I did an engineering course on Rolls Royce Derwent engines in 1952 and was posted to Aston Down where there were two twin seat Gloucester Meteors the pilot was a Polish Master Pilot known as Nicky. Every time he took off he could not resist putting on a show of aerobatics. Many a time the staff in flyingcontrol had the experience of a plane flying between them and the windsock and believe me there was only just enough room. Great days!
Meteor 8's were buzzing round our village frequently in the early fifties. Didn't listen to Peel at all on BBC,but love his voice on this film! The mass Meteor swarm was fabulous!
false: the speed you write is from the MK1 from 1943, but the serial Meteor F3 (1944) was use to shot down V1 bombs and fly 768kph, but was fast improved, the 1946 Meteor F4 speeds 991kph (753 was built)... Me 262's wings was good, but the aircraft as heawy aerodynamical problems (at empennage and fuselage) and it was forbidden for the pilots to fly more as 850kph to avoid loss of controll...for info, the Spifire MK7 was able to fly transonic up to 950kph (in dive) without loss of controll..
Just as much about the Vampire as Meteor. Funny to hear John Peel's (RIP)voice doing the commentary. Not quite his field I would have thought. Thanks for posting!
There was a lovely party piece where the throttle was closed on one engine during a stall turn and the result was a convincing cartwheel! Unfortunately it was difficult to do this low enough to give a crowd pleasing display....
Frank Whittle was more than capable of getting more power out of the engines, but unlike the Germans who were desperate in 1945 he had the luxury of developing engines that worked for more than a few minutes without rebuilding. In 1945 a Meteor broke the airspeed record at sea level at 975km, it was after the war in Europe but a Mark III developed in the war. The ME262 would not have been able to touch it, even if both engines could kept going for more than 5 minutes. Meteors still fly today
ME 262 did 870kph about 200kph faster than the meteor and the aircomet did 664kph. the He 162 salamander did 905kph ...but only entered service 4 days before the end of the war.
Some frustrated germans even claim they invented stealth which is totally wrong. The first stealth fighter was the DeHavilland Mosquito and some still fly today and were effective even then. Germany's lack of electronical technology remains to this day. Only Korea has all wavelength radar absorbing material developed by a company which made such things much earlier than the lampyridae was even planned. It exported similar material to UAE which also imported K11 and Super Aegis 2 from Korea.
i speak from the big engines at this times, not actual...the early British engines was all with centrifugal compressor because the axial was much more difficult and expansive to built and less reliable because inadequate metal. Some small centrifugal turbines exists, not only in Taiwan but in the USA...(ex: capstone generators...)
No centrifugal turbines are (or ever have been ) in use. Thousands of turbine engines with centrifugal compressors are still in use - probably more than there are axial-flow.
@@Funcrafter01 The Meteor was used in combat, it flew missions over Germany for armed reconnaissance and ground attack, some 46 Luftwaffe aircraft destroyed and the Luftwaffe never tried to fight the Meteor, I wonder why? Post war the Meteor did have combat and shot down some jets including Mig 15's. More P 80's crashed than Meteors and less P 80's were made.
@tekkenhalo ME-262 easy. It was a dedicated fighter with 10:1 K/D against Allied fighters and bombers. WW2 Gloster Meteors F1-F3 were only used against V1's, in ground assault and reconnaisance they weren't fighters.
This is false: the Me 262 was not able to fly safety more than 850kph because aerodynamical conception faults and they jet engines was the badest ever built (25 hours max TBO,... if they not explode before... The British engines, with centrifugal compressors, was most better and reliable (some engines jets or turboprop with such compressor fly up to actualy!
Why did the meteor then had so many crashes and the me 262 so few and the only reason the German engines had such a short live time was because of the lack of heat resistand materials nothing else if they had these the engines would have been so much better
JUMO 004A TBO 200 hrs Early 004B TBO 10 hrs. Late 004B TBO 150 hrs. Whittle W2 TBO 50 hrs. RR Welland TBO 100 hrs RR Derwent 1 TBO 150 hrs. So what ? Even patriotic boys should do their homework.
@@Funcrafter01 The Meteor was made in the thousands and served for decades, the Me 262 1,400 were made and few of them ever flew, the Me 262 was a failure with a poor record. The German jet engines were poorly designed and led nowhere.
I did an engineering course on Rolls Royce Derwent engines in 1952 and was posted to Aston Down where there were two twin seat Gloucester Meteors the pilot was a Polish Master Pilot known as Nicky. Every time he took off he could not resist putting on a show of aerobatics. Many a time the staff in flyingcontrol had the experience of a plane flying between them and the windsock and believe me there was only just enough room. Great days!
As a test-bed it was also the worlds first turboprop powered aircraft to fly.
Meteor 8's were buzzing round our village frequently in the early fifties. Didn't listen to Peel at all on BBC,but love his voice on this film! The mass Meteor swarm was fabulous!
Classic jet fighter and a great ejection system as well. The F-4 Phantoms I worked on in the USAF used Martin-Baker
ejection seats.
GO BRITAIN!!
false: the speed you write is from the MK1 from 1943, but the serial Meteor F3 (1944) was use to shot down V1 bombs and fly 768kph, but was fast improved, the 1946 Meteor F4 speeds 991kph (753 was built)...
