Peter Hitchens: "We've used Ukraine as a battering ram against Russia"
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Peter Hitchens: "We've used Ukraine as a battering ram against Russia. Ukraine is the victim of our militancy. We've done the shouting, they get bombed."
#peterhitchens #mikegraham #ukraine #russia
Thank you Peter for standing your ground on this subject. Talking sense and facts. No dramatics.
Will he apologise for taking the injections so he can travel for his job? No mention of that any more.
He's talking rubbish and presenting a very distorted pro Russian version of recent history. This is Putin's long term plan. It has not been caused by NATO or the Ukraine.
@@robertstorey7476 There may well be a valid argument from the Russian side, however invading Ukraine is not going to get anyone to listen to it. The 'expansion of NATO' argument no longer rings true in light of the invasion as Putin is by definition moving his forces closer, not the other way round.
He'd better watch out he also doesn't get banned!
@@robertstorey7476 that's some high quality satire. I needed a good laugh today. Do you do stand up?
No matter what you think of Putin, you have to give him credit for ending the pandemic.
I'm pretty sure western governments just spin a wheel to decide which doomsday disaster they will terrorise the world with next. We've already had impending environmental collapse, a pandemic and those pesky Russians, maybe we're due a flying saucer invasion sometime soon.
Peter is right to say Putin is finished now.
Biggest mistake he ever made.
Europe is going to collapse...no more energy from russia, iran and china
And what of China and its puppet states?.
No customers.
@@TheGreatGodPan they have to remind us why we need them
Hitchens was right at the beginning of the 'pandemic' and he's right now.
No he's been wrong. He said Putin would not invade Ukraine. I still agree he's mostly correct about most things and definitely covid.
@@steadfastandyx4947 No. He said if Putin invades then he's mad. Cant you read?
@@steadfastandyx4947 , except he didn't. He said perfectly clear that he wouldn't rule it out because he didn't really know one way or the other. He said he thought it was very unlikely due to various reasons he outlined previously.
@@oliverreno4734 Indeed I can read but I did not need to because I heard (listened) Mr Hitchens say it and I interpreted it as I have. Btw this was two or so weeks sgo.
@@SagaciousFrank Mr Hitchens is very, very good. Nevertheless, a couple of weeks ago he stated Mr Putin would not invade Ukraine.
Peter Hitchens is one of the few talking any bit of sense on this issue.
Also check out David Starkey's take.
He said there'd be no invasion.
@@stephfoxwell4620 Yes - I recall Peter last week on Talk Radio saying "Putin would be crazy to invade Ukraine" and that it wouldn't happen, that the Media and western governments were hysterical. Points about the West's role up-to this point aside, he was wrong in his prediction of what Putin would do.
Washington has been very quiet.
Letting Putin dig his own grave.
Hilarious.
@@stephfoxwell4620 so the media would have you believe.
Peter Hitchens one of the very few sane intelligent people on this topic.
in the world
Yeah right - two weeks ago he was saying on GBNews that he couldn't see any reason why Putin would invade. I see he's been downgraded to having to speak to concrete boy now.
@@abbienormal1411 I'd say he changed his mind as soon as Ukraine joined nato,,,, nobody saw that coming,,, absolutly nobody,,, insanity it is,,, it's like the Russians putting a military base in Mexico or Cuba for that'matter like they did before during the cold War,,,, I'm seeing a lot of discrimination towards Russia people who have nothing to do with it,,,,, the EU and nato have caused this,,,
@@abbienormal1411 Why do you expect perfection from people? I bet you like our politicians who've never a mistake, with spotless records.
As a Pole living in Great Britain, I am extremely positively surprised by what I hear. Mr. Peter Hitchens, my compliments for the courage and objective assessment of the events taking place in Ukraine. People like you should definitely occupy state positions.
His brother was better (Christopher), but yeah, I agree with everything he said here.
