Why Furiosa is BOMBING at the BOX OFFICE?

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  • @nuclearmedicineman6270
    @nuclearmedicineman6270 Місяць тому +117

    Mad Max movie without Max is like making a Vietnam War movie that's set in on Antarctic research station involving a plotline of studying penguin mating habits.

    • @jackmcslay
      @jackmcslay Місяць тому +19

      That still sounds more interesting than 90% of hollywood movies nowadays

    • @jiminverness
      @jiminverness Місяць тому +10

      You can have a Mad Max movie without Mad Max, but for his absence to be forgiven, it has to be a really, really good movie.

    • @jeannaimarre3537
      @jeannaimarre3537 Місяць тому +8

      ​@@jiminvernessor a new concept to avoid being a generic spin-off.

    • @hereontatooine4623
      @hereontatooine4623 Місяць тому

      That is a false equivalent

    • @Lobosthecrow
      @Lobosthecrow Місяць тому

      @@jiminverness is it a good movie or not? or are we just parroting what youtube content creators tell us it is?

  • @Stormcrow_1
    @Stormcrow_1 Місяць тому +91

    I refuse to give money to people and companies that clearly and openly hate me.

    • @Foxhound94
      @Foxhound94 Місяць тому

      😂

    • @DIDI.TITI777
      @DIDI.TITI777 Місяць тому +7

      george miller told you he hates you?

    • @Foxhound94
      @Foxhound94 Місяць тому +3

      @@DIDI.TITI777 I guess so, or one of the internet trolls that he'll never meet in person got to him.

    • @PrivateCitizen84
      @PrivateCitizen84 Місяць тому +8

      @@DIDI.TITI777 Ah a person who never stays for the credits I see? They have quite a long list of names and companies.

    • @wrongthinker843
      @wrongthinker843 Місяць тому +5

      @@DIDI.TITI777 You must feel very smart eh

  • @invertedpolarity6890
    @invertedpolarity6890 Місяць тому +162

    1. No Mad Max.
    2. No one trusts Hollywood (nor should they)
    3. People tired of “girl-boss” characters.
    4. The actress is terribly miscast.
    5. F the higher-than-though Hollywood a-holes that hate us but want our money.

    • @daza3620
      @daza3620 Місяць тому +22

      I see a girl boss lead character on the artwork of a new movie and its a hard pass.

    • @Foxhound94
      @Foxhound94 Місяць тому

      You people 😂

    • @greggeiger7532
      @greggeiger7532 Місяць тому +10

      I’m surprised more people aren’t saying she’s miscast. Anya is great but it’s tough for me to see her carrying an action movie.

    • @clutch8602
      @clutch8602 Місяць тому +13

      People are also broke

    • @cormoran2303
      @cormoran2303 Місяць тому +9

      4 is a big one for me.
      I was reminded of Terminator Genisys where the actress they got to play Linda Hamilton's role was smaller than her and looked like Terminator 1 Linda Hamilton could knock her out.
      I just don't see Furiosa in this actress.

  • @MrAllen-cc6jh
    @MrAllen-cc6jh Місяць тому +16

    For starters, this movie should've come out no more than 3 years after Fury Road, when interest was a lot higher, and public fatigue with the perceived subversive female protagonist didn't cause a massive chunk of potential audience to just dismiss it outright. Regardless of timing, it also never should've had "Mad Max" in the title, and being a spinoff, shouldn't have a ridiculous budget.
    At this point in time, it doesn't matter to anyone if the movie is actually decent or even good depending on who you ask, or that it's less woke/feminist than Fury Road; the marketing doesn't reflect that. Personal opinion: basically every entertainment company needs to fire their marketing and PR teams, or at least purge them of activists.

  • @Startrance85
    @Startrance85 Місяць тому +35

    Furiosa needs to make 500 mill for it to be a success, atm it's sitting at 71 mill box office. Only the budget of the film was 160-200 million dollars, then you have advertisements, cinema fees on 50% and so on to think about.

    • @wedgeantilles8575
      @wedgeantilles8575 Місяць тому +10

      Closer to 500 million even.
      With something like 170 million budget you'll have another 80 million for marketing. That's 250 million.
      Since roughly 50% is for the cinema, you need 500 million at the box office to break even.

    • @Startrance85
      @Startrance85 Місяць тому

      @@wedgeantilles8575 Yeah they got a long way until they break even without losing money. This movie will not generate any money.

    • @seefoghall
      @seefoghall Місяць тому

      The estimates I heard are $440-480 million.

    • @Startrance85
      @Startrance85 Місяць тому

      @@seefoghall yeah cinemas take a 50% cut so probably closer to 500 mill.

    • @NoelCo-yd1gu
      @NoelCo-yd1gu Місяць тому

      I watched literally 10 mins of this garbage on a streaming channel and I'm glad I never paid a fkn dime for this satanic cringe fest. Fkn weirdo movie.

  • @mahguvnah7403
    @mahguvnah7403 Місяць тому +64

    The femininity of Alita Battle Angel is very much part of the original work.

    • @BowsettesFury
      @BowsettesFury Місяць тому +1

      And the movie honored that, that’s why it was good. A part 2 would destroy that legacy.

