It’s true, single women above 30 are called Sheng Nu (leftover women). However there is an equally unflattering term for single men unable to marry; they are called Guang Gun (bare branch). The term « bare branch » was chosen since they are unable to contribute to the 'branches' of the family tree/ lineage. They are unable to wed, because of a lack of money or good enough employment. 70% of Chinese women said in a poll that they are not willing to consider a man for marriage if he does not own an appartement. It’s not that Chinese society discriminates against women and privileges men. Both are discriminated, but just in different ways.
There is also a male version ShengNan, so it's not true that it's only for females. Also "sheng" is chosen as a pun as it sounds like the character for "saint", so it's kinda tongue-in-cheek meaning they are pure, but translations only selectively convey the "leftover" meaning, making it sound offensive
The fact that this is almost an Ad for Pheobe is amazing. I love that you and Jack did this for her. I hope she finds her perfect partner and I know having kids is important but remember it doesn't make you any more or less of a family with your partner. Family is what you make of it. I wish the best of luck!
That "so-so" guy is pretty so so. Phoebe, you are such an excellent and amazing lady, you do not need anyone to make you brighter, because you are a diamond!
Age is number. Phoebe can be good wife and adapt child. The way she explained her life is very important and honest. If she comes to USA I am 100% she will get some good person.
i accidentally walked into a marriage market like this in chongqing a few years ago. it was quite an eye-opening experience for me. there are ladies like phoebe in here also. i know of two ladies, one is a chartered account and one is a manager in a govt ministry, somehow they are still single. i wish phoebe good fortune to find the right guy. love from canada.
Great video! Nice idea! 🙂👍 I visited that marriage market a few years ago, it was a really strange thing to see but interesting too. I remember there were plenty of old people who had fallen asleep beside their posters 😂
Yes I think this is a lovely thing you guys did for Phoebe and how Jack was talking about her speaks volumes- really bigging her up. I'm 36 and single. 3/4 years ago I didn't feel like I was as I put it 'stale leftovers' that have been left on the shelf...but now I am starting to. Men in their 30's (and even 40's) have the pick of women much younger. It's definitely a lot harder to meet men in your 30's! Something I wish someone had told me earlier arghhhhaha
She’s a beautiful woman and it really sad society see her as a leftover at 30 😢 in the UK she’s wildly accepted. I wish her the best in her search for the right man…I will be moving to Hangzhou, China for work. Hopefully, I will get to make a video about this interesting topic and share to the world. You guys are very nice to do this for her! Respect!
Hmmm... interesting topic and content! 🤔 Now it is clear and I understand more the idea of their Marriage Market. I think the term Sheng Nu (leftover women) is literally sounds so offensive. Per research, Shengnan is the term for "leftover men'. Kudos to Phoebe! She is one of the Modern Chinese women who I think is a smart, indepent and successful. 😊 Don't mind that 'Sheng Nu' stuff, the age, the pressure, etc. You deserve all the love and hope you can find your perfect match soon! ❤ Thanks again for this interesting video, Jack and Nico! Happy Monday! 😊
Here in Canada we look for love , it has nothing to do with kids well some do . I married for love we don't have kids and I glad of that . If you marry just because you want kids, I think many problems come your way !
As long as you’re happy whether you’re in a relationship or not! Happiness is key, and if single it doesn’t matter! We all have value and still shine like a diamond no matter what!💎❤Great Video, thank you!🙏
It's usually off putting if you start looking for a companion listing what you own. "Beijing account, 3 bedroom, 2 car, worked in a top enterprise" can easily be considered as bragging and as lack of modesty. Also, looking for a partner that has Masters or above ...basically, without consideration you rule out enormous amount of potential candidates. I wonder, do these people look for harmonious relationship or someone to compete with?
Housing and vehicle ownership is really important in China when it comes to relationships, and people will definitely ask about it and put it into consideration. Also, the way these things are setup is similar to a resume where you actually want to flaunt your accomplishments and not be modest.