You don't know this person Lukasz.... he says whatever he thinks will get ratings. Whilst he may say one thing he is actually part of the ideological group that have been instrumental in bringing about hatred and division across the world...
We do have many old Communists in government as it stands already
I agree Lukasz. Peter upsets many people by speaking truth.
@IonCrox is that it? He upsets people? Do you have any idea what he is a part of? No, probably not. There is a wave of hate that has been building in this world for at least 10 years and that person is part of it, intolerance, racism, xenophobia. And when hatred rises across the world what happens... let me tell you. Violence is what happens, violence and war. And here we are and that person is part of the machinery that created a world of hate. Look around.
Peter expressing some common sense on the issue. If only more would listen to him.
They are brainwashed
@@andresviveros3994 no help for the 🐑. The media barks and they flock to their enclosure
Hitchens amongst the debris gathers gold. Appreciate the non-hysterical types left in the world.
I think your conflating "non-hysterical types" lol with people who don't smile lololol or people who are just completely devoid of empathy and joy. 🤣🤣🤣🤣❤
I like him but he said something along the lines of "Putin would have to be insane to invade the Ukraine" which implied he didn't think Putin would do it.
@@lewisner he didn't think Putin would, he got that wrong. Everyone else knew it was coming.
am sure he could have found good reasons for the Germans attacking Poland in 1939
the problem is that he is totally wrong about the war and tits consequences for Russia and the world - typical western blidness, thinking Russia will suffer mujch due to the sanctions
Hitchens talking sense this is not our War. Boris is happy the heat is off him for the time being acting with promises he can't keep 🙄 shame he has not got the same passion for the people in this country well being
Why has boris gone so mad on this , when at home in UK migrant invasion the biggest threat to UK 🇬🇧since ww2 both financially and socially fix that 🤔
Biden, Boris and Trudeau all see this as a blessing in disguise.
What happened to Boris being questioned about partying and the case about face mask contracts? Swept under carpet! Now we spend money on the war we could have avoided if we agreed that Ukraine remained neutral! And our NHS is in collapsing and needs finance! Brexit borders in a mess , Irish problem, inflation!! Suits Boris now Ukraine because doesn’t know how to deal with domestic problems
Peter always talks absolute sense and reason. His knowledge of these matters is second to none. He is of high principle and values. He is so right about the UK Governments over estimation of itself.
He has values but they are quite estranged from the real human struggle. I've never seen him smile or express genuine understanding towards us proletariat's lol, he often condemns groups such as poor abused women who seek alternatives to continuing on with birth and pregnancy or those far removed from the 1 percent, who make un-educated but innocent decisions that trap them in poverty and degradation. I couldn't imagine him living amongst socially housed citizens experiencing the constraints of disability, lack of access to social resources and living completely and utterly alone, with him then having any personal feelings of emotional warmth and understanding.
No he doesn’t. He is clearly incredibly arrogant and will not admit when he is wrong.
He's victim blaming, if you agree with him you're extremely gullible.
Peter speaks truth
The truth is rarer than gold. Hitchens at least tries harder to find it.
Hitchens needs his own show. Douglas Murray has one on GB News now.
Definitely
A podcast would be better!!
I wouldn't have thought Hitchens would be part of that clown show G.B news do you?
@@yetidodger6650 😂
@@yetidodger6650 he has no trouble working for the Daily Mail group - he's a social conservative, after all. It's not unthinkable.
But while I might disagree with him on drug policy or gay marriage, Hitchens is decent, honest and one of the very few informed and sane commentators on foreign affairs. He doesn't just repeat official talking points. He spent many years in Russia, reporting admirably on the decline of the USSR and the Yeltsin era. I believe he'll be proved largely right about Corona too when all the facts have come out.
I disagree with most of what he says, but here it's crystal clear and correct. NATO made this entirely avoidable situation a reality.
no one forces someone to order an invasion. He is no better than Trump with his disgusting 'genius' comment
@@vanpallandt5799 How many countries did Trump invade again?
