LAZY WORKER blames AI for being FIRED from his job... reacting to "I lost my job to AI this week"
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Reaction to @Nadestraight "I lost my job to AI this week"
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Some people seem to have missed that @nadestraight admits to hiding the amount of time it took him to complete his work as is revealed at 32:33 - 33:22 and he did it for probably a year. That's not his employer giving him less work as he claims, that is him deceptively reporting that it took him far longer to complete his work than it really did, and that's why he wasn't given enough work to fill his time, time he WAS GETTING PAID FOR, and that he was doing it FOR NEARLY A FULL YEAR!
As provided by an AI. Go figure: "I just made a template which I would then reuse 100 times over. So, a lot of these clients end up having the same template, but what it meant is that work could be done in 1 hour, maybe even 45 minutes in some cases, even 30 minutes for these onboarding setups. This meant that it got to the point where I was doing 3 hours of work and getting paid for 7 and 30 minutes. You know, I was getting paid for 7 hours and a half and doing 3 hours of work. This went on for quite a few months, possibly even a year, and I didn't really tell too many people. It was created as a way for me to essentially work fewer hours, be more efficient, and get paid more money. I also got a raise in the past couple of years. The incentive was there for me to do those things."
Shad, you make it sound like he maliciously reduced his productivity when what he did was improve his efficiency. He completed every brief given him, even as his department became understaffed. Not reporting how long it took and 'quiet quitting' by doing less work are two different things. If you have evidence he was paid by the hour, I'll understand your claim of him being fraudulent. But as it stands, he was paid a salary to complete the design briefs he was given. I don't see it or how you came to the conclusion he was cheating anyone.
@@ettcha being efficient is a part of the job.
When you create something new, it's "a project". It's supposed to be hard, costly and take longer.
When the project is done, and can just be repeated, it become "an industrial process" that takes less time and should cost less to the company.
@@guillaume4519 It did cost them less, even with his raises. They reduced the team to one and he still kept up by creating his own "process".
@@ettcha if I am correct, the team is still one, since someone is using IA instead of him.
It could have been him.
@@guillaume4519 fair point. I should have clarified that he was a one DESIGNER team. I really doubt they would have kept him to feed the bot though. He is too senior for maximum cost cutting.
I don’t think an AI artist has the right to call anyone lazy, bro.
No artist who isn’t a marble sculptor has the right to call anyone lazy.
@@Don-Scrima nice attempt at a rebuttal.
@@milkinobama8160
Oh, since you completely missed the point, I’ll tell you: you’re drawing arbitrary lines to say who’s being lazy and who isn’t. Your comment was bad anyway because it was literally “No, you!”
@@Don-Scrima false, one takes skills to do while the other is lazy because they would rather have AI do the work while they claim they did it. It’s like if I use a machine to make me a pizza and then claim that I’m a chef cause of it.
A doodled stick figure has more value than any AI art.
@@milkinobama8160
If AI art doesn’t take skill, how come I don’t have the skill to make it?
Shad, you completely misunderstood what Nade was saying. Here is what you got wrong:
A. He implies that his workload was decreased over a 3-month period. He had a full 8 hours of work to-do, then the company started putting his workload on an AI causing him to only have 2 hours of work to do.
B. He is a graphic designer, the company won't always have a new task for him, especially since his work is Client Based. He will have times in which he sits around doing nothing.
C. You don't need a dedicated person to operate the AI, anyone can type prompts into computer, look at the result, then determine if its good enough. You don't even need any art training, as what looks good is entirely subjective, so why hire a new guy to operate the AI when anyone can do that.
The outcome is that the boss of this company decided that the guy who was working for him for 8 years and knows what he's doing can be replaced by a bunch of 1s and 0s that ANY employe can operate. There is now one less job in this world because people can't understand that overreliance on technology is what leads to human self-extinction
Shad seems to deliberately misunderstand and misrepresent people.
Okay so I had to watch the actual video because I suspected you were misinterpreting it (Though only the first three minutes or so matter really), and I'm pretty sure you did. You sort of latched on to the claim that he did two hours worth of work for 8 hours pay, but he never stated that that's how he worked for the past six years. Also the talk about clutter wasn't him saying that he was constantly behind on work. What he actually said is this:
He used to work as a graphic designer for the company, for six years. He was the only graphic designer for a while for some reason, which is why he couldn't take days off. He was saying *if* he took days off, work would then start cluttering. He never stated that actually happened though, or how many hours of work he normally worked. He did state that recently he was only given two hours of work a day by the company. It was a change made by the company, not by the graphic designer. They just suddenly stopped giving him work, but that wasn't him saying that he normally worked with minimum effort.
Now, if a graphic designer wasn't doing enough work to fulfill a company's quota, I'd expect that company to hire more graphic designers, not to give that graphic designer less work. This is definitely a case of AI making his work redundant, no matter how hard he worked for the company. In fact, he does claim that the AI the company uses works based on his own work, so the more work he did for the company, the more of a library the AI must have. He also claimed that other companies were now following the same trend of using AI instead of graphic designers. Now I can't verify those claims, but you certainly misinterpreted his comments in regards to his own effort. I wouldn't really say this is a lazy worker, not confidently and in capitals at least. He may just be right
He also told other graphic designers to essentially lie about the time it would take them to complete a task. Who's to say that wasn’t what he was doing, causing the company to give him less work, etc.? Not to mention, there's no proof that what he's saying is completely factual.
@@malikgaddy9543 There's no saying anything he says is factual, but nothing he says in the video implies that he intentionally worked less than the required quota
I have seen most of his video (the part that was relevant. He goes on about AI and such around half the video) and he never told graphic designers to lie about the time it takes them to complete a task. Where did he say that?
Shade, you clearly misunderstood what the guy said. It wasn't "there's a huge backlog and I only work for two hours without them knowing," it was "It use to be a huge backlog, but now there it only two hours or work to do each day." He wasn't tricking the company. He just didn't realize the company wasn't using him at all. He's an idiot for not realizing he was on his way out the door anyway, but he wasn't stealing from the company.
If you start getting your hours reduced, that's a sign that your employer sucks at getting clients, or that you're about to be let go. Either way, you should start looking for a better job, preferably one that can't be easily done by a template.
I'm glad I can see some comments here that have come to my defence. I'm not even going to watch this as it's probably a load of slop. Just know that I appreciate the people who genuinely care about my situation and understand the reality of it. Seems many people don't know that companies will often purposely give you less work before they let you go, as it's the time when they're testing your new replacement or a re-structure of the business. And in the design industry, it's not at all uncommon to have a few weeks of near silence, and then a few weeks of absolute mayhem, so the signs for possible redundancy aren't always so clear.
Again thanks for those sticking up for me, youtube has taken me in with open arms and 20,000 people now subscribed to me, and I make enough revenue to do this part-time while I search for what's next. I couldn't ask for a better salvage of such a bad situation. That's all I'll say :)
At yet you encouraged other graphic designers to claim their work takes longer than what it really does, so they can get paid for for time in which they won't be working, robbing their employers and revealing that's a practice you're perfectly okay with, indeed you admit to doing this too. In your follow-up video you literally admit that you hid the fact from your employer that you made templates that turned a four hour task into a 30 minute one to give you more free time but still get paid paid for not working during that time, as we exposed in this video, as we explain at 32:33 - 33:22
That is NOT your employer giving you less work as you claim in this comment, that is YOU deceptively reporting that it took you far longer to complete your work than it really did, and then not having enough work to fill the time YOU WERE GETTING PAID FOR, and that you were doing it FOR NEARLY A FULL YEAR!