Haha...Jack is turning out to be a fantastic matchmaker! Phoebe is too good for many out there to be truthful leh! Well, well, well...if faith had a different turn, me would love to have her as a life partner!
There is a bit of cultural cuteness got lost in translation. In Chinese, the word "剩女" sounds exactly same as the other word "圣女". You already know the meaning of the first. The second word means "Saint" or "Virgin". There it is.
To be honest, I don't like the translation "Marriage Markets". People are here to exchange information in order to find good marriage matches. There are no monetary transactions at all. Why not use "Marriage Corners", a more direct translation from the original name in Chinese?
Interesting video, bravo Phoebe for putting herself up for this. Well, let see if fate, 緣份，will take place with this long shot. 😊 I am a gentleman who has compassion, appreciate humanity as well as the oriental beauty of Chinese lady. 亞洲女性很有東方的美。喜歡人的思想有一點温度。 My work requires me to travel to Shaghai /Wuxi often. Lets see if the channel owner see this message and would somehow compose a chapter for the two of us. :)
I imagine birth age went up in China,too, so these aunties and uncles better get on board with times. Average age of a woman having her first child in EU is 29.7y of age. In USA it’s 27.2y old. And it keeps creeping up, so unless society adjusts age will continue to go up.
_"Are you a guy? Do you think that's fair?"_ 9:25 It has nothing to do with "fair." It is reality. If a man is looking to start a family, he is looking for a woman young enough to bear children. Women---not men---have a built-in time limit for accomplishing that. Some people may not like it, but life isn't fair.
In my culture (middle eastern, Jewish) both guys and gals (and non-binary pals!) are pressured from a very young age for marraige and children. We don't really have a term for over-30 and unmarried, but you're definitely judged for it, regardless of gender. Maybe I should send my details, find a nice person to marry and get my folks off my case
Foreigners must realize that China has a very, very different culture from many other countries. And I am an Japanese American Asian too and I know how different Chinese culture is even different from Japanese culture. I thought Chinese culture might be a little similar with Japanese culture but was I surprised!!! No, No, No. Go slow when getting to know a Chinese partner. For one thing, the women quickly raise their voices when having a "small" disagreement. After awhile you start raising your voice too and both start yelling with each other. Difficult.
omg she's so beautiful and soft . i wish i had such an angel for a future wife and lover . Piece of advise please don't put so much pressure on yourself. You might make a wrong choice . Best of love
Yoo women can get pregnante even after 40. But the chances continue to decrease until they hit 50. Then its really rare but not impossible. Also it depends from person to another due to puberty age and other health factors. Just wanted to clarify this point. 30 seems like a peak age, from 20 to 40 its the golden interval for women. And for men its like from 25 to 45
We have some problem inside the major city such as like Shanghai which is only the Rich young person {maybe some bad guys} can marry , but the poor can not marry , this is not fairness , and this was impossible during the MAO age 1949 - 1976 , What can I say , Long live Chairman Mao again ! Because everyone can marry if back to the MAO age , and this is the fairness and Respectable
Dating man made may not last long or happy to have a family we have to love one another from deep within. Leaving aside our education, financial or no matter what he or she is, first love and respect is the first thing in family. There is nothing in love everything is possible in love
well, age in PRChina is really unecessarily cruel. Our grandma's generation used to have 10+ children and give birth often into their forties ( or close) so using 30 as cutoff for olay is really excessive. Not to mention modern medicine is way better than grandma's time. I am from across the strait, stayed in US 5- 9 before being brought back. 41, 6'2" or 1.85, investment analyst/ portfolio manager/ macroeconomist at local broker/asset mgmts. BA/MA Economics Top U on the island named RoChina. No (need for) car a house from late pareants no kids. Speaks English & Mandarin dual native, some South Fujien and Japanese. Christian.
I thought she's beautiful, and you are exceedingly BEAUTIFUL too Nico! I am a 4th generation American of Asian ancestry. My buddies and I are a bunch of 6ft 1 to 6ft 3, meat eating (as a matter of fact, we eat anything moves or used to move), gym going, outdoor sports loving and big game hunting red blooded carnivores with either Masters or Doctoral degrees. So please ask her if she will be willing to go out with some nice dudes from the States..., guys will 'devour' her alive :).