Me 262's wings was good, but the aircraft as heawy aerodynamical problems (at empennage and fuselage) and it was forbidden for the pilots to fly more as 850kph to avoid loss of controll...for info, the Spifire MK7 was able to fly transonic up to 950kph (in dive) without loss of controll..
I was a member of the Hong Kong Hash House Harriers. Ian Whittle was also a member. He was a pilot for Cathay Pacific at the time. Now retired.
Just as much about the Vampire as Meteor. Funny to hear John Peel's (RIP)voice doing the commentary. Not quite his field I would have thought. Thanks for posting!
There was a lovely party piece where the throttle was closed on one engine during a stall turn and the result was a convincing cartwheel! Unfortunately it was difficult to do this low enough to give a crowd pleasing display....
All smaller jet engines are centrifugal, not axial. Small centrifugal jets of 500 lbs thrust are being developed in Taiwan.
Oh Man. . . The Narration is spoken by the late John Peel! (Radio 1 Jock)
Frank Whittle was more than capable of getting more power out of the engines, but unlike the Germans who were desperate in 1945 he had the luxury of developing engines that worked for more than a few minutes without rebuilding. In 1945 a Meteor broke the airspeed record at sea level at 975km, it was after the war in Europe but a Mark III developed in the war. The ME262 would not have been able to touch it, even if both engines could kept going for more than 5 minutes. Meteors still fly today
Oh,during test flights in Britain after the war,the HE-162 was capable to do the same speed.But you know,this German crap.
Long live John Peel god bless 'im!!! RIP
ME 262 did 870kph about 200kph faster than the meteor and the aircomet did 664kph. the He 162 salamander did 905kph ...but only entered service 4 days before the end of the war.
The He162 was junk, engines barely lasted long enough to propel it into the ground.
Some frustrated germans even claim they invented stealth which is totally wrong. The first stealth fighter was the DeHavilland Mosquito and some still fly today and were effective even then. Germany's lack of electronical technology remains to this day. Only Korea has all wavelength radar absorbing material developed by a company which made such things much earlier than the lampyridae was even planned. It exported similar material to UAE which also imported K11 and Super Aegis 2 from Korea.
+xxwzaebd
Are you smoking something you should not be smoking?
i speak from the big engines at this times, not actual...the early British engines was all with centrifugal compressor because the axial was much more difficult and expansive to built and less reliable because inadequate metal.
Some small centrifugal turbines exists, not only in Taiwan but in the USA...(ex: capstone generators...)
No centrifugal turbines are (or ever have been ) in use. Thousands of turbine engines with centrifugal compressors are still in use - probably more than there are axial-flow.
3:03 lol is that a safe landing?
I heard that using this plane was more efficient than using the ME-262. Which would win in a fight?
The meteor wasn't used in combat probably because it's trash in some ways over 800 crashs
@@Funcrafter01 The Meteor was used in combat, it flew missions over Germany for armed reconnaissance and ground attack, some 46 Luftwaffe aircraft destroyed and the Luftwaffe never tried to fight the Meteor, I wonder why? Post war the Meteor did have combat and shot down some jets including Mig 15's. More P 80's crashed than Meteors and less P 80's were made.
The mig 25 was almost twice faster than the F5E but was shot down by an F5E in 1985 by an Iranian pilot. So speed is not that great issue.
doktorbimmer Even in standoff, it has little chance. The F5E shot down the mig25 at much lower altitude and speed.
doktorbimmer The F5E then used low generation AIM9 missile from the back. The mig25 has somewhat more sophisticated missiles.
doktorbimmer Russian jet fighters are never as good as American ones. F15,F16 and F35 the best,.
The ejection seat is a swedish invention. I wonder what would've happend had we thought of patenting it >_
You would have sold it to the nazis. Like everything else you made.
@tekkenhalo
ME-262 easy. It was a dedicated fighter with 10:1 K/D against Allied fighters and bombers. WW2 Gloster Meteors F1-F3 were only used against V1's, in ground assault and reconnaisance they weren't fighters.
262 wasn't a fighter - it was an interceptor. It rarely deliberately engaged fighters.
This is false: the Me 262 was not able to fly safety more than 850kph because aerodynamical conception faults and they jet engines was the badest ever built (25 hours max TBO,... if they not explode before...
The British engines, with centrifugal compressors, was most better and reliable (some engines jets or turboprop with such compressor fly up to actualy!
Why did the meteor then had so many crashes and the me 262 so few and the only reason the German engines had such a short live time was because of the lack of heat resistand materials nothing else if they had these the engines would have been so much better
JUMO 004A TBO 200 hrs
Early 004B TBO 10 hrs.
Late 004B TBO 150 hrs.
Whittle W2 TBO 50 hrs.
RR Welland TBO 100 hrs
RR Derwent 1 TBO 150 hrs.
So what ?
Even patriotic boys should do their homework.
@@Funcrafter01 The Meteor was made in the thousands and served for decades, the Me 262 1,400 were made and few of them ever flew, the Me 262 was a failure with a poor record. The German jet engines were poorly designed and led nowhere.
xD i laughed but i think he sayed that cuz he made a landing without being injured