Wasn't able to play in this class-based trials labs but I did play in the last one and I had an absolute blast. I'm a mid-skill player (1.6kd) and I had a very clean 7 straight wins on Behemoth Titan running my traditional Hand cannon/Shotty combo of Conditional and Iggy. The games weren't too bad even with a Knucklehead Prism Hunter on the enemy team almost every game. Like Cammy said in the video, it is SO much easier to keep track of what abilities your opponents have up and being able to identify them quickly. I greatly appreciated the class diversity each game, I even saw some rarely used classes like arc warlock, arc hunter and strand titan, the first two classes I couldn't recall the last time I played against them. I have a buddy who tried playing the class-based trials weekend and he's a pure hunter main. He once was in orbit so long that the game kicked him for being "AFK". Considering that Hunter is regarded as being the majority and the most sweaty players, I really don't think there's anything bungie could entice them with to play the other classes.
For anyone who hasnt picked up the 10th anniversary armor on your other characters, it does drop at the pinical level. So that could be a free 2010 set to solve your level issue
It was fun. Hadn’t went flawless on Warlock in a long time. Refreshing to pick a loadout and stick to it based on the map. Swapped weapons sometimes but briarbinds did it for me and it didn’t even take long. 8/10 weekend
Stag voidlock with child of the old gods has been one of my favorites for trials. The “meta” option would prob be ntte, hawkmoon, or revision to just outtrade into a secondary win con, but I personally really like adaptive pulses with kill clip since the damage from child can let you two burst.
If i’m playing well a particular weekend transversive solar warlock with thorn or tarrabah has def gotten me my most consistent solo flawlesses and fastest farm but if i’m not 100% locked in the amount of consistent value that child of the old gods gives you for like, 65% effort is crazy.
I went void lock and had a blast. Super underrated class I don’t even use blink. I love the melee you can make some nice plays with it and the child of the old gods puts pretty on people and even cleans them up. Also any weapon is like s tier that has elemental capacitor with options you have 20 stability and the handling and reload.
I actually had a lot of success running heatrises with Randys Throwing Knife this weekend. Especially on Midtown you have a few spots where you can get easy picks on people when they dont expect you.
I've been using stasis Stag with frostpulse, then running Syncopation, you get coverage with medium to long range, then two different options short range, either a Threat detector shotgun, or ur frostpulse Two tips, use empowering rift cos of the faster animation, and when u freeze them immediately melee cos it does some weird lunge which is helpful, and additionally if ur not sure radar wise where they are, you can use threat detector and it'll normally prc when theyre close enough for frost pulse, love ur vids tho mate :)
I dont know if you take suggestions, but I would love some "Don't do this/avoid doing that"-kind of videos and maybe explaining the consequences of such plays. Even the obvious stuff. Being a good teammate can be hard sometimes if you dont know what's expected of you.
Ran titan for most of this week in solo queue, adagio crimils/hawkmoon with shotty and thruster lupi does pretty much everything I could ask for and made the game surprisingly easy after pretty much only playing hunter for last 2-ish years. Class based is a lot of fun and I hope bungie tweak it a little more to suit the wider game and fully implement it sometime, maybe with a limit of 2 dupes per team or subclass limits.
I finally got to the lighthouse as a Duo, I play void astro/Warlock and my clan member played hunter. That was good because that usually means that a decent or average player was playing on the stronger brain dead class. And most of our titans helped or made good solo plays. Playing astrocyte void warlock it's been really fun lately, being the fastest player in the lobby helps a lot with the shotgun/fusion stuff. Especially with a lightweight gun or good mobility.
"I hope I don't meet you in the playlist" Yeah cammy if I'm seeing you on the other team I'm uninstalling. It's one of those matches that will be such a blowout that there won't even be anything to learn from.
