@ - Right but people doing master witness are there for the completion to buy adept weapons. People doing it for the challenge or title are not going to be in this chat and already have it done.
Really glad when I was first grinding for the title I landed an Adept with Dynamic Sway or Slice in the left and then Kill Clip or Target Lock in the right, with a Range MW on top of that. Having Chaos Reshaped would be more fun and wacky but I'm more than happy to take either the neutral boost from Target Lock or the straightforward increase of Kill Clip.
I use Nullify in PVP with Speaker's Sight. Heal Clip keeps Benevolence up whenever I reload so I always have my healing turret and other abilities up. Radiant thanks to melee. Solace for extended Radiant and Restoration timer. Searing for melee ability energy when killiny scorched targets (which you do when hitting them with your melee) and the fire sprite it drops reduces grenades. Great for support role in 6s and even allows me to put pressure on enemy team in 3s.
Ive used imminence, multimach, and the other 900 smgs, but I always seem to come back to my adept submission smg. It has a killing wind and encore roll, it has amazing range and stability when i get chain kills with it. I lucked out with it when the pantheon was around, it was the one and only adept submission drop i got. I have over 3k kills with it and I just love it
I can't aim for beans and my aggro level in pvp is capybara in snoozing in a lake, but I swear Chaos Reshaped proc'd on that smg is super nice on more tight maps and blazing through people can be a lot of fun. Slice is also massive glue that holds a lot of it together. Also the origin is one of the best, highly highly recommend it with Non-Denouement bow Hipfire+Archer's Gambit with Elemental Cap+ KC/PI Something New with some Bakris action if you're feeling spicy, people still forget how it might not be as insta-death as old bow swapping ,but you're still chunking in big numbers and Non-Denouement with all the things proc'd and lowest stat draw time allows you to fire off quick back to back with ease. Lastly per your SE advice, save a Critical Anomaly with Chill Clip+Chaos Reshaped, diet Izanagi's when you have x2 Reshaped and you can delete bulky GM rated champs with not much issues. IMHO one of the more overlooked Chill Clip special weapons in pve but I again get people hate the new raid, so merp.
I wish Slice was active for a longer duration based on the cooldown of your class ability. As of right now it's kinda terrible if you're on Warlock with Rifts
Me: "WOWZA ENHANCEMENT CORE GALORE" Also My inventory: 6 stacks of 999 enhancement cores because Bungie is funny and gives people infinite enhancement cores limited time event from time to time.
I get u bro. I start to rage after three dungeon attempts in LFG. 300 hours in, on average I still don’t have the time nor the patience to endure a raid, especially since I don’t have any friends who play the game.
You should try raiding, some of the best content in the game. I can't vouch for the people you find on LFG, but content creators usually have discord servers that have a bunch of people willing to teach raiding.
0:54 You don't grab a post Templar checkpoint and just grab all four secret chests? Do you not feel that's worth the effort? Though I feel that's not any more effort than doing the opening.
came here to ask this question as well. post-templar for all 4 chests is great *especially* if you have another account to help hold open instances. you backtrack to front door and hold that zone for the first two chests. then restart from post-templar and go forward, do the gorgon unlocks, then hold that instance for one chest. then move forward past gorgons to open the door to gatekeeper and hold that instance for the final chest. i use a solo invis hunter to setup / bypass gorgons, and a F2P alt account to hold the instances open. it's easy to have a fireteam cycling through joining on your F2P while you use your main to do the movement/gorgons, then join your F2P to your main and set them as lead. i get all 3x4 chests in about 20 minutes with post-templar + alt acct.
@@deangaudet That's what I did when I was helping my brother collect spoils, except there were two of us instead using an alt account. Same works for other chest farming, makes it much easier than starting over each time (especially for the LW bridge chest, you can backtrack to previous check point and not have to cross the gap each time).
I'm surprised you have to lfg, I kinda assumed you have an army of dedicated fireteam members that you can instantly summon whenever you want to farm a pvp weapon
Looks very nice and all but if you're not using an adept mod of some sort, why not just craft it, Cammy? I'm sure there's a reason but it's not clear to me. is it really just about saving 1 or 2 vault slots? In exchange for 13 hours of lifetime? 😕
Why though? Enhanced weapons with the new mods are basically just as good as adepts. There's literally no reason to farm adepts weapons that are craftable.
