Thank you a ton for teaching us all the basics. Even as I am not a "bushcrafter" I see this as knowledge everyone should know, as everyone can get into an emergency situation.
Robert I'm 62 years old and Dave has taught me a whole lot of things I wish I knew 30 years ago. Being a Bobcat from OU I miss the southern woods also.Thanks Dave. this fire series is one of the best you have done other than the trapping series. I will never trap but I know how to if i want to.I feel you have enough product out there now you need to do a product review out in the field. I have seen too many field tests of your stuff and I just shake my head at the stupidity of these people when they do it because they don't have the knowledge to do the testing. Again Dave thank you for the info. God bless
As always Dave, great information. I am just at the beginning of my journey with bushcraft and decided to start the learning with fire. I had never even thought of your method in this video but it will be placed in my knowledge bed!
Safe trip, Dave. Hope you and Iris have a great time. Sometimes you can use the unburned remnants from the previous fire, the little blackened chunks that did not completely burn down to ashes, and crush them up and start them with a flint and steel or magnifying glass. I wouldn't rely on it, but I've seen it done. I like that you are redoing some of your previous material in series form with this new higher production value. Not only will it bring new viewers to your channel for the HD quality video production, but it will make things very easy to find using keyword search. Though you have always had your videos in searchable playlists, I see a ton of comments with questions about topics of videos that you have already done. Semper Fi
Absolutely digging this series on fire Dave. The undone char made me think of a survivorman episode where Les made some char from the cloth pulled off a wrecked airplane. The char was partially undone but when he used it the charred part burnt up to the undone part which burst into flame. It looked like it was an unexpected result. I wonder, guess I'll have to experiment with this some.
Dave, I was trying the exact thing u did in this video (stiking flint and steel onto char in a tulip poplar bird nest) to demonstrate to a friend how flint and steel work. But the sparks bypassed the char and ignited the tulip poplar bark (it immediately burst into flames). So with dumb luck and dry enough bark the sparks from flint and steel will ignite other material than char.
Haha "almost like a set of brass knuckles, probably a secondary use for this bad boy", that cracked me up, very informative and helpful thanks a lot. :)
Great job on the primitive fire series. I really enjoy it. I live in Central Alaska and skills like this could come in very handy. I've been watching as many of your vids as I can find time. Now I just need to get some things together and make a fire steel and some char.
Nice. I have never made char....but your vids do a solid job of showing how to do it. I'm Gonna def be making some and doing a video soon i hope. Thanks Dave.
This is right up my alley, I was wondering how ancient cultures might have created charred tinder. I would assume this works with the other materials you mentioned in a previous video (horse's hoof fungus, punk wood, and cattails)? To reduce the cooling time by making it easier to clear the hole from the coals, I thought a deeper hole would possibly help. What would be the disadvantages of a slightly deeper hole, besides maybe a longer heating time, would it work? Also, do you have any tips to speed up the cooling process that you might have forgotten to mention in the video? Great video, keep em coming.
Seems like this method may be a great overnight method? Build a small coal bed, even secondary to your primary fire, place your cloth in its ditch and let it char overnight. Cooled by morning with a great chance of being fully charred and ready to take along as a quick fire source.
Great video and series. Dave, I have been practicing using flint and steel. What is the best way to sharpen your flint once the edge gets beat up? Thanks again for all the great videos!
hay dave i was wondering how many acres your property is. also that black stuff that collects on the inside of my container when i make char is hard to get out so i might try this
Dave, maybe a silly question. With as many classes and students that go through the school and as many fires that you have made using tulip as tinder and bow drill sets, is the availability of material getting thinned out? I'm sure the trees are alive and well, just asking about the dead fall.
Dont know if ive heard of or seen it done, using bamboo to create char cloth. It should work, i burned and charred my rice pretty good in the everglades. Using live green bamboo make a small container, maybe altoids tin size, and plug the ends... What ya think?
excellent video as always Dave! but i have to ask, if the rock is harder than the steel, and throws hot pieces off of it...then why does the rock ware away first? I always thought the steel caused the rock to break away in tiny friction heated pieces, not the other way round. promise I'm not trolling I really do want to know.