Went flawless once on each class. Hunter I used my comfort loadout (stasis, bakris, shatterdive with glacier nade, syncopation and Techeun Force fusion. Warlock I went void and leaned on child of the old gods and the boop melee. Also ran elsies and a shotgun. Titan I ran the typical prismatic loadout with ophid/alpha lupi class item and suppressor nade and shiver strike. Also ran elsies and shotgun. Games were rough Friday/Saturday but by Saturday night I had the map figured out and coasted all Sunday/Monday
Really appreciate the content, especially pertaining to the lower skill players. Wish there were more tips for lower skill players. Sometimes hard to find.
I only play Titan. I have never played warlock or hunter, and I’m not opposed to do that. But from both my experience and just watching your content, I have neither the skill nor the want to play on the level that normal Trials requires. I have over 1,300 crucible kills with sweet business and a 1.3kd for Pete sakes. Which I why I like Trials Labs so much, it forces people out of their comfort zone, and sometimes the meta. Honestly, when I first played destiny in season of the wish, I hated PvP in general because I was trying all of the weapons that people recommended to me, and I just disliked the feel of them. Then I switched to sweet with war rig, because I thought “I have 10k kills in PvE, I know how this weapon works, let’s just try it”. and it felt way more FUN to just use that in PvP then any of the meta weapons that I had used previously. Which to tie back into trials labs, I really enjoy labs because it makes people go through their vault and try new things, and maybe even find a new load out. I’ve made at least 5 friends in the past 2 months purely because I convinced them to use Sweet because I killed then so effectively with it
Didn’t touch any pvp starting this season. Got bored and did comp matches. Got 7 wins in a row during placement while also playing very well. After placement, the game said “you have won too much, time to nock you down a peg .” Now I’m in silver because of lobby balancing. Side note, Thorn feels great and I was just rocking dunes and compass rose with slick and vorpal. Felt very sticky, more so than hawk.
So a lot of good advice but what should i do when i keep getting people that have a solar grenade that kills me and my team before the round even starts? Or like the one guy i faced popping thundercrash 10+ times per round. Its just not fun to play anymore.
*PS5 player* Personally as a hunter main Ive actually been temp maining my titan not just for prismatic but void and arc r a lot of fun too. The rally barricade with the overshield is so nice for more ovi’s and I use it like a rift and the rally makes ur guns feel awsome idk been a lot of fun (I run 7 resil and 7 mobility with 10 recov feels so nice to move with titan). Even arc titan is great, prissy is fun just cuz of the movement like Ill only get a few lances per match and they barely get use but dunmarches prizzy titan’s so fun for flying around. Almost feels like strand hunter but different. Solar warlock feels like its just always going to be a staple pick no matter the meta, void warlock is probly my favorite thus far just somthing about its simplicity and effectiveness thats so cozy. Fun can be had on all three classes for sure 😂🎉
Hunter mains just need to challenge themselves for once and play another class. Just that simple. This is how trials should be and it was great for titan and warlocks.
@@Szn217 No you don't , you get at least one free kill per round and jf you get a box you get two. 99% of fusion players can't use their primary at all yet they still win games constantly. During trasmat meta they would actually jump off the map if they were left in a 1v1.
My first card of the day on titan felt like it took 30 mins and i was like oh this is cool - switched to my hunter and it felt like 30 min to find 2 games…I just went back to my titan to farm adepts smh
seems like Bungo just want this game to be deadder than dead already not enough player > add class base match making, how many warlock players do you expect ?💀 just reintroduce flaw/nonflow pool, make everyone happy
its possibly more so everything and every other reason, like the ranking systems could be alot better and when are we even getting any trials loot set, stuff all a way off yet
@liam3377 those are problems but waiting 5-10 mins between matches is killer i just want to play the game but it feels like they just want me to get off of it.
Getting to play as the class i actually enjoy is the entire point of playing the game. Suffering through a different class just to get a match sounds not only miserable but borderline feeding the addiction behavior Ngl i dont think the game might survive long enough until results of these "labs" show up as changes.
