SQ, power handling, and budget friendly don't usually go together. That said, for a noticeable increase in volume you'll need to at least double rated power. The rule is a 3 db increase for every doubling of power or doubling of woofer cone area. Tropo 15 is 450 watts RMS I believe, so assuming for something in the 1000 watt range, decent sound Q, I'd say American Bass XR series (NOT RX) . It's got composite cone, 1200, rms rating and it's decently priced. Sounds better than the XFL also. Don't get me wrong, it's still loud af, but more SQ oriented. Bob, the owner of American bass has stated its his favorite woofer they manufacture more than once on the phone. I can plug you with a good price if you need one. They retail around around $230 I believe. If budget to you means more than 200, it opens the door to many better woofers as well.
@@chief9-10-games5 look at the amp dyno run of the Orion hcca 3000splx. Through out 5000 rms at 1 ohm certified, and dynamically it burped out over 7k rms. So do your hw before you bash a company. So Orion missed their mark in the Ztreet line, people who want quality sound pay quality prices
The NVX venting is smaller by design. Smaller holes that are working in concert with the center pole vent create greater velocity and controlled directivity. The air gets to where it needs to and leaves in a hurry providing better cooling. The “weave” is actually a carbon fiber reinforcement of the non-pressed cellulose cone, adds rigidity without the weight of heavier plastic polymers; gives you the best of SQ/SPL. Of all these subs, NVX ranks best bang for my buck all day long. ;)
And I know it's hard to do all the videos on your own budget but pay NO attention to the haters you do a great job and your videos really help inform the everyday/average joe like my self.You need some sponsor's bro you deserve it .👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Never a single sundown. Garbage subs. Lol, Try a DD Audio, Gladen SQL, or Rockford T2, and hybrid audio and now you speak my language. You have no clue who I am. Peep my vids. My new zapco Z150.4AP mid range amp cost not than people's cars. If I paid full price for any of my audio that is. Dealers never do tho.
@@boosted4g638 OH your one of those types " One of my subs cost more than your whole car" Types of jackass.lol If so then why are giving crap feedback to a small channel Trying to rain on a cool dudes hobby What an uppity douche bag
Chief9-10 no shit huh? We should be encouraging the kid, not breaking him down. Especially coming out of his own pocket. Fu@k Shay Benson. Must feel super secure taking kids lunch money.
Shay, Why don't you buy one of those subs and send it to him to test? Or just send him the money for one of those high dollar subs with your request and I'm sure he'd happy to test one
Just impulse bought an American bass xr10 and I'm loving it and it's not even broken. it's sounding better every day. Sq version of xfl. 3" vc, 200oz magnet. Already best sub ive ever had
I'm running 4 XFL-15s in my Tahoe on an American Bass VFL-450.1 (The old silver one rated 4300 RMS @ 1 ohm, not the weird new black ones around 2300 RMS) at 0.5 ohm. They sure can take a beating. Definitely underrated wattage on these subs
Those dimples in the cone are the bolts holding the spider ring down hitting the cone, due to over excursion.. those bolts hit the cone before you actually bottom out the former. Turn that sub sonic up almost half way.. they will break all the way through if you’re not very careful.
Nice video Parker. Thanks for playing them all two. Good editing having the subs ready to play as soon as you were done describing them. I know that's a lot of work to switch out them subs and set em back up each time. Kudos.
The Skar is getting dimples on the cone cause it is smacking the spider plate. It’s common problem with the evl. Love the videos tho!!! Been between the bdc4 and xfls. This helped!!!
Remember, FS really isn’t a spec that can tell you for certain a sub will be able to have solid output down low. QT is a way better indicator for that! Higher the number the lower the sub will go. A cars acoustics/transfer function also plays a significant role in this as well. Most importantly, in order for a sub to get down and dirty low, gotta be sealed! Sealed boxes are just low note monsters!
Pretty sure he is just turning the volume down so they isn't clipping as badly on playback. Would take specialized equipment to properly handle the SPL caused by bass I am pretty sure and I'm uncertain if anyone really bothers to make such equipment because it's not something in demand.
Those dimples usually happen when u push the spider or surround past there throw point and it kinda makes a hexagon usually comes from playing well below box tuning, but a 2.4 db difference is a lot between the mvx and skar
Thanks for the video! I was thinking about getting a single Skar 12 but after this video I think I'll take the American Bass. If you pause @7:29 you can see where the Skar "dimples" come from. They line up directly above the screws for the spider. Lucky I found this video or I would have bought them!!!
I REALLY like the NVX subs, I have a AP TXX-BDC2 and it misses the mark on SQ but can't be beat on SPL by any other sub in it's price range of $100. I really want two NVX 12's in a large sealed for my daily commuter.
Would like if you continued this category and make a poll on the next group would like to see sundown sa and infinity kappa for example. Maybe a p3 and kicker as well.
Johnny 24 I currently have 2 12” P3’s and they disappoint, but I’m limited on trunk space. I’m looking at one (1) of these in a proper box that’ll hopefully blow my 2 P3’s away.