What is left for hardcore D2 endgame players other than Adept god rolls? My OCD will not allow me to use the normal version of a weapon if an Adept exists.
@rentedmule169 Thats my point. There really is only personal perfectionist reasons now Literally the only difference is that adept rolls have +2 per stat from the masterwork. I miss having a reason to grind.
@@zachcunningham9054 Which realistically just means a better chance of getting the perk combo you're looking for. Sure, if you're really lucky, you'll get a combo roll, but you can't count on that. edit: Which much like adept mods and the stat boost, isn't a meaningful benefit. Technically, it's better, but realistically? It doesn't matter.
@@zachcunningham9054 Sure 6 perks increases the odds. But is it really worth all the grinding when you can get a crafted roll with everything that you want thats basically just as good?? Idk to me the endgame loot in destiny is so unappealing now. But hey if you can have fun grinding for it, more power to you. I just don't see the point personally anymore.
Eternally grateful for my unemployment over the summer to get me every gun in Salvation’s Edge except for the sniper (which I got an adept for) and the sword (which I don’t think I’ve tried once?$
@@Mega12358 not really? Maybe for PvE but the raiding population is so small compared to the overall playerbase that it wouldn't surface all that much. Target Lock being unnerfed on SMG's might change that though, then again everyones probably still got their Immortal's lying around in their vaults.
@@NuclearRizzicist yeah ofc not everybody is gonna have it because of it being in a raid, yet I still see it commonly in higher skill lobbies since higher skill players usually have the ability to do raids. It's still popular
@Mega12358 if its only popular for higher skill players, then its not popular, its niche. Popular is whats currently 340 pulses and 140 HC's with shotguns. If Imminence was actually popular and desirable, more people would put in the effort to get it. Theres been proof of this repeatedly for the last decade.
when he said "I rip the band-aid off and went to lfg" he sounded like he lost a family member
Have you been in lfg lately? I didn't think it could get any worse than when this raid first dropped...
You edged for 13 hrs and all you can show for us is an smg
Cam, thats dedication 🗿😂
Also for people having issues or don’t want to deal with the witness, two tail fox button break is still a thing.
It fails the master challenge tho. Witness master challenge on LFG is ROUGH.
@ - Right but people doing master witness are there for the completion to buy adept weapons. People doing it for the challenge or title are not going to be in this chat and already have it done.
You can destroy the glyphs with ex Diris, Mtn top, apex predator, void rocket from echoes, anything with a low enough velocity.
@ Two tailed cheese breaks all the buttons before the encounter, i.e, free DPS phase without doing the encounter.
@@ajsultani1636 All weapons listed can do that to. As long as the velocity is low. You can use almost any projectile based weapon.
You sound fried, thanks for putting all of this together, lots of great info and gameplay!
Really glad when I was first grinding for the title I landed an Adept with Dynamic Sway or Slice in the left and then Kill Clip or Target Lock in the right, with a Range MW on top of that.
Having Chaos Reshaped would be more fun and wacky but I'm more than happy to take either the neutral boost from Target Lock or the straightforward increase of Kill Clip.
Cammy: "I spent 13 hours in this raid for this specific role"
Me: "I got this role as a drop when completing my 4th master challenge"
thank you for the detailed edge strategies :D
The first two minutes of clips are crazy, good vid cammy, like always !
You're being a better pve guider than other pve content creators out there!
I love that you have uploaded, but I am also so happy I don't 'play' this game anymore
Was wondering when I’d see this gameplay haha. Good to see you boys on console
I use Nullify in PVP with Speaker's Sight. Heal Clip keeps Benevolence up whenever I reload so I always have my healing turret and other abilities up. Radiant thanks to melee. Solace for extended Radiant and Restoration timer. Searing for melee ability energy when killiny scorched targets (which you do when hitting them with your melee) and the fire sprite it drops reduces grenades. Great for support role in 6s and even allows me to put pressure on enemy team in 3s.
No Gemini jesters to keep slice/chaos reshaped working constantly?
Edit: nvm you just said that lol
The extra perks from having patterns completed, the more patterns the more perks in each column.