What did that girl with her life till 33 years? millions dollars,buyed 2-3 houses or just was a entertainment object for other man and now what to find a man who save her ?
@pk621575no she is not looking for chinese guy, she actually want non chinese I believe, but none of them want to settle down with her maybe ? listen back again what she said
This Marriage market is so very unproductive. Instead of having every parent one by one, come to ask about how the woman look like , or to ask for the woman's contacts, its 100,000 times more productive to simply put her contacts , on same paper as advertisement , +at same time print out a page of her photo on glossy photo paper
left over... that's ..ouch ! well i dont know maybe not being born as chinese is a good thing 😂 well im not over 35 yet just a little pass 30 BUT i guess i kind of get why my mom is starting to panic now hahaha 😂 aiya!
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Jack's Chinese is great, I hope he keeps practicing even though he's no longer in China.
It’s true, single women above 30 are called Sheng Nu (leftover women). However there is an equally unflattering term for single men unable to marry; they are called Guang Gun (bare branch). The term « bare branch » was chosen since they are unable to contribute to the 'branches' of the family tree/ lineage.
They are unable to wed, because of a lack of money or good enough employment. 70% of Chinese women said in a poll that they are not willing to consider a man for marriage if he does not own an appartement.
It’s not that Chinese society discriminates against women and privileges men. Both are discriminated, but just in different ways.
This explanation is perfect.
Women are just good at crying, men are not.
There is also a male version ShengNan, so it's not true that it's only for females.
Also "sheng" is chosen as a pun as it sounds like the character for "saint", so it's kinda tongue-in-cheek meaning they are pure, but translations only selectively convey the "leftover" meaning, making it sound offensive
@@Sky-rw5vq wow, so interesting... thanks
The fact that this is almost an Ad for Pheobe is amazing. I love that you and Jack did this for her. I hope she finds her perfect partner and I know having kids is important but remember it doesn't make you any more or less of a family with your partner. Family is what you make of it. I wish the best of luck!
Thank you so much! It was lots of fun to make together and Phoebe was a great sport to be involved!
That "so-so" guy is pretty so so.
Phoebe, you are such an excellent and amazing lady, you do not need anyone to make you brighter, because you are a diamond!
He is extremely so-so, he wants a euro girlfriend who can speak native level English but he can barely form a coherent sentence, smh
Nice cope. You’ll be doing tht only for rest of your life, if you don’t accept reality and move forward.
Age is number. Phoebe can be good wife and adapt child. The way she explained her life is very important and honest. If she comes to USA I am 100% she will get some good person.
i accidentally walked into a marriage market like this in chongqing a few years ago. it was quite an eye-opening experience for me. there are ladies like phoebe in here also. i know of two ladies, one is a chartered account and one is a manager in a govt ministry, somehow they are still single. i wish phoebe good fortune to find the right guy. love from canada.
I hear great things about Chongqing, & want to go there soon. People say Chogching women are beautiful & more traditional
Great video! Nice idea! 🙂👍 I visited that marriage market a few years ago, it was a really strange thing to see but interesting too. I remember there were plenty of old people who had fallen asleep beside their posters 😂
wow this is pretty interesting and Jack did such a brilliant job 😆
wow this episode takes Nico's videos to a next level! 👏
thanks so much!
Jack, you're absolutely killing it talking to 叔叔s and 阿姨s！厉害！😀👍
yah killing it!
那个说just so so的普信男真是绝了
Thank you for the video. It was very interesting and entertaining.
I have been to the marriage market in People's Park! Very interesting!
this video is really interesting, hope she find her Mr.Right!😊
You guys need to get back to China asap. You make some of the most funny, fun and eye opening videos about China.
And disappear forever 😂
Fabulous opportunity to change the level of awareness and conversations related to this educational topic!
Yes I think this is a lovely thing you guys did for Phoebe and how Jack was talking about her speaks volumes- really bigging her up.