@@tantojutsuninpo I had 2 p3 twelves in a Honda Civic back in the day and it was super loud, i used to drive by Walmart and set off car alarms lol. But I had the old style with the green dustcap. What amp are you running?
Jason Thompson I’m using the Audiopipe APMI2000 at 2ohms so just a hair under 1500 watts to both or 700ish each. My issue was a small trunk and the biggest box I could fit was 1.6 cubes each (slot ported) the box had no breathing room. I did end up getting one AP BDC4 12” in a 2.2 cube box running the same 2 ohms final but just to one sub now. Hits the lows wayyy harder and louder but def not as clean as the P3’s. Also have much less trunk rattle.
@@tantojutsuninpo I'm sure 1.6 cubes would be fine if you tune @38 hz or something, I kind of prefer the big boomy bass over the super low notes though. I've heard some AP subs that sounded pretty good. I'm loving the American Bass though, impressive subs for the price.
I have the 2 12 p3 in 4th order was on a lp750.1d but I have to 2000.1d now & it made a big difference but have metered yet. But I eventually I wanna upgrade subs soon great subs but still want more bang🤷🏽♂️
Good vid Parker, I like Skar subs because it seems to have best of both worlds when it comes to sq and spl. American Bass seems to be your 1st favorite, which is your second ?
Nothing wrong with any of these subs. But since I am running a Audiopipe amp I went with the Audiopipe sub and I love both! I will stick with Audiopipe all the way.
Thanks for all the good videos you posted in this series. Very entertaining. I'd like to see you test the Skar VXF line at some point. They look killer for the price, just over $200.
Right on man cool vid! I’m a bit of an AP fan but for me custom subs with 4 inch coils are my preference but custom subs are not cheap and unless you dump tons of money into batteries an Alt or 3 fatty wires ect ect you can just be smart go budget build and still be happy. I hope to keep seeing your vids well off into the future maing!!!! Cause you do a real good job.
Yeah no doubt. Heck I am just running a couple subs, on an Orion amp that pushes around 4k or so RMS at 1 ohm, though I've been running it at .8 ohms which I believe bumps it up to around 5k if I'm pushing it, plus another 300 RMS amp to some 6x9's, and I have 0 gauge running from the main (battery under the hood is a good 1k CCA) back to the secondary battery a foot away from the Amps. With the Big 3 done under the hood, and exceptional grounds and all connections for the rear battery (also a 1 thousand CCA high quality marine battery) as was done everywhere.. I think I'd be pushing my battery, wiring, and alternator setup if I was to add my other sub amp, or maybe even adding my other full range 300/600 RMS amp to another set of components or 3 ways etc I think that I would be pushing it past what it can safety put out to power the Amps enough
I think really you just get what you pay for so as long you as you don’t get something ridiculously cheap and you get something you personally like that fits your needs you will be fine
It’s a common misconception that copper can’t handle heat when in actuality the melting point of copper is significantly higher than aluminum. Aluminum’s better at heat dissipation but you sacrifice motor force and low end output. I’m a copper guy or as a compromise a cca guy but I never like the sound of pure aluminum coils.
@@lukeglavan yes I got one in a large ported box and it hits harder than the 2 Punch P3 12’s I had before using the same amp. Very happy with this sub. It def hits lower but not as good for non-rap music.
I think you should preface this with what your electrical setup is. amp, batteries, wiring, etc. You are likely not running a cheap setup with no batteries on a stock alternator. This may lead people to believe that they can acheive 140+db just by buying these subs and throwing 1k watts at them when that is definitly not the case.
@James Tyler I just bought a 2nd new xtr 2500dz. Ain't even filed taxes yet. If u live paycheck to paycheck pry should be saving that tax money. But I hear ya I'm ready for all the deals next month when they broke. Need a new TV for my garage... Long as NFL don't end up cancelling over this Corona virus 😷😫
Cool comparison Parker stay pushing your knowledge forward buddy, the more you know the better you can teach and inform others, great job bro keep it up
I wish I hadn't been so stupid in my early days and exposed myself to loud music especially powerfull bass - got serious hearing damage now - all my top frequency from 3.5K is gone forever!! never believed it when I was young.
Xfl for the win.....been saying that for a few years now, straight budget banger that'll eat about any amp you can toss at it so it's capable to stay banging as u upgrade your system. Perfect for starting out from nothing and making something.
You do know that you can't stick 4 different subs into the same box and expect them all to perform at their peak, right? Each of those subs has different airspace and port tuning requirements. You should know this, bro. The test was not fair at all, it only demonstrated which subs sounds best in YOUR box. 🤦🏻♂️
It would take a lot to make all these shine and make all of them n a different box this is a budget minded person with sub ten K subs ik when I build a box it can cost me 250 easily
It's still a flawed review. It doesn't show which sub is best. If someone has a smaller box or is tuned to a different frequency then they would have different results. So basically the test was useless unless you have an identical box.