Ive used imminence, multimach, and the other 900 smgs, but I always seem to come back to my adept submission smg. It has a killing wind and encore roll, it has amazing range and stability when i get chain kills with it. I lucked out with it when the pantheon was around, it was the one and only adept submission drop i got. I have over 3k kills with it and I just love it
Why go for adept when using the +1 zoom is so good on smg’s? Since you’re gonna use the modslot for the +1 zoom anyway
Spend 13 hrs edging to my masters salvation
I can't aim for beans and my aggro level in pvp is capybara in snoozing in a lake, but I swear Chaos Reshaped proc'd on that smg is super nice on more tight maps and blazing through people can be a lot of fun. Slice is also massive glue that holds a lot of it together.
Also the origin is one of the best, highly highly recommend it with Non-Denouement bow Hipfire+Archer's Gambit with Elemental Cap+ KC/PI Something New with some Bakris action if you're feeling spicy, people still forget how it might not be as insta-death as old bow swapping ,but you're still chunking in big numbers and Non-Denouement with all the things proc'd and lowest stat draw time allows you to fire off quick back to back with ease.
Lastly per your SE advice, save a Critical Anomaly with Chill Clip+Chaos Reshaped, diet Izanagi's when you have x2 Reshaped and you can delete bulky GM rated champs with not much issues. IMHO one of the more overlooked Chill Clip special weapons in pve but I again get people hate the new raid, so merp.
I wish Slice was active for a longer duration based on the cooldown of your class ability. As of right now it's kinda terrible if you're on Warlock with Rifts
Let me put you on something: icefall mantle plus a slice gun. Enemies do less damage, and you have damage resist.
THAT STREAK WAS NASTY!
Now i need to see cammy make heal clip frenzy iggy work. Maybe with wormhusk thrown in.
Damn, Cammy over here clearing the Master challenges while I'm just wishing I could get a single clear, lol
Holy shit this is it. Been waiting to get this SMG for months. I start back up gaming next week!
Based build, gonna give it a go in comp w multi mach and rose. Trying to get the homie's to sit down for salvation's is rough.
Me: "WOWZA ENHANCEMENT CORE GALORE"
Also My inventory: 6 stacks of 999 enhancement cores because Bungie is funny and gives people infinite enhancement cores limited time event from time to time.
the 360 woulda been unreal if that hit @14:47
These are the guns I want to get, but I'm too much of a wuss to do leg's, hell ive never raided with 600 hours in the game
I personally recommend starting with vault of glass, since it was my first raid and had a lotta fun with it.
you should try ^
@@knightsniper2576 it's a fun and easy to understand raid, im sure you'd love it too:)
I get u bro. I start to rage after three dungeon attempts in LFG. 300 hours in, on average I still don’t have the time nor the patience to endure a raid, especially since I don’t have any friends who play the game.
You should try raiding, some of the best content in the game. I can't vouch for the people you find on LFG, but content creators usually have discord servers that have a bunch of people willing to teach raiding.
Bro, time to go back in after the target lock revert!
Correction on the spoils thing, you can get 50 per characters each week without it being the featured raid.
VOW 5
VOG 20
CE 5
KF 5
RON 5
SE 10
Is that Chika in the thumbnail?
I want adept weapons from this raid so bad but like I literally never learned this raid
0:54 You don't grab a post Templar checkpoint and just grab all four secret chests? Do you not feel that's worth the effort? Though I feel that's not any more effort than doing the opening.
came here to ask this question as well. post-templar for all 4 chests is great *especially* if you have another account to help hold open instances. you backtrack to front door and hold that zone for the first two chests. then restart from post-templar and go forward, do the gorgon unlocks, then hold that instance for one chest. then move forward past gorgons to open the door to gatekeeper and hold that instance for the final chest. i use a solo invis hunter to setup / bypass gorgons, and a F2P alt account to hold the instances open. it's easy to have a fireteam cycling through joining on your F2P while you use your main to do the movement/gorgons, then join your F2P to your main and set them as lead. i get all 3x4 chests in about 20 minutes with post-templar + alt acct.
@@deangaudet That's what I did when I was helping my brother collect spoils, except there were two of us instead using an alt account.
Same works for other chest farming, makes it much easier than starting over each time (especially for the LW bridge chest, you can backtrack to previous check point and not have to cross the gap each time).
Hey is fragile focus better for titan or slice all the way?
what sense are you running on this video?
I love you cammy cakes
I am a simple man. I see a Kaguya-sama referenced somewhere, I click.
Should play on strand with whirling maelstroms.