    • @elvisemerson6435
      @elvisemerson6435 Місяць тому

      I'm happy, because I'm not the only person who thought she looked like Gally, the protagonist of "ALITA: BATTLE ANGEL".
      Replacing Sharon Stone is a difficult task,kkkk

  • @AndrewFishman
    @AndrewFishman Місяць тому +46

    Nobody minded Tina as Girlboss in Thunderdome. So do not accuse us of bigotry, please, critics. We just want something that is Max.

    • @knightofthenine3121
      @knightofthenine3121 Місяць тому +11

      And this is because Auntie was a really good and written character whom Tina during the set even improvised some of her dialogue, and argue with George about it, Even her last line in Thunderdome was something she spoke when the scene was supposed to be quiet, and became eternal.
      "Goodbye, Soldier."
      People loves to criticize Thunderdome a lot, but it is literally the journey's end for Max as a Good Ending and farewell for him.

    • @AndrewFishman
      @AndrewFishman Місяць тому +7

      @@knightofthenine3121 I guess the theme song says it all. We Don't Need Another Hero...

    • @JSBrown303
      @JSBrown303 Місяць тому +9

      ​@@knightofthenine3121 Plus, Tina is a legit badass.

    • @jeannaimarre3537
      @jeannaimarre3537 Місяць тому +7

      I think writers should learn the difference between a "girlboss" and a "strong woman".
      Tina, Charlize, or Weaver's Ripley in Alien are strong women, because they earned their leadership as much by their acting, than the struggles the script put in their way. We as spectator can rely with their hardships and thus, it makes us respect them as characters.
      A "girlboss" status is undeserved, because it feels either forced or unreal within the story rules or reality.
      It's very hard to respect or even be interested in a character with rewards seemingly disproportionate to their struggles, and with us as viewers forced to see them as really strong, because the movie said so.
      Rey as a Mary Sue is an extreme exemple of a girlboss, but Taylor Joy's Furiosa flirts with some similar pitfalls.
      For example, there's no way a diaphanous 80 pounds girly could kick the kind of ass she does without superpowers. Sure, action heroes and heroines are always various levels of superhuman, but when you overplay it, it feels more like plot invulnerability, than an actioner's rule of cool with a hint of plot armor.

    • @Poisonedblade
      @Poisonedblade Місяць тому +1

      @@jeannaimarre3537 In Furiosa, she gets her ass kicked through the entire movie. She spends the first half as a kid in the cage and she has a whopping 15 lines of dialogue. Furiosa doesn't have the race swapping crap, the gay agenda, etc... It's just a great action film.

  • @jackmcslay
    @jackmcslay Місяць тому +56

    A movie nobody asked for boing released at a time scrutiny over messaging on entertainment is at an all-time high, and they make a trailer that makes the movie look like a feminist power fantasy. What could possibly go wrong?!?

    • @Lobosthecrow
      @Lobosthecrow Місяць тому +1

      nobody asked for any of the Mad Max films. and yet we had a visionary director that made them anyway. nobody asked James Cameron for Terminator, or Ridley Scott for Bladerunner...

    • @mrbigglezworth42
      @mrbigglezworth42 Місяць тому

      @@Lobosthecrow Bladerunner bombed in theaters when it released...

    • @jeronimo196
      @jeronimo196 Місяць тому +1

      @@Lobosthecrow and what about Jack's other points - you are just going to ignore those, huh.

    • @crispyandspicy6813
      @crispyandspicy6813 Місяць тому +1

      Fury Road was already a feminist power fantasy so i wonder why anyone would think otherwise

  • @wedgeantilles8575
    @wedgeantilles8575 Місяць тому +57

    30 years ago I never cared if the lead was male or female, black, white or asian. Or a green alien, ALF whatever.
    All could be good movies or bad movies and shows, it didn't matter, it was never about race or gender.
    Today I won't even take a second look at anything that has a diverse cast.
    Because I know EVERYTHING is only about race and gender.
    So the last new series I watched was "Reacher" - because the lead was a white male.
    Today, I would miss out on Ripley, Blade, Janeway... - however, we all know that today none of them would be the great characters they were 30 years ago.
    All of these movies and show would suck today.

    • @Dernellar
      @Dernellar Місяць тому +7

      It is like Christian or movies dedicated to any other religion. The plot must adhere to the tenants of the belief system and the moral of the story must promote them. So the art becomes predictable and loses all nuance. Concerning the wokeism, the cult of DIE, its disciples seem to treat the audience as children that must be educated. This is insulting and makes the films unpleasant to watch.

    • @dragonknightleader1
      @dragonknightleader1 Місяць тому +2

      Janeway herself is a feminist transition character where she's schizo about helping other civilizations. Sometimes she's strict about upholding the Prime directive and other times, she'll help the Borg survive.

    • @wedgeantilles8575
      @wedgeantilles8575 Місяць тому +2

      @@dragonknightleader1 I liked the first few seasons of Voyager, but I lost interest when the Borg appeared - because of the reason you already stated.
      But the first seasons I enjoyed.

    • @mrbigglezworth42
      @mrbigglezworth42 Місяць тому +1

      @@dragonknightleader1 Remember that time she got infatuated with a holographic man and kept henpecking his programming to make her perfect man? That was weird.

    • @serketenglish5963
      @serketenglish5963 Місяць тому +1

      ALF in a Mad Max movie? Yes please. He would fit right in.

