Square Enix Games Are NOT For Everyone - A glance at FF7 Rebirth & More

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  • @therayldeal6683
    @therayldeal6683 10 місяців тому +2

    I've heard the statement that the Remake and Rebirth preserve the combat of the original a few times, and maybe I'm missing something, but that isn't really true. It's more real time with a pause, as playing the game to build ATB still requires movement, attacks, and blocks from the player, and the pause to use Limit or ATB is extremely minimalistic. The system reminds me more of Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 than original FF7.

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому +1

      You’re absolutely right. There’s one big misconception I had when filming this and that’s that the “classic” combat was turn based like the original. After reading this comment I dove into it and found out that the “classic combat” isn’t even available in Rebirth, and in 7 it’s not quite turn based like before, it’s like you described. Should have paid more attention to that, thanks for bringing it up!

    • @therayldeal6683
      @therayldeal6683 10 місяців тому

      You're far from the only person to say that about the combat. I've heard the incorrect comparison before original and remake/sequel's versions ever since the first gameplay trailer all the way back in 2019 or so.
      Good on you for digging into the systems on the Remake and Rebirth though. That's the sign of a good creator. @@GooCrewGaming

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  9 місяців тому +1

      @@therayldeal6683 I appreciate that dude, love contributing to learn about gaming/ the culture and having this forum for discussions!

  • @8bitbonsai
    @8bitbonsai 10 місяців тому +6

    Imo Final Fantasy games especially the older ones like VI, VII, VIII and IX have just so much charme and soul in it. You have this banter between characters, funny little moments that made you laugh or just simply dorky charakters. That is something that i was missing in XV and XVI. They had the same continuety with some elements like moogles and chocobos but something was missing. 7 rebirth has that again. If you can give it a try

  • @SuperRamos619
    @SuperRamos619 10 місяців тому +3

    Squar Enix makes games that Square Enix fans might like. Sometimes one of their games hits a much wider audience.

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому

      Like Forespoken! But that game got a lot of hate.

  • @knightofanguish7399
    @knightofanguish7399 10 місяців тому +6

    I've been playing all sorts of final fantasy, kingdom hearts, odd games like the bouncer, and Ehrgeiz etc. From an young age.
    As I got older, I gotten less and less invested with ongoing franchises (particularly kingdom hearts and final fantasy) and been looking for new adventures.
    In square enix's case, I am not a fan of their new direction overall but I find myself unable to drop Final Fantasy VII Remake and Rebirth and inevitably Part 3.
    There's two major reasons. Nostalgia and Closure.
    Yeah I love Final Fantasy VII. And it hooked me since they knew how popular it was for my and older generations. I was devoted for another trip down in memory lane only with a new spin which I'm all open for.
    But the problem I have with it is that simply this game is not meant for me. It's meant for the next generation of gamers. And it can be kinda frustrating despite more or less its familiar ground only enhanced to modern times standard of mechanics.
    Rebirth, for example, rewards veterans greatly in honoring alot of things that made the game great and more for those following its compilation. However, their decisions to divide and expand is daunting. And its pacing is atrocious. Climbing ladders, crawling through tunnels, climbing robe, fight some random monsters, pull a switch, slide through minigames all to open a door to get the next main plot point EVERY SINGLE TIME FOR EACH CHAPTER is not my idea of fun. But it is for others. I'm just outdated in my gaming experience. And it shows when I try to enjoy Rebirth and likely part 3 as they expand more and more with their usual elements.

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому +2

      Beautifully written, thoroughly enjoyed this.
      What you pointed out are valid thoughts, I had some trouble enjoying those mechanics myself and I play a lot of action adventure games. The attempt falls short due to the poor animations and I can see it becoming a drag, even if your playthrough is backed by the nostalgia of the original games.
      Thank you for sharing!

  • @RainbowKaraokeJunk-vt9pu
    @RainbowKaraokeJunk-vt9pu 10 місяців тому +4

    I really liked the remake and rebirth series but I am not a big square fan. I do like the games though. I wouldn’t consider myself a final fantasy diehard. I did love kingdom hearts when the story was a bit easier to follow they lost me with 3 and I’m not sure I will get IV. I admit Nomura is a mixed bag but he’s not the only creative at Square so I don’t blame him entirely for the state of the company.