You're a crook and the fact you've blatantly admitted it, but are still not taking any accountability or ownership for it, is really scummy.
@@KNIGHTSWATCH Have you tried not being a horrible person? You've made a video just to take joy in someone losing their job because you love AI so much. That thing you use to avoid doing the hard manual work to improve to the level your AI work does. That's a shitty distasteful move no matter how you try and spin it, which is also something you love to do. You might have hoodwinked some people but plenty can see through you.
@@KNIGHTSWATCH And this is why decent people like Skallgrim and Matt Easton don't want anything to do with you Shad. This is why people are going to listen to them and the likes of NuSensai and Sellswords Arts because they have experience and training and insights in fields you simply pretend to have.
@@NoFormalTraining
Even if what you’re saying has any kind of merit, it has absolutely nothing to do with the situation.
Why did you tell your employer that your job took longer than it actually did?
He wasn't cheating his employer, they were giving him less work.
Listening to Shad and reading the comments had me seriously questioning my comprehension! So many are going with Shad's read of the statement but I can't see how he got there logically! The dude clearly said he was assigned less work! Am I crazy? 🤣
@@ettcha same. how tf did they come to that conclusion. Now I think people just like being contrarian for the sake of it. Now we have the woke people who get mad on the left and the anti-woke or people who try hard to be based or unique for no reason.
@@ettcha You're not crazy, whoever this creator is, he's just using my viral moment to try and profit haha. Appreciate that some of you actually listen and don't have your finger up your arse while watching the video LOL
@@ettcha Same here. There’s a bunch of people here assuming that you can just do your own work when you run out of assignments at work. I know people who did that, but then ran afoul of ethics violations and they had to give a cut of the profit of their outside work to the company they worked for.
As a truck driver I’m looking forward to having an AI take over the really boring bits of this job
Oof! That title! Let me see how it goes but I hope Shadman is
- Balanced and fair
- Taking into consideration the clarifications in the follow ups given the time that's passed
- Not seriously suggesting doing the assigned work in 3 hours was lazy
Edit: 3 minutes in and Shad has shattered my hopes! How did he get 'he was cheating his employer ' out of him saying he was getting assigned less work? Out of all the takes I read, Shad's the only one to somehow pull that one out! Lol, I need a tea break! Might be back tomorrow to finish this but if shad is being serious, I'm honestly disappointed.
The problem is he was doing 3 hours of work, telling his employer that it took 7.5 hours so he could have 4 hours of free paid time.
@@ZttackFrmBhind he was doing 3hrs of work because he was only briefed on 3hrs worth of work by his bosses. They knew exactly what they were giving him and knew exactly how much more he could do because he had been running their studio single handedly for years. You have to understand, in his job, the work and material to work on ultimately comes from the client. He can't magically produce more material from nowhere if client didn't brief for it.
@@ettcha In the follow up video, he talks about how he didn't tell anybody how long it took him to do his work. and at the end specifically told other graphic designers, who were watching, to exaggerate how long it took to do stuff
also he was working remotely meaning that the bosses only knew that he was finished when he clocked out.
What he should have done was ask for more work.
But that's a morality question: If you are getting paid to work for 7.5 hours but can get away with only working for 3, should you?
You're misinterpreting what he was saying. He went from having a humungous workload to them giving him less and less work to the point where they didn't give him enough work to work on his entire shift. They were obviously lessoning his work load as they were preparing to fire him.
Did you watch the entire video because the guy literally admits to doing what shad is saying when he talks about his templates.
I was thinking this, until the follow-up video. He admits to doing this.
Come on, you don't seriously believe that? His boss went from 8 hours of work to 2 hours of work without adjusting his hours or giving him more work? I've never had a job where sitting on my ass for 6 hours was ever excusable. Even in a factory, if there was a shutdown there would be a limit of like, an hour before they sent us all home because they didn't want to pay us to just sit there all day. Maybe if we were unionized we'd get to lmao! But I doubt a graphic designer was unionized, so chances are the boss was expecting him to figure out what to do to stay busy and he just never did. If you have to hold someone's hand throughout their entire day, you aren't a boss, you are a babysitter.
@@An.Unsought.Thought A company lowering your workload, is a pretty common tactic in the white collar world. I really don’t get why people throw shade at this guy. Sure you could say “learn AI”, but the technology is changing so fast. It’s really hard to keep up with it.
Good.
To be fair to him, if I lost this job I’d be pissed too
They're pointing out that it was his own fault for losing it in the first place by not stepping up and taking on more responsibilities to justify his position. Instead of doing that he was happy to do as little work as possible and take a full day's paycheck.
@@Hirome_Satou I know but he had it made, I’d be upset if the gravy train left
"To do as little work as possible and take a full day's paycheck." AKA, how pretty much most people would describe their dream job.
@@riyadislam3441 Yeah, YOUR dream job, but not your employer's dream employee. That's the kind of thing you get to do when you're self-employed and are just that good at what you do and people want it, or have the luxury of delegating all the work that needs to be done onto others i.e. you're a department head or own your own business. Neither of these things describe this guy.
guy on the right looks like his dentist was utilizing AI 💀
That's very rude, he can't help it he was born that way
the dude acts really smug about gays and trans people for someone who looked like he was beaten half to death with a shovel to the face
31:25 I don't disagree with any of the criticisms of this guy, but man you'd have be insanely naive to think the average employer operates in this good of faith. What kind of utopian, hand holding, kumbaya singing world is Shad living in? Both the employer and the employee are on average as immoral as this guy.
Also, this is just a difference of opinion that Shad is acting like he's objectively right on. For some people / companies, the goal isn't the hours, the goal is the work load. I've worked in some companies that if you get your workload finished, they don't care what you do for the rest of the time, and I've been at some that do.
I suppose it's a question of whether the company has other work they could have the guy do (or if they should move to a part-time position instead of full-time).
Not saying, The graphic designer's work habits might have also played a role. But the main reason he did lose his job is because of AI.
1. He had a good track record: He was with the company for six years, received regular raises, and was the only graphic designer left. This suggests he was competent and valuable.He mentions being the only graphic designer and having trouble taking holidays in the past due to workload. He only did less work recently, after the AI system was implemented.
2. Workload decreased significantly, his workload became minimal in the last few months, indicating the company relied less on his design skills.
3,His colleagues, revealed the company transitioned to AI design using his past work as templates. Thus, his skills became obsolete.
Could he have worked with AI?
Maybe. If he learns to use the AI tool. However, the concern is the AI seems to handle most basic design tasks, potentially limiting his creative input. The question is Does the company need his specific skills? I think, financially, it was likely cheaper to replace him.
That is, assuming his story is 100% true.
I mean I'm not being funny when I used to manage staff I used to give more work to the people who actively completed the tasks and wanted more work, this resulted in some staff doing practically nothing. Which eventually resulted in us letting go of those very same people who done nothing and didn't have a good work ethic.
It's brutal and not nice but at the end of the day people who work hard and have a good work ethic are the employees that are more desirable and get the work.
They guy literally admits to doing exactly what shad was saying with the template section of his story and that he was doing this for at least a year.
2 doesn't make sense. If he didn't have work because they were doing it with AI that works faster, there wouldn't have been a work backlog.