@@tomaskobel3446 I think it is an opinion just like everything on UA-cam, he did the best he could with what he had, but yes u could throw a sa 12 n a burp box and our do most of any 700$ sub by just changing the box bur he is just showing what the average bass head can do with what he has we all r here for the same reason #ftlob
Am I the only one that thinks audiopipe subwoofers are straight wacky looking. For a chinese sub they seem to have their own unique buildhouse as their parts seem to be "proprietary". Their baskets, terminals cones, ect are so fkn cheesy looking. I absolutely hate the look of em. If I'm spending that kind of money i'm buying NVX for sound quality or American bass XFL/XR for SPL 10/10 times
Have two Skar VD 10"s. Running skar 1200.1 @ 1ohm. Man im impressed with these subs. they get ridiculous Excursion spl and clarity. Rated at 500 watt RMS but I'm feeding them 750 each on The Daily. They pound! Extremely underrated subs and amps.
Got two skar svr 10s running on a taramp 3000 at 1 ohm. Had it on a skar 1500 and that amp was a complete pos. Draws my battery way down and doesn't even hit that hard and when I'd play deep bass it would drop to 9 volts and clip like crazy. Taramp 3000 and my volts stay at 14-13v and hits way harder with no clipping. Lowest it drops is 12.7 with gain at half on rebassed songs. Stock 75 amp alternator and stock 750 ca battery
Sort out your audio. It’s way too quiet. If you can’t get the levels right when you’re recording, then fix them in post-production. normalise your levels. You have a channel about audio reproduction ffs!
Those subs are for spl only not for music reproduction. If your into that that's fine, but if your into music Those are not the ones you want. Quick example , the bigger the magnet the less efficient it is, that means you will spend alot of money to move them. THE MORE EFFICIENT THE BETTER. You won't have to buy a bigger amp to get the same spl out of them. Just a heads up in speakers.
build a death box from decware then youll be able to tune it to your vehicle and theres different options of speaker placement the best is 2 12in clamshelled wired out of phase
I would love for u to eventually try a massive hippo XL 12 4000 watt. 2 ohm. But u would have to step the amp up. I would love to see the ratings on that sub. Think they list for 299.00
@Jordxn im underpowering the subs due to so i wont damage the alternator but im running the skar marine rp 800.1dm its 800 watts rms still sounds strong and will be punching hard
My whole basement of my house is now a giant audio tune /test playground of ideas. Basically. My basement it self. Is the inside of the biggest 6th order band pass box possible. Hand built subs. And amps and I just add to it everytime I can afford more amperage. Anyway. Wanted to share that with you. My stair case out. Is (if there was one ) the port. So. If I put 6x9 in my window and then turn it up. My entire block feels it
You absolutely missed a sub man. The EMF Lowballer. Under 200 and would smoke them all. I think Sean even has them marked down from 199 to 179 right now.
Yeah man there are a ton of great options for under $200. These are just the 4 that I had and people had been asking me to make a video of which one I liked best
Magic black coil sauce. LOL. I'm definitely a SQ guy. My unit is plenty big that I don't need to have the highest spl. I just want some great sound. Not sure who to watch for that content.
Worth noting that there's complaints out there that the skar basket is easily broken on atleast one model. Not sure about the extent of the issue but I've seen a video or two on it.
@@funhaver420 I'm not a nigga but yeah I said Kicker. Their CVX's are solid subs that go hard. Anyone that disagrees has never ran them or is just a hater. I've been running mine at full power for 8 years now and it will probably last at least 8 more. All those other subs are nice too but people still out hear pounding their 20 year old kickers. Not many others can say that. There's a reason recone kits are so easy to find for spl subs but not for kickers. I'm not claiming kicker is the best, I'm not one of these sundown fanboys but anyone that says kicker is trash doesn't know shit about car audio.
any sub with a double spaced spider like the american base is designed better because it holds the coil in the centre of the motor slot better.............
All your videos are awesome and keep up the great work! Can’t wait to for more Subwoofers hopefully you can do the Wolfram Subwoofers and CT Sounds Subwoofers and Crossfire Subwoofers!
Probably has dimples because the box is not built for it. That or you were clipping or overpowering maybe... thats a maybe. Never seen a sub just dimple
At 9:35 how do you cut your subwoofer box bigger once it's already been cutted out previously? I can't find no videos on UA-cam on how to do that. Plz help. I like your videos and that Nikon camera 💪😎 can't wait to get my camera for my vlog.. so yeah, how do you cut it bigger?? 🤔
LevelUpLiving You can use a jigsaw w/a steady hand or a router with an even steadier hand or a jig to use as a shoulder to guide the router to make your hole bigger. Add a baffle to go smaller..
blew my skar dont like it changed the box cuz da box sound like it was guna break in half changed it in another box sound way better but den blew in 3 days maybe pushing too much power idk
IMO Skar = Junk Subs. Bought 2 brand new ones and with clean power, no distortion and they both blew within 5 minutes. Never even pushed them 100%. I'd recommend Resilient Sounds, SoundQubed, Sundown and more but never Skar.