  • @bilbo1778
    @bilbo1778 10 місяців тому +2

    For FFVII Remake I couldn't stand the cringe of some of the performances/dialogue (especially Barret - channeling Mr T waaaaaay too much) but I found when I changed the audio to Japanese and played the entire game w/ subtitles I enjoyed the experience much more. Much of the character animations and mannerisms evoke anime regardless so when I realized I was basically interacting w/ a Shonen anime (cringe and all) I started having a lot more fun

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому +1

      Interesting, may have to try that myself!

  • @kataklysmqk6187
    @kataklysmqk6187 10 місяців тому +4

    YASSS MORE GOOHI UA-cam VIDS !

  • @Kuponobu
    @Kuponobu 10 місяців тому +1

    Its okay if you couldn't complete the box breaking minigame, Goohi! We wont laugh at you.

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому

      There’s just too many boxes! Not enough timeee!! Lol

  • @RBumperGaming
    @RBumperGaming 10 місяців тому +6

    It would behoove you to stop saying without further edu

  • @mx-147
    @mx-147 10 місяців тому

    Tbh long cut scenes in FF for me should be a plus, they give a more cinematic aspect to the game and they aren't really that long. If you have a reduced attention span it's not FF's fault lol.

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому

      It’s definitely personal preference!

  • @Ssenys
    @Ssenys 10 місяців тому +3

    no prepassing

  • @EliTecapture-ru3vw
    @EliTecapture-ru3vw 10 місяців тому +1

    There's only a few FF games that I truly loved, FF6 and FF7. The series dropped the ball, in my opinion after FF9. I did however enjoyed FF15 for its unique mechanics and campy style. FF16 I did not like, after about 10 hours I quit. FF7 Remake I thought was great, because it was such an ambitious game, and it mostly kept true to the original story. FF7 Rebirth however I thought could've been better, and I didn't like the Padding and Filler. I felt so frustrated grinding mobs over and over, doing pointless weird super-slow jobs to complete a main quest. I felt like changing Zack's story was a bit weird, and a few other things I don't want to mention because of spoilers.

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому

      Thanks for sharing! I personally enjoyed FF16s combat a lot but the rest was hard to get into. 15 lost me because of all the driving, but I saw the charm in that one as well!

  • @merkloe2635
    @merkloe2635 10 місяців тому +6

    Are YOU overrated? I think so.

  • @geryon8814
    @geryon8814 10 місяців тому +5

    This is the most robotic essay I've seen on UA-cam, also one that is wrong on every single point. Square is the exact opposite of what you're describing

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому +1

      Good to hear your points very specific thank you

    • @rredix
      @rredix 10 місяців тому

      I lol'd for real

  • @caboose0975
    @caboose0975 9 місяців тому

    I'm telling everyone though, if you have not played Dragon Quest 11, you are absolutely missing out.

  • @itsdirtypantz3931
    @itsdirtypantz3931 10 місяців тому +3

    The convoluted storylines and just 19.5 different versions of the "same" game have definitely kept me from even attempting to be interested in Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy games. It would be great if there was a clearer picture as to how a new player should approach these series. As someone who hasn't played Kingdom Hearts I looked up "what order to play" them and Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5+2.5 ReMIX came up as the 1st. IDK, maybe it;s just me, but the "1.5" in that mouthful of a title makes me think there should be a game before that at least.

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah I can totally see where you’re coming from. It’s funny because knowing you, I actually think you would enjoy certain aspects of these games a lot!

    • @rredix
      @rredix 10 місяців тому

      Just play KH1. 5 final mix and forget anything else is in the series

  • @awsomeboy360
    @awsomeboy360 10 місяців тому

    All the square games quirks and JRPG's in general are why people love them. Western RPG's are good but JRPG's quirks make them unique and fun. There's nothing else like Persona or Final Fantasy in the market in the RPG square.

  • @segadcgamer7920
    @segadcgamer7920 10 місяців тому

    FFVII is one of my favorite games of all time; the story wasn't overly convoluted, it was paced well, the mechanics (materia etc) were simple but fun and I liked the characters. I played Crisis Core and watched Advent Children but didn't like either of them. I've played FF's 8,9,10,12,13,15 hoping one of them would be able to capture the magic I found in VII but none did and as the series number increased the stories got more nonsensical. I'm not sure whether it was because I was getting older and my tastes had changed or that they were just badly written, perhaps both. My nostalgia for the original meant I found parts of Remake enjoyable but was ultimately left disappointed. I'm currently playing Rebirth and my enjoyment of it directly relates to my nostalgia. I think it's unfair to say that it's just the Japanese way of storytelling, as it seems to me that incoherent convoluted rambling is just a SquareEnix way of story telling as there are plenty of JRPGs out there that can tell coherent stories rather well.