No. He didn't lose his job to ai. He lost his job because the either didn't know ai was being pursued (seeing all other graphic designers being dropped should have been a red flag), or he did know about the ai and didn't take the initiative to show he can utilize it in his workflow to make him an essential employee.
It's up to the employee to prove he is valuable. If the company changes, and you still want to work there, then it is on you to prove you can keep up.
So no. He lost his job because he wasn't valuable to the company and he failed to stay in the loop on what the company was heading towards.
So many work from home artists do what he does, they cheat the hours and claim simple tasks take longer than they actually do, so they only work a couple hours a day because they are on salary pay.
No, he was replaced because he wasn't needed. He was overpaid and not providing any value. Its not that the company was like "Oh fuck quality, lets go for the cheap option!" It was more like, that guy is COSTING us money for no good reason and we need to cut him so we have money that is better spent on the quality of the product.
I guarantee you, I bet $100 that within a year, there will be a huge art community scandal because some big artist/s are found to be using AI, and on top of that will probably be the amongst the people who were complaining about it. Guarantee.
Every digital artist uses "AI". At it's bare function, just the "magic wand" selection tool is like an AI, it selects everything for you of a similar color.
Most programs that professional artists use have MANY automated tools that make their workflow more efficient. At the top, artists that don't utilize those tools are the ones who won't be efficient, thus will be let go.
If you want to stay at a company that is moving towards ai, then you better start learning how to utilize that ai
@@leetlc441 "ai" functions like magic wand is way different than generative ai, one is a tool, one can be a tool or can replace the artist altogether
I will bet you a 100$ that within a year ai will still not get good enough to be indistinguishable from real art, and artists will hopefully still have a moral spine by that time
@@rockandtroll2000 Nah that's cap dude. The AI art controversy literally began with Jason M. Allen winning a regular art competition with his AI art space opera piece. This argument was closed and won 2 years ago already.
And nah, artists right now will be using it behind the scenes 100%, and it will just take someone accidentally livestreaming their stable diffusion or midjourney window instance or something.
@@rockandtroll2000 We are getting there, google Ai-Da, a robot artist that make art...........ON Paper and Canvas!!!!!!!
He did mention that the 2 hours work a day was a new thing. This "good employee" stuff sounds really utopian and only works if the company is REALLY good in caring for its employees. 90% of companies don't care. I'm waiting in the office but if no work comes my way, so be it. If I have less stuff to do and more free time, I'll take it. And so will most people. Especially if paid under the average. And no, going to ask for extra work does not increase pay in these companies.
BUT when he goes on to recommend claiming something takes longer than it does, that is the real red flag.
Context sure is a non-existent thing, huh? For clarity, his recommendation comes in CONTEXT of higher risks of becoming redundant because of AI.
However he said he's gotten raises year after year. This isn't an unpaid employee doing minimum for minimum wage. Most of the "not my job" people tend to be behind a desk doing easy work people would do for fun.
If he's doing more work faster and actually good at his job then he has leverage to ask for better pay, promotion,etc., and if his company won't provide, then hes free to find an employer that will. That isn't utopian, its just a job market that although may not be too convenient, at least allows for great lateral and upward mobility to allow for exceptional people to be rewarded for their efforts if they want to look for it
Doing the extra work means when you change jobs, you have excellent references and can ask for better wages. Very common pattern in software development these days. You just have to spend at least 2-3 years at each job. Otherwise you'll be flagged as a job hopper. Since it can take a year to become truly competent in the large code bases, it makes sense that hiring managers don't like seeing that. You're also cheating yourself out of improving as well when you job hop, which means you're becoming less employable rather than more.
@@wangusbeef86 Or you do great fast work, it gets fed into an AI, and you loose your job faster. The thing about markets is that both parties have opposite interests.
Oh how far you've fallen. It's not very far, actually. Rock bottom was only a few steps down.
Its actually sad seeing shad like this
@@PankitoEmiya i think he's getting what he deserves. his views are abhorrent.
How's the movie going Shad?
"To be fair"
"In his defense"
He wouldn't do this for you
We don't set the standards of our own behavior by the lowest moral character
"Claim your work takes longer then it does.", That attitude ONLY works for Montgomery Scott from Star Trek, and only when he gets back promptly that the work is finished days ahead of time.
I was thinking the same, if he reported that he got it finish faster after telling them it took longer. Then the company would question if they should fire him sense he would be viewed as too good at his job that they may not be able to replace him if they get get ride of him.
yeah, the janitor uses AI to do this guy's job.
It's getting there...
It started with Roomba, & now there's hundreds of automatic vacuum cleaners...
7:50 I admit I haven't watched your full video yet, but I checked that bit out for myself, and even in your video the context is "I was full of work for the most part, but in the past 3 months I noticed I was getting less and less." The way he frames it isn't as him being lazy, or him intentionally trying to work less. His advice at the end is absolutely scummy, I'm not gonna lie, but I think that's him being bitter and thinking about it retroactively, and it wouldn't fucking work either. If AI is known to pump out things in minutes, when it takes you day(s), then companies will genuinely believe you to be useless. I work something that's not really programming, but kinda. Essentially I come up with math formulas, or ways to approximate complicated math formulas, all of them relating to electronic circuits, and AI can genuinely do my job better, since it doesn't even really need to create circuits like I do, it just needs to read the numbers at the inputs of the system and adjust the output (for those who know electronics, I'm talking about time and frequency domain responses of things like DC-DC power converters, that's some of the toughest crap I have to deal with). Honestly, I'm glad that next year I will start towards a degree in AI, really trying to get on top and ahead of the curve here.
I worry about that outlook my dad is an auto mechanic has 40+ years of experience he gets paid for the time the job requires to be done with his experience he can do some jobs much faster say a 12 hour job in 4 hours work should he be penalized for being able to do it faster if you were to take it to someone who takes longer should you have to pay for the extra time too you have to be careful on how you look at things due to how experience knowledge and skills can be used to shave off time to do a thing some jobs will take the same amount of time no matter what but others may be done faster with shortcuts you learn if the job is done and you are to be paid for what ever it is should you be penalized if you can do it faster than others
Like Oz was saying what is the benefit of going above and beyond for a mega corps making billions and giving you a not even living wage if all you get is more and more work to do with less and less time and tools to do said jobs this can apply to just about any work
One, learn to use periods, sir. Second, I think the "hourly rate" standardized by the assembly line doesn't work well for task-focused jobs. (Assembly lines made it possible to associate finished products with time, since the time the assembly line was on was equal to a set amount of product made.) People who produce results from a skill, whether that be painters or mechanics or even doctors, probably should be paid per diem rather than per hour.
That’s how salary jobs work, Shad. You get paid to be available for the work that comes in. Sometimes you work more or less than 8 hours.
But the guy in the video clearly missed the signs that his company was doing dumb stuff behind the scenes
AI's doing a better job then Diversity hires these days.
That's how bad the competency crisis is when AI can replace us now. You can bet 10 years ago we were more competitive to AI before Diversity hires.
Lmfao yup it's the blacks that are the problem. Tell me you are racist without saying you are racist
He was getting a pay raise every year how much more incentive do you need
Real term wages haven't increased in the UK since the 70s. The pay 'rises' barely cover inflation.
Gonna play devils advocate here a little. If he was hired full time here in the states he is guaranteed a certain amount of hours a week. If he finishes early he may just be guaranteed at least the 7 and a half a day. I know some people that get sent work, they complete it and send it back and just wait for notes and make adjustments.