  • @knightofthenine3121
    @knightofthenine3121 Місяць тому +22

    People are tired of all of Politics of it, and all it will take is a bad day to make them go mad worldwide Shad.
    Also, people wants a MAD MAX movie with Mel Gibson back as Max, not Tom Hardy larping as him since the Feral Kid theory is more real.

    • @jackmcslay
      @jackmcslay Місяць тому +3

      Mel Gibson is now 68, while the character would probably have died or retired years before reaching that age.

    • @Foxhound94
      @Foxhound94 Місяць тому +1

      I don't want him back in Mad Max, he's a better director and producer than he is an actor now. He's too old now as well. You just expect and want too much out of the series, I also didn't notice any political bs in it. So just continue to cry over it I guess..

    •  18 днів тому +1

      @Foxhound94 We want Mel. Only tears are from incels watching it bomb.

    • @Foxhound94
      @Foxhound94 18 днів тому

      I honestly couldn't care less about what you people want. Make your own fucking movie if it bothers you that much..

  • @wrongthinker843
    @wrongthinker843 Місяць тому +5

    It's really simple.
    Less money and no good will left.

  • @guardianofthewhills
    @guardianofthewhills Місяць тому +8

    The other problem that movies are fighting is that, regardless of how good a movie is or not, I and many others do not have the money to go to every other movie. That have been a few movies that have come out that I was interested in seeing, but I ultimately decided not to go because I could not afford it. But stay on watch!

    • @spacedinosaur8733
      @spacedinosaur8733 Місяць тому +1

      I've watched 4 movies in theater this year (all matinee, so soda/popcorn was actually more that the movie ticket) Two were fantastic, and I'd save up to pay to see them in the theater again. The other two were ok, maybe I'll watch again on streaming...or not. For one, (Godzilla Minus One Minus Color) I was the only person in theater!

  • @ViperChief117
    @ViperChief117 Місяць тому +19

    Several reasons one of which happens to deal with actors have pushed fans away with politics and everyone is tired of the same plot lines in films now. Why would I see a Mad Max film without Max in the movie? Lol

    • @Lobosthecrow
      @Lobosthecrow Місяць тому

      what's the plot of the film?

    • @jeronimo196
      @jeronimo196 Місяць тому +1

      @@Lobosthecrow I remember the plot of Fury Road - There and Back Again.
      They drove in a straight line, then they drove back in a straight line and took over the water fortress, since everyone was too busy driving in a straight line to defend it.
      I'd give an estimate of everyone's mental abilities, but my comment would be deleted after.
      And this one has even less Mad Max than the last.

  • @hamdinger7145
    @hamdinger7145 Місяць тому +21

    We need Ozriosa

    • @RevanR
      @RevanR Місяць тому +7

      How about Mad Shad? Building fortifications from junkyard's junks

  • @treyart1
    @treyart1 Місяць тому +45

    Mad Max without Max is like Halloween 3 without Mike Myers.

    • @Lobosthecrow
      @Lobosthecrow Місяць тому

      It's like Alien without Ripley, oh wait...

    • @EbonyPope
      @EbonyPope Місяць тому

      Alita Battle Angle was also a robot underneath. The suspesion of disbelief is much easier if the person is animated and not a real flesh and bone actress that struggles to push the visibly compliant and accomodating stuntmen around. I have no problem believing that with Mel Gibson but a skinny Furiosa?
      Also they always cast an actress that is the statue of someone like Theron instead someone like Gina Carano who is an ex-MMA fighter. At least cast someone who has the forearms my god.

    • @voodoochile333
      @voodoochile333 Місяць тому

      It's EXACTLY like that

  • @aniher4949
    @aniher4949 Місяць тому +26

    Our economy is in the trash... who can afford to see a mad max film with no mad max?

  • @basch71
    @basch71 Місяць тому +5

    Another thing is that Fury Road was like NINE YEARS AGO. Normally if you wanted to make a sequel, you'd strike when the iron is hot. Even if you liked FR or Furiosa herself at some point, that shit was so long ago that, that iron is not even cold, it's antarctic at this point.

  • @galenusv7831
    @galenusv7831 Місяць тому +5

    This is an example that no matter how good your actions, special effects, scenography and photography are, people will not be interested in a manly lead female that replaces the male lead of the story because feminism of the director.

  • @fatjoe460
    @fatjoe460 Місяць тому +12

    Liked Tom Holland as Spiderman and the Villains across his movies (hate all the supporting characters in films). Have no interest sitting in on another sour faced female protagonist in a modern action movie (hate Furiosa). Also loved the Alita Battle Angel movie too Shad. Such a feminine/adorable lead character.

  • @alexschmidt3034
    @alexschmidt3034 Місяць тому +9

    To be fair the last Mad Max also did poorly unfortunately and the big gap between them also doesn't help.

  • @kamenriderkfp6684
    @kamenriderkfp6684 Місяць тому +5

    In positive movie news, Godzilla Minus One is now on streaming services outside of Japan. Go watch that instead of Furiosa. You'll get a lot more out of it

  • @Super_Ammo
    @Super_Ammo Місяць тому +2

    "She's green as well."
    Can't argue with that! xD

  • @garchamp9844
    @garchamp9844 Місяць тому +3

    I just saw the girl boss protagonist and instantly forgot that the movie existed.