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому

      I see your point about other JRPGs vs Squares storytelling, well put. I still believe parts of the storytelling that may be off putting to some people have to do with the fact that it’s a JRPG (over the top scenes with quirky aspects), but the convoluted storylines are not a defining factor of a typical JRPG, I agree with you on that.

    • @masterexploder9668
      @masterexploder9668 9 місяців тому

      FF7 just hits differently, it was the first game to hit western markets at the right time and made an impression which is felt to this day. I just try to keep an open mind even though I am not really too much into JRPGs.

  • @LuBuKC27
    @LuBuKC27 10 місяців тому

    I loved the Aerith “Question, am I a dumb a**” 😭😭😭😭.

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому

      Haha left Barrett speechless 😂

  • @taylorrussell34
    @taylorrussell34 10 місяців тому +1

    I love the A NU START licence plate 🤣

  • @JarJarStinks32
    @JarJarStinks32 10 місяців тому

    Commenting this before watching the video: Square makes very good games with really cool characters and worlds but they tell their stories so incoherently. Like everyone knows the Kingdom Hearts storyline is damn near impossible to keep up with😂. I just played FF7 Remake, it was my first experience with the FF7 universe but there’s like key missing details in that game that would require you to have played another FF7 game to understand it. But that shouldn’t be the case for a REMAKE.

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому +1

      We align on a lot of views I’m curious to hear your thoughts on some of my other points! Thanks for commenting 👌

    • @masterexploder9668
      @masterexploder9668 9 місяців тому

      Remake is a bit misleading name. I met this description somewhere else, treat it like New Game+, it will follow the same story but there will be differences as the bad guy knows he's going to lose and tries to avert it through Lifestream manipulation.

  • @yubunleng5927
    @yubunleng5927 9 місяців тому

    I think every game is not for everyone even many popular games like GTA, God of Wars, Minecraft, Elden Ring.... there are still people out there who hate it.

  • @emmanuelrhein
    @emmanuelrhein 10 місяців тому

    in rebirth they change the most emotional moment in game history into the most confusion moment in game history. instead we "feel", we forced to "think" of what just happened. this was bad move from square enix, they were made dumb decission to do so. i don't undurstand why they put "complexity "instead "simplicity" it doesn't entertaining at all.

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому

      I believe I know what you’re talking about and I agree, I’ve beaten the game since I made this vid! The end dragged a bit and felt like a different take. They did a lot of good, but idk if it outweighs how some people feel about the changes.

  • @caboose0975
    @caboose0975 9 місяців тому

    The AI generated digression was amazing lmao

  • @charlieh7529
    @charlieh7529 9 місяців тому

    I partly agree, but I think saying the story is convoluted is just too simplistic. We can compare The Last of Us 1 to Remake or FFX to say an example. The Last of Us story is very well told, but it's such a simple story and it doesn't have any difficult theme, idea or concept to the point of being a very predictable story. Telling that story in an organized and interesting way is way more easy. Now if you go to FFX or Remake, they have some absolute crazy ideas, a lot of different storylines, concepts and arcs to play around. Simply telling that type of story is 100 times more difficult.
    FF is always convoluted in some ways, but the ambition in their storytelling, their worldbuilding and their ideas are top in the industry.
    About the cringe and the difference in culture, I think people should be more open to all types of media. Every culture has top tier stuff, and thinking something is too dark, or too childish, or too witty, or too cringe or... puts a barrier in some of the best works. One can like anime and love reading Dostoievski or Joyce; loving Doctor Whoor Brotherhood or Chernobyl or True Detective or Succession; having Your name, the Big Lebowski, Seven Samurai and Persona as your favorite movies... the laziest type of critique you can have is just putting adjectives to any piece of media.