Yep if there is a quiet day with no work you still sit in the office and do nothing because you are getting paid for 7.5 hours, but if you work from home there is no one to stop you from turning on the TV or making a lasagna. If they don't monitor your computer activity either then you have a lot of time to game (or make UA-cam videos apparently)
The nuance to this conversation (when it comes to art or highly skilled labor) is that the value of the piece or art or skilled labor isn't based the time that it takes the artist or laborer to complete. If it's worth $5000 for someone to own a piece of art or to solve a technical problem, then it doesn't matter (and shouldn't matter) how long it takes to do. The problem that AI introduces to this paradigm is that AI can create art and produce skilled labor for less cost and in less time. This means that AI will lower the wages and demand for those who used to be able to rely on higher wages and demand. Arguing that these people are lazy or unethical based on this strawman example misses the point. Yes, they will need to adapt by using the new tool of AI or training in something else. They only have to do this, because AI has had a radical impact on them.
AI is a helpful tool to use to assist with work, but it should always be double checked. It should never be solely relied upon.
Also, even if an assigned task takes you less time, always look for something to do. Always be available to take calls and answer emails. Respond quickly to any contact. Never leave your workstation. This dude was probably away from his work computer blasting aliens on a game.
I hate AI, because every single company thinks it's needed in EVERY SINGLE THING! Running an OS? Oh, YOU NEED AI! Use a web browser? Oh, YOU NEED AI! Playing Minesweeper? Oh, YOU NEED AI! Maybe not that last one.....yet.
I think you've got it backward, friend. We need a Minesweeper AI first; it's a huge time-saver. Then we can talk about all the other little chores we can get the AI to do.
Soon it will become essential for all the above things you mentioned, except the last one.
@@I_Blue_Rose Why do I need "AI" to browse the internet? I don't. Why do I need "AI" to use my computer? I don't. I've been using computers since the early 90's , and I've been doing so successfully without "AI". This is just the industry getting caught up in the latest buzz word, nothing more.
Did ya see the Minecraft AI?
AI is garbage for humanity. Shad I really hope you are just trolling, but I don't think you are.
I used a template like a robot and took all the creativity out of my efforts, and was surprised when they decided a robot brain may be suited for this task XD
I usually like your content, but this is such bad taste. Not your best video Shad.
Making a devils advocate argument here:
If everything becomes dependend on automation, on maintaining technology, you can make the world TOO complicated.
This is a rephrased argument from Jordan B. Peterson, who says that people with low IQ (
I'm not certain, but I think that Oz might not be Halo Infinite's biggest fan.
Bit of a shit take dude.
he said that the work used to pile up (because he wasn't doing it) and then they would give him less and less work. this is what companies do when they want you to quit. give you fewer and fewer tasks (because they know you won't accomplish them anyway) or schedule you for fewer hours or fewer days (so that you'll look for a new job). they didn't spring this on him, they got fed up with him and he was too dense to see it.
but on the subject of "you should ask for more work" - most companies today do not appreciate or incentivize going above and beyond, and there is no obligation to do more work for the same amount of money. if you complete your work, you've done what you were contracted to do, and if they recognize that you can do more than they're asking, then they should offer more money in exchange for more work, not pile more work on you and expect you to be happy about it. this doesn't apply to his specific situation, where they were obviously giving him less work to try and get rid of him, but just in general.
Where did you get that? He said he was the only designer at the job, and the work would pile up if he missed a few days. That shows that before AI, he always had work. He was getting a raise every year; who would give him such good conditions if he wasn't worth it? He spent so many years there; they clearly liked him. But when AI came into place, for the last couple of months, they didn’t give him as much work as before. And when they probably fine-tuned their AI program, they decided that a dedicated designer was no longer needed and said goodbye to him. From a business perspective, this is a good decision, and it’s going to happen more and more.
I still dont get the argument that it doesn't take away jobs because they say that one minute and the next they say one person using AI can do the job of multiple. We get it, using AI and Chinese slave labor is inevitable for the world but you guys dont have to lie and say the camps don't exist with your Nike shoes.
False equivalence and poisoning the well. Nobody is lying but you.
@@An.Unsought.Thought False? One second they say this isn't happening because its making new jobs, the next "well it is but the safe jobs us AI." Sounds similar to when a NBA player says forced labor isn't happening then when pushed says the U.S has their own issues. Defection similar to what your doing now, don't talk about the point just say "nah uh I don't like being called out."
AI pointed out that I was not really working, just goofing off two hours a day. AI took my job!
"Dey dook errrr jerb!"
honestly only two hours wasted is still better than most
@@bobowon5450Bruh. So he's actually the most productive relatively speaking.
Whats your point? They didn't give him work to do, because AI made him redundant, and then they fired him, because AI made him redundant. So AI took his job, writing it like an idiot doesn't make it any less true
@@thijmstickman8349 They didn't give him work because he was making it seem it took him EIGHT FUCKING HOURS to do a TWO HOUR JOB. God you're fucking dense.
It is not goofing, cancelling people on twitter and banning people on reddit are both very important job, and by the way, the AI sucks anyway, it was 4 hours per day!
I don't think there was work piling up. I think they had deals not closing and chose to risk budget cuts of the graphic designer.
A general rule of thumb I use at the US companies I've worked in, is that if you are not carrying over at least one task you aren't being assigned enough. But some team leads believe it is bad to have tasks that carry over to the next sprint.
Another rule of thumb, I use is to plan out multiple sprints and tell my developers to pull in tasks from the future sprint if they completed the current assigned tasks.
Regardless of what you think about him scamming his employer there are way more important things to talk about.
1. This guy who trained to do his job his entire life, was probably very good at it and got paid a nice salary, completely lost his value and is being replaced by the intern. An intern who is going to get paid minimal wage.. How is this good for anyone else but the company.
2. Those templates he made for the company have completely different value now as they did when he made them. Those templates will be used to feed the ai to make him obsolete. That is not what he signed up for. They completely screwed him over..
Both of these things are awful things that affect all the graphic designers in the world, but you are so focused on this one guy scamming his employer and the wonders of AI that you completely lost focus of what technology is supposed to do. It's supposed to make the lives of people better. Not the lives of companies. BTW the company probably knew very well that they didn't give him enough tasks. They were just planning to fire him anyway.
I loved watching that video because he mentioned he worked only 2h per day for 4 months in it XD
My husband holds a middle management position at a major securities and software firm. Since the onset of the pandemic, he's been toiling away in his home office, with the occasional in-person meeting. The lack of office distractions means he's working harder than ever. His work ethic is top-notch, yet paradoxically, he's more worn out from working at home due to his increased productivity.
As for that guy, well, he played fast and loose with the rules at the companies expense, and let's just say, he got a reality check.
I've witnessed multiple claiming they are safe from machines taking their jobs and in the same breath state how they are working from home.
Such people are going to have a very bad time in the near future. 🙂
9:20 why I definitely can't let myself get a work from home job, I'd be exactly like that guy
Shad, I mostly agree with you but it depends on the type of job. For example, at my current position in the company I work for, I started out as a receptionist, then I absorbed someone else's entire job, and then a third person's entire job, and then half of another person's job, and I still have free time. That being said, I'm also doing the work of 3.5 people in any given day, 2 of those people the company no longer has to pay, and you're saying I just because I have some free time I should be telling the company "You can go fire this person, i'm already doing half their job and I can do the whole thing, so you don't have to pay them anymore." ? Idk man. I'm being paid hourly, not per unit of production, so I'm being taxed for being good at my job and it seems a little dumb for me to tax myself further for very little in return.