  • @zaqzilla1
    @zaqzilla1 Місяць тому +17

    The last movie was a bait and switch. Why would I go back for that?

    • @DnBastard
      @DnBastard Місяць тому

      Fury road was sick though where's the bait and switch

    • @DnBastard
      @DnBastard Місяць тому

      Is that a ksp rocket in your pfp?

  • @bubzthetroll
    @bubzthetroll Місяць тому +5

    What turned me off from even seeing the film was that Anna Taylor Joy's doe-eyes make her so physiologically different that it's impossible for me to see her as the younger version of Charlize Theron's Furiousa. I think ATJ is a good actress in the roles she's suited for but this was not one of them. They should have found a lesser know actress.

  • @richardsanchez5444
    @richardsanchez5444 Місяць тому +5

    10:30 self serving revenge movies can be good like the first John wick. But rarely

    • @Likexner
      @Likexner Місяць тому +3

      No, i wouldnt say rarely. I dont have any issues with the premise. I like it. As long as the movie is well made, im on board. I find the whole "rEveNge BaD" thing cringe.

    • @spacedinosaur8733
      @spacedinosaur8733 Місяць тому +1

      “Vengeance is a strange human motivation --- it can drive a man to do things which he neither would nor could achieve without it ... and because of that it lies behind some of the greatest sagas of human literature!” ― H. Beam Piper, Space Viking

  • @kamenriderkfp6684
    @kamenriderkfp6684 Місяць тому +33

    Making a Mad Max movie without Max would be like making a Scooby-Doo show without Scooby-Doo
    Oh wait. They tried that. And we all know how well that went over

    • @Lobosthecrow
      @Lobosthecrow Місяць тому +1

      nerds suddenly not understanding how extended universes work...

    • @james_M_magee
      @james_M_magee Місяць тому +5

      ​@@LobosthecrowThat's not how extended universes work. It's set in the Scooby-Doo universe without having Scooby-Doo and just butchering the characters that people love

    • @Lobosthecrow
      @Lobosthecrow Місяць тому

      @@james_M_magee which characters were butchered exactly? or are you just hating something because the tribe you identify with told you to hate it? and yeah, that's exactly how extended universes work, just because Miller decides to call his "the Mad Max" universe, doesn't make it less so.

    • @james_M_magee
      @james_M_magee Місяць тому +2

      @@Lobosthecrow every character on Velma was butchered

    • @Call-me-Jester
      @Call-me-Jester Місяць тому +1

      ​​@@Lobosthecrow I agree with the post pertaining to this particular franchise, the character of Max is the franchise imo.
      You do understand there is a difference between an opinion about an extended universe and not knowing how an extended univrse works, right?
      The MCU is a great example. Here is an extended universe that dominated the box office for a decade until Disney Marvel decided to prioritize identity based storytelling rather than the more universal (and profitable) heroe's journey.

  • @adblockturnedoff4515
    @adblockturnedoff4515 Місяць тому +2

    I am very happy to see Oz back on Knights Watch!!!

  • @anzerupnik1442
    @anzerupnik1442 Місяць тому +21

    I have a theory. I think it's a female lead fatigue.

    • @linus116
      @linus116 Місяць тому +4

      This is me. I have female lead fatigue. I don’t even watch movies or tv shows with female leads, and that cuts out like 70% of stuff I find on streaming because almost everything is female lead.

    • @mythicdawn9574
      @mythicdawn9574 Місяць тому +2

      @@linus116 I found the main character of Amazon's "Silo" series, played by Rebecca Ferguson (the one who played Paul's mother in Dune), to actually be one instance of very good "strong" (understand "manly") female character. She definitely is not feminine in the common sense, she has many "manly" qualities, like she is a no bullshit straight to point character, she is a pragmatist but she is not a girl-boss, she actively refuses to lead she is a loner to the core. And yet it never felt forced, like it never feels like a lesson that must be taught to the audience (which is the main reason "girl-boss" characters are super annoying), she does plenty of unambiguous mistakes, etc. And her character is clearly flawed too. Many of those mistakes come from the fact she is out of touch with her own feelings (which is very coherent with the rest of her character), and it leads her both to difficulties trusting others and bond with them, and to very impulsive decisions that more often than not bite her ass one way of the other.
      I try to preserve myself from shitty "girl-boss included" stories so I think I escaped the worst cases in recent shows, but I had the misfortune of watching (half of) Three Body Problem series, me being a fan of the books. Of course it's a Netflix show, but I still hoped lol... No, that Salazar (her surname) character is a big offender xD, she's like in the prettiest, most feminine outfits + makeup of all the characters in the show but she is also the bossy, super-intelligent entrepreneur. She (of course...) makes snarky comments about patriarchy or whatever in first episode, and then proceeds for the rest of the show to have temper tantrums and be super annoying in the most self-righteous way possible. Rest of characters are shit too, but mostly because the extremely bland writing.
      When I compare the two shows, it really looks to me like Silo is one of the gems of our dark time period. Yes the cast is all-inclusive if you count number of females and colored persons, etc. but it is not forced at all, never a point of discussion, AND it does not matter because writing is good. All these characters have clear personalities and goals, they don't just exist in a vacuum, they are not just pretty puppets made to do stuff that advances the plot, and attract x y z audience because of good looks, race or whatever.