Multiperks are based on completed patterns so unfortunately it's "best" to finish all your patterns and then do master
Cammy, do you prefer crafted or adept weapons?
He's said he likes crafting for rng reasons
I'm surprised you have to lfg, I kinda assumed you have an army of dedicated fireteam members that you can instantly summon whenever you want to farm a pvp weapon
I did witness checkpoints for like 2 months while only having 4 full clears and now I sit with around 39 clears
Cant wait till I'm not com banned anymore to try this raid
Nice!
i cleared the 4th encounter once and never went there again.
everyone who's cleared that should get automatic godslayer :D
I really wish people actually wanted to teach that raid.. Still no luck
Yeah I struggle 4 hours and didn't get past the second encounter yesterday 😩
Never have had a successful run of this raid yet sadly. not enough friends to play it and lfg has been a nightmare to say the least...
I still need to test my roll out but I’m not a big smg user anymore
0:50 So I guess nobody’s gonna point out that this dude has almost 9 stacks of enhancement cores 😂
My inventory will be unusable soon
I love raids. I hate this one. 😂
@SavageSayo79 me too. I would love to have all the vaulted stuff, including raids, back.
C'est quoi se 360 ??? Tu as une sensi tellement basse!!!!!!!
I tried for 2 seasons to get a single master witness kill.
all I want is SE titan chest piece
Nah fk that
Looks very nice and all but if you're not using an adept mod of some sort, why not just craft it, Cammy? I'm sure there's a reason but it's not clear to me. is it really just about saving 1 or 2 vault slots? In exchange for 13 hours of lifetime? 😕
Was at 0/5 for the SMG, Glaive, and Sword.
Got all 3 perfect rolls in one run, thus saving up to 9 week timegate
i spent 13 hours in Master Salvation's Edge for a handling masterwork*
lowkeyt cool seeing totsugeki in the LFGs
I dont think ive heard whining about disjunction since they last moved the spawns, guess they fixed it
for mnk the recoil pattern is bad..93 or 100 is bad.. or 100 is bad..
you spent 13h to get two pieces of trash😂
Im not looking forward to an smg meta again i like my pulse
Ngl can you put time stamps next time for like the information for like spoils farm and methods
Why though? Enhanced weapons with the new mods are basically just as good as adepts. There's literally no reason to farm adepts weapons that are craftable.
What is left for hardcore D2 endgame players other than Adept god rolls? My OCD will not allow me to use the normal version of a weapon if an Adept exists.
@rentedmule169 Thats my point. There really is only personal perfectionist reasons now Literally the only difference is that adept rolls have +2 per stat from the masterwork. I miss having a reason to grind.
You can get up to 6 perks on them
@@zachcunningham9054 Which realistically just means a better chance of getting the perk combo you're looking for.
Sure, if you're really lucky, you'll get a combo roll, but you can't count on that.
edit: Which much like adept mods and the stat boost, isn't a meaningful benefit. Technically, it's better, but realistically? It doesn't matter.
@@zachcunningham9054 Sure 6 perks increases the odds. But is it really worth all the grinding when you can get a crafted roll with everything that you want thats basically just as good?? Idk to me the endgame loot in destiny is so unappealing now. But hey if you can have fun grinding for it, more power to you. I just don't see the point personally anymore.
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Eternally grateful for my unemployment over the summer to get me every gun in Salvation’s Edge except for the sniper (which I got an adept for) and the sword (which I don’t think I’ve tried once?$
MASSIVE TIP!! If you just un install this pile of garbage, you actually win the whole game! It’s fantastic
Dont make it populer please!
imminence has already been a popular smg for a while
@@Mega12358 not really? Maybe for PvE but the raiding population is so small compared to the overall playerbase that it wouldn't surface all that much. Target Lock being unnerfed on SMG's might change that though, then again everyones probably still got their Immortal's lying around in their vaults.
@@NuclearRizzicist yeah ofc not everybody is gonna have it because of it being in a raid, yet I still see it commonly in higher skill lobbies since higher skill players usually have the ability to do raids. It's still popular
@Mega12358 if its only popular for higher skill players, then its not popular, its niche. Popular is whats currently 340 pulses and 140 HC's with shotguns. If Imminence was actually popular and desirable, more people would put in the effort to get it. Theres been proof of this repeatedly for the last decade.
hehehehehe