Watching him pull them out the freezer with just paper towels and seeing the powered discoloration and the wing pinning just all gives me anxiety, please use baking/wax paper to prevent that…. I’ve not even started insect taxidermy but I know a lot of info from research for future purposes, I recommend to any beginners wanting to do this stuff pls do more research! Love you! :)
When you do research on groups of small sized but very diverse insects, the numbers you collect from a field trip or expedition are so large you don't have the luxury or option to put the all in wax paper envelopes, folding the wings of tiny moths back to put them in glassine envelopes is too tedious at this scale, only if you practiced it yourself will you understand. Just not happening when you collect 1000 or more bugs in a night... Sheets like in the video or "field pinning" (pinning without preparation) are the method of choice...
Well now my ocd doesnt agree with the placement nor the small punctures through the wings. Very common misconception to use the venation as pin spot. You can use the venation as anchor when moving the wing either with forcep or the pin but holes in them, imo is unacceptable. To think they are going in a museum lol
I just saw a video from a small UA-camr and I was confused how different and less careful this seemed, not horrible I'm sure as a beginner in my class I'll do much worse.
Using 0 or 00 won’t leave a visible hole in the wing once removed if left for a very temporary amount of time if you need them to stay put while you reach for some glassine paper or something. Wouldn’t recommend using anything larger than 0 or 00 though as they will leave a very large hole.
I personally am going to try and get into Entomology and Zoology, and Taxidermy on normal animals would hurt my heart, but this would be not nearly as bad, but I will get these if it's like a common species or a friend got it for me, but, good job!
please never ever put holes through the butterfly or moth!! second dont use wax paper cause you can take the scales of the butterfly/moth! please use tracing paper.
@@saturniidmoff He's putting the pins directly through the wings, something you don't need to do at all and it helps destroy the wings. There are flat forceps that you can grab the large veins with to move the wings. They do less damage.
OCD does not equal having an eye for perfection or having a specific routine. being a perfectionist doesnt mean you have OCD. i dont know if you have a diagnosis or not, but the stereotype that people that have OCD are perfectionists is just kinda rude.
I have a question, The moths in the video...do they have dried wings? Because whenever I put mine in the freezer, they sort of get 'freeze dried' so to speak and even after a long time in a relaxing chamber, their wings are impossible to spread(and I only have them in there for a night).They go crunch crunch when I go to spread. Please can I have a explaination for what's happening?😵
How can you call them specimens they were alive its wrong to do that and put them in a glass case. And also, are you saying these moths were all already dead when you found them or did you kill them.
Did you know when moth larvae turn to moths they only live up to a week or less with they’re only propose is being to breed then die? :) just a friendly reminder
@@retr0galaxy647 Depends which moth genius- house moths can live up to four months. Doesnt change the fact that the moths were almost certainly killed before they died naturally.
Fun fact months of the same species of butterfly just not so beautiful so you’re clearly hurting butterflies that makes me feel sad please don’t kill any more butterflies imagine you being a freeze and then someone stabs needle do your arm yeah that’s with that but if they were through I meant mouth
why don't you go say that to those who kill (and eat) cows and chickens and pigs for the burgers ???? I'm a vegetarian and I do understand this beautiful education and art about pinning insects (eevn if I don't agree on killing them for that) so if they died on insect farms or in the wild why don't expose their beauty to the world ???
I'm not sure about this guy, but most people in this field collect already dead bugs, so nothing was harmed or killed for the express purpose of display
"Now because of my OCD I'm going to do a very standard practice action"
Perhaps all who find themselves preserving moths have a touch of OCD?
just a tiny bit infuriating ngl
@@RocketCityGardenerwhat exactly is a touch of ocd
Watching him pull them out the freezer with just paper towels and seeing the powered discoloration and the wing pinning just all gives me anxiety, please use baking/wax paper to prevent that…. I’ve not even started insect taxidermy but I know a lot of info from research for future purposes, I recommend to any beginners wanting to do this stuff pls do more research! Love you! :)
Wax paper will still make them lose their scales. I use Glassine paper. IT'S AMAZING
When you do research on groups of small sized but very diverse insects, the numbers you collect from a field trip or expedition are so large you don't have the luxury or option to put the all in wax paper envelopes, folding the wings of tiny moths back to put them in glassine envelopes is too tedious at this scale, only if you practiced it yourself will you understand. Just not happening when you collect 1000 or more bugs in a night... Sheets like in the video or "field pinning" (pinning without preparation) are the method of choice...
That sound your freezer makes when you open it STRESSES ME OUT
his freezer is antarctic.
Tombstone Wrestling to put the pin in also not head thorax
I kinda like it
Weakling
Well now my ocd doesnt agree with the placement nor the small punctures through the wings. Very common misconception to use the venation as pin spot. You can use the venation as anchor when moving the wing either with forcep or the pin but holes in them, imo is unacceptable.
To think they are going in a museum lol
This. I'm just starting out but cringed at how he did it
I just saw a video from a small UA-camr and I was confused how different and less careful this seemed, not horrible I'm sure as a beginner in my class I'll do much worse.