For your next review try the Walmart scosche 12 inch sealed sub box it’s around 40 dollars and is definitely worth it in my opinion. Even comes with a little bit of poly fill
For the ADHD people heres the final verdict American bass #1 audiopipe #2 . Your welcome
I agree. I use AB for budget builds at my shop. That said, all of these sound like shit lol.
No. American bass. "AB". Didn't want to type it, guess I had to now anyway lol.
SQ, power handling, and budget friendly don't usually go together. That said, for a noticeable increase in volume you'll need to at least double rated power. The rule is a 3 db increase for every doubling of power or doubling of woofer cone area.
Tropo 15 is 450 watts RMS I believe, so assuming for something in the 1000 watt range, decent sound Q, I'd say American Bass XR series (NOT RX) . It's got composite cone, 1200, rms rating and it's decently priced. Sounds better than the XFL also. Don't get me wrong, it's still loud af, but more SQ oriented. Bob, the owner of American bass has stated its his favorite woofer they manufacture more than once on the phone.
I can plug you with a good price if you need one. They retail around around $230 I believe.
If budget to you means more than 200, it opens the door to many better woofers as well.
@@boosted4g638 And what trash do you run don't tell me Sundown OVERPRICED trash lol People like YOU always talking ish
@@chief9-10-games5 look at the amp dyno run of the Orion hcca 3000splx. Through out 5000 rms at 1 ohm certified, and dynamically it burped out over 7k rms. So do your hw before you bash a company. So Orion missed their mark in the Ztreet line, people who want quality sound pay quality prices
Should have played the same song for each sub
The NVX venting is smaller by design. Smaller holes that are working in concert with the center pole vent create greater velocity and controlled directivity. The air gets to where it needs to and leaves in a hurry providing better cooling. The “weave” is actually a carbon fiber reinforcement of the non-pressed cellulose cone, adds rigidity without the weight of heavier plastic polymers; gives you the best of SQ/SPL. Of all these subs, NVX ranks best bang for my buck all day long. ;)
Awesome,I was thinking bout buying two nvx122 12's go with my 4 fosgate 8's.
Was thinking of doing the NVX VCW V.3 15’s for the best sql. They’re the newer version 1200 watts rms a piece.
And I know it's hard to do all the videos on your own budget but pay NO attention to the haters you do a great job and your videos really help inform the everyday/average joe like my self.You need some sponsor's bro you deserve it .👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Really appreciate you! This is very encouraging
Never a single sundown. Garbage subs. Lol,
Try a DD Audio, Gladen SQL, or Rockford T2, and hybrid audio and now you speak my language. You have no clue who I am. Peep my vids. My new zapco Z150.4AP mid range amp cost not than people's cars. If I paid full price for any of my audio that is. Dealers never do tho.
@@boosted4g638 OH your one of those types " One of my subs cost more than your whole car" Types of jackass.lol If so then why are giving crap feedback to a small channel Trying to rain on a cool dudes hobby What an uppity douche bag
Chief9-10 no shit huh? We should be encouraging the kid, not breaking him down. Especially coming out of his own pocket. Fu@k Shay Benson. Must feel super secure taking kids lunch money.
Shay, Why don't you buy one of those subs and send it to him to test? Or just send him the money for one of those high dollar subs with your request and I'm sure he'd happy to test one
Love the way the Skar looks and underdog story is always a good story.
12:06 the little bug had me dying 🤣🤣🤣
The XFL is such a damn nice looking sub imo. I love that ribbed surround and the red stitching looks great.
Just impulse bought an American bass xr10 and I'm loving it and it's not even broken. it's sounding better every day. Sq version of xfl. 3" vc, 200oz magnet. Already best sub ive ever had
I really need to get an XR ASAP!
rmblwgn I got a sa10v3 and was gonna switch to either a xr10 or a xfl 10 I just can’t decide which one
@@israeltorres4109 get xr10 run 1000-1500rms
I'm running 4 XFL-15s in my Tahoe on an American Bass VFL-450.1 (The old silver one rated 4300 RMS @ 1 ohm, not the weird new black ones around 2300 RMS) at 0.5 ohm. They sure can take a beating. Definitely underrated wattage on these subs
Those dimples in the cone are the bolts holding the spider ring down hitting the cone, due to over excursion.. those bolts hit the cone before you actually bottom out the former. Turn that sub sonic up almost half way.. they will break all the way through if you’re not very careful.
Nice video Parker. Thanks for playing them all two. Good editing having the subs ready to play as soon as you were done describing them. I know that's a lot of work to switch out them subs and set em back up each time. Kudos.
All excursions
Nvx 4:40
Evl 8:15
Ap 12:06
ABass 15:21
The Skar is getting dimples on the cone cause it is smacking the spider plate. It’s common problem with the evl. Love the videos tho!!! Been between the bdc4 and xfls. This helped!!!