The rock probably wears away because of the way it is bonded to itself, as he said its nappable so it will break off from itself, i dunno just a thought I had, probably wrong but yea :)
great video. to reiterate the discussion about the ferrocerium, you effectively are making a spark like from a flint and steel, but that 800 degree spark also contains small pieces of magnesium that are lit by the 800 degree iron spark and burn at 3000+ degrees themselves, possibly lighting whatever other pyrophoric metals the rod contains, forming a chain reaction, iron to magnesium to other metals.
It depends on where you are. All flint is a variety of chert which is mineralogically a form of quartz. Most chert originally is associated with carbonate rocks such as limestone. So - if you have limestone outcrops, look for exposed rough surfaces where the more chemically and mechanically resistant chert protrudes as the limestone dissolves away. geology.com/rocks/chert.shtml No outcrops or no chert in your limestone? Then search stream beds in the gravels that are deposited in the high energy channel lags and flood deposits. Chert, quartz & quartzite are very resistant. They may round during the process, but they will tolerate much longer transport distances than limestone.
I've seen you strike the flint on the steel and the cloth in the birds nest, and then another time, strike the steel on the flint with the char cloth on the flint. Is there a correct way, or is it just what ever works for you?
super video. I think you used the term spontaneously combust be mistake. The heat generated by the glancing blow is the missing end of the fire triangle that will light these small particles. Spontaneously combust would mean the particles would ignite without the addition of heat.
I just love yer vids. By chance, do ya have wild hogs in your area? Nice to see um spit cooked. Also maybe.....long distance fire ignition with gasoline and bottlerockets.......would be a hoot! Your friend,Don
Hey Dave, since we're talking about the next fire, I thought I'd ask how you feel about carrying a pack of cigarettes in order to carry an ember from your camp to your next destination. Is that viable?
Daniel Childers This is late, but it could be a viable option. If you just blow the ember rather than puff to keep it going it should last a while. Les Stroud used a full cigar to carry an ember in his first Survivorman 10-days episode. Lasted him his hour or so walk to his next camp location.
I wonder if you could bury a decent sized piece of punk in the same manor. If it worked, you could bury it at night and you would likely have char in the morning.
when u click ur link - ur site is not working. it asks for password and not too register a new member. u are needed by America keep up to good work. I wonted too go to ur store; the site needs to by looked it. and thank for ur videos; Sir !!!
May You and Iris have a safe and enjoyable trip. God Bless.
Thank you a ton for teaching us all the basics. Even as I am not a "bushcrafter" I see this as knowledge everyone should know, as everyone can get into an emergency situation.
So much wisdom in these videos. Thanks Dave your are a national resource.
Thanks for everything u do Mr Dave . God Bless
Dave, don't worry about more upload, you have gave us a lot to study on, this has been great. Thanks again and enjoy yourself.
Robert I'm 62 years old and Dave has taught me a whole lot of things I wish I knew 30 years ago. Being a Bobcat from OU I miss the southern woods also.Thanks Dave. this fire series is one of the best you have done other than the trapping series. I will never trap but I know how to if i want to.I feel you have enough product out there now you need to do a product review out in the field. I have seen too many field tests of your stuff and I just shake my head at the stupidity of these people when they do it because they don't have the knowledge to do the testing. Again Dave thank you for the info. God bless
Interesting multi-functionality idea for the fire steel! A knuckle duster! Great series Dave.
Awesome that Char can be made that way! Thanks as always Dave!
Neat little trick. Thanks for sharing. Hope you have a great trip Dave
As always Dave, great information. I am just at the beginning of my journey with bushcraft and decided to start the learning with fire. I had never even thought of your method in this video but it will be placed in my knowledge bed!
love the canterburys , thank you again for the great teaching. enjoy your time off
All the fire school series was amazing.
Enjoy your trip to Europe,you deserve a good rest Sir.
Warm Regards from Spain.
Have a nice trip dave Thanks for all the knowledge you share
Safe trip, Dave. Hope you and Iris have a great time.
Sometimes you can use the unburned remnants from the previous fire, the little blackened chunks that did not completely burn down to ashes, and crush them up and start them with a flint and steel or magnifying glass. I wouldn't rely on it, but I've seen it done.