I'm 36 and single. 3/4 years ago I didn't feel like I was as I put it 'stale leftovers' that have been left on the shelf...but now I am starting to. Men in their 30's (and even 40's) have the pick of women much younger. It's definitely a lot harder to meet men in your 30's! Something I wish someone had told me earlier arghhhhaha
Phoebe is so beautiful and confident, hope she could find the lucky nerd or i am gonna apply for a phd degree 🤣
I know someone who's 42 years old and she had her first baby last year.
I loved this video❤
Your videos are incredible !~ I wonder if you guys will continue to make more videos in the future
Yay good job!!!! Gooooo Phoebe!!!!!
She’s a beautiful woman and it really sad society see her as a leftover at 30 😢 in the UK she’s wildly accepted.
I wish her the best in her search for the right man…I will be moving to Hangzhou, China for work. Hopefully, I will get to make a video about this interesting topic and share to the world.
You guys are very nice to do this for her! Respect!
she has 213000 followers you believe that story ?
Her standard is hard to reach
Loved this video! I laughed so much 😂 I was at this market many many times and got asked. I think it’s so cool that phoebe gave it a try!
Yeah it was a really fun video to make Phoebe was a good sport and poor Jack really got stuck in there trying to help her out haha
There are also online dating platforms, 2 of my friends got married through those platforms.
@ThePHiLsTeR Some do, some don't.
TanTan is the most popular one that I am familiar with. It's a bit of a joke, since there are very few "real" people. Mostly bots or scammers.
@@zack2804 My friends used 世纪佳缘 and 珍爱网, back then they were big online dating platforms.
I’ve never heard of this marriage market. It’s hard finding, it’s nice to have something like a marriage market.
Does this marriage arrangements still happening?
Very interesting video, I couldn't help laughing, I hope she can find her Mr. right.
Hmmm... interesting topic and content! 🤔 Now it is clear and I understand more the idea of their Marriage Market. I think the term Sheng Nu (leftover women) is literally sounds so offensive. Per research, Shengnan is the term for "leftover men'. Kudos to Phoebe! She is one of the Modern Chinese women who I think is a smart, indepent and successful. 😊 Don't mind that 'Sheng Nu' stuff, the age, the pressure, etc. You deserve all the love and hope you can find your perfect match soon! ❤ Thanks again for this interesting video, Jack and Nico! Happy Monday! 😊
I can't imagine any guy not being interested in Phoebe as she is quite attractive and being 30 years old is not an issue nowadays.
Cheers sending pictures ;D
Here in Canada we look for love , it has nothing to do with kids well some do . I married for love we don't have kids and I glad of that . If you marry just because you want kids, I think many problems come your way !
hi! who paid for the hotel while you were in lockdown ? it must have been expensive...
Phoebe did as she was already staying there. But she got a heavily discounted rate for the days we were in lockdown.
Phoebe seems like a great person! Also brave and trusting to leave her love life in Nico and Jack's hands!
As long as you’re happy whether you’re in a relationship or not! Happiness is key, and if single it doesn’t matter! We all have value and still shine like a diamond no matter what!💎❤Great Video, thank you!🙏
Phoebe is so great❤❤
And the guy was so rude and impolite…
I know right! She is a star!
It's usually off putting if you start looking for a companion listing what you own. "Beijing account, 3 bedroom, 2 car, worked in a top enterprise" can easily be considered as bragging and as lack of modesty. Also, looking for a partner that has Masters or above ...basically, without consideration you rule out enormous amount of potential candidates. I wonder, do these people look for harmonious relationship or someone to compete with?
Housing and vehicle ownership is really important in China when it comes to relationships, and people will definitely ask about it and put it into consideration.
Also, the way these things are setup is similar to a resume where you actually want to flaunt your accomplishments and not be modest.
Haha...Jack is turning out to be a fantastic matchmaker! Phoebe is too good for many out there to be truthful leh! Well, well, well...if faith had a different turn, me would love to have her as a life partner!
