Even if kourend has a handful harder tasks compared to some other regions, its basically an auto pick because of how many skills it facilitates and how versatile it is for every build Wanna be a skiller? Enjoy wintertodt, farming guild/tithe farm, blood altar, woodcutting guild, bakery stalls/stealing artefacts, sharks/anglers, & hosidius mess hall Wanna PvM? Kourend catacombs, konar, sand crabs for training, alchemical hydra, sarachnis, wyrms and of course CoX Everything from early game grinds to midgame bossing and endgame raids and skill grinds. Perfect for a casual player looking to mess around for a week or two or a dragon-tier sweat. First region pick or last. You might be right, there might be some annoying tasks that are a pain to get like dragon warhammer, full pyromancer, specific raid drops etc., but 99% of players aren't going to be looking for maximum task efficiency and trying to top the leaderboard, plus there are going to be hard tasks in literally every region with endgame content. You might as well call morytania and the desert overrated too since "getting tob/toa KC and a scythe/shadow is going to be an annoying grind" I agree with you that wildy is most underrated tho, highly considered taking it for the reasons you listed. My vote for most overrated would be desert. ToA and tempoross aren't enough of a motivation for me to take the region, ToA is probably the weakest of the three raids in terms of enjoyment despite its solid rewards, you couldnt pay me to do 100 tempoross KC, mage training sucks even if they boost the point rate, and the DT2 bosses require different regions. Plus the skilling options are insanely limited, pretty much only agility/thieving/mining are viable to be trained there, I'll pass on the hype
Not bad arguments, all comes down to preference. In reality the only 2 regions that can really even be considered overrated are the desert and zeah due to the amount of the player base that seems to already be "locking" them in as part of their 3.
Wildy was actually really fun in the first trailblazer league and it'll be objectively now. The biggest drawback I had back in leagues 2 was the rarity of rev weapon drops in conjunction with combat style choices. I went melee but didn't get viggora's, manageable to work around but still disappointing. Also PKers will be at black chins so gear-up/bank frequently, but there also probably some competition for boss spawns/revs a bit. Getting PK'd is more of an annoyance than anything else but I did thoroughly enjoy DDS speccing out lower levels in the revs caves then killing them as they tried to pick up their loot lol
It sucks because I love farming contracts. But I don't like lizardmen, tithe farm, thieving relics, Ariel fishing, and chambers. I love barraging dust devils in catacombs, I love getting totems, but man are there some tough grinds.
Glad to see the wildy getting the shout here. I think for those looking at mage & melee specifically there are interesting options available with the new wildy weapons.
The only thing I'm not looking forward to on Zeah is the artefact grind. Love the rest so def going for it. Shamans got to a point you could afk kill them in shattered relic. I know this league is significantly different but if there's any sort of soul split type relic and/or lowering spec/wep reqs to something like 20% should be a cake walk and even if you do have to grind it out kills will only be a few seconds on each for a 1/1666 drop. The only one I'm on the fence about for my personal pic is Asgarnia/Kandarin based on if I'll want the mage relic or range/melee relic which I am presently I'll want range but it definitely depends on what is announced. I could still want melee anyways too but without knowing the relic effects for certain I can't say the content I wanna grind. Very likely going Asgarnia/Zeah,Desert cause I plan to sweat out going for max gear and a max cape and like a variety of content with max range, melee, and almost mage through those regions besides each missing a couple items obviously since you can't get everything. Probably would duo nex cause solo in leagues is probably still kinda hard. I wanna go primarily for max gear for my raid experience and try to do broken things. I'm sure I'll get enough points along the way. If you are not planning on no lifing smaller regions that have better tasks you can do quickly will be better for points. Also each raid will take a while to complete compared to a normal boss you can camp.
I think depending on your intended attack style, depends on your areas. Mage needs Kandarin, its a no brainer due to the fact that it provides tormented and occult alongside an early iban staff, etc, allowing for early progression as a mage. Ranged would be f*cking crazy to not go with tirranwn/(w/e), full crystal and bofa will be the biggest shining factor for ranged relic users, tbow being 5 tick and bofa being 4 tick, during leagues bofa will be 2tick vs tbows 3t, itll be insane either way though. Melee basically needs Asgarnia, it provides TOO much for melee. I'm personally going ranged relic, desert-zeah-tirannwn in that order, by the time I can go for crystal and bofa I want to be like base 80 combat stats with 90+ ranged already, and desert is the first unlock due to being able to make darts and afk ammonite crabs for half a day and get 80+ range. I also intend to do the inferno, so I need ancient magicks. Hoping levi is available with desert as I just need virtus top, not worried about the fremmy ring bs. If desert gives you the shadow ring/dt2 ring, its going to be fucking op as a free ring. My overall end-game goal is full masori w/ tbow and a fang for easy melee weapon, but if I'm stuck with crystal, blade of saeldor will be fine as well as a bofa swap.
