Can you put watercolour paint in waterbrushes?
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- Update August 2019: THEY CLOGGED
Let's find out. The waterbrushes I've used are the Pentel Aquash waterbrushes.
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Here's an update on the watercolour in waterbrushes. They clogged. :-/
If i clean out the waterbrush after i use it, will it be ok? Like if i dont let it sit with the paint in it
@@mikuenjoyerXD If you want to do that, it's better to just use a normal brush. Those portable pocket brushes
Hi Teoh! Thank you for going to all this effort; I don't think I will try this. Like you, I prefer to mix my colors on the palette, so this is not worth it for me. Also, I rarely use waterbrushes anyway, as I don't like the lack of control of the water. But it was an interesting video! Thanks again.
Maybe try it with transparent watercolour inks? Those tend to be much smaller pigment particles which are less prone to sedimentation over time so maybe they won't clog the pen feed.
I use liquid aquarel in the aquabrushes... no clogging ;)
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I took Chinese black ink and diluted it 70% and 20% w water and filled three brush pens ( one straight black). It works terrifically! I love having grey scale values around so easily
Hi Suzala, I've been trying to figure out what black ink I can use this way. What ink do you use? And when you say one was straight black, do you mean 100% ink? Thanks! David
@@davidlachmanartist I bought black chinese ink in a large plastic square container. There are many brands. It is made from soot I believe. It is very common. One is indeed just straight ink with no water. I have been told to thin with distilled water next time. I guess so it is more stable. Good luck @suzalele
I think I need more water colour brushes. I really need to do grey scaling too😍
Indian ink or liquid sumi ink both come in big and small bottles and different types also have a tint to them so you can get some with a red tint to the black and some a blue tint to the black ink.... lovely effects from them
@@davidlachmanartist either Indian ink or liquid sumi ink
I would steer clear of sedimentary paints and use transparent colours which are less likely to clog the brush.
I don't know, there are plenty of options out there for dye based water color but if these can handle pigments at all I'd be willing to clean them out after each use.
I think if you take the brush tip off and rinse it out. Then place it back on the pen and store it upright would cut down on clogged brushes.
Pigmented paint isn’t going to clog the brush. Have you seen how much water flows out of those brushes? The pigment granules are too small for clogging. Any gum Arabic that may dry will reconstitute immediately. Stop making problems in your mind. Looks like pretty messy painting though with so much water. It achieves a new and different effect.
even if you manage to clog them with some particularly gritty paint, it's not a big deal. they're quite easy to disassemble and clean, just push on the black ferrule around the brush tip. the pigments settling down in the tank causes more trouble.
Or ecoline. But that's not very lightfast.
Can you make an update video on this in a few weeks, to clarify whether the pigment will clog the brush or not? Because that's why I've never tried this before, I was too worried to ruin my water brushes that way.
I would also like to know what happens in the update. Clogged brushes is not fun.
Great comment, I would love an update also, THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO!
I have tried this before. The brush did clog and I was unable to get it to work as well as it did before I put the watercolor in.
@@PortableXombie Thanks for sharing this helps. Guess I wont be keeping the watercolor in there for long
This is what I was wondering as well as what colors will stain the brush.
Sometimes the water brush sucks in the color inside the tube anyway.
I though that's how they worked💀
Lol
Oof
Same
Same, but it was because an artist that I used to follow would always fill them with ink and post pictures about it 🤧
Awaria Zycie Heikala? But she use Pentel Pocket Brush, not these kinds
looks sort of fun but I can just see me with leaky brushes everywhere lol
Yes for me i tend to be messy and mix whatever i feel like lol so making the brush pen loaded with paint is not great 4 me ... i actually prefer water colour ink with a pipette instead
6:19 You made my day here buddy! When you spilled the yellow I felt your pain across the internet! Nice videos!
I did this with my PH martins. Worked real well. I even made a couple with that pinata alcohol ink. Never with pan paint though.
I was going to suggest the same thing. I've also used diluted Noodler's Ink, the Lexington Grey, because it is waterproof when dry, even when it's diluted.