He put them there temporarily you couldn’t even see the hole once he took the pin out
Using 0 or 00 won’t leave a visible hole in the wing once removed if left for a very temporary amount of time if you need them to stay put while you reach for some glassine paper or something. Wouldn’t recommend using anything larger than 0 or 00 though as they will leave a very large hole.
yes never ever pin the wings not even for a second (I can see the light coming through the hole he says it will not stay...right ! )
when i red the title ‘how to mount a moth’ i thought it meant how to ride one.
lol
this comment is underrated 😂
rule number one! NEVER put the pin through the wing like he just did, use tracing paper
He said specifically that by taking them out quickly like he did it will give the holes tine to close up
Those sized pins (0 and 00) rarely ruin the aesthetic value of a specimen
I personally am going to try and get into Entomology and Zoology, and Taxidermy on normal animals would hurt my heart, but this would be not nearly as bad, but I will get these if it's like a common species or a friend got it for me, but, good job!
Wow finally a video that answered questions I couldn’t find in many many many other videos and such
Awesome video as entomology enthusiast
Thank you for video. Best greeting from lepidopterists and other entomologists in Ukraine.
Hope that in Ukraine spread leps much much better. Regards
rule number one! NEVER put the pin through the wing
I just found a dead atlast moth in our backyard. So im here to learn.
Whoa that is amazing! I can't imagine seeing an Atlas moth in the wild, you are so lucky 🤩🤩
This is cool
A dream job. At least looks so for me.
please never ever put holes through the butterfly or moth!! second dont use wax paper cause you can take the scales of the butterfly/moth! please use tracing paper.
That's a poor job done to those specimens. This guy needs to relearn how to pin.
How is it bad pinning looks pretty good
@@saturniidmoff He's putting the pins directly through the wings, something you don't need to do at all and it helps destroy the wings. There are flat forceps that you can grab the large veins with to move the wings. They do less damage.
He sounds like a mad scientist
Very helpful
OCD does not equal having an eye for perfection or having a specific routine.
being a perfectionist doesnt mean you have OCD.
i dont know if you have a diagnosis or not,
but the stereotype that people that have OCD are perfectionists is just kinda rude.
Thats so cool :0 i would give my mom one of these for mother day
ua-cam.com/video/XBEJRyq_I6M/v-deo.html
@@mykitchen531 girl, that video is amazing -you got a new subscriber 😁
How do you freeze then have ones do you thaw or something cause I have a moth and I want it pretty
I have a question, The moths in the video...do they have dried wings? Because whenever I put mine in the freezer, they sort of get 'freeze dried' so to speak and even after a long time in a relaxing chamber, their wings are impossible to spread(and I only have them in there for a night).They go crunch crunch when I go to spread. Please can I have a explaination for what's happening?😵
I think they just get all the humidity in them entirely frozen, so you just have to wait for them to de-freeze and get their body flexible again
@@7adpole734 Thank you😊!
You need to let them thaw
Yeah you gotta thaw them out
why not use wax paper so you don't have to pin the wings?
Ruiyu Zhang I think you have to use the pins to get them into position first.
Ruiyu Zhang he did. They are temporarily pinned until he puts the paper down
What is name of this soundtrack? Where can I listen to this?
Minos- Nolah
Are those dead butterflies
ua-cam.com/video/XBEJRyq_I6M/v-deo.html
No they are just sleeping
yeah.
Why would you puncture the specimen???
How can you call them specimens they were alive its wrong to do that and put them in a glass case. And also, are you saying these moths were all already dead when you found them or did you kill them.
Did you know when moth larvae turn to moths they only live up to a week or less with they’re only propose is being to breed then die? :) just a friendly reminder
@@retr0galaxy647 Depends which moth genius- house moths can live up to four months. Doesnt change the fact that the moths were almost certainly killed before they died naturally.
very very bad job
Very very good job.
Amazing job.
Leave the bugs alone!
Cay Dieu
it's science
Nigga
Cay Dieu calm down. It’s so further generations can see the beauty of them, in case they become endangered or extinct
For science? No. For your own collection? No. I’m sure there are lots of these insects buzzing around.
@@phant0m0th_ On top of that most collections are donated to museums when the owner dies or is too old to care for them.
seventhseance these insects can’t feel pain one and two most of them don’t have mouths and live like two weeks
Fun fact months of the same species of butterfly just not so beautiful so you’re clearly hurting butterflies that makes me feel sad please don’t kill any more butterflies imagine you being a freeze and then someone stabs needle do your arm yeah that’s with that but if they were through I meant mouth
Wtf are you on about
Tf
Kinda turns me on ngl
why don't you go say that to those who kill (and eat) cows and chickens and pigs for the burgers ???? I'm a vegetarian and I do understand this beautiful education and art about pinning insects (eevn if I don't agree on killing them for that) so if they died on insect farms or in the wild why don't expose their beauty to the world ???
Those poor bugs!!!
Corbin Jose calm down
+Generic Brand Cereal
would you calm down if some dude stole your baby or sibling, froze them to death, AND PUT THEM ON DESPLAY!?!?!! ;~;
I'm not sure about this guy, but most people in this field collect already dead bugs, so nothing was harmed or killed for the express purpose of display
Corbin Jose you are not a bug and I am not a bug
Well I wish I was a bug! And we don't put already dead babies on display ;~;
Tosh.Old