Hoping visit Shanhai soon 🙂
There is a bit of cultural cuteness got lost in translation. In Chinese, the word "剩女" sounds exactly same as the other word "圣女". You already know the meaning of the first. The second word means "Saint" or "Virgin". There it is.
That guy was so rude, just shut up and leave Jack alone, go to Europe then
please help him find european girl asap !!
Not getting married can not frightened me but it is horrible when the same situation happen in the job market...
How to contact Phoebe ???? That guy looking for European girl while searching at Chinese marriage market is hilarious 😂🤭
Jack's mandarin is 100% better than mines!
To be honest, I don't like the translation "Marriage Markets". People are here to exchange information in order to find good marriage matches. There are no monetary transactions at all. Why not use "Marriage Corners", a more direct translation from the original name in Chinese?
The are no photos of the girls on posts
I am interested
jack‘s chinese getting better and better👍
Oh Bless!
Good luck Phoebe ❤
Sabrina🇫🇷🇬🇧
I want to know more aboutp Phoebe 😅 just getting to know each other stage first is perfectly fine!
Interesting video, bravo Phoebe for putting herself up for this. Well, let see if fate, 緣份，will take place with this long shot. 😊
I am a gentleman who has compassion, appreciate humanity as well as the oriental beauty of Chinese lady. 亞洲女性很有東方的美。喜歡人的思想有一點温度。 My work requires me to travel to Shaghai /Wuxi often. Lets see if the channel owner see this message and would somehow compose a chapter for the two of us. :)
i also love love
I imagine birth age went up in China,too, so these aunties and uncles better get on board with times. Average age of a woman having her first child in EU is 29.7y of age. In USA it’s 27.2y old. And it keeps creeping up, so unless society adjusts age will continue to go up.
I am here for her! ;)
Lots of girls like me and some people asked me to marry them but I am too picky! I am 175cm
I'm a nerdy artist who love chinese culture 😁
这是婚恋介绍平台，相亲角，不是什么婚姻市场。
Is she still seeking love ?? ❤
_"Are you a guy? Do you think that's fair?"_ 9:25
It has nothing to do with "fair." It is reality. If a man is looking to start a family, he is looking for a woman young enough to bear children. Women---not men---have a built-in time limit for accomplishing that. Some people may not like it, but life isn't fair.
Phoebe should move to California where there are a lot of Aisan American guys that graduated from top universities that would love to meet her.
Poor Jack 😂
Ignore what that guy said about Pheobe's appearance. Phoebe is "So So BEAUTIFUL" & young! Come to romantic Canada.
I feel like once I finally get to China I should stop by the marriage market. However, I'm a little too old for Chinese standards.
In my culture (middle eastern, Jewish) both guys and gals (and non-binary pals!) are pressured from a very young age for marraige and children. We don't really have a term for over-30 and unmarried, but you're definitely judged for it, regardless of gender. Maybe I should send my details, find a nice person to marry and get my folks off my case
Wanna move to Hawaii?
Let's get Pheobe married off and pumping out kids asap!
Women 30 year old or older are called " Leftover women" !That is some deep Shaolin shit broo
RIP Phoebe's phone for real
Foreigners must realize that China has a very, very different culture from many other countries. And I am an Japanese American Asian too and I know how different Chinese culture is even different from Japanese culture. I thought Chinese culture might be a little similar with Japanese culture but was I surprised!!! No, No, No. Go slow when getting to know a Chinese partner. For one thing, the women quickly raise their voices when having a "small" disagreement. After awhile you start raising your voice too and both start yelling with each other. Difficult.
She is beautiful
omg she's so beautiful and soft . i wish i had such an angel for a future wife and lover . Piece of advise please don't put so much pressure on yourself. You might make a wrong choice . Best of love
Yoo women can get pregnante even after 40. But the chances continue to decrease until they hit 50. Then its really rare but not impossible.
Also it depends from person to another due to puberty age and other health factors.
Just wanted to clarify this point.
30 seems like a peak age, from 20 to 40 its the golden interval for women.