I was thinking the same thing while watching this👍
I'm interested in using my colored ph martins inks but im nervous that it will ruin my brush because india ink is super difficult to clean off of things
Candle Lynx PH Martin isn’t normal India ink. I haven’t had issues with it solidifying in the brush or valve like normal India ink would do.
Would it work with the hydrus line too?
The pigments you chose are easily making your painting very muddy/contaminating your color in the brushes, I'd recommend using more vibrant colors if you wanna go for mixing a lot. RGB is not working well with paint. CMY is gonna get you much better results
Very interesting. I've considered doing this, but I don't have enough water brushes around. I think your final sketch looks very nice, but it looked challenging to regulate the amount of water on the page.
I appreciate this demonstration. Thank you! I tried Diamine glimmer ink in a waterbrush once and it was an epic fail! I really like that you are experimenting with using materials in different ways to see what you can achieve. It's always a good lesson, especially about not being timid to dive in and try something out to see what happens. Sometimes it's intimidating to worry how work will turn out. It can be discouraging to spend time on work and then get an unpleasant surprise. We can learn from others though, and you really give examples that allow a viewer to make an informed choice about their techniques and materials and apply them to their own art. Thanks for doing that!
As for using these watercolors, it seemed to work better than the ink I tried, which had flow issues. To me, the convenience of using three water brushes with primaries doesn't seem worth the loss of control and flexibility one gets with decent brushes and differing pigment loads as the work progresses. When I think about the example you did recently with the Artgraf block shaped "graphite" primaries, or other limited pallette studies you do, the results seem far superior, and reliably so, than this technique did.
I’ve been wondering about this forever Teoh! Thanks for testing it out.
I use PH Martin's Hydrus with my water-brush, because it's already mixed and liquid. I have kept them for almost 6 months and no clogging has occurred yet.
Oh yeah, my water-brush is Pentel Arts Aquash Water Brush.
I believe one waterbrush with grey would be more useful than one with black.
You can dilute the black to make grey
Black is still a unique colour i disagree ... perhaps its cus i use highly concentration water colour ink
muhammad patel nah the undertones are different.
I liked it more than i thought. Lightfast waterbrushes (unlike many inks). I imagine least granulating would be best longterm. This is an excellent way to get artists who over-mix their colors on the palette to get a more variegated result :)
I've diluted some inks and put them in a couple water brushes to try this, too. It seemed to work okay, although they were much wetter than a typical ink brush pen and weren't very good to use on regular sketch paper.
Why u use regular paper does it jot bleed?
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This is so convenient and would be perfect for traveling!
It worked much better than I expected. I can see having certain commonly used colours in this form, but I think it creates as many problems as it might solve.
Often wondered about this thanks! I have a few of these brushes filled with diluted ink which works really well but I'm pleased to see it work well with watercolour too.
Why is this so calming? hehe, that's a really good sketch btw!
Simple line work with primary colour blends, this is really lovely
I keep a rag with me when I'm using my water brushes, and when I need to pick up color, I dry my brush on the rag, then can pick up the wet color. It's not ideal, but it does work.
This is the first video of yours I’ve seen. I just picked it randomly, and I already learned so much. Subscribed.
A thing that I know is going to help at least a little with the paint clogging or sticking to the walls of the water reservoir is putting a small screw or something alike, preferably that doesn't rust, in there to help mix the watercolor, it also helps with the paint and the water separating.
I've a few stainless steel ball bearings
@@teohyc Those should be great!
Great idea!
Amazing, I loved your sketch and Sky
I really love the result, it has a lovely carefree feeling :)
Pretty cool - I will try this! Thank you for the time you give to share !
Fantastic idea! Thanks for sharing!
So interesting to watch this. Thank you!
I have some water brushes I’ve put watercolor and ink in and I love them especially for big washes or on the go
TFS, Teoh! Interesting! ✨👍🏾
This looks like it would be fun to try. 🖌🎨
For some reason this really reminds me of the art in Roald Dahl books
Most awesome paint brush.... 🔥🔥🔥... Easy to use 👍👍
That's a fun experiment, thanks for sharing Teoh :)
Wow what a challenge lol thank you for trying this!! I’ve been wondering forever
One good use is for shadow color and sepia.
Tree trunks and shadows easy to layer with these.