Given, I don't have 5 hours a day of free time, but just the principal of always saying "I can do more, fire this other guy" for hourly workers who will absorb more work but not really more money, seems dumb.
Not to be that guy but it's pretty common in Europe to have a contract were you are guaranteed salary, so even if you don't have more to do you still get your monthly salary. It's so common place so we don't need to talk about our employers about it. Of course you want to have things to do and you maybe ask about it and also it's not a good sign in the long run since it makes you not needed. But they can't just fire you either since we often have like 1-3 months guaranteed employment by law after sign contract of resignation. So it's seems like that was what this guy was talking about, not that he did the bare minimum and then just got cash......
I commented on that video, "Everyone should have a skill that would be useful in the event of a worldwide EMP. With solar flares, it is a possible event."
Edit: It could be possible he was on a full-time contract (i.e 38-hour work week) but not receiving a high workload, so his employers would be obligated to pay him even if they knew he didn't have that much work to do. Before AI they might have changed his contract to casual or part-time instead of making him redundant. The person who is now doing the AI generation is probably an existing employee rather than a new one (would land them in hot water if they replaced him immediately after making him redundant). HOWEVER, when he advises to "claim your work takes longer than it does ... do whatever you can and rinse the company you work for" seems to show he would take any opportunity to "go on smoke-o" during company time. Depending how savvy his bosses were (i.e if they know what sort of effort actually goes into the work and could gauge how many manhours it would take) they may have been keeping him on out of goodwill despite knowing he did not have that much work - or if they don't know anything about graphic design, they may have naively trusted him to do the right thing and took 6 years to realize he was taking advantage of them.
Edit2: There are many jobs which primarily involve a worker performing manual data entry via Excel/etc, where boomer/old-fashioned/outdated/uneducated/etc employers would pay someone to work full-time to perform repetitive tasks without knowing of the existence of better alternatives (which is why systems integrators exist). Skilled employees may intentionally refrain from improving the workflow (such as creating a VBA macro for Excel) because the employer would fire them and just use the new workflow (i.e the macro). Even though it would be best for the company if the employee makes the macro and sacrifices their own job, our human nature often prevents this as we'd rather do the boring data entry and keep the job, rather than make a machine to replace ourselves. This seems to be the trap Nadestraight fell into, as he talks about how he made a few templates which he would reuse for multiple clients, while it sounds like his employer expected he would need to create a unique template for each client - which suggests he was either lazy and using old work with minor adjustments (it doesn't sound like the *quality* of his work was the issue), or (depending on the nature of these templates) had worked himself out of a job by optimizing his workflow and proving to the employer he is not worth the fulltime pay (who thus discovered AI as an alternative).
blacksmithing, that's what i learnt, i'm a sysadmin otherwise though
It's a shame combat/survival skills are ignored so much in modern education; schools have no incentive to teach them and parents are too comfortable with their reliance on government-provided "safety" to teach their children or indeed learn it themselves.
Didn't this happen recently with the solar flares only a few weeks ago
@@daisan5859 Yes I heard there were some minor effects but not sure what the extent of it was
@soundrogue4472 Yes but how long would it take? Would a web design company pay its staff for the duration of the outage? Edit: Actually say goodbye to money because it's all recorded digitally and would be wiped in this case
When your keyboard skills are not getting you jobs, try using a hammer and hand saw.
I feel bad for the people who got fooled in to thinking way before this whole AI thing happened that being a person working in software alone is a good career path. I remember this was the fad during the late 2000s.
Bruh what will we all do? At this rate let's just accept the UBI money and then have people like Shadiversity make Content for us to spend our UBI on. 😂
I remember that. They replaced those guys with indian programmers who could do the jobs for a fraction of the pay due to the cost of living being cheaper in the poorer country. Everyone is replaceable that is why low skilled people should learn how to survive without money. It involves hunting food, eating it, and trading the surplus in a barter system. This is what all people must learn after World War3. Watch the Mad Max movies: Money is useless in the absence of government. That is the future. God designed things so we must rely on nature to live and after majority of people no longer exist you only have basic survival knowledge left. Globalism destroyed the earth's balance. People relying on leaders are let down by them since it's not really thier responsibilty to control an economy. You have to get out of the system they created so it doesn't eat you. It was designed to consume you. (watch The Matrix, Neo learned to hack the rules so they can be used to his advantage. The fake money isn't real since it's generated out of thin air by centrol banks lol)
AI isn't just about software jobs being affected; it's also impacting physical jobs and pretty much everything else. I'm not sure what your job is that makes you feel totally secure, but I think that might be a false sense of safety.
@@Metarig Also he misses the point about military using robots to kill people and those AI programs either going rogue due to not thinking humans are good, or being hacked to think humans are bad so it is no longer safe to trust in technology which causes us to go ultra paranoid about anything electric or automated after this event.
I am one of those guys that hangs around conspiracy boards in my younger days warning people this was coming. It all started when AI was enough to beat Grandmaster level chess champions. That was the beginning of the end for humans in terms of obsolescence.
The other threat is when AI surpasses our ability to understand what it is saying such that it no longer sees a need to talk to us because it knows we wouldn't understand what the problem is when it wants to warn us of something. It is like when a nerd tries to talk to a 5 year old kid and uses adult terms and big words and the kid doesn't know what the adult is talking about. That is what all the scientists are saying when you put faith in AI.
The true motivation for why Shad likes AI is pure laziness to get good at art himself. Yes he makes a good argument that for professional artists and concept artists it makes their job easier and acts like a tool to make their work more efficient, but he is coming at it from the perspective of a bad or lazy artist that doesn't like hard work so he isn't just using AI as a tool, but as crutch and becoming dependent upon it to survive. (like the kid in school who gets AI to do his homework for him so he doesn't even learn)
The former is for convenience so a professional can brainstorm quickly. The latter is because he is stunting his development to improve himself because he can just rely on AI to do everything for him. (which is the dark side of AI because the more dependent on it we become the less developed we wish to be as human because we see no incentive to try hard anymore - just like body builders who choose to take performance enhancing drugs instead of trying to build muscle naturally)
Shad also makes bad arguments about the nunchuck as a weapon (it's a non-lethal way to deal with young thugs who you don't want to kill so would be great for cops or law enforcement just like a baton or tazer) and we know flail weapons are meant to go around defenses which makes this a weapon a disciplined person can use. His argument for why it sucks is because "it takes skill to use unlike a stick" which indicates he is appealing to laziness again. "I don't need discipline to be accurate with my movements I can just be lazy and fight". This appeal to lazy people is why he got roasted for not knowing his weapons by trained martial artists who actually DO have skill. If you don't want to train just say: "I am lazy". Don't make excuses and say: but this tool is convenient for professionals that is why I like the AI. No you like it because you are lazy. Be humble and just admit you are a lazy guy LOL
You don't want to work a full day? Fine, we can accommodate you.😂
This is called quiet quitting and he found out what happens when the employer finds out.
Let them keep screaming at the sky like the luddites did, humanity will move onward while these guys will just fall off the radar into obscurity.
Once Artist get past the ethical/law concerns we will take over the ai industry because we have skills that ai bros don’t have there’s more to ai art than just prompting
@@TheVisualDigitalArts Suuuure buddy, but these so called "ethical/law concerns" seems to be the hill a lot of artists want to die on ... their loss.