    • @chriscollins2095
      @chriscollins2095 Місяць тому

      Modern feminism seems to want men to hate women so they can complain the rampant problem. Feminist writers like to portray women as unlikeable because that's what they think being strong is. And, of course, they like to demonize men. If men are getting tired of women, it's because of modern feminism.

    • @jeronimo196
      @jeronimo196 Місяць тому +3

      That's exactly it. I have no desire to see a female lead movie, even if Mauler is praising it.

    • @seefoghall
      @seefoghall Місяць тому

      Not so sure that is accurate, I think it's bad writing fatigue.

  • @AdeptusMumbles
    @AdeptusMumbles Місяць тому +4

    Redundant response but the main one for me, is no Bloody Max in a Mad Max film. Hollywood don't piss on my leg and call it rain.

  • @Makeroomformushrooms
    @Makeroomformushrooms Місяць тому +5

    We wanted Bolognaise but we got Lasagne.....much better analogy.

  • @Nanolis
    @Nanolis Місяць тому +7

    Personally I was never a fan of Fury Road, it didn't feel like a Mad Max movie to me. It wasn't bad necessarily, just not what they sold it to be. So I'm not surprised the new one isn't doing well.

    • @russ254
      @russ254 Місяць тому +1

      I didn’t like it - everything was dialed up to 14 on a scale of 1-10

    • @knightofthenine3121
      @knightofthenine3121 Місяць тому

      @@russ254 it was made for people who hates thunderdome but apes Road Warrior while forgetting who max is and his journey of redemption.

    • @Goro_Maj1ma
      @Goro_Maj1ma Місяць тому +1

      Guess you didn't think Road Warrior was a Mad Max movie either. Mr. I'm so special I don't like this popular thing hipster douche. 😅

  • @RepressedObeseCat
    @RepressedObeseCat Місяць тому +5

    Furiosa doesn't have enough representation - no emus.

    • @seefoghall
      @seefoghall Місяць тому +2

      A better movie would've been all the humans having to put their differences aside to deal with the oncoming Emu armies.

    • @RepressedObeseCat
      @RepressedObeseCat Місяць тому

      @@seefoghall 3x Huzzah!

  • @RichardPhillips1066
    @RichardPhillips1066 Місяць тому +5

    "Whats that your wearing 80s cosplay ? " "no its a Brigadien hoodie from a Australian HEMA youtuber channels " "oh...ok:

  • @radagast7200
    @radagast7200 Місяць тому +7

    I wont give hollwood a dime. And i know there are many like me.

  • @GhostOfSnuffles
    @GhostOfSnuffles Місяць тому +2

    You could say people were.... Fury-osa... that Max wasn't in it.

  • @grog4063
    @grog4063 Місяць тому +1

    In the original Mad Max, he was a police office driving a police Interceptor (with appropriate engine).

    • @Poisonedblade
      @Poisonedblade Місяць тому +1

      The Last of the V8 Interceptors!

  • @mandowarrior123
    @mandowarrior123 Місяць тому +3

    I watch entertainment to avoid angry women.

  • @RevanR
    @RevanR Місяць тому +8

    I think Why isn't the right questions here but How. Its too late, didn't try to bring something new to the table, there's no confidence in Hollywood's product right now

    • @jiminverness
      @jiminverness Місяць тому +4

      They don't trust it *not* to be a bait and switch.

    • @jeronimo196
      @jeronimo196 Місяць тому +2

      @@jiminverness Fury Road was the bait and switch, this is just the "switch". I applaud the honesty, but have even less reason to see the movie.

  • @Likexner
    @Likexner Місяць тому +3

    I dont want to see a female in a role that is obviously based on a male archetype. I dont believe that men and vvomen are interchangeable. If that makes me some kind of "ist" in the eyes of the general public, then so be it. I am not ashamed of my morals, ethics, values and principles.

  • @Xenophon1
    @Xenophon1 Місяць тому +5

    No Mad Max in a Mad Max film? 🤣

    • @Foxhound94
      @Foxhound94 Місяць тому

      It's a spinoff movie

    • @tomaszwota1465
      @tomaszwota1465 Місяць тому

      It's a spin off, literally. He's there for a handful of seconds.

    • @Xenophon1
      @Xenophon1 Місяць тому +1

      @@Foxhound94 A failed spin off apparently.

  • @Randomper279
    @Randomper279 Місяць тому +3

    I completely agree with you shad.
    Oz had a good point with the cars too. I want male max (ideally Mel Gibson) and v8 interceptor movie. Furiosa always felt like they wanted a female mad max to replace him.

  • @NormanReaddis
    @NormanReaddis Місяць тому +16

    Even if it was "written good", the main motivation is still compensating for the lack of female leads in movies by latching on a male centric IP.
    Never bend. They're learning.

    • @Likexner
      @Likexner Місяць тому +4

      I dont want to see a female in a role that is obviously based on a male archetype. I dont believe that men and vvomen are interchangeable. If that makes me some kind of "ist" in the eyes of the general public, then so be it. I am not ashamed of my morals, ethics, values and principles.