I have 4 of them, 1 sepia, 1 shadow, and 2 water filled. One waterfilled is a very wide flat for prewash. The other is a very thin for linework with colors as it naturally fade and make beautiful branches, grass, whispers. The sepia and shadow brush is medium size.
I've often thought of putting paint in my brushes but never did it. I think I'll try it now.
Thank you.
The brush pens clogged after a few weeks in case you want to know what happened later 😅
@@teohyc I'll try it with my M Graham paints since they contain honey. It might be the binders that cause the clog or maybe the pen heads need to be cleaned after use.
I really like the chromatic effect this painting had, I think I am going to try that out in the near future.
Interesting and relaxing to watch.
This looked like fun :) might give it a try
Wow that little watercolor palette is so pigmented!
I like this look, it’s very colorful and harmonious. I can see the issue of having water control, and intensity.
I just use them as regular water brushes, and sometimes they tend to suck up the paint from the bristles which settles in the compartment if I dont empty it overnight. If there was some kind of temporary lid you could screw on to replace the brush head and keep it separate from the compartment for long lengths of time you could probably just shake it up, screw the brush back on, and carry on when youre ready to use it again.
I just bought these, thank you for the video.
Hi, interesting video. I fill three watercolor brushes with varying strengths of Neutral Tint and then use them on ink drawings for grayscale sketches. Very nice effect. The brushes do clog after a while, esp. the darker mixes, but little trouble to clean them with warm water. Thanks for all the instructive hours!
very interesting idea!
A very useful experiment
Oh wow, I have the exact waterbrush lmao-
I'm not sure of the long term effects on the waterbrush with watercolours, but I used to do this a lot with inks when I was at Uni. I found them the other day, and although some of them haven't been touched in almost 10 years none of them have clogged or dried out the brush itself. I mostly had them filled with Parker Quink (not diluted) in pretty much every colour that comes in, and a J Herbin fountain pen ink. The waterbrushes themselves were Sakura and Kuretake branded ones. I did fill one with Noodlers bulletproof ink once, and it leaked everywhere so never again xD
What a cool idea! I have seen this done with copic ink, liquid water color, and diluted ink. I have never seen it with pan watercolors though. I am really surprised it works as well as it did. Because you live in Singapore, do you have to worry about the bristles molding?
I always wanted to know that but didn’t wanted to destroy any because they are not cheap in my country. Thanks! Still love your videos, you put so much work into them.
Very good tutorial. I was questioning myself how it will work. Now with your video I have an example. I think it limits the expression of a high quality watercolor paint. Very convenient though for run and gun sketching. For me it is preferable to have just water in the brush and then use a small portable box with 15 half pans and using one color at a time, because mixing even 2 colors gives less interesting result on paper. For instance you can obtain green color by mixing yellow and ultramarin but this green will never compete with pure factory green. This are my thoughts. Your video is excellent. Thank you very much for sharing. 😍
How bout u put factory green paint in waterbrush pen
muhammad patel possible of course, but I prefer to put just water and then use my box with 12 factory made greens or whatever half pans 👍✍️
muhammad patel another interesting point for me with just water is the ability to modify intensity of color! Beside the liberty to mix any color I want. Hope it helps to answer your question ✍️🖋
I use this technique very often with water brush pens and also with these brush pens which we can fill . In our fashion sketch rendering we use water color tubes, cakes and water brush pens, poster colors, acrylic colors, markers ink pens, gel pens , water soluble pencils, and other pencils like wax based or oil based like prisma pencils, Luna water pencils, Faber castle pencils polychromos etc. Glitter pens, metallic color pens, and even some times wr use nail paints for glitter also.
Ohh this looks interesting. I might have to see if I can try this and buy the supplies. I recently got some water color and these brushes look fun
very funky and cool
thank you, i was wanted to try that :)
Is it just me or when I first got these type of brushes I did this and thought that's how you should do it?
Actually they are meant for filling water 😂
We can also fill ink and alcohol to make them alcohol based.
Very educational...Thank you
I have done this as well, but with ecoline liquid watercolour, since they are dye based watercolours they don’t clog up the brushes and you get really intense colours.
Inspiring video!
Liquid watercolours may be better and definatly more than one clean water colour brush.