Interesting! Thanks
Good to know, but sure doesn't seem like the mechanics are functioning properly
I have 2 EVL’s and both have those dimples. They both play fine though.
2.7 cube box, but the NVX prefers 1.85.. Plus u said the NVX sounded cleaner.. NVX it is..
Remember, FS really isn’t a spec that can tell you for certain a sub will be able to have solid output down low. QT is a way better indicator for that! Higher the number the lower the sub will go. A cars acoustics/transfer function also plays a significant role in this as well. Most importantly, in order for a sub to get down and dirty low, gotta be sealed! Sealed boxes are just low note monsters!
Down and dirty yeah but ground pounding maybe not as much with sealed
I played this video in my 8" home subwoofer and my house was vibrating! What camera do you use cause it can record the bass clearly
The Last King bruh😂😂
He used a Nikon camera. Maybe a 5600 model
Pretty sure he is just turning the volume down so they isn't clipping as badly on playback. Would take specialized equipment to properly handle the SPL caused by bass I am pretty sure and I'm uncertain if anyone really bothers to make such equipment because it's not something in demand.
Dude said this just to flex his subwoofer system
Those dimples usually happen when u push the spider or surround past there throw point and it kinda makes a hexagon usually comes from playing well below box tuning, but a 2.4 db difference is a lot between the mvx and skar
Thanks for the video! I was thinking about getting a single Skar 12 but after this video I think I'll take the American Bass. If you pause @7:29 you can see where the Skar "dimples" come from. They line up directly above the screws for the spider. Lucky I found this video or I would have bought them!!!
Audio pipes all day son
I REALLY like the NVX subs, I have a AP TXX-BDC2 and it misses the mark on SQ but can't be beat on SPL by any other sub in it's price range of $100. I really want two NVX 12's in a large sealed for my daily commuter.
Would like if you continued this category and make a poll on the next group would like to see sundown sa and infinity kappa for example. Maybe a p3 and kicker as well.
Johnny 24 I currently have 2 12” P3’s and they disappoint, but I’m limited on trunk space. I’m looking at one (1) of these in a proper box that’ll hopefully blow my 2 P3’s away.
@@tantojutsuninpo I had 2 p3 twelves in a Honda Civic back in the day and it was super loud, i used to drive by Walmart and set off car alarms lol. But I had the old style with the green dustcap. What amp are you running?
Jason Thompson I’m using the Audiopipe APMI2000 at 2ohms so just a hair under 1500 watts to both or 700ish each. My issue was a small trunk and the biggest box I could fit was 1.6 cubes each (slot ported) the box had no breathing room. I did end up getting one AP BDC4 12” in a 2.2 cube box running the same 2 ohms final but just to one sub now. Hits the lows wayyy harder and louder but def not as clean as the P3’s. Also have much less trunk rattle.
@@tantojutsuninpo I'm sure 1.6 cubes would be fine if you tune @38 hz or something, I kind of prefer the big boomy bass over the super low notes though. I've heard some AP subs that sounded pretty good. I'm loving the American Bass though, impressive subs for the price.
I have the 2 12 p3 in 4th order was on a lp750.1d but I have to 2000.1d now & it made a big difference but have metered yet. But I eventually I wanna upgrade subs soon great subs but still want more bang🤷🏽♂️
The AudioPipe's cone is under the stiff woven cap. That stiff cap helps keep the cone in shape but that curved woven facia is the cap, not the cone.
Good vid Parker, I like Skar subs because it seems to have best of both worlds when it comes to sq and spl. American Bass seems to be your 1st favorite, which is your second ?
Personally the audio pipe would be my 2nd as it dug lower but the EVL was a close third
@@ParkerTheBasshead Thanks bro
I'm still rocking a Elemental Design 12" 13Ov.2 subwoofer for my home theater. It won't quit. This video gave me some good options.
I have 2 nvx 12 "and these subwoofers are very strong I have used them for more than 4 years and they still sound without problems
That boy playin that ‘em 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Shouldnt same song been played for all subs?
I have built a lot of subs over the past 20+ years. I will take the American Base all day long over the others.
Lemme just say I have't had any of those subs but ive have the audiopipe' bd4 15s and bd2 12s and they sound really good for the price.
Nothing wrong with any of these subs. But since I am running a Audiopipe amp I went with the Audiopipe sub and I love both! I will stick with Audiopipe all the way.
Thanks for all the good videos you posted in this series. Very entertaining. I'd like to see you test the Skar VXF line at some point. They look killer for the price, just over $200.
I know!! That’s what I wanted to get instead of the EVL but more people voted on the EVL. But I plan to get a VXF sometime
Ive had vxf 12 and 15 right now.i don't care for the vxf 12 basket.
I have 2 vxf 12s on a smart 3k
They still need to make a 10 inch vxf. Might have sonthing to do with the oversized cap.
