I'm a 30 year old male INFJ and this has been one of the most informative INFJ videos on how my personality and cognitive functions play out. This really does feel like a owners manual for myself. Thanks so much for making and putting out this video.
Hi, I am one of those early adopter INFJs 👋🏼 I found your work around 10 years ago and have been a diehard fan ever since. Your content never gets old and was a game changer for me when I found you. I always get something new every time I listen. I’ve heard you talk about this ‘transcendent’ polarity in the functions in many different ways over the years, but I loved how you presented it in this podcast. Thank you, Joel and Antonia, for your ongoing dedication and devotion to this work. ❤️
This episode came in right when I was discussing a lot of these points and dynamics with my SO. It's so relieving that you guys "get it" and can support us through your sharing of knowledge and understanding. I feel better about myself and my ability to love myself wholly better and in turn, helping others better. Eroding self-trust and confidence is so important to recognize when this happening and how. Every single point here and example... exactly right.
A former harmony block for me, that was enabling, was when my ex would always try to get me to drink a glass of wine (to make it ok for him to have a lot of drinks). I was young and wanted to give others the freedom to be themselves (even if it was destructive). After many years, I sobered up and said, “no more.” He would still offer, even though he knew I was quitting. He wasn’t honoring my boundary, but he didn’t have to. It was up to me to honor my own boundary. For a while, I would still hang out with him (me sober and him drunk). One evening, he was in the kitchen cooking and burning everything. I couldn’t tell him that the stove needed turned down or the food needed stirred. He got angry. When he sobered up the next day, I told him I couldn’t sit around and watch him drink himself to death while burning the house down. I wasn’t going to enable him anymore. He’s going to AA now and is starting therapy.
Victor Gulenko's Model G (Beneficiary Ring progress) shows INFJ (IEI) progresses by using Contact Fe, Fi, Se, Si to look more like an mbti-ISFJ (ESI) in public and ESFJ (ESE) in private. Gulenko demonstrates how introverts use primarily the introverted functions in public. But in private they let loose the extroverted functions. That is why as an INTP I can be very talkative like an ENFP (IEE) in private but behave more like an INFJ (IEI) does in public. Joyce Meng uses primarily NiFiSiTi in public. She will not give free reign to her Fe and other extroverted functions unless she is off screen in a more private setting. ENTP is very organized like their ISTJ (LSI) Supervisee in private. And is assertive like their ESTJ (LSE) Benefactor in public.
INFJ man who says no and uses excessive boundaries when using Fe to control their dating experience, because they’re sooooo afraid of getting taken advantage of and looking like a push over will miss the forest from the trees. Needs to use better Fe Se to communicate and flow. Say no just to flex the muscle without engaging in necessary conflict is also garbage behavior. Conflict is apart of life. The word toxic is a way to say “poorly managed FeTi” No ones internal self is that important they need to control someone.. that’s internal weakness. If so, date a robot or an idiot you can control. 58:40 THANK YOU!!!!! this is an important concept.. INFJ door slam is a reaction to their own poorly managed FeTi! No one has asked them to shut any doors. They do it FOR themselves because they cannot manage the concept of correcting their thinking, bridging repair or editing their frame work/perspective in front of you, so they have to level the building, walk away and start over.. leaving you behind like you’re a villain..it’s awfully childish when someone’s at the door willing to work through it with them.
Hi Antonia, I’m looking up the authors that you mentioned to broaden my perspective. I found Joseph Campbell, but I can’t find the other. I’m not sure how to spell it. I think that’s my problem. Cordeleon. Is what it sounds like. Can you give me the correct spelling please?
Antonia's INFJ mother and ESTP father had Socionics Duality. ENTP and mbti-ISFP have duality. ENFP and mbti-ISTP have duality. One can only know this when you understand the mbti introverted sensing cognitive stack error. ----------------------- Observation & Socionics proves ALL mbti-SJs lead with a rational judging function. ALL mbti-SPs lead with irrational sensing. Including the introverts!!! ---------‐-----‐‐------------‐------------- Mbti-ISFJ (ESI) leads with correctly defined FiSe = Relations fortified by Se acts of service. Mbti-ISTJ (LSI) leads with correctly defined TiSe = Logical rules enforced in the Se world ✏️ 📝 Mbti-ISTP (SLI) leads with correctly defined SiTe = Sensory pragmatism 🔨 🛠 🪛 🔧 Mbti-ISFP (SEI) leads with correctly defined SiFe = Sensory mood 💋 💄
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I'm a 30 year old male INFJ and this has been one of the most informative INFJ videos on how my personality and cognitive functions play out. This really does feel like a owners manual for myself. Thanks so much for making and putting out this video.
