For Honor - Dominion Strategy - Rotations & Point Priority
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- Strategical videos are always hard to make.
Tons of factors come into play, and all I can do, is give you a rough idea of what is important and in which order.
I hope this video makes sense, and if anything needs more explaining or if you disagree with something, please let me know.
Nothing is set in stone here, but there is also a reason why certain things developed a certain way.
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"Minimal blood spilled" yeah except those minions huh
#minionlivesmatter
If they didn't want to be expendable they should have been born into the nobility
#MinionMeTOO
This is why I really wish, they made Carousel of Death a permanent game mode. It's just instant teamfight with (mostly) low respawn time, no rotations. It's the perfect death match mode.
The last sentence of your comment will explain why it won't gain traction. The community is too busy flinging crap at each other about what death matches are supposed to be like (4v4 vs 4-1v1's) to play them
@@Blurgamer17 This keeps popping up but the only places where this seems to be an actual issue are Brawls and Death Match. Most people will teamfight in other 4v4s whether it is Dominion, Breach or Carousel.
Map design in Death Match and Brawl is 100% to blame. More often than not it spawns players in pairs of 1v1s rather than in a pit where everyone has a chance to go at each other. This prompts players to intuitively 1v1 and creates that expectation that this is how the mode will be played. As soon as you create a mode where everyone's in a pit, close to each other, and objectives can only be accomplished by working as a team, the whole honor bullshit seems to vanish.
I used to follow the code for brawls , too. But i lost all understanding for it. If people want to play duels... GO PLAY DUELS
I see brawls as an opportunity to warm up for big teamfights in dominion.
I usually look at rotations from a slightly different perspective: Where can I be the most productive on the map? Which I determinate from the folloeing points, in the following order: What's the situatiuon on the map (where my teammates and opponents are, how which objectives do we have atm, etc), what my hero's capabilitys/ roles are, and how competent my teammates are.
All I do is track down the top fragger on the enemy team and keep them busy so they can have less impact, especially when I’m playing a slower character whose rotations are bad anyways
For honor average match summarization : 1:04
Griffy main be like
I wish I had more friends to play for honor with, this tips would been very helpful
You on xbox?
@@knytlite PS4 is prety much the same
@@albertogarciaprieto4637 aw man well I was gonna sign up to be your friend if you had xbox. I'm on xbox
@@knytlite thanks mate :)
Yo I’m on PlayStation if you wanna play. I’m rep 50 and still learning the game.
"we are a fighting game first and foremost" I'm glad you acknowledge this.
I remember around the time CCU dropped and people complaining about unreaccability, every time I commented about how every other fighting game relies on reads I was getting shit on, for some odd reason people cannot comprehend that a game that revolves around fighting, could be a fighting game.
Of course FH has many elements from other genres, that's what makes it special.
I like the ccu since I've moved platform but tbh it's kinda apples and oranges to compare for honor to another fighting game like tekken and mortal kombat
And yet the most defensive heros are still top tier and attacking is punished
@@friendlyreaper9012 as is the unfortunate case in a good chunk of fighting games. the fewer the defensive options, the stronger they must be. but too many defensive options and you become too niche of a fighting game. truly the greatest struggle of our time.
@@CallMeMark231 Direct comparison is indeed pears and peaches, but mechanically-wise, the combat itself can be put side-to-side
For honor have some wacky inputs compared to nice and crisp inputs in other fighting games, this offten leads to frustration as well as no clear indication of what hits are guranteed and whats not.
Thanks for the video Freeze. The Dominion series was starting to peak my interest this year, but had no idea how or why people did rotations the way they were. Having it clarified helps me so much more in understanding tournament plays and strategies.
@@Kharis- Thanks mate
Here’s how to win casual dominion (the type of games 99% of the player base are having):
Control B. He who controls B controls the universe. Most of the match will be spent with A and C being contested and generating no points for anyone. During this time, the minion lane is the only point actually accruing points.
Even if you end a match on 2 kills and 11 deaths, you’re still likely to win the match overall.
This is based on four years of consistent testing, a year of which has been documented on my twitch stream (which I won’t plug here since I’m trying to give a genuine tip and not just promote myself).
This is why I so often find myself playing WL, Kensei, or Cent. The vast majority of players have no sense of strategy at all and will stack 4 assassins while only going for kills and wonder why we lost. I don't want to have to constantly run top tier characters (my favorite char is actually HL), but I feel I have to constantly babysit my team with a solid pick if I want to have a good time with the game and not just eat shit constantly.
When he said "feed revenge, complain" I really felt that
I always use your content to learn more and more about this game. The fact that you can convey this information about rotations so clearly is just astounding! Respect brother, keep up the amazing work!
That's why i tend to select characters with good minion clear, everybody forgets about midpoint and its the key to victory.
I've recently found that out using musha. Now I can't stand heroes with slow minion clear
I prefer to run straight at 3 people and try and anti gank then rage
Thank you for explaining this, man. Your videos typically have at least a small impact on my MM so let’s hope we are looking at more competent teammates soon!