I agree the audiopipe thermals are week i hade the bd412s and broke one trying to tighten it good work bro
Right on man cool vid! I’m a bit of an AP fan but for me custom subs with 4 inch coils are my preference but custom subs are not cheap and unless you dump tons of money into batteries an Alt or 3 fatty wires ect ect you can just be smart go budget build and still be happy. I hope to keep seeing your vids well off into the future maing!!!! Cause you do a real good job.
Yeah no doubt. Heck I am just running a couple subs, on an Orion amp that pushes around 4k or so RMS at 1 ohm, though I've been running it at .8 ohms which I believe bumps it up to around 5k if I'm pushing it, plus another 300 RMS amp to some 6x9's, and I have 0 gauge running from the main (battery under the hood is a good 1k CCA) back to the secondary battery a foot away from the Amps. With the Big 3 done under the hood, and exceptional grounds and all connections for the rear battery (also a 1 thousand CCA high quality marine battery) as was done everywhere..
I think I'd be pushing my battery, wiring, and alternator setup if I was to add my other sub amp, or maybe even adding my other full range 300/600 RMS amp to another set of components or 3 ways etc I think that I would be pushing it past what it can safety put out to power the Amps enough
I think really you just get what you pay for so as long you as you don’t get something ridiculously cheap and you get something you personally like that fits your needs you will be fine
Does the Rockville sticker provide theft deterrence? Like an ADT sign in your lawn?
Got eeemmmm
Hahahaha yep!! Worked pretty well so far
Exactly why I put a boss sticker on my window lol not really worth the time lol.....
@@chrisminjarez8508 Genius !
How are Rockville subs any good/clean bass ?
If you are going to run sealed definately get the NVX VCW.
I can feel the bass in my ears while using my samsung buds
It’s a common misconception that copper can’t handle heat when in actuality the melting point of copper is significantly higher than aluminum. Aluminum’s better at heat dissipation but you sacrifice motor force and low end output. I’m a copper guy or as a compromise a cca guy but I never like the sound of pure aluminum coils.
Well, I already have the APMI 2K amp so it looks like I’ll be getting the AP BDC4. Thanks for the video
Did you end up getting the bdc4 i wana get 2. Please let me know
@@lukeglavan yes I got one in a large ported box and it hits harder than the 2 Punch P3 12’s I had before using the same amp. Very happy with this sub. It def hits lower but not as good for non-rap music.
Did you have to upgrade your power supply? (battery etc )
I think you should preface this with what your electrical setup is. amp, batteries, wiring, etc. You are likely not running a cheap setup with no batteries on a stock alternator. This may lead people to believe that they can acheive 140+db just by buying these subs and throwing 1k watts at them when that is definitly not the case.
I really appreciate the effort you put into what you do man. Please keep the videos coming.
Glad to see this video you said you were going to make!
I’d take the American bass out of all of those imo
@James Tyler soooooo agreed
@James Tyler lol🤣🤣, but true
@James Tyler I just bought a 2nd new xtr 2500dz. Ain't even filed taxes yet. If u live paycheck to paycheck pry should be saving that tax money. But I hear ya I'm ready for all the deals next month when they broke. Need a new TV for my garage... Long as NFL don't end up cancelling over this Corona virus 😷😫
James Tyler how I got my bd3s
American Bass w6s really got louder then ab? That’s hard to believe
Really big center caps are good for cooling. The center cap helps cool the sub. Other than blocking dust.
Cool comparison Parker stay pushing your knowledge forward buddy, the more you know the better you can teach and inform others, great job bro keep it up
I’ve had a few different Skar systems and the bang hard and take a beating
I wish I hadn't been so stupid in my early days and exposed myself to loud music especially powerfull bass - got serious hearing damage now - all my top frequency from 3.5K is gone forever!! never believed it when I was young.
ever heard of a volume knob?? Music doesnt always have to be played at the highest possible volume :/
Lows won’t damage your hearing. It’s the highs that hurt
12:15 the bug completely unfazed 💀😂
Dude you are like the subwoofer version of Ryan Blankenship (amp budget gem or budget bust guy who amp dynoes cheap amps).
Haha thanks man! He definitely inspired me
Xfl for the win.....been saying that for a few years now, straight budget banger that'll eat about any amp you can toss at it so it's capable to stay banging as u upgrade your system. Perfect for starting out from nothing and making something.
You do know that you can't stick 4 different subs into the same box and expect them all to perform at their peak, right? Each of those subs has different airspace and port tuning requirements. You should know this, bro. The test was not fair at all, it only demonstrated which subs sounds best in YOUR box. 🤦🏻♂️
Yes we all know that. This is just a general review.
It would take a lot to make all these shine and make all of them n a different box this is a budget minded person with sub ten K subs ik when I build a box it can cost me 250 easily
It's still a flawed review. It doesn't show which sub is best. If someone has a smaller box or is tuned to a different frequency then they would have different results. So basically the test was useless unless you have an identical box.