@@vanpallandt5799 did you bother to listen to the whole interview of Trump or as usual nitpicking?
@@yuehyingtseng8995 anyone using the expression genius re an invasion of this kind is a very silly chap, to use strong, salty language..btw i think you mean 'cherry picking'
Disagree all you want, the mans spitting facts!
I remember looking on in shock when Russian speakers in Ukraine were told that they could no longer use their own language anymore. All Russian language newspapers were banned and TV stations taken off the air. The west said nothing.
And the Russian foreign minister said that the Russian language was banned and the media is not listening to him
Imagine if Drakeford banned English being spoken in Wales. There would be uproar in parliament
Exactly, nevermind the Ukraine Army and Neo Nazi Battalions shelling and killing innocent civilians ( Children especially ) . NATO has created this issue!
Was this banning of Russian language recent ?
Don't be silly Peter this man has been at the top of Russian politics for 20 years this wasn't the act of a madman. This is a calculated move by putin. He is not "mad" as Peter says.
Putin suffers from paranoia, so he is mad
@Jon First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
Exactly. He might be an ex-KGB thug but stupid he is not. For all we know this battle is but one more chess move in a war we can't yet see.
@@mogznwaz Russia and chin have been hoarding gold since 2008. The Russians and Chinese have been playing 4d chess around the clowns in the West
No way you can get to that position and stay there for decades without being calculated
A balanced & level headed take on the issue, rather than the jingoistic & ignorant hivemind. Great stuff!
I agree. What we're seeing is frenzied one-way propaganda from the mainstream.
Correct again. The man is a treasure
Bury him then.
Yet another national "treasure"...The list of national "treasures" is growing...
Very very few people are talking the truth about the matter and instead jump on the same bandwagon of people that told us we weren't allowed to go outside or visit our dying family members in hospital....last week it was to dangerous to step outside ,now it's ok to risk nuclear armageddon
Yes agree & talk radio has been scaremongering & scaring our young like they haven't had enough! been suffocated with stinking muzzles etc & get injected or you kill granny ,pure evil . talk of world war puts fear into folk ,not me I'm critical thinker !send that lot in parliament let pepper pig go first .don't volunteer youngsters again .do they care about them after? no they don't .more homeless ex military that civilians .not 1 phone call with another narrative to this.Its now like MSM run by same people . Anyone see clip with film crew with sirens & all screaming & said cut & camera crew 2 takes 🧐🤯
This man is 100 percent right well done peter good on ya.
if only we had leaders like Hitchens, he actually knows what he's talking about. Ukraine has been used.
Perfectly predictable. Zelensky is a fool. Or is compromised.
@@Torgo1969 zelensky wants to keep his ill gotten position and ill gotten gains. Nothing more.
20% of Ukraines wanted to join nato in 2012. Since russia invaded crimera its now 70%. Putin has played himself.
@@GromDarkwater Bullshit. He stayed in his capital, that will soon come under siege. That takes courage, keyboard warrior.
@@lordmcdeath01 by your own logic then the Nazis were courageous defending Berlin as the USSR and Allies got close. You are one sick individual do you know that. Praising a man who's direct action has lead to the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians.
Now we have to worship the new Messiah, Zelensky the Hero,the New Adam,I am sick of propaganda,well said Mr.Hitchens.
Zelensky and Greta. Our new religious Messiahs.
@@colliehouse3133 Agreed.😀👍
So good to hear you, Mr. Hitchens - a voice of sanity in sad, depressing times.
You do know only a few weeks ago he said there was no way Russia was going to invade Ukraine right?
@@testudohorsfieldii7052 I didn`t write ´infallible` ;o) - I think most people were wrong about how far Putin was prepared to go concerning Ukraine. But - to add a hopeful note - you may want to check out John Mearsheimer, 2015, about the Ukraine being lead down the primrose path by the West and in the end being crushed. He also said that Russia had accepted both the 1999 and 2004 NATO expansion - but that Russia said from 2006 onward that the integration of both Georgia and Ukraine was unacceptable.