    • @jeronimo196
      @jeronimo196 Місяць тому +2

      @@Likexner Lara Croft is based on Indiana Jones. Give me 10 years and a combined recommendation from Mauler and The Critical Drinker - and I'll happily watch a female lead movie again. For now, I'm a bit burned out on this front, though.

    • @EbonyPope
      @EbonyPope Місяць тому +1

      Alita Battle Angle was also a robot underneath. The suspesion of disbelief is much easier if the person is animated and not a real flesh and bone actress that struggles to push the visibly compliant and accomodating stuntmen around. I have no problem believing that with Mel Gibson but a skinny Furiosa?
      Also they always cast an actress that is the statue of someone like Theron instead someone like Gina Carano who is an ex-MMA fighter. At least cast someone who has the forearms my god.

    • @eurosalamander
      @eurosalamander Місяць тому

      No, the beancounters are starting to notice the bottom line, but they’re still too afraid to report to their bosses, who are either in far too deep with the woke crowd, or are getting far too much financing from them. But the money, w0k3 or not, is drying up, so they’ll have to come back to the traditional watering holes sooner or later.

  • @nostrathomas8057
    @nostrathomas8057 Місяць тому +3

    I really think that a proper " Mad Max " spin off could be brilliant because we could get origins or other character stories. Max is not the only one in these stories. It would be like seeing this world they other characters experiences. I personally would love to see the origin of Tina Turners character in thunder dome. Or....Master Blaster and such

    • @spacedinosaur8733
      @spacedinosaur8733 Місяць тому +1

      or the further adventures of feral boomerang kid

    • @nostrathomas8057
      @nostrathomas8057 Місяць тому

      @@spacedinosaur8733 ha! Yes. That's what I'm talking bout.
      .....we shoulda got an origin of immortan Joe instead of furiosa but it is what it is. I still enjoyed most of the movie. Immortan Joe, recktus, and scrotuis🤪

  • @MannyNamiro
    @MannyNamiro Місяць тому +7

    It's crazy how a cartoon from nearly two decades ago did strong female characters correctly.
    Sokka: "I'm sorry. I treated you like a girl, when I should've treated you like a warrior."
    Suki: "I am a warrior. But I'm a girl too."
    If writers for a Nickelodeon cartoon can write strong female characters well, Hollywood writers should be able to too.

    • @jeronimo196
      @jeronimo196 Місяць тому +1

      They can't anymore, they wrote Korra.

  • @mobster5626
    @mobster5626 Місяць тому +3

    Agree with your points, but also the primary target audience for a movie like this is men, and as you said a lot of us are tired of the whole girl boss thing, so if women already aren't particularly interested in a movie like this and a huge portion of the target audience isn't either, then it will do badly. So agree, I think all the many movies and series in the last few years which have butchered cool and strong female leads, are definitely playing a huge part in why films like these are struggling.

  • @Shamrock797
    @Shamrock797 Місяць тому +1

    Two major points I’m surprised didn’t get brought up: 1) this is a prequel, and prequels almost always struggle, because audiences already know where the character(s) end up, if they’ve seen the first movie. 2) it’s a prequel to a movie from 2015, that’s NINE years ago. Barack Obama was still president of the US when Fury Road came out, that’s how much time has passed. If this had come out in 2017-18, it might have been a hit. Nine years for a prequel is destined to fail, sadly. Even for a pretty decent film.

  • @lucymiau5700
    @lucymiau5700 Місяць тому +1

    A Movie that is not an Event cannot break the wall of "gratis" streaming anymore.

  • @2bobtest
    @2bobtest Місяць тому +2

    I am waiting for it to come on tv for free.

  • @vannersp
    @vannersp Місяць тому

    What makes you think that Barbie was an accident. Having listens to the director, I think the message was precisely as intended.

  • @srksii
    @srksii Місяць тому +2

    Heh. Movie poster alone screams warning, strong independent girlboss inside, and everybody who got burned by Disney with girlbosses so far will run the hell away from it, even its good movie for change

  • @acelokey2
    @acelokey2 Місяць тому +3

    Red Sonja the 1980's movie was a masculine stoic woman done right

    • @BWC028
      @BWC028 Місяць тому

      They're remaking it as a wokefest lmao

    • @NoelCo-yd1gu
      @NoelCo-yd1gu Місяць тому

      ​@@BWC028black male love interest. I can already see it now.

  • @lance134679
    @lance134679 Місяць тому +1

    No matter the reasons action movies are mostly failing, the solution is to lower budgets. Just removing "the message" isn't going to be enough at this point. Hollywood is going to make less money at the theatres, so they need to plan accordingly.

  • @drifter-donosadventureobsc9565
    @drifter-donosadventureobsc9565 Місяць тому +1

    Damn i missed having Oz on the show. Everyone is generally truthful about their opinions, but only Oz is willing to say out loud what everyone is thinking.

  • @Draanor
    @Draanor Місяць тому +2

    I think Barbie actually had massive negative impacts on the general perception of cinema. They sold us on a fun movie and they shoved divisive politics down our throats. This has resulted in complete and utter apathy and skepticism of basically every new movie. Add on top of this the utterly flacid and sterile depiction of hyper masculine women and it's over. I'm tired of watching mediocre movies made by marketing people who dig up the graves of better movies and filmed by people who have no passion for storytelling or craftmanship. I've gotten to the point that when one of these prequel or sequel movies come out I just say "I have one of those at home" and then I watch the good version, you know, the one I like.