I think For Honor should have a tutorial showing, clearly, what are the rewards for winning. And have good rewards, scavenger crates and salvage to use in transmog come to mind. So that people want to win besides just fighting
I don’t play MOBAs but I love how they are so pervasive I understood the references.
Videos like this are why I subbed. :)
I can confirm, you don’t really have to kill anyone to win the game. I decided to do a total meme one game because everyone was so chill (a rare occurrence).
I stood on a point and did absolutely nothing. I didn’t die once. I didn’t get a single takedown. I either boosted or stalled the point.
I got top of the leaderboard somehow with my team winning a 3v4. I label this as my greatest accomplishment.
FYI Freeze does not believe in boosting. In fact if I remember correctly he says you are a detriment to your team. He has a whole video about it.
@@burlygaming210 oh believe me, I know 😂👍 but it was a one time thing and the fact that it somehow worked was just buttery.
@@zadekirian2 Yeah. It works alot more than you think.
at this point this and other videos from freeze should be official tutorial
game changing video
Thank God we have freeze here to advance the fh community out of the stone ages
Actually, For Honor is first and foremost a fashion show.
For honor? More like for fashion
You mean I can’t just boost the same point all game and ledge people as Warlord? (Specifically High Fort) ahh man
This seriously wins games my dude. Don't change a thing.
For honor dominion is like chess with interactive pieces. And I love it
thanks for the vid❤️... but maybe u can help me out in something. im maining shaolin and i whould love to know how to perfectly place his Qi trap in Dominion ( in theire spawn) cuz i think that whould be such a huge help to my team 🙂im sorry if u already did a vid about it
Dominion series needs a ledging tournament were its all warlords and is on highfort now that would be amazing or all 4 shugokis hug only .
Good Vid
Now the only thing I hope is that people turn their brains on when they hop in a match. Cant have a Vanguard boosting zones and a Heavy clearing minion. The other thing I wish for is different materials on different body parts. Keep it up bossman 👍🏻👍🏻
Did they buff juggernaut to give a shield?
While to some degree I always understood the actual strategy mechanics of Dominion, I was mostly still one of those players that didn't really think about it until I saw an actual chance to change the course of the battle, otherwise I was pretty quiet to my teammates.
If I wasn't telling my teammates what to do, I was doing a vicious respawn cycle of going from spawn to whatever zone I felt like at the moment. Sometimes, I got lucky and was able to hold a zone for multiple little fights and even pulling off an anti-gank every once in a while (though very rarely).
I guess it mostly has to do with the mindset you have when going into the match, if you hype yourself up and get single minded, you will probably lose (aside from lucky wins). If you stay calm, and actually keep an eye on the battlefield while you are waiting to respawn, etc. you might figure out an actual plan of attack for the next time you respawn.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is: "Don't get cocky, don't focus on a single detail (in this case, a single player or players on the other team), instead, focus on the bigger picture. Look at dominion as if it is an actual battle that requires strategy and wit to prevail."
Imagine playing for objectives in dominion instead of uninstalling and hopping onto minecraft or literally any game to feel what playing for fun feels like
'comapred' Comrade? Freeze Russian Confirmed.
comapred
Hopefully next year when I turn 18 I can get my game play in a freeze vid 🙃
get fucked nerd I got on freeze before you did hehehehe
you said orders and I got vanguard PTSD
im sorry freeze but what is that gameplay at the first few minutes of the match?!??
Do this with breach pls
i'll sit on home point and emote spam instead, thanks
😭😭😭😭😭
Ye this guide was poo that’s the optimal way of playing 🙏
I'm On a 6 game losing streak in dom, doing everything I can. Just went 14-3 with HL, went 10-2 with Warlord... Basically if you play solo queue be prepared to lose, no matter how good you play objectively. Game can be brutal sometimes, but I play for fun and like to win, but in solo you just have to have realistic expectations. But damn, 6 games is the worst stream I've had I think. Time to go try to turn it around and start a winning streak! Wish me luck lol
Wait, I'm not supposed to just capture and wait on point thru all the match?
Nah fridge is wrong that’s exactly what your supposed to do completely awful “guide”😔😔
@@monkeman9529 Very true, make sure to 'dislike' the video!
@@spaceyonqui1235 ye thanks man!!! Gotta report too for wasting my time!!
make sure you take your favorite instrument emote of the million that there are so it's even more thrilling
I m playing this game since season 1 without team mates. The best strategy is to move fast on every point with all team.
I m playing always alone but a lot of times a random team is evil thing.
For example i ve ganked from 2 or 3 people amd team mates try to kill enemy with lower energy and he leave me with 2 enemy that kill me and after the people who help me will kill by the othrer in gank
Been saying FH has MOBA elements for some time now and people just don't see it. Running from fights you'd definitely lose, not intentionally taking on ganks, not suicide bombing into your home point when the enemy team is stacked on it and boosting it and your team is trickling in, all of these things will get you bm'd in matches, even though they are more strategically sound approaches. I've encountered few players who can appreciate the strategy involved in FH's gameplay.