HARD disagree that Hunter is the "optimal class" that has the most "impact on the match". Prismatic Titan has a kit custom-built for PvP. Refundable melee movement tech? A dodge on a FASTER cooldown than Gambler's Dodge? Some of the best grenades (Suppressor/Pulse/Glacier)? Some of the best supers (Twilight/Glacial Quake/Thundercrash (yes, longer cooldown). DIAMOND LANCE/KNOCKOUT that completely ignore the cooldown nerfs/lead to insane kill-streak potential in 3s (AND have movement tech associated with them))? Some of the strongest PvP exotics (primarily class item with Ophidian/Lupi on Thruster, thank god this is getting changed)? The class is absolutely stacked with good things for PvP (let's not talk about the current state of PvE). After the Prismatic nerfs, Hunter is not the meta for PvP outside of console lobbies because of jumps, or low MMR. Smoke Bomb is the #1 thing that carries Hunter, and yes, it's very strong; but that's it for the class. Listen for sound queues, wait 3.5 seconds and the smoke to dissipate, and the problem is gone. Oh, Grapple? Prismatic Titan gets that on about a 25 seconds cooldown at most. Dodge? Prismatic Titan has that (and it goes farther and keeps you first-person AND is faster in duration). Either a shutdown or roaming super? Prismatic Titan has better versions of both (seriously, Twilight Arsenal giving 3 OHKO and then an ADDITIONAL 3 OHKO that anyone on the team can pickup is obscene). Meanwhile, the Prismatic Titan is chaining OHKO melees from 15 meters to demolish your entire team, or using Shiver Strike to move to a new zip-code mid gunfight, or using Glacier Grenades to create cover for a res/heavy at their whim. Invis is strong in controller lobbies and console lobbies. That's it. I don't want to throw shade, but if you're losing less matches as a Hunter...that's because your teammates are Warlock/Titan, and your personal skill has patched up the weakness of the class you're playing. Hunter can compete, but is absolutely strongest on controller/console, which you appear to have moved to. I'm not saying that Hunter is a throw, but I'll put my money on a 3x Prismatic Titan stack over a 3x Hunter/Warlock stack any day of the week. Watching your last few videos, the difference in lobbies is astounding. You're an incredibly skilled player, but half of these plays (like 6:55) would ONLY work on console/controller. You may enjoy a slower/more tactical game, but M&K shits on pretty much every suggestion here.
Is it just me baby raging or snipers are hot garbage? The amount of shit i get hit with i can't dodge mb a skill issue but it's so incredibly annoying. Btw ggs i missed every snipe on you in trials.
Playing hunter during slow times in the mode is border line dangerous cam, I got a network warning the last time this was the special mode
washing the dishes at a red light and just wanted to say real quick: damn you! im not doing my homework!
I just wish they would’ve done this sooner!
Cammy is just a chill guy goin for the loot
Wasn't able to play in this class-based trials labs but I did play in the last one and I had an absolute blast. I'm a mid-skill player (1.6kd) and I had a very clean 7 straight wins on Behemoth Titan running my traditional Hand cannon/Shotty combo of Conditional and Iggy. The games weren't too bad even with a Knucklehead Prism Hunter on the enemy team almost every game. Like Cammy said in the video, it is SO much easier to keep track of what abilities your opponents have up and being able to identify them quickly. I greatly appreciated the class diversity each game, I even saw some rarely used classes like arc warlock, arc hunter and strand titan, the first two classes I couldn't recall the last time I played against them.
I have a buddy who tried playing the class-based trials weekend and he's a pure hunter main. He once was in orbit so long that the game kicked him for being "AFK". Considering that Hunter is regarded as being the majority and the most sweaty players, I really don't think there's anything bungie could entice them with to play the other classes.
such an important video for so many people
thank you for the happy noise cam i appreciate your content
Funny thing, trials was so underpopulated this weekend, I played against two of the people featured in this video 😂
For anyone who hasnt picked up the 10th anniversary armor on your other characters, it does drop at the pinical level. So that could be a free 2010 set to solve your level issue
It was fun. Hadn’t went flawless on Warlock in a long time. Refreshing to pick a loadout and stick to it based on the map. Swapped weapons sometimes but briarbinds did it for me and it didn’t even take long. 8/10 weekend
Stag voidlock with child of the old gods has been one of my favorites for trials. The “meta” option would prob be ntte, hawkmoon, or revision to just outtrade into a secondary win con, but I personally really like adaptive pulses with kill clip since the damage from child can let you two burst.