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  9 місяців тому

      I mean it’s all a matter of personal opinion when it comes to a lot of the stuff you hit on! Saying the last of us is predictable, for example, doesn’t resonate with me because I did not think it was predictable at all, I would say it was just easy to follow.
      Thanks for sharing your points!

    • @charlieh7529
      @charlieh7529 9 місяців тому

      @@GooCrewGaming But that is my point. The Last of Us is really easy to follow is a very simple story (and that is nit a bad thing). The concepts and ideas behind them are really easy to grasp and there are very few elements for a writer to make it convoluted.
      FF are way more difficult stories to make them straightforward. Saying they are simply convoluted (which almost all of them are) loses the point that the ideas, worldbuilding and concepts they use are incredibly creative. And that is also huge credit to them.
      For me, if you tell a really simple story and mess it up, that is unforgivable. But if your ideas and world are extremely creative and complex, the logical thing is your story will be somewhat convoluted. Both have their merits and I think just saying, oh thst's convoluted or oh that's too straighforward loses the point.

  • @Keyatzin
    @Keyatzin 10 місяців тому

    KH story is just like a soap opera that's been on the air for 40 years.

  • @_n8thagr8_63
    @_n8thagr8_63 10 місяців тому

    I like most square games because they're at least creatively unique. Im so sick of gritty cyberpunk game/ gritty cow boy game/ generic online shooter lol.
    I love all the ninsensical charm of FF loved rebirth personally

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому

      Well put! Thanks for sharing 😌

  • @SuperWallace78
    @SuperWallace78 8 місяців тому

    I'm 64 years old and have been playing video games for 50 plus years... I have literally played and beaten every game I have played, which is in the hundreds. I am no stranger to tough games I have Platinum all the Dark Souls, Sekiro, Bloodborne, Demon's Soul's, Elden Ring, God of War, Lies of P, FF Remake and many others to just name a few. Rebirth is honestly sadly garbage whose main focus was to make this game geared towards players with cat reflexes and response time... It totally discriminates against players with color blindness, people like myself who have aged, people with disabilities or any arthritis in their hands... Rebirth is insanely difficult and demands a player to constantly play in perfection with many of their mini games, and hard mode is absolutely over the top ridiculous! When I purchase a game, I want to experience the whole game to get my money's worth... It is impossible for me and 80% of players to do in this game because we can not obtain the needed items to even go for a Platinum. I have beat the game, but at least 35% of the game I will not be able to experience because Square Enix has made it impossible for me to do so. Our world is stressful enough without gaming companies like Square Enix, making it even more so by their developers. Remake was challenging and fun... Rebirth is absolutely broken for the difficulty bar they have given this game. I absolutely hate it, and that is a shame because I love FF7 OG it is one of my all-time favorite games... I can still put in 42 to 44 hours into that game, enjoy everything it offers... Rebirth I have over 502 hours and still can't come close to doing everything because of how insanely difficult they have made this game. If a company don't want the majority of players to Platinum their games, then they need to let us know in advance so we will not be wasting our hard earned money on them. I will not be purchasing FF7 3rd edition because Rebirth is totally unfair to the majority of the population of players who want a challenging game but fun... Square Enix has clearly lost sight of what is fun and challenging to the majority of the player base out here.

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  8 місяців тому +1

      Sorry to hear you had such a negative experience friend

  • @Omie-Wan-kenobi
    @Omie-Wan-kenobi 10 місяців тому

    i love like 90% of SE games.

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому

      What’s one you hate? Just out of curiosity lol

    • @Omie-Wan-kenobi
      @Omie-Wan-kenobi 10 місяців тому

      @@GooCrewGaming i wouldn't say hate, but the ones i don't really enjoy are the ff tactics games, and i know they aren't SE but fire emblem and those types, just not my thing really. not really a fan of just cause or the avengers game either.

    • @mattholmes6268
      @mattholmes6268 10 місяців тому

      ​@@Omie-Wan-kenobi See.. I love this comment, nobody needs "hate" a video game xD

  • @lylianx4209
    @lylianx4209 10 місяців тому +2

    I'm a boomer who's somehow never played the old FF games. Both Remake and Rebirth were incredibly mid for me, with the part you mentioned about cutscenes feeling 'cringe' for some people especially hitting the nail on the head (personally I think of it as 'Japanesey' filler dialogue that somehow invokes a... 'comfy' or 'homey' vibe for Japanese players...?) It's prevalent in a lot of anime too, and is borderline impossible to localize into English and still sound natural - in fact the attempt to do so was, once again IMHO, what made the dialogue in the game Forspoken feel so annoying.