> not suicide bombing into your home point when the enemy team is stacked on it
Last Laugh: "am I a joke to you?"
@@k338914 can't get last laugh if you keep getting your lasst kicked
This is competitive fh? I thought the ganks would be a lot more optimal
0:49 wtf? Was it in domi series???? Feeding revenge, no ganks, going OOS
Q U A L I F I E R S
@@k338914 yeah but comon they even have a team name like, try to at least inform yourself about the basics things to do and to know if you want to try competitive scene
🤣 Perfect games or nothing for you eh?
@@angelitoleon3737 of course not, but they dont even try, you can do mistakes or get reckd but here they are just going in like a casual dominion, its a loss of time
yooo I was the cent :0
Rinse and repeat most true fact I’ve heard
When you are facing a triple cap it would be best to send 2 players to each zone.
The openers given are solid, but are bit on the defensive side. Dominion is a sector control game mode. Putting pressure on all three zones is strategically better. A simple 1 2 1 approach.
1 2 1 opener beats a 1 3 opener. The enemy zone would be contested which of course means they will not be generating any points. The two players mid have options. Hold off the 3 players until the boosting player comes to their aid(This leaves the 1 2 1 team is a good spot as they are now the only team generating points reliable) or break off of mid and help the contested zone. Its not even all that fictitious that the 2 players mid could feasibly beat the enemy 3 stack. The Boosting player can help mid or continue to boost or creep block.
Freeze be like yo go mid
Me: ok but I'm on ps4 and cant see shit on mid...
Me: **sees the word "Rotations"**
Also me: **cries in FFXIV Red Mage failed melee PTSD**
Every time I play his mode I have a bunch of monkey brains for teammates , it’s infuriating
Is this video out of date, or still accurate?
Already knew this been doing dom tournaments for 4 months now
Oh ok.
If I got bodied the whole game then win the match, I think of lost the battle win the war!
My reason: there are Vikings
Bruh I’ve been playing the is game for a while now but need a team like fr the game always puts me with bot players to “balance” the match.
need a team on PS4: Peluchez97 . I’m like rep 60 but kick rep 150 ass if that helps lol
Meep
comapred
I wish deathmatch was more popular and frankly idk why it isn't. To the people who treat these methods as "3rd fiddle" that game mode is for you. I have won dom matches when the opponents average kills are 10-12 and my teams are 5-6. I've also lost matches because my teammates insist on 3v1ing that one guy in minion lane over and over again while the rest of the enemy team actually keeps the other objectives under control. If killing is all you care about, go play skirmish.
Season 1-2 and half of 3 elimination was the main game mode. I miss those days.
i got yelled at for playing objective and boosting objective. the mic was the cheapest ps1 mic I have ever heard my god. the original xbox would be to good of a mic for what I heard.
Dominion became so boring, i hate to play it. But the problem is that dominion is played more often than a 4vs4 and it's very sad. I just want to fight with people not to think about those points
None of this stuff matters because there's no ranked mod for Xbox. Go in and press buttons.
rinse repeat
@@fkkfreeze if there was a ranked mod, which there should be, this video would be a gold mine. since winning doesn't matter or attribute to any rank whatsoever, what incentive does the KDR player have to learn these things?
I don't care about the reason.
The info is now out there. Apply it or don't.
Whether there is a ranked mode or not has absolutely zero meaning to it.
@@fkkfreeze fair enough
I'm so tired of baboon teammates. Teams that play like it's deathmatch and not king of the hill. Teams will literally capture all the points then like brainless monkeys run off of them and give them back to the enemies. It's frustrating, especially when your teammates have higher KDs then the enemies but you still lose because of brainless plays. I try not to be competitive but it gets frustrating when you're doing tonnes of legwork for your team only to lose, it shakes your confidence
freeze wondering why the community hates him after he repetitively insults it episode 6464846498415343
nice video but
i will just boost the point instead as an assassin hurr durr
Any strategies is totally useless if you team up with fucking stupid AI that Ubi never fix it. So the best strategy is to pray to god for no bot in your team.
@freeze are you going to talk about the repeated lack of action taken by Ubisoft following widespread allegations of sexual misconduct? I'd love to see the For Honor Community address this massive issue and #HoldUbisoftAccountable
it’d be nice to see but it’s probably wishful thinking
No it's not for honor related. That's a discussion for someone somewhere else, we talk about video games here
@@waarschuw1ng I mean... Ubisoft made For Honor. 25% of Ubisoft employees faced harassment, I'm sure that includes people who worked on/who are working on For Honor, I'd say it's pretty related
Source?
@@kaminoko4128
twitter.com/FoundedScarab/status/1395412247166476288?s=19
This thread has a bunch of sources, check it out :))