@@tomaskobel3446 I think it is an opinion just like everything on UA-cam, he did the best he could with what he had, but yes u could throw a sa 12 n a burp box and our do most of any 700$ sub by just changing the box bur he is just showing what the average bass head can do with what he has we all r here for the same reason #ftlob
Jeeze bro we're just having fun
Am I the only one that thinks audiopipe subwoofers are straight wacky looking. For a chinese sub they seem to have their own unique buildhouse as their parts seem to be "proprietary". Their baskets, terminals cones, ect are so fkn cheesy looking. I absolutely hate the look of em. If I'm spending that kind of money i'm buying NVX for sound quality or American bass XFL/XR for SPL 10/10 times
I actually like their baskets a lot and the cones on the BDC4 subs but yeah their terminals are pretty dumb
Hey! Hey! I've been waiting on this video for sure 👍. Love them all.... God bless my dude. I would really , really love to own any of those subs....
Thanks dude!!
A shit sub in a well built tuned box will outperform a quality sub in a crap box. It was true in 2008 and it’s true in 2022. Thank you physics.
So so very true. Wish more people understood this.
Your camera microphone win in my opinion!!
the marks on the skar cone are from the allen heads that hold the spider down u literally slapped the back of the cone on the spider landing
I'll stick with my AP. hasn't failed me yet🙃💯
Ant B do u have the bdc4 12s
@@southcityexotics6761 I have 2 of them in a horn ported box
@@garrison7547 still workin?
Well Parker, it’s been a while since I’ve seen your last setup and you have upgraded your sound system a lot, keep on goin man 👍🏻
Have two Skar VD 10"s. Running skar 1200.1 @ 1ohm. Man im impressed with these subs. they get ridiculous Excursion spl and clarity. Rated at 500 watt RMS but I'm feeding them 750 each on The Daily. They pound! Extremely underrated subs and amps.
Got two skar svr 10s running on a taramp 3000 at 1 ohm. Had it on a skar 1500 and that amp was a complete pos. Draws my battery way down and doesn't even hit that hard and when I'd play deep bass it would drop to 9 volts and clip like crazy. Taramp 3000 and my volts stay at 14-13v and hits way harder with no clipping. Lowest it drops is 12.7 with gain at half on rebassed songs. Stock 75 amp alternator and stock 750 ca battery
@@cheddarballs864 Interesting who Woulda thought a 3000w amp would be more powerful and hit harder than a 1500w.👌
Very nice assessment.. All are nice subs for the price range.. Dope video!!!
Thanks man!
I think audiopipe needs more recognition ill take ap over kickers anyday but ab over ap only the hd lol that rhymes
Sort out your audio. It’s way too quiet. If you can’t get the levels right when you’re recording, then fix them in post-production. normalise your levels.
You have a channel about audio reproduction ffs!
How ya gonna name ya self after a damn gun and have a man bun ?!
Stan Stan son listen man dad isn’t mad
Trash
what good is a machine gun without no ammo??
@@mcullen0012 what’s trash?? Cuz I KNOW you ain’t talkin bout Em.
Those subs are for spl only not for music reproduction. If your into that that's fine, but if your into music Those are not the ones you want. Quick example , the bigger the magnet the less efficient it is, that means you will spend alot of money to move them. THE MORE EFFICIENT THE BETTER. You won't have to buy a bigger amp to get the same spl out of them. Just a heads up in speakers.
Skar for the win!!
Yes sir!!!
Never
American bass subs are the best they handle anything you throw at em remind me of w7
nvx 4:33
skar audio 8:03
audiopipe 11:31
american bass 15:14
john paul dela cruz thank you soooooo much 🙂
Thank you Sir for the time frames! 👍
Skar wins
build a death box from decware then youll be able to tune it to your vehicle and theres different options of speaker placement the best is 2 12in clamshelled wired out of phase
Gotta love americanbass!! Great vid man
Thanks dude!
Audiopipe ftw
I would love for u to eventually try a massive hippo XL 12 4000 watt. 2 ohm. But u would have to step the amp up. I would love to see the ratings on that sub. Think they list for 299.00
I like all these subs but i like the skars personally bc they kick and havent failed me yet and a new sub id try is american bass
@Jordxn i got the svr's 12 and still running close to a year and im running 2 of them and dont regret at all
@Jordxn im underpowering the subs due to so i wont damage the alternator but im running the skar marine rp 800.1dm its 800 watts rms still sounds strong and will be punching hard
My whole basement of my house is now a giant audio tune /test playground of ideas. Basically. My basement it self. Is the inside of the biggest 6th order band pass box possible. Hand built subs. And amps and I just add to it everytime I can afford more amperage. Anyway. Wanted to share that with you. My stair case out. Is (if there was one ) the port. So. If I put 6x9 in my window and then turn it up. My entire block feels it
If I open the door. They will feel it. And I can set off car alarms up to 3 city blocks out all at once lol
I'm a new subscriber. I love your videos.
Really good to hear!
I have noticed that the audio companies are focusing more on spl and less on sq . Jlaudio and mtx do a good job at both Orion is another
When companies started outsourcing to china and pretending tsp'd didn't matter everything went to shit. Zero upgrades in 14 years.