The Ukraine should be a neutral buffer state and should not be enticed into the EU and NATO. Nor should it be aligned with Russia. The Ukraine should trade with the whole world, attract foreign investment and fight its own endemic corruption.
That's really Putin's only demand.
I am afraid, it is too late.
Too late now
@@alexandrekodentsov9398 It was always too late.
@@carlvandenberg140 Looks like Ukraine is winning the info/social media war and Russia is winning the ground war, the one that counts. Soon now Russia will be in command.
finally someone saying it exactly as it is! stop poking Putin simple!
Peter tries to have a grown up conversation unlike the large majority of the hysterical media.
I would whether Mike can arrange a debate with Peter and maybe Konstantin Kisin.
At last. Peter is someone who gets it but something you won't here on the MSM
@Soul of a robot You are absolutely correct. Sometimes though you just have to separate the wheat from the chaff. It's about making the right decisions I suppose and informed decisions. Maybe I should go back to listening to the BBC, CNN, ABC channels instead??
I hear that Boris Johnson, Joe Biden and Justine Trudeau are doing well and looking out for the people lately
3:51 - '. . . once the elite decide on a particular policy, all those who are expert in that matter in the civil, foreign, military and intelligence services are marginalised BUT all those who sing the government tune are promoted and listened to - a universal feature of governments everywhere' - happened just recently I seem to remember - LOCKDOWN MASKS SOCIAL DISTANCING ETC ETC
Yep. Brexit in a nutshell
intereting how one emergency interchanged into another in a very smooth and troublefree exchange. hmm, very interesting..
The only voice of reason in this whole debacle.
There's a few actually. But it seems none of them run countries.
Someone finally spoke some semblance of truth.
Peter was absolutely sure Putin wasnt going to invade, its hard taking his perspective without a grain of salt on this subject now.
Sounds like he's a bit of a hack, no?
Exactly
Opinions are like.Well you know. Reasons why its happening dont matter,,it is,,what we need now are solutions
No-one thought he would because we assumed Russia has been entirely cowed by Western military dominance since the end of the Cold War. But never underestimate the actions of an ex KGB autocrat who hasn't gotten over Russia's humiliating loss of its Empire
Do you think Hitchens keeps talking even when the camera's off?
LOL I think it's a pre-recording and Mike just speaks in the gaps!
No!
Of course I was terribly terribly drunk....
I don’t “think”🧐
I really hope he does and records it all for future generations to learn from
I totally agree with Peter.
Reminds me of how the EU egged on Slovenia to break away from old Yugoslavia and thus triggering that bloody civil war.
The EU is the continuation of Germany by other means. Germany has always looked East.
@@susannamarker2582 Indeed.
Beaurocracy and banking, rather than bombs and bullets; but the end is the same.
Hitchens is wise and measured. He should be listened to intently by all.
Rational thinking people know who's to blame for this madness, just like they didn't believe msm over covid .
Ah yes, right, it's not Putin's fault that he's invading a sovereign country, it's the West's. Holy sh*t, I shudder to think what depths of self-loathing and bitterness have driven you to that conclusion. Also, whenever I hear someone use the phrase "msm" I know I'm dealing with a paranoid nutter sitting in his mom's basement frantically wondering why his QAnon heroes haven't yet taken control. So tell me this: which media is it that you believe? Please be as specific as possible. And one last question for you to chicken out of answering: the "msm", and Biden, and even Boris Johnson, said that Putin would invade Ukraine. Putin and Lavrov and Russia Today and the "alternative media" sneered at the idea and said there would be no invasion. Who was right and who was wrong? Let's see you demonstrate your "rationality" by answering that very, very simple question.
