Making a Sami nuorssjo, the best long log fire
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2024
- The Sami nuorssjo was one of the fires used when the Sami people were following and looking after their reindeer. They traveled light and stopped where the reindeer stopped and slept there and the next morning they moved on. It's not a fire you do every day it was used when you were on the move.
It's probably the best fire to sleep beside if you don´t have a sleeping bag as it will keep you warm even in the middle of the winter. Make the fire close to were you cut down your logs because you don´t want to move the heavy logs to much. In the video I moved the logs about 10 meters.
It´s made from a dead, standing pine tree without any bark on. The trunk turns greyish in colour over time and are always dry inside. If you intend to sleep beside it the logs should be at least 25 cm thick for it to last all night.
The distances between the logs regulates how intense the fire is burning. A wider gap between the logs means a less intense fire. The distances should be made from green pine as it burns very poorly. You need to change them now and then and when you do don´t place them were the previous ones have been.
This is a slow burning fire were the ideal flames should´t be more than 5 cm. But in reality the fire will burn more or less during a night. If you want to slow down the combustion even more for a while you can adjust it so there are no flames, only glowing logs.
You can light it with birch bark strips and the wood chip you chopped off when you made the two flat surfaces, but the easiest way is to use fatwood. You can also have a smaller fire beside and use it to light your nuorssjo with.
There were no wind and weather was great so I diden´t put any energy in to making a shelter. This night the temperature was down to 0 degrees Celsius but I have used it in 11 degrees below zero with no problem.
This fire took me about 3 hours to make. It’s no that long considering what you gain during the night. Gathering fuel for a regular fire, that will last through the night, will take some time and effort and you'll have too maintain that fire much more during the night.
Hope you enjoy
As growing up in Finland, being scout master and explorer, I only built this kind of fire in winter time, yes most of time I used “laavu” canvas with it. Later in military as Sissi “Ranger” we never built this kind of fire hardly any fire because we were trained to be stealth behind an enemy line. I slept under spruce in snow no heat, in snow caverns,etc. So, let’s stop bickering “how I would build shelter and fire”, this gentleman did a beautiful job demonstrating this fire buildup.
Hear hear.
Hear Hear.
Hear mfin hear.
Mmhmm
Or could not waste your time and just burn the logs!
Jeeze, some of these comments!
"Like, you're lost in the woods, build a fire, why so complicated?!? Am I missing something???"
Doh! Yes, you are missing something!
You're missing that this isn't a survivalist video, but a demonstration of a type of fire the Sami people would make when on a reindeer hunt. Nobody's gonna die, there's other people to help build it, they're enjoying themselves, maybe make this cool long log fire out of the birch logs and the resinous pine that they are surrounded by near the arctic circle, that will give off a lower more controlled heat through the night than you get from a simple fire. It's elegant, and the fruit of thousands of years of Sami ingenuity. So have fun with space blankets, etc., if survival is your thing. I'd trade that for one of these fires and some reindeer steaks anytime :-)
Americans have too much time on their hands, they end up inventing bogey men out to get them
Though at 17:10, I most certainly would NOT stand over the burning logs like that....😅
I see this kind of stuff all the time. Too many 20 something's that think they know it all. They move from a major city from any country to another country and compare the differences. They've never been to the rural areas of their own country and therefore do not know so much about their own country. UA-cam makes experts out of everyone. You can learn a lot but you can also learn a lot that's wrong. Here, you're learning how to create a body length low profile fire that will burn through the night and not be blown out by blustery winds. If you can't understand that... you're a moron.
Yeah no I'll stick to the traditional pyramid fire😂
In fact, this setup is even recommended in a survival scenario. The reason being that in a survival situation, you need to manage and save as much effort as possible. You also need to use your gear as little as possible to avoid failuers, as much as you can. This Setup requires 4 main cuts instead of cutting tons of wood.
I've been on the road with my clothes on, in all kinda weather, in temperatures ranging from 30C to minus 30C. Sleep is extremely important especially if you are having a hard time finding food (in winter for example), you need every single minute of rest you can get so yeh being warm from 9pm to 4am is absolutely primordial. Not even talking about conventional fires who will require extra digging and or snow protection etc which translates to more work and the fact conventional fires will need restocking every 1 to 2hrs unless you micro manage it with a heat retaining wall or self restocking mechanism but thats also more work..