You absolutely missed a sub man. The EMF Lowballer. Under 200 and would smoke them all. I think Sean even has them marked down from 199 to 179 right now.
Yeah man there are a ton of great options for under $200. These are just the 4 that I had and people had been asking me to make a video of which one I liked best
@@ParkerTheBasshead Yeah, just thought I'd put it out there, food for thought lol
What's y'alls opinion on the t5 soundstream??
nvx is copper coil also
the kicker L7 12 solo baric is now under $200 and yas #1 american Bass #2 Audiopipe #3 NVX #4 Skar
Ya there also only between 600-750 rms watts.
Ant B yeah I've heard they can easily take 1200 with proper electrical/Tune
That American Bass sub is UGLY. Specs are very good, but it’s just UGLY. Wouldn’t buy just because of how it looks...
never witness any but from ur camra...the audiopipe sounds much better...!!!
It definitely hit the lowest 👌🏻
Magic black coil sauce. LOL. I'm definitely a SQ guy. My unit is plenty big that I don't need to have the highest spl. I just want some great sound. Not sure who to watch for that content.
Worth noting that there's complaints out there that the skar basket is easily broken on atleast one model. Not sure about the extent of the issue but I've seen a video or two on it.
Was under two 2 years ago and there now what??? Seems inflation is going up around 50/60 dollars a year now...crazy
I'd like to see a Kicker CVX compared to these considering it's rated at the same power and now around the same price... Just for the haters.
this niqqa said "kicker" AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
@@funhaver420 I'm not a nigga but yeah I said Kicker. Their CVX's are solid subs that go hard. Anyone that disagrees has never ran them or is just a hater. I've been running mine at full power for 8 years now and it will probably last at least 8 more. All those other subs are nice too but people still out hear pounding their 20 year old kickers. Not many others can say that. There's a reason recone kits are so easy to find for spl subs but not for kickers. I'm not claiming kicker is the best, I'm not one of these sundown fanboys but anyone that says kicker is trash doesn't know shit about car audio.
Kekker
Kicker is still a great subwoofer.....but back in my day......early 90s....they were top dog and built to last
any sub with a double spaced spider like the american base is designed better because it holds the coil in the centre of the motor slot better.............
NVX hands down on SQ but for any of the other subs I woulda picked Dark Audio Industries DKI
I picked one up and will be reviewing it soon. However, unfortunately DAI just went out of business :((
For SQ people the NVX would be the winner low FS compared to the others under hung voice coil softer cone it's more aimed for the sql crowd.
Ayyye Rittz 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Was waiting to see this comment 😂
Love EVL 12D2 😍
My new bdc4 I got in today has the black high heat coil they changed it I guess cause it's not copper its black
I NEEDED THIS VIDEO! THANK YOU!
Glad it helped man!
All your videos are awesome and keep up the great work! Can’t wait to for more Subwoofers hopefully you can do the Wolfram Subwoofers and CT Sounds Subwoofers and Crossfire Subwoofers!
Hahaha that's so funny, I have that exact same dish towel!!!!! LMFAO
Probably has dimples because the box is not built for it. That or you were clipping or overpowering maybe... thats a maybe. Never seen a sub just dimple
At 9:35 how do you cut your subwoofer box bigger once it's already been cutted out previously? I can't find no videos on UA-cam on how to do that. Plz help. I like your videos and that Nikon camera 💪😎 can't wait to get my camera for my vlog.. so yeah, how do you cut it bigger?? 🤔
What battery do you used for the back of the car?
I just cut the hole in the box for the sub bigger. And I have a full throttle AGM battery
LevelUpLiving
You can use a jigsaw w/a steady hand or a router with an even steadier hand or a jig to use as a shoulder to guide the router to make your hole bigger. Add a baffle to go smaller..
Great review and testing the products. Thanks 😊 for doing this. But still have Cerwin Vega for my budget sub.
blew my skar dont like it changed the box cuz da box sound like it was guna break in half changed it in another box sound way better but den blew in 3 days maybe pushing too much power idk
IMO Skar = Junk Subs. Bought 2 brand new ones and with clean power, no distortion and they both blew within 5 minutes. Never even pushed them 100%. I'd recommend Resilient Sounds, SoundQubed, Sundown and more but never Skar.
OCD Garage glad im not the only one i replaced it with a audiopipe triple magnet 15in which is cheaper nd it has not blown yet
@@JerzeYxKinG That sub will easily out perform the Skar. And should last too lol.
For your next review try the Walmart scosche 12 inch sealed sub box it’s around 40 dollars and is definitely worth it in my opinion. Even comes with a little bit of poly fill
I have a w7 that I have in a w7 box and for some reason I feel like I should of bought 5 American bass subs for what I paid for the one 12 I have smh
Hahahahaha
Yup, W7 are overpriced AF, and overrated IMO. You could still sell it used and get maybe 3 American bass subs...
I have 2 xfl 10s on a smart 5k with 3 xs power batteries they can take a beating!