If i’m playing well a particular weekend transversive solar warlock with thorn or tarrabah has def gotten me my most consistent solo flawlesses and fastest farm but if i’m not 100% locked in the amount of consistent value that child of the old gods gives you for like, 65% effort is crazy.
I went void lock and had a blast. Super underrated class I don’t even use blink. I love the melee you can make some nice plays with it and the child of the old gods puts pretty on people and even cleans them up. Also any weapon is like s tier that has elemental capacitor with options you have 20 stability and the handling and reload.
Hear me out, trials labs: glaives only
I actually had a lot of success running heatrises with Randys Throwing Knife this weekend. Especially on Midtown you have a few spots where you can get easy picks on people when they dont expect you.
I've been using stasis Stag with frostpulse, then running Syncopation, you get coverage with medium to long range, then two different options short range, either a Threat detector shotgun, or ur frostpulse
Two tips, use empowering rift cos of the faster animation, and when u freeze them immediately melee cos it does some weird lunge which is helpful, and additionally if ur not sure radar wise where they are, you can use threat detector and it'll normally prc when theyre close enough for frost pulse, love ur vids tho mate :)
Wholesome Cammy not encouraging texting and driving
I dont know if you take suggestions, but I would love some "Don't do this/avoid doing that"-kind of videos and maybe explaining the consequences of such plays. Even the obvious stuff. Being a good teammate can be hard sometimes if you dont know what's expected of you.
Ran titan for most of this week in solo queue, adagio crimils/hawkmoon with shotty and thruster lupi does pretty much everything I could ask for and made the game surprisingly easy after pretty much only playing hunter for last 2-ish years. Class based is a lot of fun and I hope bungie tweak it a little more to suit the wider game and fully implement it sometime, maybe with a limit of 2 dupes per team or subclass limits.
Yeah im a titan main and i just never had to wait in queue like at all lmao
I finally got to the lighthouse as a Duo, I play void astro/Warlock and my clan member played hunter. That was good because that usually means that a decent or average player was playing on the stronger brain dead class. And most of our titans helped or made good solo plays.
Playing astrocyte void warlock it's been really fun lately, being the fastest player in the lobby helps a lot with the shotgun/fusion stuff. Especially with a lightweight gun or good mobility.
"I hope I don't meet you in the playlist" Yeah cammy if I'm seeing you on the other team I'm uninstalling. It's one of those matches that will be such a blowout that there won't even be anything to learn from.
Highlander Trials is awesome. The low population and and popularity of Hunter really is something ❤
Went flawless once on each class. Hunter I used my comfort loadout (stasis, bakris, shatterdive with glacier nade, syncopation and Techeun Force fusion. Warlock I went void and leaned on child of the old gods and the boop melee. Also ran elsies and a shotgun. Titan I ran the typical prismatic loadout with ophid/alpha lupi class item and suppressor nade and shiver strike. Also ran elsies and shotgun. Games were rough Friday/Saturday but by Saturday night I had the map figured out and coasted all Sunday/Monday
Really appreciate the content, especially pertaining to the lower skill players. Wish there were more tips for lower skill players. Sometimes hard to find.
I only play Titan. I have never played warlock or hunter, and I’m not opposed to do that. But from both my experience and just watching your content, I have neither the skill nor the want to play on the level that normal Trials requires. I have over 1,300 crucible kills with sweet business and a 1.3kd for Pete sakes. Which I why I like Trials Labs so much, it forces people out of their comfort zone, and sometimes the meta.