@@garyengland9549 I'm not sure which is more pathetic, the passive-aggressive little attempt to slither out of answering the question or your infant's grasp of grammar. Either way, you seem scared of the point I'm making. Why does it frighten you so much? Here it is again, in case you ever grow a pair and decide to answer it. Who was right - Putin and Lavrov and RT, who said there would be no invasion, or Biden and Johnson and the BBC, who said there would be? It's strange that such a simple question would have you quaking in your boots. Face your fears and answer it. You'll feel more of a man when you do.
Pet Hitchens. Start a damned UA-cam channel and you’d have all the time you need to say what you want to your own audience. Build it and they will come.
Don’t think that he would get air time on RT at the moment. Peter is a communist and always has been so no surprise where his loyalties lie.
M JS He was a bolshevik in his younger days. He has explained that process and how he is no longer a bolshevik.
@@Snoozzzzzze very poor trolling
Finally some balance & context. Peter Hitchens has some real insight here.
Imagine having liz Truss involved in this mess,l!
Doesn't bear thinking about.
Or Kamala Harriss!
All that help in moneys and arms has done Ukraine very little good by the looks of it. Perhaps staying out of their affairs would have been a more appropriate course of action. Now we should all get behind the latest negotiation effort to seize the carnage.
... cease the ...
How many countries has America invaded ? !
Wish there was another journalist to keep Mr Hitchens company. When he is gone it will be the end of an era. Perhaps courage is toxic masculinity today..
It is good to hear a sensible informed opinion rather than all the dross on other "media" outlets, where they obviously have not done their research, if any, properly
Hitchens - ever the sound and well reasoned; thank you good Sir! 🙏
Oh my this guy is great. And brave. He speaks closer to objectivity.
There's talk of it being a war crime...... I've not seen Tony Blair for a while.
Don't know why, but I always agree with everything I hear Peter H saying.
It's not a war. Its a fight between Russia and Ukraine.
Peter Hitchens: "If I see a child annoying a wasp and the wasp stings the child and I say to the child "Well, that was your own stupid fault", am I defending the wasp? No, I'm attacking the stupidity of the child."
A version of 'she was asking for it'
Except we're not talking about an insect that can't understand human language. If Putin and his cronies are annoyed by something, it's their problem to fix. Seek counseling, etc.
Peter Hitchens always rational.
Well done Peter Hitchins.
He is right 👍
Peter Hitchens. A man who knows what he's talking about, certainly on Russia. He was a correspondent there, and lived there, for many years. I hope people will listen to him.
They won't. The hysterical dopamine addicts who inhabit social media won't allow it.
Nikita Krusthew played high in 1962. But he won. The US removed the rockets from Turkey.
And he made a epic statement:
"We must avoid the big war, because in this war, de living will envy the dead!"
Always worth listening to, thank you Peter
The first casualty of war is the truth.
WELL SAID MR HITCHINS.
Good show - Peter is spot on once again.
Peter always has the right story, thank you Peter,
Ukrain surrender. We don't world war 3
Yes, Ukraine has been used by US and UK
Great balanced view has always Peter and many historic facts the msm chose to ignore .
Geez, facts and all that stuff , all these facts are going to make people angry
Peter is like a breath of fresh air.
Love Peter Hitchens, adored Christopher Hitchens 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
"Yeah, but can you grow concrete Peter?"
He's absolutely on the money. Make no mistakes former USSR no angels but history shows wherever America have gone its ended in disaster.
Our hearts are with everyone and every single innocent who suffer
Love that Peter discusses nuances and didn’t entertain the lazy “blame it on incompetence” notion. Having said that I just saw America’s special envoy Kamala Harris explaining to the American public how Russia is a big country and Ukraine is a little one.
Spot on peter totally correct in your analysis
Follow the money.
Thanks again you two
The most fascinating thing about this is Mike Graham's endless cup of coffee
It got mildly irritating after the 3527th sip.
This is very good
I preferred his brother...but he's talking sense on this subject.
How many drinks from the 2 mugs can Mike get through? Or is it a nervous action?
