes bc it almost keeps the essence of the story better than a more literal adaptation. Changing mediums, especially from a non visual one to a visual one, requires a really deep understanding of the source material. I hope you do make a video about the movie! I think your opinion is always fair, genre-informed, and production-informed. It’s also why I liked your video about The Trap!
An It Ends With Us movie review will be next up after I review CUCKOO! 😈🔪
i would love a review after the movie comes out 😘
@@imanebahnane6568 Thank you for letting me know! 🤗
i have like no desire to watch this film but why do your videos always make me wanna watch with my friends just so i can see what you're referring to. ughh i love this feeling sm
You DO NOT need to watch a film if it doesn't interest you, I only read the book and watched the film to make UA-cam videos, they weren't recreational reads/viewings for me WHATSOEVER. 😂
All the points you made are legit. Even though I know very little about Colleen Hoover’s work, I could still grasp your observations. I have never read any of her books. From what I had previously heard, her fiction did not appeal to me. But then, when I found out that this adaptation would be starring Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni (I’m a huge fan of both of them), I thought I might watch the film, at least. Anyway, I’d love to hear your thoughts on the whole movie! 🤩😍🫶🏻
Lots of love from Rome💕
Fair warning, Justin Baldoni is playing a violent, abusive man in this story. 😶
He’s not the endgame love interest, though. 🙅🏻♀️
@@LadyJenevia I know that now. 😦 Thanks for the warning! 💕🫶🏻
I miss the days when he was the endgame, like in “Jane The Virgin”! That show was so funny and ridiculous (in the best way). 🤩😍
Hey, it's me, I'm the problem it's me: the audience, who imprints on the 1st love interest shown in books and movies!!!
😂🤣
It’s just A THING we have as viewers. We see a meet-cute and ATTACH. It doesn’t help the story to make sense if they don’t first establish that she’s been pining over Atlas for basically A DECADE (or longer since the actors for the film are very much older than their book characters). 😆
First I'd like to say I like this video concept! Its a little creative mind map- I have so many thoughts to add!
While I agree with all your other points, I actually think introducing Ryle before Atlas would work well too. So what if the audience imprints on Ryle and then their perception of the story is blown up - thats what its like for many women. Often they "fall in love", get isolated, and then their world is upended along with all the confusion/self doubt & blame/gas lighting that comes along with that. I think it could be powerful for the audience to get a taste of that.
I definitely think the diary entries need to be swtiched up- they were used as framing devices for flash backs. I think things like the tattoo, the funeral, the first meeting with Atlas, and the magnet could be the new framing devices that take Lilly back in time instead.
I didnt pick up on the alcoholism either! That definitely needa to ramped up, but only if the conclusion of self healing is included. Of its not, then its just making excuses.
I love the idea of blacl outa instead of visual DV. Imagine, their laughing in the kitchen one moment, she wakes up in her bed sore the next, no idea whats happened.
I'm not the biggest fan of Ryles sister, not sure what felt off for me, but something just made me uncomfortable/gross.
I cant believe im this early! Im glad i am. I was wondering what this movie was.
It's the latest book-to-screen discourse lightning rod (probably). 😂
I would love to hear your thoughts on the film once it’s been released.
Okay! I went to a press screening of CUCKOO so I’ll be reviewing that first but I should be able to do It Ends With Us after that! 😊
This was an interesting concept for a video, enjoyed it!
Thank you very much, I’m glad you enjoyed it! 😊🙋🏻♀️
Like I watched Enough, and An American Crime and am still not okay.
Are they aging up the characters? The actors are all older. I feel like them being young makes more sense for the story.
Side note, Collen makes the most unrealistic names... Ryle???
If this was a regular book review, I would've probably made a joke (or several) about the character names (and the SPELLING for Allysa???) but that wasn't the thesis for this so I kept those thoughts to myself. 🤭
@@LadyJenevialol you did great staying on task. Your points about acting out DV and how to work around that was something I hadn't considered.
The DV does get pretty graphic 😬
I mean.. Atlas?!
@@valeriarossini543 Yes, pretty much all main characters have unrealistic names. It's almost feels cruel in a weird way, lol.
I want your thoughts on the film itself.
Thank you!
I had to do my CUCKOO review first but now that I've posted that, It Ends With Us (film) will be next! 😊
@@LadyJenevia I was kinda upset to see that notification because I haven't had a chance to watch that movie yet, and I really wanna keep up with Hunter Schafer's career beyond Euphoria.
So you go live with that on your conscience!
@@thecavalieryouth The movie comes out this weekend! I saw it early at a NEON screening which is why my review is up already! 🍿
The drama over rhis adaptation got me purchasing a CH book so i can annotate the sh*t out of it 😅
I was never going to purchase that book when I know that I will only use it for 1-2 videos and never touch it again. Doing so would only create more needless waste. There are other ways to get books for videos (including but not limited to magical places called LIBRARIES 🤭).
I- NOOOOOOO
No to my ideas or no to something else? 😆
@@LadyJenevia THE MOVIE 😭😭😭😭
@@StrawberryCakeStudiosYT HAHAHA, well I haven't seen it yet so I have no opinions about the execution of the film adaptation until afterwards! 🤭
I swear this is the third time I’ve found myself unsubscribed from your channel and had to resubscribe again.
What is happening..
Well I appreciate you resubscribing! 😂🤷🏻♀️
You could also try turning notifications on for all videos I upload and see if that helps. I've never had that problem of observing myself being automatically unsubscribed so I'm only speculating on what works to fix it. 😅
@@NoranAzmy this is happening to me too for multiple channels I enjoy. Not sure what's going on with UA-cam!!
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