  • @JaraKex
    @JaraKex Місяць тому +1

    I'm 100% sure that this movie was written by an AI! It's a conglomerate of short stories trying to form a movie.

  • @SteveVonBacon
    @SteveVonBacon Місяць тому +2

    While I don't disagree with many of the points made here, from my perspective the main reason for the flop (or why I'm personally not very invested in seeing the movie) is that it's just an uninteresting concept. It's about a character who we already knew everything necessary about, her story is over, and she just wasn't that extremely complex either to begin with. And on top of that this prequel is coming out almost ten years after the first movie that I found was quite creative and not bad, but still, not everything has to be pushed to become a franchise.

  • @user-bf1nu1gm4u
    @user-bf1nu1gm4u Місяць тому +2

    Mad max rest in peace 1979-2024.

    • @NoelCo-yd1gu
      @NoelCo-yd1gu Місяць тому

      Mad Max died in the fkn 80's with Tina Turner homie. Don't act like anything past her was any sort of good.

  • @EbonyPope
    @EbonyPope Місяць тому +1

    Alita Battle Angle was also a robot underneath. The suspesion of disbelief is much easier if the person is animated and not a real flesh and bone actress that struggles to push the visibly compliant and accomodating stuntmen around. I have no problem believing that with Mel Gibson but a skinny Furiosa?

  • @pce0
    @pce0 Місяць тому +2

    no max, no money

  • @jamesbrown4092
    @jamesbrown4092 Місяць тому +1

    Sailing the high seas? With the quality of the catch these days, I just stay in port.

  • @account01289
    @account01289 Місяць тому

    Thank you for pointing the mismatched sides out its been driving me nuts! 😂

  • @AlexLee-dc2vb
    @AlexLee-dc2vb 13 днів тому

    I fucking LOVE this movie and am so upset that more people aren't watching it. I went to theaters three times and still haven't gotten over the joy that we actually finally got a follow up to Fury Road

  • @randolphdefreese7874
    @randolphdefreese7874 Місяць тому +1

    a prequel that no one needed.

  • @dr.jekyll5234
    @dr.jekyll5234 Місяць тому +1

    Relevant and Supportive Comment to feed the Algorangim

  • @serketenglish5963
    @serketenglish5963 Місяць тому

    Greg from How To Drink: "It was thanksgiving at my friend's house, and I took a bite of the cheesecake and spat it out immediately. I said 'This cheesecake is disgusting," to which my friend replied 'That's because it's a key lime pie.' I tried it again and said, 'This is a delicious key lime pie.'"
    Not the exact story word for word, but close enough, lol

  • @TheGamerZapocalypse
    @TheGamerZapocalypse Місяць тому +2

    Furiosa is Furious and angrier than Mad Max...Get it???
    All they did was what they always do, replace the male hero in his own story with a female...

    • @alantracy6757
      @alantracy6757 Місяць тому

      She’s furiosa at the men for paying her 5 million to star in this movie ? I mean she had to have her own trailer as well.. rrr paint my forehead black there

  • @Stormsorter
    @Stormsorter Місяць тому +1

    Didn't even know it was out or being made tell people started talking about it bombing.

  • @vileluca
    @vileluca Місяць тому +1

    A: because people dont have extra money for movies and $30 popcorn right now. 1/3 of all money in the USA has been printed since 2021.

    • @NoelCo-yd1gu
      @NoelCo-yd1gu Місяць тому

      Well that's the idea is to keep us poor. Paying for garbage video games and garbage movies. That's why I steal everything.

  • @TheBl00D1u5t
    @TheBl00D1u5t Місяць тому

    I love how this show always ends on the most awkward observations 😅

  • @temptempy1360
    @temptempy1360 Місяць тому

    @25:40 yes, get the movie from streaming service for no extra - but on top of that, crazy theatre and confectionery stand prices (often more per person than your entire household streaming service for the month)

  • @seefoghall
    @seefoghall Місяць тому

    I think that another reason box offices are losing money is because the studios rush the movies to streaming after like 2-3 months now...there is no reason to spend all that money at the cinema when you can watch it in your home if you are patient.
    Not so long ago, after a movie had been released you had to wait a minimum of 6 months before anything was released. Further back again, it was a year.

  • @trfinley7076
    @trfinley7076 Місяць тому +1

    Time to bring Mel Gibson back as Max at the end of his life. Mel Gibson is so tired of woke Hollywood that the movie would have to be well written to even have a chance of getting him involved.

  • @Micromation
    @Micromation Місяць тому +1

    To be honest I didn't even know this movie came out until videos like this started popping out. Couldn't care less what Hellywood produces these days... if anything decent pops out - I will hear about it 😅

  • @thespacesbetweenstudio3346
    @thespacesbetweenstudio3346 Місяць тому

    I also noticed the mad max replacement character looked like of basic. The directory knew if they put a handsome guy in that role, he would have grabbed all the attention for the character

  • @niccolorichter1488
    @niccolorichter1488 Місяць тому +7

    becase its a decade late
    thats the only reason
    the end

  • @jtheurp9101
    @jtheurp9101 Місяць тому

    You have to add to the list, the financial difficulties a lot of people are facing right now, so they are going to be even more picky.