Honestly, when I first played destiny in season of the wish, I hated PvP in general because I was trying all of the weapons that people recommended to me, and I just disliked the feel of them. Then I switched to sweet with war rig, because I thought “I have 10k kills in PvE, I know how this weapon works, let’s just try it”. and it felt way more FUN to just use that in PvP then any of the meta weapons that I had used previously. Which to tie back into trials labs, I really enjoy labs because it makes people go through their vault and try new things, and maybe even find a new load out. I’ve made at least 5 friends in the past 2 months purely because I convinced them to use Sweet because I killed then so effectively with it
Trying (and failing) to sleep gang
Didn’t touch any pvp starting this season. Got bored and did comp matches. Got 7 wins in a row during placement while also playing very well. After placement, the game said “you have won too much, time to nock you down a peg .” Now I’m in silver because of lobby balancing. Side note, Thorn feels great and I was just rocking dunes and compass rose with slick and vorpal. Felt very sticky, more so than hawk.
Ooo, Life Advice Cammy.
So a lot of good advice but what should i do when i keep getting people that have a solar grenade that kills me and my team before the round even starts? Or like the one guy i faced popping thundercrash 10+ times per round. Its just not fun to play anymore.
Never believed in persistent after the first week it came out. Ferocity ftw.
I did duo with a warlock and titan. Matchmaking was pretty fast and usually got decent thirds.
Cammy, I’m trying to be better at m&k in D2. Any suggestions on keybinds?
6am gang!! anyone else think pvp could use more "forced" modes like this? it could be cool if there were element specific modifiers for pvp
Queue times were so bad this weekend, at least from my experience (played on warlock the whole weekend)
i try run a shotgun and sidearm loadout for hunter in trials soon? got it!
Chilling on the couch gang
No more homework to procrastinate for me cam, just got my masters on sunday 🥳
I really wish we had locked loadouts in pvp. Would make the game so much better.
How do you play invis tho asking for a friend
*PS5 player* Personally as a hunter main Ive actually been temp maining my titan not just for prismatic but void and arc r a lot of fun too. The rally barricade with the overshield is so nice for more ovi’s and I use it like a rift and the rally makes ur guns feel awsome idk been a lot of fun (I run 7 resil and 7 mobility with 10 recov feels so nice to move with titan). Even arc titan is great, prissy is fun just cuz of the movement like Ill only get a few lances per match and they barely get use but dunmarches prizzy titan’s so fun for flying around. Almost feels like strand hunter but different. Solar warlock feels like its just always going to be a staple pick no matter the meta, void warlock is probly my favorite thus far just somthing about its simplicity and effectiveness thats so cozy. Fun can be had on all three classes for sure 😂🎉
Make a vid abt that mask build for titan, im trynna see sumn
it was a struggle to go flawless last week
staying up too late, going to bed, gang
fav warlock build rn is stasis dmt disruption break gl
I see you, helping noobs get into trials so you can farm us. Looking forward to the next videos you mentioned
Hunter mains just need to challenge themselves for once and play another class. Just that simple. This is how trials should be and it was great for titan and warlocks.
sorting through my dawning rolls, gang
Can't wait for the trials tips for lower skilled players vid.
Use a fusion.
There done you win.
@@fotis3v480you need to be able to hit your shots some what.
@@Szn217 No you don't , you get at least one free kill per round and jf you get a box you get two.
99% of fusion players can't use their primary at all yet they still win games constantly.
During trasmat meta they would actually jump off the map if they were left in a 1v1.
@@fotis3v480 this was true for every trashcan player who doesn't belong in trials
Someone’s mad they got shut down from shotgun apeing
I three stacked honestly getting lucky facing the same people
Hunters have a longer matchmake time!? That explains why I was waiting 55 to 15 minutes Monday night 12/16/2024!
changing diapers gang!
doing homework gang
Taking a dab gang
My first card of the day on titan felt like it took 30 mins and i was like oh this is cool - switched to my hunter and it felt like 30 min to find 2 games…I just went back to my titan to farm adepts smh
Cooking Dinner Gang
Alchemist/Elsie/voidlock is free. My main in trials rn
tbh. i find warlock easiest, blink with the exotic blink helm, prismatic with stasis melee and turret and fire orb thingy,
Grinding RuneScape gang 💪
❤
I don't understand why people play on hunter only, in my opinion it's the worst subclass as it has the least creative exotics
Its the jump and dodge
Times like these I wish I didn’t play hunter cause the loading times were crazy😭😭😭
Play a class that isn't crutch af lmao
@@literallynobody1515 Saying this while playing any class in destiny 2...