And for men its like from 25 to 45
I need a serious relationship which I pray to end up in bless marriage
Am a Nigerian.
We have some problem inside the major city such as like Shanghai which is only the Rich young person {maybe some bad guys} can marry , but the poor can not marry , this is not fairness , and this was impossible during the MAO age 1949 - 1976 , What can I say , Long live Chairman Mao again ! Because everyone can marry if back to the MAO age , and this is the fairness and Respectable
Phoebe is a lovely woman she would be a good catch for any man, pity I am a 69 yr old widower.
Is Royal still looking for a western girl?
I’m not sure, are you interested? ☺️
Dating man made may not last long or happy to have a family we have to love one another from deep within. Leaving aside our education, financial or no matter what he or she is, first love and respect is the first thing in family. There is nothing in love everything is possible in love
Cattle market
30 in our country is not old. A lot getting marry above 35. Not a problem. Many still be able to get pregnant easily.
I think she needs a researcher or professor! Go to university again~😂
国外生活多年，就这
I would like to meet phoebe she is beautiful ❤
well, age in PRChina is really unecessarily cruel. Our grandma's generation used to have 10+ children and give birth often into their forties ( or close) so using 30 as cutoff for olay is really excessive. Not to mention modern medicine is way better than grandma's time.
I am from across the strait, stayed in US 5- 9 before being brought back. 41, 6'2" or 1.85, investment analyst/ portfolio manager/ macroeconomist at local broker/asset mgmts. BA/MA Economics Top U on the island named RoChina. No (need for) car a house from late pareants no kids. Speaks English & Mandarin dual native, some South Fujien and Japanese. Christian.
Phoebe still riding the carousel
I thought she's beautiful, and you are exceedingly BEAUTIFUL too Nico! I am a 4th generation American of Asian ancestry. My buddies and I are a bunch of 6ft 1 to 6ft 3, meat eating (as a matter of fact, we eat anything moves or used to move), gym going, outdoor sports loving and big game hunting red blooded carnivores with either Masters or Doctoral degrees. So please ask her if she will be willing to go out with some nice dudes from the States..., guys will 'devour' her alive :).
What did that girl with her life till 33 years? millions dollars,buyed 2-3 houses or just was a entertainment object for other man and now what to find a man who save her ?
oh please put me in touch with her! I'm planning to go back to china ! I'm fluent in chinese too!
@ThePHiLsTeR I'm definitely a nerd in some areas, Ba in chinese language and culture, with a master in teaching to foreigners
We are doing a live together tomorrow morning at 10.15 China time you can ask her yourself if you have any questions. She might be interested!
@@Nicofilms 1015 china time is 4 am for me....
@ThePHiLsTeR That's right a Chinese guy. Foreigners are off her menu.
@pk621575no she is not looking for chinese guy, she actually want non chinese I believe, but none of them want to settle down with her maybe ? listen back again what she said
This Marriage market is so very unproductive.
Instead of having every parent one by one,
come to ask about how the woman look like ,
or to ask for the woman's contacts,
its 100,000 times more productive to simply put her contacts ,
on same paper as advertisement ,
+at same time print out a page of her photo on glossy photo paper
❤❤❤❤❤
Its not harsh they have right a girl can find easy a men untul 27 year a men its discutable
South African male, 50 Durban
The French First Lady was the French President’s high school teacher. So you can really get married at any age.
left over... that's ..ouch ! well i dont know maybe not being born as chinese is a good thing 😂 well im not over 35 yet just a little pass 30 BUT i guess i kind of get why my mom is starting to panic now hahaha 😂 aiya!
It's actually a tongue-in-cheek pun, but translations ignore that
Very harsh term!
I can not show my face in Chinese church again. I didn't have a Chinese wife and kids before I hit a certain age.
How is such a hottie still not married? Life sure is strange
I know right! I think she’s just not found the right person at the right time.
Come home Bibi ❤😂
wow what a beautiful lady.
One Guang Gun here looking for my Sheng Nu hit me up ladies
it's the same in every culture and the west