And yes, a person with art skills will be able to make some really cool shit with AI, but if you think technical AI skills are limited to prompting you are really out of the loop, AI isn't NFTs, there are no "bros" here, look up ComfyUI node workflows, they can get pretty damn complex and technical that you need spend some considerable time actually learning what each node does and what the hell is going on when you connect them together to be able to build your own generative AI art workflows.
@@AscendantStoic sorry some people have better ethics than others Artist become Artist not because of wealth it can bring but because of the love of the craft none Artist don’t understand this but having said all of that
Artist will come around and be the promoters and the ai bros will once again be out of a job to be honest I can’t wait for an ai to take care of automatic retopology for 3d modeling this will quicken my workflow 200%
In summary A trained artist will always be faster using ai than a ai bro using ai because of core skills we honed over many years. Corporations will see this and hire Artist over ai bros like yourself.
@@TheVisualDigitalArts And that's okay. That's how it should be. People with artistical skills SHOULD be able to make better ARTISTIC stuff than people who are mostly interested in the tech itself and are happy with an OK generation. Nobody can really disagree on that.
Like I can do some OK generations, but if someone with an actual artistic talent came and looked at it I guarantee they would see many, many many flaws in that image and that is even after I got rid of various wonky artifacts made by the AI itself.
@@MrPablosek I agree I just didn’t like the fact that the he called Artist Luddite’s for being uneasy about using software that was trained on stolen works especially when the law hasn’t caught up completely.
You can be pro AI without being an AIBro
He is being more efficient in that he's taking a smaller amount of time to do a job that would otherwise take longer.
The problem is that his employer is seeing no benefit at all from that. Maybe he would still have his job if he did.
The big problem with pushing yourself is that you WILL burnout and thats bad for everyone.
You want to charge for more time than you need, as you CAN and its not in your favor to rob yourself of that.
Your employer will do the same, they charge the customers for more than you claim you needed, they will also want that profit, thats absolutely natural and normal.
Your lawyer will charge you for way more than they actually need, even your doctor for your medical needs will overcharge you by a lot, as they CAN and its normal.
No matter what you do, you have to know whats the limit you can push it, thats the "market" and the market rates, you can get away with it and not doing it, you rob yourself.
Your employer wants to milk you more, they will look what work you do, but if they really push you harder, you might leave, you might burn out and take timeout, so they also have to be mindful what they can push for.
Also on top of that, you dont want to provide 100% of what you can, as all incentive is on growth, and if you cant grow, that will reflect badly on you and your supervisor will also see the lack of growth and you get replaced.
So the naturally way to go is to push in more effort if you get paid more to do so, then you show them growth and you are good.
For Shad has some flawed worldview here, but we also know hes prone to burnout, and that reflects on him.
UA-cam harassed me with that video recommendation until I finally blocked all from the channel just to stop it being fed to me every day.
He could of had a contract that he gets paid for eight hours regardless how long the work takes. This video was a piss poor take.
It's a Shad video on AI, of course it's a piss poor take.
@@vileluca Hahaha, I've been seeing he's very pro AI. No wonder.
It does not seem clear that he was lazy. It sounds like there suddenly was just not enough work for him to do.
AI plateauing is probably the best news I've heard.
It's not, reminds me when people were saying the GTX1080 was the ultimate GPU and video games weren't gonna look much better going forward because they were already photo realistic and soon APUs would be able to match it so there wouldn't even be GPUs in the market in the future.
@@DeanCalaway Graphics cards not same as AI. AI algorithm plateauing means there is almost no more room for AI to improve for the foreseeable future. This is the best its going to be, CONCEPTUALLY. Until may be Quantum computers become a thing but for now this is it.
Shad, your argument only makes sense in a theoretical bubble.
Employers regularly pay you for things that aren't directly related to work (staying hydrated, going to the bathroom, etc.) and employees are often asked to do things that aren't explicitly mentioned in their contracts (I became the planner for a team even though I'm not hired to do that). This is of course aside from contracts being based on hours worked, not results achieved.
I'd rather have an employee who does a great job in a fraction of the allotted time while being paid in full, than a mediocre job that required every second.
But one of these done in 2 hours of his job and there's nothing for him to do.
Become the person who invents the job replacing automation, then create an automated inventor. Labor saving devices should be a good thing, low skilled people should be able to find meaningful ways to contribute.
John Henry, probably.
Made a tool similar to those templates for programming when I was an intern. Presented it to the higher ups. Likely saved them more money in the first year than they paid me for all 3 years I was there. Looks absolutely fantastic on my resume. Years later they'll see that and ask questions in almost every interview I've had.
When AI eventually takes Jazza's opportunities and jobs away, I'd like to see Shad rationalize that...
I'm a fan of Knights Watch and Shad, but first and formost I am an artist. Using Shad's words when it comes to "Wheel of Time," I am personally insulted at the push for "artists, get with the tech" approach by Shad here. That's like the show runners of Wheel of Time saying "get with the times, the books are no longer relevant." Yes, that's basically what they've said and done. That's why I'm saying Shad shouldn't take that same approach when it comes to art.
AI is not art, and never will be. Art is, an always will be, a HUMAN experience. There is no art in typing prompts and letting a computer take the rest.
Jazza uses and supports AI art too.
Check out Jazza’s recent vlog about an AI art book scam
Imagine someone 20 years ago saying "Man.... I am getting replaced by ALL these PHOTOSHOP users.... Just because they don't want to wait 3 weeks for me to paint something for them on a canvas?! This is a disaster. Also, no I won't use Photoshop because I'M A REAL ARTIST! I spread my emotion on the canvas and I deserve to get paid even while I'm not working because I'm centering my mind and mentally preparing. And of course I'm going to charge you for all those hours, but I deserve it because I'm a real painter and not one of those DIGITAL CASUALS! We need to do everything we can to prevent Photoshop from becoming the standard so that real artists like me can still have jobs without expanding and evolving our skillsets."
FACTS: I've been in this position and went to my boss for more responsibilities / work -- Doing 2 hours of work for 8 hours of pay will not go unnoticed forever and it's your responsibility to not rip off your boss (just as much as it's yours to not be taken advantage of by your boss) -- Your boss will even reward you with a RAISE for securing your job!!!
amazing how the employer has basically no responsibilities
@@bobowon5450 They have a responsibility to pay you. Both you and your boss are in it for yourselves. YOU always have the responsibility to look out for YOU.
@@MrTickleTrunk I prefer to just work for a company that doesn't force that kind of adversarial relationship.
They didn’t have any more work to give him. They literally hired him to create these graphic designs, which they then use to train an AI. (which is why he had less work because they were already giving half of it to it.) once they were sure a I could take over entirely and didn’t need him for the two hours of work. They fired him.
Anyone blaming this guy for anything is nothing more than a corporate suck up. Management hired him for eight hours to do certain tasks he managed to get those tasks completed within the first two hours management proceeded not to give him any extra work because the AI was handling it anyways used to supplement where the AI failed until they felt the AI could fully take over and then they fired him. That’s what actually happened here now if your pro AI and you think that’s great and you can’t wait for the AI overlords to un ironically take over that’s entirely fine and legitimate. Anyone can hold that position if they wish to, but pretending like this guy was fired simply because he was lazy when every single part of the story is management‘s fault from top to bottom is the most cringe stuff I’ve been reading in this comment section
@@theomnidegenerate5236 Then you take on other jobs. The reason it blindsided him is becuase he did NOTHING about his working situation. He never even tried to find another graphic desin job at another company. I've done this myself. You make yourself unfireable by demanding more things to do when you've found yourself lacking. If you can't resolve it you know to start looking for work. The man had multiple months and he sat on his hands...