He’s practicing for when he becomes the Beaker of the House of Commons
It's because he's completely uninformed on this situation. His comments about us doing nothing in response clearly show he knows absolutely nothing about NATO.
Excellent discussion/over view. Dead on the money.
It surely amazes me as well, Sir! Thank you!
Spot on, Peter!
Thank you.
I love this man
When is Hitchens emigrating to Russia
Absolutely Peter, Try telling your average Jo on the street that.... So many talk straight from their heart, with no reality on what's been going on to get to this.
Perfect
I still remember these two tearing chunks out of each at the start of the COVID19 hysteria!
Instead of talking to both sides the West's answer is to pump more weapons into the arena....thats a good way to save lives.
Isn't awful not having access to truth from our national MSM?
AS a brit who has lived in China and been to Xinjiang I can assure Mr Hitchens the Uyghur people are doing very well, with an increased population, lower unemployment and a better standard of living than they used to have. I wish people would go there before repeating the myths spread by Adrian Zenz and the NED
MG cant wait to grow some concrete and rebuild Ukraine pronto!
Good Grief! He's agreeing with Piers Corbyn.
Propaganda. Regarding Piers Corbyn & Comrade Jeremy agree or not with some of their views they do come out with some sensible facts . Since when has this country become unrecognisable. Really enjoyable video . Dirty money blame the Russians but do not mention China or Qatar & a few other's hypocrisy is sickening.
@@patriciaoreilly8907 Piers Corbyn argues that the west has de-neutralized the Ukraine by pressurizuing it to join Nato thus Hitchens is agreeing with him. Piers has stated, "The crisis in Ukraine stems from the US led policy of NATO expansion to the Russian borders of 2008 and strengthened by coup events in Ukraine 22.2.14 (exactly 8 years before this Russian action). "
Then so am I. What of it ? I don't form my opinion just because it aligns with a herd's.
Mr Hitchens, who decries any Western political 'expansion' into countries that he considers akin to Russia's property, is presumably much quieter regarding Russia's direct interference in the election of Donald Trump, which let us not forget, nearly brought American democracy down, as well as the potential involvement of Russia in the Brexit referendum. Care to comment, Peter?
For the first time in my life I think the use of nuclear weapons is a possibility. Because logic has been suspended by Russian invasion.
As for Western values, the West has dual system: Western values at home benefiting even non-Westerners, and Western interests at any cost abroad. When you understand this, you understand a significant part of rest of the world attitude towards the West.
That said, selfrightousness, prejudice and ignorance and out of context cultrural interpretations hinder better relations between East and West. They're both guilty of that prejudice.
I would of loved to hear Christopher hitchens veiw on this.
How can Hitchens hold simultaneously the views that he never thought Putin would be stupid enough to start war; and that it was inevitable given what he formulates as NATO aggression? He makes as usual no sense.
Yes -Hitchens was there in 91 when it fell for a few months and mentions it every other interview last 30 years....half legend half utter clown out his depth.
Great sence....
Hitchens said last week that Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine, even when they had over 100,000 troops amassed on the border and Putin said he was going to invade. He was right about lockdowns, but his opinion on this issue is worthless.
He is a journalist not a god!
The " West " absolutely created the situation where Putin was baited & then allowed to invade. However Putin didn't HAVE to. No one made Putin pull the trigger. Moaning about it now won't help the Ukrainian people. War is tragic, losing a war is catastrophe.
Good advice. And its hard to diagree with this balanced opinion. Although China is not the evil country he depicts.
Mike Graham is giving Peter Hitchens a fair say, after all the propoganda we've been hearing. Putin has made a mistake though, I don't know how he can find a way out of this situation.
Not really a mistake, the US is behind this. UK/US outrage over this is pretty laughable, for the past 20 years how many Illegal wars have they took part in ?
Victory will be his way out. It's inevitable.
@IonCrox keep dreaming!
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