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому +1

      Interesting that you mention Forespoken! I played it and thought it does a lot of the things the final fantasy games do just without the brand, yet it was seen as a flop or a bad game. I think it’s because it was marketed as a western game but it was in fact still true to the Square Enix formula. Thanks for sharing!!

    • @madlinkers8595
      @madlinkers8595 10 місяців тому +1

      for me you seem like someone very narrow minded try to branch out a little and complain less

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому +1

      @@madlinkers8595 people are allowed to have their own opinions 🫶

    • @lylianx4209
      @lylianx4209 10 місяців тому

      @@madlinkers8595 😂Getting triggered by a comment about a game is a cue for some introspection, bro. Best of luck to ya!

  • @alanlee67
    @alanlee67 10 місяців тому +1

    Square enix very overrated. Squaresoft is not.

  • @solidwisdom8749
    @solidwisdom8749 9 місяців тому

    Its kinda over rated now yea. Not bad games at all like remake 1 and rebirth were high quality but square was better overall when it was square soft

  • @alanlee67
    @alanlee67 10 місяців тому

    Well, SE is the final fantasy company, hopefully we can all admit that. Now I'm not saying modern SE games are bad, but theyre not as great as the sakaguchi games...the sales prove that SE stans sorry.
    Final fantasy has lost its original identity once sakaguchi left. Final fantasy was not "anime" or necessarily "japanese." It had more in common with metal gear, silent hill, dark souls, or resident evil. Sakaguchi was a japanese visionary that idolized western D&d, like hidetaka miyazaki idolized western fantasy or kojima idolized western cinema. These games are takes on western fantasy through adult japanese eyes, thats the secret sauce.
    Sakaguchi actually advised tetsuya nomura to make kingdom hearts complex or nobody will like it. I think nomura took it too far and needs sakaguchis hand on his shoulder these days. Sakaguchi hated padding, enough was cut from ff7 to probably make another game. I dont think he enjoys the modern final fantasies much, although he plays 14.

  • @leoallan2225
    @leoallan2225 10 місяців тому

    FFXVI is a bit boring, with way to many cinemas, and lack of playable characters, the only game I can't stand the most is FFX 2, it's way too annoyingly popish, not happy with the big lack of Limit breaks in the newer FF's nowadays, FFVII remake, and rebirth atleast has tons of summons, and Limit breaks like the older games.

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому

      I enjoyed XVIs combat a lot but I have to agree on your other points! Never played FFX. Thanks for sharing!!

  • @caraloko123
    @caraloko123 10 місяців тому

    Final Fantasy VII Remake was GARBAGE, lame and boring ASF! An AAA game worse than FF VII: Crisis Core a game older than a decade? The graphics are OK, but the rest? The storytelling in one of the worse I've seen, it's not a remake it's a DEMAKE. I don't know 'bout Rebirth yet but i expect nothing

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому

      Did you play the originals? I’m curious!

    • @caraloko123
      @caraloko123 9 місяців тому

      @@GooCrewGamingYes, the FF VII and FFVII: Crisis Core!

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  9 місяців тому

      @@caraloko123 I wasn’t a huge fan of how they changed things either! But I did think the games had some good going for them (remakes)

  • @LexiconPrime7
    @LexiconPrime7 10 місяців тому

    The cringe in their games is just way too much for me.

    • @awsomeboy360
      @awsomeboy360 10 місяців тому +1

      I personally kinda love it. Most games are uber serious and there's no fun. Square games can be incredibly light hearted but at the same time has plenty of deep and serious moments. THey have wayy more personality than your average Triple A.

    • @GooCrewGaming
      @GooCrewGaming  10 місяців тому

      Totally understandable!

    • @madlinkers8595
      @madlinkers8595 10 місяців тому

      the fact you used cringe denied anything you had to say

    • @rredix
      @rredix 10 місяців тому

      A cringe man believe that he is based. A based man knows how cringe he truly is.

    • @LexiconPrime7
      @LexiconPrime7 10 місяців тому

      @@madlinkers8595Would it bother you less if I used the term "Secondhand Embarrassment"? Because the phenomenon is the same.