Take it from someone who has been freezing his balls multiple times, an extra 30 mins of work in exchange for 5~hrs of undisturbed sleep is a blessing tbh.
Thanks for showing us the Sami Nuorssjo ❤
He may have been warm but I doubt he slept well on the bed of spruce
In Australia this video would just be called "How to find spiders in the bush"
So I looked up the Sami fire and you actually don’t need a shelter if it isn’t going to rain. It’s a fire that can burn for 6 hours with little maintenance that you can sleep next to. That’s the point of the design, it won’t burn out and you can sleep next to it for 6 hours. It keeps your entire bodies length warm, that’s why he measured the cut of the log with his arm span.
How would it keep you from getting soaked in a pouring shower ? Sorry , not buying that it it's a fire that's good without a shelter .
@@adrianojames8388 Uh, did you just read the first half of his first sentence? He said "... if it isn’t going to rain." in the last part.
The idea of this fire is it's a controlled fire, the length of your body, and it will burn all night without flaring up and setting your bed on fire and keep you warm if you do not have a shelter.
Build a lean-to in front of it and even in a rain it would keep burning because the burning is taking place inside the logs.
Dude watched a guy do it on camera and then was like "nah, Google knows more"
Thanks for the info.Interesting.
I like that he started cutting the log with the hand pruning saw and just after he got started they cut away and came back and it was almost done but the cut was wide as a chainsaw blade and all of a sudden he finished with the pruning saw
Well, you didn't say he was using a chain saw, but made some points indicating it.
My take on your points:
The gap opened since the logs fell apart
The shavings on the ground do not look like chainsaw ones
On 3:34 the surface looks like a manual cut (right log, right border)
He changed to the pruning saw since he could angle the grip to avoid cutting into the ground (see how it is tilted)
Very elegant and historical. Thank you! I hate getting up cold several times in the night to restoke a fire, and this solves that problem.
It never ceases to amaze me; so many "experts" who show up in the comments section of almost any type of video, to impart their tremendous wisdom upon us.
The internet is a place for discussion. People are allowed to be wrong. You'll survive.
This is really marvelous. Sure, anybody can build a campfire. But fall asleep next to a blazing campfire at 10pm, wake up at 1am freezing your bahoobees off. This is like central heating!
just what ive been looking for, an extremely fuel efficient fire.. saves firewood for atleast 4 days whilst your building it!
Jajajaja true
Brilliant 🤣
I dunno bout all this.
Nice! I’ve done it with 3 logs. 2 on bottom one on top. A bit easier-no wedges needed, burns just as long. Lean-to tarp or shelter helps in colder weather.
Thanks 😊 I've done that fire too. It’s commonly called nying in Sweden. The thing is if you try to sleep beside that fire the base log will sheild off all the radiant heat making in very inefficient. With the nuorssjo you’ll get a lot of heat😊🔥
Maybe the best long log fire out there, but it's sure as hell a lot of work.
Scandinavio style - plenty time and plenty timber
It keeps you warm for all the time making it and sleeping next to it.
Double your pleasure double your fun
He's able to sleep in the cold with no blanket. That takes a lot of work to pull off...
It's 100% not the best- ua-cam.com/video/WbqS_j6eKL8/v-deo.html
He made it a rocket science
13+ hours! Nice! As far as time spent building it, there's a LOT of downtime when you're out camping...what else do you have to do?! In the morning, just add more wood to that coal bed. If u head out for the day, you bury it in soil. When u come back, uncover, add more wood, enjoy. I definitely prefer a long fire to a round one. Nice work!
Thanks😊
This type of a fire is known both by Finns and the Sami people.
It's called rakotuli or rakovalkea in Finnish.
The type of wood used to make a rakoltuli is called kelo in Finnish.
Good quality kelo can be found in old growth pine tree forests, but not on open fjells nor spruce tree woodlands.
An important thing to keep in mind is,
that nowadays cutting down a kelo for a fire
is a violation against whoever owns that forest.
So, unless you have a wood lot of your own and kelo in that wood lot,
do not make a kelo-fire.
Another thing to be aware of is
that in Finland making a fire on somebody else's property
is not an everybody's right.
What an excellent demonstration, thanks.