I like that you are redoing some of your previous material in series form with this new higher production value. Not only will it bring new viewers to your channel for the HD quality video production, but it will make things very easy to find using keyword search. Though you have always had your videos in searchable playlists, I see a ton of comments with questions about topics of videos that you have already done.
Semper Fi
Good to know another method for creating Char. Thanks Dave.
Have a safe trip to you and Miss Iris. and hope you are able to have some fun while in Holland.
Have a safe & fun trip Dave!
Love learning a new way to make char! Awesome video. Have fun in Holland!
AWESOME SKILL. another tool in the tool box. cannot wait to try this method of making char. thanks so much for the lesson.
Great video Dave..
I've got making char on my to-do list.
Thanks for the video
Absolutely digging this series on fire Dave. The undone char made me think of a survivorman episode where Les made some char from the cloth pulled off a wrecked airplane. The char was partially undone but when he used it the charred part burnt up to the undone part which burst into flame. It looked like it was an unexpected result. I wonder, guess I'll have to experiment with this some.
Great video dave. Another skill to get down thanks brother.
Great video as always, Dave.
Dave, I was trying the exact thing u did in this video (stiking flint and steel onto char in a tulip poplar bird nest) to demonstrate to a friend how flint and steel work. But the sparks bypassed the char and ignited the tulip poplar bark (it immediately burst into flames). So with dumb luck and dry enough bark the sparks from flint and steel will ignite other material than char.
I've really enjoyed this series. Thanks.
Wow amazing I still learn something new from every single video you put out, you are an inspiration
Haha "almost like a set of brass knuckles, probably a secondary use for this bad boy", that cracked me up, very informative and helpful thanks a lot. :)
Best series yet Dave. Thanks for the detailed videos. Now, even an old dog like me should be able to start a fire using primitive methods.
Great job on the primitive fire series. I really enjoy it. I live in Central Alaska and skills like this could come in very handy. I've been watching as many of your vids as I can find time. Now I just need to get some things together and make a fire steel and some char.
Nice. I have never made char....but your vids do a solid job of showing how to do it. I'm Gonna def be making some and doing a video soon i hope. Thanks Dave.
Excellent video! I have been making char cloth like this for a while now...it certainly makes you appreciate having a tin! Haha!
God bless, brother!
This is right up my alley, I was wondering how ancient cultures might have created charred tinder. I would assume this works with the other materials you mentioned in a previous video (horse's hoof fungus, punk wood, and cattails)? To reduce the cooling time by making it easier to clear the hole from the coals, I thought a deeper hole would possibly help. What would be the disadvantages of a slightly deeper hole, besides maybe a longer heating time, would it work? Also, do you have any tips to speed up the cooling process that you might have forgotten to mention in the video? Great video, keep em coming.
Thanks, Dave...
Learned something new!! Thx Dave!!
Seems like this method may be a great overnight method? Build a small coal bed, even secondary to your primary fire, place your cloth in its ditch and let it char overnight. Cooled by morning with a great chance of being fully charred and ready to take along as a quick fire source.
great fire talk dave..
Great video and series. Dave, I have been practicing using flint and steel. What is the best way to sharpen your flint once the edge gets beat up?
Thanks again for all the great videos!
hay dave i was wondering how many acres your property is. also that black stuff that collects on the inside of my container when i make char is hard to get out so i might try this
Good skills Dave!
thank you sir bushromancer!
THE WIZARD OF THE WOODS!
I've had success with a fero rod or magnifying glass to lite the brown stuff. I think you could get it lit with anything but flint & steel.
I keep a flint and steel in my caveman kit but i keep a dead bic lighter in my modern fire kit it works great igniting char.
a tip that i leaned when i was looking for a rock that worked well was if its idk glittery i guess is a good word to describe it with will work well
How about using the charcoal that's always left when the fire goes out. You could use that for ignition too, no?
Dave, maybe a silly question. With as many classes and students that go through the school and as many fires that you have made using tulip as tinder and bow drill sets, is the availability of material getting thinned out? I'm sure the trees are alive and well, just asking about the dead fall.
I was thinking the same thing. lol..
Safe travels Dave
Dont know if ive heard of or seen it done, using bamboo to create char cloth. It should work, i burned and charred my rice pretty good in the everglades.