One thing to note is points available per region differs they don’t all have the same amount of capped out points, and one thing different from this league to the next for wilderness is the fact loot keys are now in the game, which means instead of leaving all items on the ground when you die in leagues 2, your items could potentially be keyd and destroyed by the pker
I feel like Zeah still is a great region. Lots of great content and endgame raids. Im alright with all the tasks it has to offer except for the stealing artifacts. I hate that one lol
Your biggest argument on Zeah sounds like "grinds bad" which seems like the wrong take in general. OSRS is "Long Grinds" the game. Having more of them just means it has more content and options for the grinds you like. Having more options makes it more of an autopick for me, not less. Can't be scared of long grinds in OSRS, they are literally everywhere.
Leagues got me to make my first ironman a couple years ago. I'm excited to try more content that I probably won't get to in the main game for another few years 😂
Agree Zeah is definitely maybe a trap or at least you should never unlock it first. Wildy is very fun but its terrible imo if they don't instance the bosses, and it will be kinda bad if they don't buff the wildy weapons for use outside the wildy.
Hot take but best region: the region you most enjoy the content in worst region: Kandarin holy shit if i have to do barb assault and chompies on one more acocunt
Obligatory Kandarin hate thread (unless things change drastically, avoid unless you really want tormented/occult for max mage and save it for second or third pick): Literally no fun content imo. I like ZMI but its irrelevant in leagues. All the 'bosses' are afk. Horrible content like monkey agility, chompy, and fishing trawler. No BiS training methods or even training methods that offer multiple skills/tasks (like pyramid plunder, aerial fishing, tempoross, WT, MTA, SW, PC). Only BIS is Zenytes/Occult. 7% str and 5% att on a prayer is not worth choosing a region for. The Dcim has plenty of peers or near equivalents and a t60 weapon is not a good reason to choose a region. It offers nothing for range. For melee, void+defenders+dmace/baxe are way better than a dcim. For magic, the new staff+mystics is way overshadowed by infinity+tome+wand+ancients. Of course prioritize fun and content you want to try out, but Kandarin has basically none of that and isn't required for any other raids/bosses.
great take on zeah! looking forward to seeing what you pick! its gotta be asgarnia, morytania and desert for me!
Even if kourend has a handful harder tasks compared to some other regions, its basically an auto pick because of how many skills it facilitates and how versatile it is for every build
Wanna be a skiller? Enjoy wintertodt, farming guild/tithe farm, blood altar, woodcutting guild, bakery stalls/stealing artefacts, sharks/anglers, & hosidius mess hall
Wanna PvM? Kourend catacombs, konar, sand crabs for training, alchemical hydra, sarachnis, wyrms and of course CoX
Everything from early game grinds to midgame bossing and endgame raids and skill grinds. Perfect for a casual player looking to mess around for a week or two or a dragon-tier sweat. First region pick or last. You might be right, there might be some annoying tasks that are a pain to get like dragon warhammer, full pyromancer, specific raid drops etc., but 99% of players aren't going to be looking for maximum task efficiency and trying to top the leaderboard, plus there are going to be hard tasks in literally every region with endgame content. You might as well call morytania and the desert overrated too since "getting tob/toa KC and a scythe/shadow is going to be an annoying grind"
I agree with you that wildy is most underrated tho, highly considered taking it for the reasons you listed. My vote for most overrated would be desert. ToA and tempoross aren't enough of a motivation for me to take the region, ToA is probably the weakest of the three raids in terms of enjoyment despite its solid rewards, you couldnt pay me to do 100 tempoross KC, mage training sucks even if they boost the point rate, and the DT2 bosses require different regions. Plus the skilling options are insanely limited, pretty much only agility/thieving/mining are viable to be trained there, I'll pass on the hype
Not bad arguments, all comes down to preference. In reality the only 2 regions that can really even be considered overrated are the desert and zeah due to the amount of the player base that seems to already be "locking" them in as part of their 3.
There’s no way you out wyrms under pvm lol
Wildy was actually really fun in the first trailblazer league and it'll be objectively now. The biggest drawback I had back in leagues 2 was the rarity of rev weapon drops in conjunction with combat style choices. I went melee but didn't get viggora's, manageable to work around but still disappointing. Also PKers will be at black chins so gear-up/bank frequently, but there also probably some competition for boss spawns/revs a bit.
Getting PK'd is more of an annoyance than anything else but I did thoroughly enjoy DDS speccing out lower levels in the revs caves then killing them as they tried to pick up their loot lol
It sucks because I love farming contracts. But I don't like lizardmen, tithe farm, thieving relics, Ariel fishing, and chambers. I love barraging dust devils in catacombs, I love getting totems, but man are there some tough grinds.
Glad to see the wildy getting the shout here. I think for those looking at mage & melee specifically there are interesting options available with the new wildy weapons.