Thank you😊
@@mattiasnorberg yes efficient using the old school measuring system as well ;)
New sub here .That hand saw is amazing I guess you get what you pay for, wood worker here hello from down under.
This is the kind of fire I would like in my home, instead of looking at my dull boring gas fire.
Looks like a fun and educational family camping project!
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gonna sit back in camping chair, and watch my 16 grandchildren swinging hatchets, what could go wrong?
@@markjgaletti57 😳😆
Tack Mattias, bra vid som alltid!
Tack så mycket😊
I like how you started by giving it a big warm hug , almost made me a little misty-eyed
LOL!
I hope I get to try this someday! Thanks for the great... quiet, video! lovely
As I watched this, I had visions of that burning log rolling through the forest with me chasing after it.
LOL!!
That’s what the wedges and lean to log was for. Gravity will press the log down evenly as it burns, and the perpendicular log will prevent it from rolling. The spruce spacers also help prevent rolling
13 hours?! That's really good! Though you did have to work on it a few times duringvthe night....
Excellent as always regards Mick
Thanks Mick😊
They are great. But for me, the three log fire is the way to go. If I was to go with a two log fire, I would follow this mans example. Absolutely outstanding.
The 3 log fire does not spread heat radiation to the sides as much as this one. The heat radiation from it spreads more upwards instead of sideways. When it is -40f (-40c) it makes a BIG difference which way the heat radiation goes.
Build it upside down with one log at the bottom then! :-D
But seriously, would this be possible with enough stones to aid?
Try it out. Film it. Then link the video here. I wanna know.
Better live near a forest!
This is so cool.
Well, i reckon it's rather hot. But very groovy.
Excellent fire! Enjoyable video!
Thank you for sharing!!
👍😊🔥
It's the only fire that keeps you warm the whole night without even needing to be lit up 😅
Brilliant, thanks for sharing 👍🇮🇪
Thanks a lot😊
This is the most theatrical and dramatic fire I've ever witnessed being built 🎉
But you will be cozy n_n
Dam that wood looks so good and that forest just wow nice video
Nice! The build process warms you up for three days, then you get to rest by the fire for a couple hours!
Men så jäkla magiskt, underbart home, jag är med på den turen i mitt hjärta och själ 🔥💚👊
Tackar för det my man😊 Ja du skulle varit med🔥
Nice thanks for sharing!
Fantastic video mate.Heard all about this kind of fire but never seen it done.
Thank you.
Thanks mate😊 Glad you liked it👍
Looks like a good way to start a forest fire...👌
Beautiful skills
Thanks a lot 😊
I am also a fan of the Nying (as I know this fire as).
But my favourite is the Sibiran Log Fire (as made famous by Survival Russia).
It has a few more adjustments throughout the night, but it requires a lot less setup, and is really good at throwing heat in 1 direction.
absolutely incredible, i loved this!😁
Most of the video i was thinking this is way too much work but seeing the result i know it is worthwhile. Great job
Thanks😊
Veldig kult! Aldri sett noe sånt før, selv om det ligner litt på en nying (to stokker på bunn, en på toppen i et lignende oppsett)
I like this idea and I know it would be twice the work but two would be nice, having one on each side. It’s a cool idea
The extra-long stabilizing log and wedge retainer is a great innovation. Never seen that one before.
This is by far the best camp fire I’ve ever seen! Great job worth the work
Thanks a lot👍🔥
Excellent presentation Mr. Norberg. Greetings from Denmark.
Thank you👍😊
That is so good, and so much better than others I have seen, very useful that it gets hotter during the coldest part of the night. If you had a lean to tarp with foil inside like a survival blanket you could be warm in winter with that system.
Can it survive the rain, as it has a roof (the top part of the log) ?
Thanks😊 Haven't tried it when it’s raining.
Hade gått snabbare om du gått hem och lagt dig.Annars coolt!
Mattias, bra gjort, ibland så prövar jag att lägga granriset åt "samma" håll, bra video!
Tack så mycket👍
Thanks!
Wonder if a reflector on the other side of the sleeping are would help even out the heat
takes time to build but an excellent low maintenance fire once its going. 👍🍻
Where do you put your kettle?
what a crazy campfire...
Really practical to spend half the day setting it up
This looks like a good reason to take a drawknife(thanks,i just couldn't think of its name) with you to shave off the top of the logs quickly. It'd also help make some shavings for fire lighting, and you could use it to cut things like small branches if you wanted to make a shelter.