seems like Bungo just want this game to be deadder than dead
already not enough player > add class base match making, how many warlock players do you expect ?💀
just reintroduce flaw/nonflow pool, make everyone happy
6:17 WHY CAMMY WHY 😭
The thing killing pvp the most is queue times
its possibly more so everything and every other reason, like the ranking systems could be alot better and when are we even getting any trials loot set, stuff all a way off yet
@liam3377 those are problems but waiting 5-10 mins between matches is killer i just want to play the game but it feels like they just want me to get off of it.
nah, it's the meta and playerbase
This math aint mathin
Getting to play as the class i actually enjoy is the entire point of playing the game.
Suffering through a different class just to get a match sounds not only miserable but borderline feeding the addiction behavior
Ngl i dont think the game might survive long enough until results of these "labs" show up as changes.
HARD disagree that Hunter is the "optimal class" that has the most "impact on the match". Prismatic Titan has a kit custom-built for PvP. Refundable melee movement tech? A dodge on a FASTER cooldown than Gambler's Dodge? Some of the best grenades (Suppressor/Pulse/Glacier)? Some of the best supers (Twilight/Glacial Quake/Thundercrash (yes, longer cooldown). DIAMOND LANCE/KNOCKOUT that completely ignore the cooldown nerfs/lead to insane kill-streak potential in 3s (AND have movement tech associated with them))? Some of the strongest PvP exotics (primarily class item with Ophidian/Lupi on Thruster, thank god this is getting changed)? The class is absolutely stacked with good things for PvP (let's not talk about the current state of PvE).
After the Prismatic nerfs, Hunter is not the meta for PvP outside of console lobbies because of jumps, or low MMR. Smoke Bomb is the #1 thing that carries Hunter, and yes, it's very strong; but that's it for the class. Listen for sound queues, wait 3.5 seconds and the smoke to dissipate, and the problem is gone. Oh, Grapple? Prismatic Titan gets that on about a 25 seconds cooldown at most. Dodge? Prismatic Titan has that (and it goes farther and keeps you first-person AND is faster in duration). Either a shutdown or roaming super? Prismatic Titan has better versions of both (seriously, Twilight Arsenal giving 3 OHKO and then an ADDITIONAL 3 OHKO that anyone on the team can pickup is obscene). Meanwhile, the Prismatic Titan is chaining OHKO melees from 15 meters to demolish your entire team, or using Shiver Strike to move to a new zip-code mid gunfight, or using Glacier Grenades to create cover for a res/heavy at their whim.
Invis is strong in controller lobbies and console lobbies. That's it.
I don't want to throw shade, but if you're losing less matches as a Hunter...that's because your teammates are Warlock/Titan, and your personal skill has patched up the weakness of the class you're playing. Hunter can compete, but is absolutely strongest on controller/console, which you appear to have moved to. I'm not saying that Hunter is a throw, but I'll put my money on a 3x Prismatic Titan stack over a 3x Hunter/Warlock stack any day of the week. Watching your last few videos, the difference in lobbies is astounding. You're an incredibly skilled player, but half of these plays (like 6:55) would ONLY work on console/controller. You may enjoy a slower/more tactical game, but M&K shits on pretty much every suggestion here.
Is it just me baby raging or snipers are hot garbage? The amount of shit i get hit with i can't dodge mb a skill issue but it's so incredibly annoying. Btw ggs i missed every snipe on you in trials.
Writing this comment at a green light. Cause I'm crazy.
On Letting Go is amazing I love Circa
@alonzor557 You are the first person in 14 years to notice and recognize it. Seriously.
HUNTERS SUCK LOL
real