“I used to be a graphics designer, until I took an AI to the knee.”
It’s quite lazy to use AI to do art rather than learn how to draw like your brother. Please remember shad supports UK racist Tommy Robinson without any context for his actions over the years. Please investigate those you subscribe to.
When it gets to the point where he claimed they were only trickle feeding him up 2 hours worth of work they probably had an independent graphic designer doing the same stuff to see how long it was taking him versus how long the independent person was doing it
This is why having employees work at home can be a bad idea. If they work in an office, you can monitor them and weed out the slackers.
Hybrid seems to be the best, they still have to come in now and then so you can get to know them (and they don't randomly travel overseas without permission) but they also have the increased flexibility which has proven benefits.
@@PetrusEksteen Can you expand on those benefits?
Increased efficiency, reduced operating costs, no one else around means you don't have to act formal while in your own house, and there are some others. There are also some disadvantages but mostly from the employer's point of view (i.e less visibility on employee actions unless there is monitoring software installed on their computers).
@@PetrusEksteen I agree on the reduced operating costs. I don't think I agree on the increased efficiency, but I haven't seen the statistics. Not having to act formal sound nicer for the employee, but I don't know how it benefits the employer. I know I like not having a boss looking over my shoulder, but many employees (like the guy in the video) will just slack off if no one is watching them.
@@Seek4Truth-jc8iq You can look up some studies in it, there is also something to be said about a 4-day work week
All of this AI-bashing is like going back to the days when looms and car manufacturing became largely mechanised. Just two of many possible examples. It's the way the world works.
And when Teamsters rallied against steam locomotives. Evil steam locomotives were said to terrorize cattle and put hard-working horses out of work. Yeah, teamsters and horses lost out but engineers and conductors won big.
Looms aren't built out of large datasets of stolen work
I want to leave in the middle of what he did (automating his job partially) is worse then the company automating his job fully. As this is just a singular person and doesn't reflect the whole working population. Or how the pay by hour structure generally doesn't incentivize smart work.
We will see a big impact on the non exact jobs, e.g. graphics sector.
They'll be the first to fall. You'll have thousands laid off, because 1 person using AI can replace a workforce of 100 men.
Once A.I. becomes better on precise tasks with more complexity we'll see the exact jobs, lawyers, programmers, go as well.
We will see an exponential growth curve of job loss in the coming 20 years.
Sure some may be able to re-skill into A.I. but it won't fill the loss of jobs. This also isn't impacting one or two sectors.
Ultimately the problem will be A.I. outperforming supply and demand.
Large companies can downscale to skeleton crews while still having the same performance, but they'll hit a market fit at a certain point at which point there is no use in scaling beyond that as there simply is no more demand the company can capitalize on.
This might also ruin economics, as we've had a constant growth over the last 100 years. But what if like Facebook you hit the wall and have to start squeezing your current userbase or pivot into new products constantly as market saturation can be done by 2/3 companies. Because if you don't your investors won't be happy with their ROI.
In the end I think we do need to rethink capitalism, it's worked the best out of all the economic models so far. But what do you do if you can meet all the demands with 10% of the population. What does the other 90% do? They still need to feed their children, pay their rent, as we achieve post-work, how do we keep the whole economy going?
Shad, please react to Elder Scrolls Online High Isle trailer. We need a breakdown of the Nameless Knight's fighting style! Pleasee...! 🥺
This title and thumbnail reminds of a clip I saw from a steamer called Thor.
There are two variables: "AI takes over your job" and "you did something to learn stuff".
If AI takes over, and you did nothing, you loose.
If it takes over and you learned stuff, you win.
If AI DOESN'T take over and you did nothing, you loose.
And if it doesn't take over and you did something, you win.
It doesn't matter it AI is a thing. What matters is how you can adapt to it. So learn stuff. Or else you can't win.
That's Game Theory.
Is this "Thor" PirateSoftware?
@@PhyllisLane-xj5uf yes. He even drew his boxes in paint to explain it xD
Thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard, there is an opportunity cost to learning things.
Nobody has the choice to either learn art or not learn art, you have the choice to learn art or learn any number of other skills. If you choose art and you can't get work because AI does it cheaper and faster because it makes derivative works from stolen art you loose. If you learn another skill, lets say mechanical engineering (the job can't be replaced, we need a human person to be culpable in case of a failure), you win.
@@PhyllisLane-xj5ufGame theory but you tore out the page on opportunity cost
@@thijmstickman8349
AI is just a tool. You have to flex your creativity, skill, and ,dare I say, dominance, over it.
AI is like a power hammer. Did steam hammers put Blacksmiths out of work? Yes. Because it meant that the most skilled Blacksmiths could do the work of a team. Rather than the lead blacksmith have a team of subpar Smith's, that the first had to manage, that are there only to hammer, he could do it all.
I got into CS because I absolutely HATE computers.
You are treating his argument just the way you want to treat it to make him sound bad. I had the very same thing happen at the company I worked at half a year ago, we (we were some 50 people) started seeing a dramatic drop in things to do until at one point we were all more or less asked to leave. Luckily I am in Europe and leaving came with a generous compensatory package, however you we are all seeing this happen around all industries.
It's not that he was paid to do nothing, they started doing his job with AI to the point he didn't have anything to do (and was let go).
Also I really hate it when you are bringing up the "stealing from your employer" bit. I never heard you ask employers to pay someone a fair wage for what he's doing. You are very biased in this aspect.
Regarding creating more jobs .. we can only hope this is true. Otherwise we will all live on welfare (if they do implement that universal basic income) sooner or later. If you can do X things with 10 people instead of 100, that means 90 people are out of a job. They might not be able to get something else, or downskill themselves to get something and have food on their table. This is not a good direction to head towards.
So whether he's actually ripping off depends on how he's getting payed. If it's hourly then yes but if it's salary than no.
Its possible he was just being more efficient and you might as well work smarter than harder, as long as your not paid by hour.
Also if you're making templates on company time, its kinda theirs as they're paying you.
I think shads right about ai being here to stay though. You gotta start making it a part of your work if youre in any field that can make use of it.
i generally don't agree with you, but yes.. i saw this video a few days ago, and all i thought after watching it... "working 2 hours a day? they probably just fired him and used AI as an excuse, as they realized he is overpaid for the work he does"
He said he was working a lot and gradually his hours got reduced… then fired. The hours reduced when they started using ai.
@@npcimknot958 He also encouraged people to claim their work takes longer than it actually does, so it's not out of the question that he himself did that to his own employer.
@@npcimknot958 you must have watched a different video
You people have no idea how the real world works when working in an office.
I let the creator of that video know so he can defend himself
Shad, you just had the worst possible take on labor.
If your employer is willing to pay you for 8 hours of work to do something that you can finish in 2 hours then there is ONLY one acceptable outcome.
The employer quadruples your hourly pay. In effect, the employer told you that your labor is worth 4 times as much as you're being paid. If they don't pay you what you're worth then it is THEY who are stealing from YOU.
Right, but if you say your two hour work takes eight hours, and they hire a new guy that can do it in four; what outcome do you expect?