The word you are looking for is drawknife.😊
Great ! Thank You !
Thanks👍
You made quick work with that saw. I assume quality of the saw matters and im guessing they arent the $20 ones on amazon. What do all you experienced woodsmen recommend for a good folding saw?
That's a Silkie Big Boy. I have the same saw, though mine is much duller.
Important that the saw has long pointed sawing teeth specially made for cutting raw wood.
@@adnelvstad8656 lol. Noted
Thank you!
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Fantastic, this would be great for a super shelter, lessen need to keep running out to restoke
Hello from Canada 🇨🇦 Interesting method, thank you for sharing. Now being of limited mobility, I would probably use a power tool to cut wood. I can only imagine traditionally, family groups must have had each their task, with 1 person in charge of this fire?
Thank you and hello Canada😊👍
Definitely gonna try this the next time I am out in the sticks...A lot of effort but well worth it....
where is the netflix in this setup? also, how do you turn off the light?
thats cool. i only seen that when lighting has struck a power pole.
Sami im gonna jami.
What a piece of wood. The rings were soo tight.
Great video! Two questions: How much time did the preparation take (minus the recording set up time)?
If available in one's location, would stones be a safe and efficient substitute for the green pine polls used to keep the logs separated? I've become a subscriber.
Thanks😊 It took around 3 hour to make. You need to adjust the distance between the logs as the fire burns, so then you need different sizes of stones. And there will be bump were the stones are so you need to move the stones to burn the bumps away.
@@mattiasnorberg Thank you for your prompt answer. So, in your experience, you have found it easier to simply replace the green pine separators?
@@tjmul3381 The green wood distances are easy to replace and to make, so thats what I prefer.
Stones, particularly sedimentary, often have moisture trapped within that can explode bits of the rock dangerously when placed in a fire. Safer to use green wood.
Good to know different methods
You need a lot of experience to determine if the logs you're using are actually dry enough. I tried this two times, my logs weren't as dry as I thought. It took two hours or more of constant feeding to properly get the fire going, the first time I actually didn't want to spend the night and had to extinguish it when it finally burnt as intended, that was too bad.
Second time it started off well but went out after three hours.
Your wood often is more damp than you thought it was.
But the log used here looks very dry indeed. Good instructional video!
Next time be sure to use only approved “video read” logs.
Actually you can just look and feel the logs and know. It's not a special gift to know if wood is dry.
@@user-hs4ih8zp7e in colder climates wood gets wet on the surface when it gets colder, e.g. in the evening when I tend to build my fires. So this changes perception of how the wood feels a great deal. A perfectly on the inside dried log can be moist to the touch then.
Second thing is: we're talking logs here. Dead twigs or branches I can snap and see and feel how they break. But a log that's been lying around obviously not. And a log night be dried on the exterior but still have moisture on the inside.
For me that's difficult to determine and not as easily done as with smaller pieces of wood you can judge by their outside.
That's what I meant with it takes lots of experience - from my experience at least. ;-)
Yeah I was scratching my head trying to figure out how and why a kind of fire like this would be built, and it only makes sense as kitchen or holiday fires. No way you gon go out and find logs ready for this, and as a survival fire it's way too big and time intensive. Reminds me of Christmas Yule fires. Pretty nice if you got time to prepare the wood I guess, dry them during summer and burn them in winter.
@@misteral9045 you have no clue what you're talking about.
Nice meditation watching fun with axes and knives in the wood.
I’m wondering if this has a few practical situations for its application; what if it’s raining or windy; what if their are no perfect straight timbers or tarry species.
Surely you end like toast; brown oneside frozen the other
???
Then you have to adapt to the situation. There are many other ways you can sleep outside without a sleeping bag, this is just one.
marvellous!!
Good effort m8
Thanks😊
What kind of pants are these? They look very comfortable.
Can see how this will help on very long nights out in the wild. Lots of work to set up on your own though.
Thank you for sharing this @mattiasnorberg , good to know . Always good to learn 👍🏾
Thanks👍😊
Love it
Thanks for the video. Other commenters mention a three log fire would be less labor intensive. Seems reasonable. Now, to stay warm on both sides, how about making two three log fires parallel to each other and sleep between them? Spacing would be key for safety of course.