For to try this out now 😊
Thank you 😍
Your drawing is very surprising and very alive but a little "psychedelic », it is difficult to respect true colors with this technique. The color concentration in the water of each brush is impossible to manage. But the result is interesting ... 🥳
It would be great for brush lettering though
It's perfect Gladys
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Because I am constantly adjusting my water-to-paint ratio as I paint, this method would be far too limiting for me. I'm also not a big fan of waterbrushes in general, so I won't be trying this, but I appreciate the information you provided. Additionally, I like to mix colors to make unique combinations, and this method of painting would make this more difficult. Thanks, Teoh, for another very informative video! Have a great day!
Not necessarily... its not limiting cus u still get to choose how much u pit on the paper and he only demonstratedd 3 colours (primes)maybe u could mix with both types (waterbrush and your own)... overall watervrush pens still give u control and its a lot less mess and cleaning
I'd imagine the color contamination between brushes would eventually leave you with 3 brown brushes.
Been doing that for two years for easy and quick color in my sketchbook . I recommend, yet warn that once the color is in, you should keep the waterbrush to one hue as paint will stay inside long after you're done with it.
ED: Don't paint with them on planes, as the airpressure will make them leak!
Guess u tried it on a plane then haha
@@muhammadpatel5430 I did and I barely managed to not ruin my pants.
Awesome clever way watercolor pen brilliant job :D
I've been looking for this for months!!! Now i can rest im peace knowing that i can put color on them💚
Very cool!
I did a video on this to. It works but clogs on some colors. It may be by company,
How brilliant it is
For storage with paint; wash your "brush section" and while holding your brush "upside down" - meaning vertically with paint section down- screw the brush back in & store upside down so that the paint will not penetrate the brush portion.
Alternatively- buy very small plastic containers with lids, like the ones they give you at restaurants to take-away salad dressing. You can store your used paint in these for re-use later, while you keep your "entire" water brush clean, and have the paint to use later. These small plastic containers can be found at the $ store. The good thing about the water brushes is that the entire thing is made of plastic & rubber, all synthetic materials, so that can be cleaned if the paint gets stuck in the handle, just soak it for a while in water.
Here's a stupid idea: put ink in them, maybe it'll work 👌🏼
Is it stupid? I mean itll work its just why would u do it ...
@@muhammadpatel5430 to have an inkbrush you can refill instead of having to buy a new one all the time???
That's not stupid people like myself do it all the time
@@nevin1180 I know, I didn't mean to offend anyone 😅
@@purplepup2143 it's not offensive don't worry
OMG Imma try this thanks mate
I might use this trick for watercolor brush lettering😅😅😅
Fascinating.
Not a bad idea. I think one would want to experiment a little first and then plan out there choices. Thanks Teoh. 👍 😃
This is a gret video idea!
I remember buying watercolour-filled brushes from a stationery shop ~15 years ago as a kid.
Thank you so much! I was looking for tips and there it is!! I think those can also work as brush line art stuff?
I've tried one small sized cheap AliExpress waterbursh with Sumi ink. Didn't clog, but after adding some tap water to soften the ink when the tip had dried and hardened, got an unpleasant fungus surprise weeks later. It's clean now, as clean as a water brush filled with black ink can be, but haven't tested with water alone to see if it's clogged.
But damn you Teoh, now I want to buy a cheap pack of 10 brushes from Ali and fill them up with my dye inks 🤣
Use them daily or wash them out after use.😁
@@TTomJohn unfortunately daily use for these tools is not my forte. I'm working on my graduation thesis so I spend one week to go back to drawing...
Maddy Torta De Climão if you use distilled water instead of tap you probably won’t have the fungus issue
@@MinaF99 oh yeah, definitely. When I used normal tap water I was just think 9f using all the ink inside and then wash it out, didn't think of leaving the brush unused for a long while :P next time I'll definitely remember using it, I have a little bottle used to thin India inks when they are too thick
Try using cooled boiled water or bottled purified water. Good luck!!!
Would love to see you review the new Sennelier Ink brushes. Same concept but preloaded with Sennelier ink. I have a few, but haven’t figured out the refill options yet. 😊
Smaaaaaart love the idea
I have a few I use for ink washes. The ink does tend to come out much stronger if I don't keep them with the bristles up though.