The only thing I'm not looking forward to on Zeah is the artefact grind. Love the rest so def going for it. Shamans got to a point you could afk kill them in shattered relic. I know this league is significantly different but if there's any sort of soul split type relic and/or lowering spec/wep reqs to something like 20% should be a cake walk and even if you do have to grind it out kills will only be a few seconds on each for a 1/1666 drop. The only one I'm on the fence about for my personal pic is Asgarnia/Kandarin based on if I'll want the mage relic or range/melee relic which I am presently I'll want range but it definitely depends on what is announced. I could still want melee anyways too but without knowing the relic effects for certain I can't say the content I wanna grind. Very likely going Asgarnia/Zeah,Desert cause I plan to sweat out going for max gear and a max cape and like a variety of content with max range, melee, and almost mage through those regions besides each missing a couple items obviously since you can't get everything. Probably would duo nex cause solo in leagues is probably still kinda hard. I wanna go primarily for max gear for my raid experience and try to do broken things. I'm sure I'll get enough points along the way. If you are not planning on no lifing smaller regions that have better tasks you can do quickly will be better for points. Also each raid will take a while to complete compared to a normal boss you can camp.
Forthos dungeon is the main reason why I'm picking zeah prayer training crafting training galor n a bunch more content
I think depending on your intended attack style, depends on your areas.
Mage needs Kandarin, its a no brainer due to the fact that it provides tormented and occult alongside an early iban staff, etc, allowing for early progression as a mage.
Ranged would be f*cking crazy to not go with tirranwn/(w/e), full crystal and bofa will be the biggest shining factor for ranged relic users, tbow being 5 tick and bofa being 4 tick, during leagues bofa will be 2tick vs tbows 3t, itll be insane either way though.
Melee basically needs Asgarnia, it provides TOO much for melee.
I'm personally going ranged relic, desert-zeah-tirannwn in that order, by the time I can go for crystal and bofa I want to be like base 80 combat stats with 90+ ranged already, and desert is the first unlock due to being able to make darts and afk ammonite crabs for half a day and get 80+ range. I also intend to do the inferno, so I need ancient magicks. Hoping levi is available with desert as I just need virtus top, not worried about the fremmy ring bs. If desert gives you the shadow ring/dt2 ring, its going to be fucking op as a free ring. My overall end-game goal is full masori w/ tbow and a fang for easy melee weapon, but if I'm stuck with crystal, blade of saeldor will be fine as well as a bofa swap.
I think the only bad grind in wilderness is corp beast. Simply because most builds cannot solo it at all. BGS is the only viable way to kill it.
One thing to note is points available per region differs they don’t all have the same amount of capped out points, and one thing different from this league to the next for wilderness is the fact loot keys are now in the game, which means instead of leaving all items on the ground when you die in leagues 2, your items could potentially be keyd and destroyed by the pker
You don't lose any tradeable items in the wilderness, it acts as a PVM death with a gravestone
I feel like Zeah still is a great region. Lots of great content and endgame raids. Im alright with all the tasks it has to offer except for the stealing artifacts. I hate that one lol
Most people see Leagues as a way to practise content that we can't do on the normal game. Couldn't care less about the points.
Your biggest argument on Zeah sounds like "grinds bad" which seems like the wrong take in general. OSRS is "Long Grinds" the game. Having more of them just means it has more content and options for the grinds you like. Having more options makes it more of an autopick for me, not less. Can't be scared of long grinds in OSRS, they are literally everywhere.
Long grinds and limited time game modes aren't a good match. Long grinds on the main game are a completely different story
I believe for a lot of people, leagues are a chance to try out new, harder content.
Very true for many people
Leagues got me to make my first ironman a couple years ago. I'm excited to try more content that I probably won't get to in the main game for another few years 😂
Agree Zeah is definitely maybe a trap or at least you should never unlock it first. Wildy is very fun but its terrible imo if they don't instance the bosses, and it will be kinda bad if they don't buff the wildy weapons for use outside the wildy.
Hot take but best region: the region you most enjoy the content in
worst region: Kandarin holy shit if i have to do barb assault and chompies on one more acocunt
Legit start your game by running into the wild and getting pked and losing a shit ton of time haha im good
Obligatory Kandarin hate thread (unless things change drastically, avoid unless you really want tormented/occult for max mage and save it for second or third pick):
Literally no fun content imo. I like ZMI but its irrelevant in leagues. All the 'bosses' are afk. Horrible content like monkey agility, chompy, and fishing trawler.
No BiS training methods or even training methods that offer multiple skills/tasks (like pyramid plunder, aerial fishing, tempoross, WT, MTA, SW, PC).
Only BIS is Zenytes/Occult. 7% str and 5% att on a prayer is not worth choosing a region for. The Dcim has plenty of peers or near equivalents and a t60 weapon is not a good reason to choose a region.
It offers nothing for range. For melee, void+defenders+dmace/baxe are way better than a dcim.
For magic, the new staff+mystics is way overshadowed by infinity+tome+wand+ancients.
Of course prioritize fun and content you want to try out, but Kandarin has basically none of that and isn't required for any other raids/bosses.