Thank you Caleb for the kind words. ~ Joel
Hi, I am one of those early adopter INFJs 👋🏼 I found your work around 10 years ago and have been a diehard fan ever since. Your content never gets old and was a game changer for me when I found you. I always get something new every time I listen. I’ve heard you talk about this ‘transcendent’ polarity in the functions in many different ways over the years, but I loved how you presented it in this podcast. Thank you, Joel and Antonia, for your ongoing dedication and devotion to this work. ❤️
Thank you! I'am impressed. Greetings from Germany and have a good time!
This episode came in right when I was discussing a lot of these points and dynamics with my SO. It's so relieving that you guys "get it" and can support us through your sharing of knowledge and understanding. I feel better about myself and my ability to love myself wholly better and in turn, helping others better. Eroding self-trust and confidence is so important to recognize when this happening and how. Every single point here and example... exactly right.
Thank you for sharing this. So happy that this helps you feel supported. ~ Joel
A former harmony block for me, that was enabling, was when my ex would always try to get me to drink a glass of wine (to make it ok for him to have a lot of drinks). I was young and wanted to give others the freedom to be themselves (even if it was destructive). After many years, I sobered up and said, “no more.” He would still offer, even though he knew I was quitting. He wasn’t honoring my boundary, but he didn’t have to. It was up to me to honor my own boundary. For a while, I would still hang out with him (me sober and him drunk). One evening, he was in the kitchen cooking and burning everything. I couldn’t tell him that the stove needed turned down or the food needed stirred. He got angry. When he sobered up the next day, I told him I couldn’t sit around and watch him drink himself to death while burning the house down. I wasn’t going to enable him anymore. He’s going to AA now and is starting therapy.
Thank you for sharing this. I think others will benefit from your experience. ~ Joel
Love you guys.... Keep up the good work
Thank you for the kind words. ~ Joel
Thanks for this episode!
Victor Gulenko's Model G (Beneficiary Ring progress) shows INFJ (IEI) progresses by using Contact Fe, Fi, Se, Si to look more like an mbti-ISFJ (ESI) in public and ESFJ (ESE) in private.
Gulenko demonstrates how introverts use primarily the introverted functions in public. But in private they let loose the extroverted functions.
That is why as an INTP I can be very talkative like an ENFP (IEE) in private but behave more like an INFJ (IEI) does in public.
Joyce Meng uses primarily NiFiSiTi in public. She will not give free reign to her Fe and other extroverted functions unless she is off screen in a more private setting.
ENTP is very organized like their ISTJ (LSI) Supervisee in private. And is assertive like their ESTJ (LSE) Benefactor in public.
Thanks Jared for the comments. ~ Joel
INFJ man who says no and uses excessive boundaries when using Fe to control their dating experience, because they’re sooooo afraid of getting taken advantage of and looking like a push over will miss the forest from the trees. Needs to use better Fe Se to communicate and flow. Say no just to flex the muscle without engaging in necessary conflict is also garbage behavior. Conflict is apart of life. The word toxic is a way to say “poorly managed FeTi” No ones internal self is that important they need to control someone.. that’s internal weakness. If so, date a robot or an idiot you can control.
58:40 THANK YOU!!!!! this is an important concept.. INFJ door slam is a reaction to their own poorly managed FeTi! No one has asked them to shut any doors. They do it FOR themselves because they cannot manage the concept of correcting their thinking, bridging repair or editing their frame work/perspective in front of you, so they have to level the building, walk away and start over.. leaving you behind like you’re a villain..it’s awfully childish when someone’s at the door willing to work through it with them.
Hi Antonia, I’m looking up the authors that you mentioned to broaden my perspective. I found Joseph Campbell, but I can’t find the other. I’m not sure how to spell it. I think that’s my problem. Cordeleon. Is what it sounds like. Can you give me the correct spelling please?
Cordileone? Is this the spelling?
Antonia's INFJ mother and ESTP father had Socionics Duality.
ENTP and mbti-ISFP have duality.
ENFP and mbti-ISTP have duality.
One can only know this when you understand the mbti introverted sensing cognitive stack error.
-----------------------
Observation & Socionics proves ALL mbti-SJs lead with a rational judging function. ALL mbti-SPs lead with irrational sensing. Including the introverts!!!
---------‐-----‐‐------------‐-------------
Mbti-ISFJ (ESI) leads with correctly defined FiSe = Relations fortified by Se acts of service.
Mbti-ISTJ (LSI) leads with correctly defined TiSe = Logical rules enforced in the Se world ✏️ 📝
Mbti-ISTP (SLI) leads with correctly defined SiTe = Sensory pragmatism 🔨 🛠 🪛 🔧
Mbti-ISFP (SEI) leads with correctly defined SiFe = Sensory mood 💋 💄