This was actually my question hood thing you made a video about them😁
I have trouble mixing violet, so I would add that. It would also help with mixing darker colors and shading. 😊
You just earned a new subscriber pal!
Thanks :-)
The sennelier baby palette was a birthday gift to myself. A splurge as it were. For you it’s a messing about palette. Oy.
I do want to try this, but obviously with cheaper paint. Maybe I’ll do a red and a diluted red and a nearly-fully-clear - I’ve been doing a lot of roses recently.
Use a rag or paper towel to blot the tips when you want to remove unwanted color. Kuratake Zig waterbrushes have MUCH better flow control than Aquash. You don't get those big puddles with the Kuratake brushes. My first waterbrush was an Aquash. After continual frustration, I threw it away and proclaimed that I HATED waterbrushes. But, after watching many videos with waterbrushes, I thought I'd try it again. I found a 4 brush Kuratake set for under $15 on Amazon. It was a whole different experience, and I now LOVE my waterbrushes. Kuratake waterbrushes are fantastic and I use them constantly. I'm getting to the point where I reach for my waterbrushes instead of my standard brushes - even in my studio.
I ran into the clogging problem, although to be fair I was using gouache (Winsor & Newton). Some pigments clog worse than others. One or two of the brushes worked ok with watercolor in them, but just as many didn't, and I found I could hardly use them at all. I have had more success with india ink, and I always keep one water brush loaded with black india ink. I've actually just added one with brown and one with blue today, so I can have a sort of on-the-go limited palette india ink kit with me. White ink does clog somewhat badly. I could water it down but it would lose its tinting strength, so I leave it undiluted even though it's difficult to squeeze.
Thanks for sharing 😁
OMG WAIT WHAT I NEED THIS LIKE,.. RIGHT NOW
Will be interesting to see how they survive - if they settle much, clog or grow mould.
I use my Dr.PH Martin's (Olive Green (this you have to shake well bc its concentrated watercolor), Cerise, Lemon Yellow(transparent watercolor) w/half water) and fountain pen inks: Iroshizuku and Noodlers for 5 brush pens. I use all ink for Noodlers Walnut and Iroshizuku Ama-iro.
I've done this for... five years now? Maybe six. You just give them a shake before you use them and can wash the brush nib if you want to change the color. I've changed the Ph Martin's True Blue out for Ama-iro (I finished up TB before the change).
Works well. I bought five of the Pental medium brush pens for this but Derwent #2 works just as well or Jane Davenports waterbrushes (I bought a pack of 2 on sale and have half black Higgins waterproof ink/ half water in one for a gray color and the other pure black).
The only problem is you might want to buy more liquid base watercolors or inks and more brush pens LOL!
DON'T USE ACRYLIC INKS!!! THOSE WILL CLOG! I mean you could but that would be on you.... or just buy a cheap water brush to test it out... or have patience when you clean it up, I guess?
The Spin Doctor I would use distilled water to lessen the chance of mold.
SJP ! Excellent tip! Thanks for sharing :)
I appreciate you so much. You have dared go where I was too afraid of the mess I would make! Not planning on filling my waterbrushes because I use them constantly with mixed media pieces. So I’m happy that you did this experiment! 🙏 Thank you
be careful with water because if it stays, it starts sapping and smells badly after two days. you may use sterilised water instead of tap water.
these brushes or so usefull for some techniques when you dont want to move your hand a lot, or when making repetitive moves. i 've always used them that way, i didn't know that people also use them with plain water 😂
I've always wanted to know this. I like this technique, I would love to try this but I only have two waterbrushes.
fantastic
I tried this with watercolors and India ink a few months back and after a week with regular use the pigment separated from the water in not only the tube part but the feed and in the bristles. It was completely blocked and took me several hours over a few days to clean out and even when I filled it back up with water there would be little particles that sneaked past the cleaning and onto the paper, completely ruined my brush. so if yous wanna try this id only recommend keeping it for a couple days max.
(I feel like this experience has scarred me and I literally never use brish pens anymore, absolutely despise it)
You have to dedicate one pen for a certain colour. The colours can be difficult to clean out.