  • @alessandrorossini3147
    @alessandrorossini3147 Місяць тому

    Actually...Max is in the movie. With the car. For six seconds,

  • @SomeCanine
    @SomeCanine Місяць тому

    Nobody wanted a Mad Max spinoff without Max, let alone one with a female protagonist.

  • @0ptimusv0ltr0n
    @0ptimusv0ltr0n Місяць тому

    I didn't see any trailers for this movie. I had no idea it was coming so soon.

  • @benjaminmclaren8782
    @benjaminmclaren8782 Місяць тому

    It's not about the Spagetti Spiderman. It's about the Mets, baby. I love the Mets. Let's go Mets.

  • @arlesberrios9046
    @arlesberrios9046 Місяць тому

    Funny, I had no idea it had already come to theaters near me😮

  • @markobranisel4094
    @markobranisel4094 Місяць тому

    I liked the movie. Very solid action, good tension, great costumes and cool props and vehicles. I went with zero expectations and was positively surprised.

  • @kristopherscholefield1723
    @kristopherscholefield1723 Місяць тому +1

    Girl bossed to close to the sun.

  • @willbohland3698
    @willbohland3698 Місяць тому +2

    Looks like Oz was right again.

  • @danieldominguez6208
    @danieldominguez6208 Місяць тому

    It’s kind of reminds me of avatar last Airbender when Suki tells Saka “ I am a warrior, but I am a women too” proceeds to give him a quick kiss then runs off to battle
    She is definitely a strong female character.

  • @leipzigergnom
    @leipzigergnom Місяць тому

    If you like manga, you gotta read the Alita Battle Angel manga. It's a beautiful, brutal, yet touching story with amazing world-building and a loveable protagonist who actually resonates with readers emotionally.

  • @alexmashkin863
    @alexmashkin863 Місяць тому

    Shepherd's pie is pretty much spaghetti Bolognese with potatoes instead of pasta 😂

  • @AKKK1182
    @AKKK1182 Місяць тому +1

    When Fury Road had great cinematography and action but a nonsensical story, Furiosa had mediocre action and an ok story. But that's the issue, I'm pretty sure nobody is watching Mad Max movies for the story. The best story in the Mad Max universe was in the video game, with the Road Warrior maybe coming in second. For a character movie, Furiosa had 0 character development. She starts out as a badass smart fighter girl and ends up as a badass smart fighter girl. That's the movie. Oh and there's like 3 chase scenes in there somewhere.

  • @temptempy1360
    @temptempy1360 Місяць тому

    Strong Feminine character Ripley, or the woman in the first couple of terminator movies before she went all nuts paranoid.

  • @TheBl00D1u5t
    @TheBl00D1u5t Місяць тому

    I think Oz looks like a noble squire!

  • @andysnyder3844
    @andysnyder3844 Місяць тому

    O no I didn't shower in 3 days and I look like a hobo thanks shad

  • @Maedelrosen
    @Maedelrosen Місяць тому

    Id like the spaghetti, without the bullocknaise

  • @orfanclub6288
    @orfanclub6288 10 днів тому

    12:23 Kris Murrel in Grown ups 2

  • @cvantrease1231
    @cvantrease1231 Місяць тому

    Good to see oz in studio

  • @Fiasco3
    @Fiasco3 Місяць тому

    There's only one way to make a Mad Max movie and that's to keep the CGI to a bare minimum and use proper cinematography with tracking-shots, built props and sets. Film on location. If should be a stunt-persons payday.

  • @grantofakkad3550
    @grantofakkad3550 Місяць тому

    The sad part is the movie was actually really good, and now we probably won’t get mad max wasteland which I was so incredibly excited for:(

  • @ryanwelch1321
    @ryanwelch1321 Місяць тому +1

    We are done with selfish "girl bosses."

    • @Poisonedblade
      @Poisonedblade Місяць тому

      You obviously didn't watch it. Rey, Rings of Powah, Captain Marvel, etc... are Girl Bosses. Everything comes easy to them and they easily win with no training at all. All of the men are stupid and the girl bosses don't need no man.
      Furiosa is the opposite of that. She gets her ass kicked by everyone and only has 16 lines of dialogue in the movie. This movie is like The Road Warrior, with Praetarian Jack driving the War Rig and Furiosa is the feral kid with the boomerang. No gay crap, no race swapping... just badass action.

  • @Kronical69420
    @Kronical69420 Місяць тому

    People want to make up excuses why they arent spending money on a movie, but what it comes down to is people just dont have the money. If we werent getting nickled and dime from every orifice we would still go see it even if there werent elements we didnt like. just to get out. Most people cant afford food right now, what are the chances of having spending money for a movie we may not like.

  • @georgeund7533
    @georgeund7533 Місяць тому +1

    I never watched mad max before, so I think my reason for not going is a bit different. I felt like 'what is mad max if it doesn't have mad max' and so I kinda felt like why the new character? and of-course its a woman. So I think standalone this isn't an issue but with the growing movie sentiment in the last half decade of women being forced into lead roles where they shouldn't be, this movie falls victim to that feeling lots of movie-goers have experienced recently, even if it isn't bad. Furiosa was probably a good movie, but I've grown a bit sick of always having female leads on almost every movie I can think of. Its like we can't just have a good strong male lead anymore without criticism.