Using live green bamboo make a small container, maybe altoids tin size, and plug the ends...
What ya think?
I wondering if that would ever work .. just submerging cloth under charcoal.... great vid... thanks for the knowledge once again
Informative as always, thanks.
excellent video as always Dave! but i have to ask, if the rock is harder than the steel, and throws hot pieces off of it...then why does the rock ware away first? I always thought the steel caused the rock to break away in tiny friction heated pieces, not the other way round. promise I'm not trolling I really do want to know.
The rock probably wears away because of the way it is bonded to itself, as he said its nappable so it will break off from itself, i dunno just a thought I had, probably wrong but yea :)
great video. to reiterate the discussion about the ferrocerium, you effectively are making a spark like from a flint and steel, but that 800 degree spark also contains small pieces of magnesium that are lit by the 800 degree iron spark and burn at 3000+ degrees themselves, possibly lighting whatever other pyrophoric metals the rod contains, forming a chain reaction, iron to magnesium to other metals.
That's what is so good about having a Mora. You have a knife that will throw great sparks.
Dave where is the best places to find flint? I am struggling to find it.
It depends on where you are. All flint is a variety of chert which is mineralogically a form of quartz. Most chert originally is associated with carbonate rocks such as limestone. So - if you have limestone outcrops, look for exposed rough surfaces where the more chemically and mechanically resistant chert protrudes as the limestone dissolves away. geology.com/rocks/chert.shtml
No outcrops or no chert in your limestone? Then search stream beds in the gravels that are deposited in the high energy channel lags and flood deposits. Chert, quartz & quartzite are very resistant. They may round during the process, but they will tolerate much longer transport distances than limestone.
wow that was an awesome answer. Thank you very much. I appreciate the help.
I've seen you strike the flint on the steel and the cloth in the birds nest, and then another time, strike the steel on the flint with the char cloth on the flint. Is there a correct way, or is it just what ever works for you?
where do you get your shirts?
Terry
I love Dave. "The thing you have to remember is to let these coals cool down, before you grab the coals" Ha!!!
super video. I think you used the term spontaneously combust be mistake. The heat generated by the glancing blow is the missing end of the fire triangle that will light these small particles. Spontaneously combust would mean the particles would ignite without the addition of heat.
do you have a drawing of the arrowhead
I can make one on my cnc milling machine
I recently saw AlfieAesthetics do this :) . Thank you for spreading this technique.
can u over cook charcloth ?
Could burnt fire wood work?
thanks for the video. Gonna try this next saturday:D
I just love yer vids. By chance, do ya have wild hogs in your area? Nice to see um spit cooked. Also maybe.....long distance fire ignition with gasoline and bottlerockets.......would be a hoot! Your friend,Don
Holland as in Netherlands?
Ya know your good when you can make fire in just about 2-3 minutes with just some steel and a rock.
Tier 1 of woodscraft
Two pieces of steel struck together will throw sparks. Carry two strikers.
Thanks :)
Outstanding
The rock is hard but brittle compared to steel. Less toughness.
Hey Dave, since we're talking about the next fire, I thought I'd ask how you feel about carrying a pack of cigarettes in order to carry an ember from your camp to your next destination. Is that viable?
figure what? 7-8 minutes per cig? that'll get expensive quick....
Well, I was more speaking about an emergency situation, not an everyday fire carry method.
Cheap cigar.
Daniel Childers This is late, but it could be a viable option. If you just blow the ember rather than puff to keep it going it should last a while. Les Stroud used a full cigar to carry an ember in his first Survivorman 10-days episode. Lasted him his hour or so walk to his next camp location.
very nice
I wonder if you could bury a decent sized piece of punk in the same manor. If it worked, you could bury it at night and you would likely have char in the morning.
hey man you have a nice vacation you look like you need it.
excellent video
Have a safe trip. God's speed.
when u click ur link - ur site is not working. it asks for password and not too register a new member. u are needed by America keep up to good work. I wonted too go to ur store; the site needs to by looked it. and thank for ur videos; Sir !!!
Lol "secondary use"
just incase you want to fight some wolves
That arrowhead shaped doodad should probably be square.
flint hard to fine where I live but quartz all over
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