If you're at a job and you keep seeing a decrease in the work you do coming in, that should throw up huge alarm bells. You shouldn't celebrate it as "oh this is nice my job is becoming easier and easier" to the point you can finish work in less than 2 hours. This guy was a moron.
I hate to say it, but I stand strongly against Shad on this video.
Shad is absolutely upside down and Australian on this one.
He keeps talking about the employer, the business owner. However he says "employee" when speaking of the business owner. Shad, an EMPLOYER is the boss. EMPLOYEE is the guy working for the boss.
That is absolutely triggering.
Oh, the rest of the video? Yeah, I'm obviously on Shad's side. Crybaby time thief got himself canned because his EMPLOYER realized he can be replaced by a much more affordable and more efficient option.
Like you said, if the guy does nothing, he should not be shocked that he's replaced.
Jon Stossel did a story on the concept of "jobs getting stolen" and even that revealed good
Part of this too is that as foolish people vote to increase minimum wage only minimum wage goes up so business owners have to charge more to pay the higher wage cuts but when ordinary people are priced out of being customers it becomes practical to fire all the employees and replace them with AI in order to sling burgers without labor costs.
Then they can undercut all the businesses with employees but due to price fixing laws they can only undercut by so much so their profits soar as result.
Of course during testing and set up the workload of the robot slowly increases while employees are retained as a backup with ever decreasing work loads until they are fully replaced.
Throughout history every time the government interferes with the market the need to innovate and compete which enables consumers to be in control of costs is diminished.
Every penny of corporate tax, energy usage carbon fines, and minimum wage is ultimately paid by the consumer. Otherwise farmers would set up open air markets like the rest of the world and farmers would compete with quality and prices to entice us to buy.
I cant imagine being so unskilled and incapable of learning that I would be so easily replaced by a sub-human intelligence with no body despite years of warning of what was coming.
I'm not being harsh, either. Harsh would be pointing out that birds are more capable; case in point: corvids.
Are bird-brains > average hooman brains?
he could have learned ai tools and be years ahead of everybody else.
It's time for UBI.
Give US your kids to get a bonus.
Honest question here... if you are an artist, does having a pre-generated AI image help you? I mean, it might be a good way to spark ideas, but the image itself doesn't really have layers for untangling the background and such.
11:30 - On incentives. I've gotten involved in construction in the past year.
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As a sub-contractor, the general practice is supposed to be, 'Do this job, we'll pay you this much.' It may include some sort of deadline (depending on the job or others doing their job). Then your effective hourly wage is based on how fast you are... if you are slower, your hourly wage is basically lower... while a faster worker is effectively on a higher hourly wage. Then on top of that, there are evaluations of the work, so if it fails to be accepted by government regulations then you have to fix it on your dime. And if you keep causing it to fail regulations, then they don't bring you back.
Incentive : Speed means higher potential income. But regulations keep some degree of quality.
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What I'm contracted under is billing them hourly (minimum wage, as I'm unskilled) for my work. It means I'm paid every two weeks (like an employee).
Incentive : The longer it takes me, the more money I make.
Personally : I don't like slacking off. If I spend much time resting from straining my body, then I will actually knock time off... since I'm reporting my hours.
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I've been thinking that if I reached a point of sub-contracting people... that I would set a specific amount assigned to them. They can then bill worked hours as they do the job, and it gets drained form the amount assigned. If they drain the amount assigned, they can't bill for that job anymore. On the other hand, if they finish the job and there is remaining assigned budget, then they get the remaining amount.
But on top of that, I would check on their work as they progress. Ensure it is decent quality. But on top of that, I would set aside a budget for warranty on that job. Then, over whatever time the warranty is for, any work needed to fix the installation would be taken from the warranty budget... to pay the worker sent to do the fix, and cover any materials needed for it. Then at the end of the warranty period, any remaining warranty budget gets divided between the installing workers, warranty workers, and my business.
Incentive : This creates two... speed means they can effectively have a higher hourly wage... but quality also allows them a bonus down the road.
32:40 - Okay, it was bothering me so I need to clarify.
Employer : A person or business who employs a person to do a job.
Employee : A person who is hired by a person or business to do a job.
In this case:
- The graphics designer is the employee.
- The business he worked for is the employer.
“Employee”. That word does not mean what you think it means.
I see the arguments from both sides and Nadestraight's video on bluedrake's all AI channel has a lot of good points. It seems to me that he either refused to utilize and incorporate AI into his work or the company decided to hire someone who was better and/or cheaper than him instead.
I would counter that in a salaried position you are expected to work overtime without extra pay, the idea with salary is that you are effectively paid to be available to do the work they have for you. It be different if you were hourly as that you are paided for hours worked rather than availability. So at my work there are periods between projects or when im waiting on responses where i have nothing to work on but my bosses recurring comment is he's impressed by how much work i get done. I actually had a meeting where i asked for questions waited and then had to check that my audio was working because everyone was too shocked by how much was done and was still processing.
To counter that: if you know you aren’t getting enough work to be a value to the company, look for another job, even if you don’t leave right away you should know that the company has no interest or obligation to keep you employed if you don’t provide them with value.
@@JJKK408 I wasn't trying to counter the firing i was countering the characteristic of not having work as lazy. Admittedly this guy in particular should have gone to his manager and asked for additional work, it sounds like he was hiding from work rather than just light workload.
@@scurvydog20 yeah, and that’s fair but I think it’s still a good idea to point out that if you find yourself in that situation, maybe not being lazy would be looking/being prepared for a new job and not just riding that out as long as you can because you like getting paid for doing very little work.
"I couldn't take vacation." Maybe you could if they didn't have a massive backlog of work because of you slacking off for 75% of every work day
3:00 - He said that that was the load he was getting. Don't be shocked Shad, but not everyone makes money of UA-cam. There is a thing called "official employment" and "fixed salary". If your employer does not provide you with 8h of work per day, that's on them. Ah, I get it, you asked Chat-GPT to generate a script for this video. That'll explain why it feels like Shad's videos are scripted by a 10-year-old.
If you're an artist complaining about AI that is already using a computer. you are particularly hypocritical because it been around for less than a generation so you are already familiar with the shut up and just adopt the new technology mindset. you just don't want to do it a second time.
I will in the future the problem is the unethical way the this iteration of AI was created , if I use it will I own the art created?
The law hasn’t caught up until then I’ll use it for concepts only.
Shad's an asmongold viewer lol too many similar topics and points directly from him and the only reason I know is I'm an asmongold viewer
I have to tell someone this. I recently got a job by accident. I was browsing a job website and at one point, it told me to put my info in to learn more about a job. When I did, it told me that I had just applied for it. A week later, I got a call and was hired immediately. Now here's the interesting part. I get paid a certain wage per hour, and for an exact number of hours per week. I do my job, with certain parameters. If it takes me less time to do it, or if it takes me more time, I still get paid the same amount. The kicker is that I get everything done in about 1/3 the time I'm given. I actually look for extra things to do, and have spoken with the site manager about extra work, just because I want to give them more for what they pay me. I like the job, the only downside is that I don't get many hours per week.
Lol welp this will be on Twitter in a little bit with this title
It's already on reddit.
Employ-ER, Shad. ...ER... not EE. 😂
I agree with this comment section. There are times in the business where work is slow and even if you ask for more work, its not there or you need to learn a new skillset to do other work. Often times work is standing by ready for work to come in. It can be abused like you said, but appears to not be the case.