What’s a three log fire?
Two logs on the bottom, one on top, light a fire between those with some spacers. No need to flatten anything or hollow it out.
You just need to secure the two bottom logs from rolling away with some stones or fresh wood stakes. And better built this downhill from your sleeping site, just in case. And don't use rocks from rivers or streams, they might explode. That's all, totally easy. ;-)
If you built two, 3 log fires and slept between, you would freeze due to the resulting chimney effect drawing cold aif in right over you, and all heat would be lost upwards.
It's a UA-cam video of a guy building a fire....we all clicked on it.
Fantastiskt kul kanal du har!!
Tack så mycket😊
Think of the shelter you could have built, getting up to stoke the fire every three hours seems great to me
По русски такой костёр называется "нодья", я с таким много раз ночевал в лесу и могу с уверенностью сказать, что костёр очень хорош, и не даст вам замёрзнуть, когда одна сторона тела отогревается от костра, вторая охлаждается, потом поворачиваешься и теперь другая сторона отогревается. Этот костёр длительного горения и холодными ночами в лесу он незаменим 👍👍
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Тебя пиндос лайкнул, шарит по русски, зараза)
Кстати, очень интересная фишка с длинной палкой, чтобы бревно не перевернулось на спящего ночью.
Nice technique
Not what I expected, but darn interesting
Very fun, very cool video! It looks like a lot of work, but it was totally worth it. Very beautiful and long lasting fire. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks a lot👍😊
Really like the idea. Outstanding fire🙏🏿🇺🇸
Thank you👍
It is nice to have a long fire but man thats a set up. Nice job though.
Very nice! what kind of pants do you have? looks like wool
Yes it's wool. Swedish army model 1958😊
Yeah I can see how that would be a satisfying fire to sit beside while eating a bacon and egg sandwich drinking coffee and enjoying the sounds
Very ( cool ?) fire, I think I will do this some time just for fun. Thank you.
Thanks😊
OMG! You sure did draw this video out didn't ya?
This reminds me of a saying I heard many moons ago. “ Red man build small fire and keep warm. White man build big fire and keep warm hauling wood”.
Indian make small fire, get close. White man make big fire, stay far away!
Oh here we go we with the white man is dumb thing.
I'm pretty sure the self feeding fire was invented in Scandinavia so ...just stfu
wouldn't it be easier to hammer some posts to hold one log on top of another?
This is the kind of fire the timberfloaters used. Good for drying clothes while still on😊 with a broader axe and a real saw it is ready in 10 min.
Works even better in the winter in a thick layer of snow, dig down to the ground and the heat is going to make a hollow and reflect from the snow.
Just a quick edit you might want to do in the desciption: I think 'were' should be 'where' near the end of that first Paragraph. Great Video- I'd never considered fires like this :D
Thanks👍
very good rakovalkea
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Добрый день друг. Отличная нодья, но есть вопрос. Зачем забивать подвес если нет упора под него?
Kan man inte ta några stenar i jämn storlek som mellanlägg istället för färskt trä så borde det hålla över natten utan byte? Eller blir de för sköra av värmen? Grym video förresten :)
Tack😊 Då måste du ha flera stenar i olika tjocklek eftersom mellanrummet mellan stockarna reglerar hur intensivt det brinner och det förändras under tiden. Dessutom brinner det inte så bra där stenarna ligger så där bildas en bula, som måste brännas bort, vilket innebär att du måste flytta stenarna då och då.
I usually make a fire on each side if no shelter and sleeping back.
Är det verkligen den bästa? Har ni hört talas om den sibiriska stockelden? (Siberian log fire) Känns som en sådan är bättre i alla aspekter, men har själv inte erfarenheten att veta säkert.
Ja enlig mig är den det. Har gjort den sibiriska elden också men den kräver mer stockar och understocken brinner upp fortare och måste bytas ut. Visserligen beror det på storleken på stockarna men jag föredrar nuorssjon.
I don’t agree it’s ridiculous. I do agree, however, that with a little effort, a stick wall could be behind you to preserve some of the heat, so your back would be a little warmer. It’s a great fire, and Sami have been using that forever. Thanks
Thanks mate😊 With the I had this night I didn't freeze anything, but ofcourse with a different weather I would have built some kind of shelter👍