When you make heroes videos like this, can you please tell us when to pick or when NOT to pick the hero in question? I fell like one of my worst Dota ability is to draft
I always liked to push waves and make people run around the map, but for a really long time I didn't even bother taking a closer look at Dark Seer. It's not picked very often on low ranks because people there just dismiss wave clear and run down mid. Thanks Speed for sharing this.
I'm down in low ranks too, and the number of times I've been told that Dark Seer isn't an Off Laner is way too damn high. Funnily enough, they never say what role they think he actually is. Grossly misunderstood character in low ranks. He's such a good hero and he has one of the best built-in wombo combos in the game, but he doesn't do obvious pew-pew DPS and he isn't a big giga tank, so people think he's bad.
Dark seer is getting me from divine to immortal, im 17-4 on the hero (one of the losses are from an unranked game). It feels so god damn strong, i pick it into any lane and even if i get smacked all i need to do is farm one aura item and take a teamfight
@@mt_fun7403 Tank is a broad term in DOTA and it’s not really neded unlike in league. Carry heroes can easily delete tanks. How to deal with tanks? Ignore them and kill their teammates. A Medusa with her passive can be a tank. A High HP Doom can be a tank, Terrorblade one of the highest base armor in the game can be a tank. But not really. Doom might have High HP but he has low Armor. Medusa is a different case. Terrorblade might have an armor but he has low HP pool. You get the point. Regarding to your comment Dark Seer is always been an offlane hero. He initiates and cause chaos. I remember him being an intelligence attribute and the only intelligence hero being a melee. Next would be Offlane doesnt really have to be Axe, Timber or Tide. Weaver can be an offlane, Enchantress can be an offlane, Nature’s Prophet can be an offlane and Enigma has always been an offlane. With weaver’s shukuchi he can waste enemy resources and time chasing him. Same with Dark Seer’s surge. Back to the tank part, An Untouchable Enchantress can be a tank, or not really. Wasting enemy resources? Have hard time to kill? Make space? Can farm difficult parts of the map? CHAOS 1000? That’s what makes a hero offlane. Initiation is just a bonus.
i usually go bracer manaboots mech heart aghs then finish boots. if it goes late i will get a basher because late game ds attackspeed is wild if you have enough str
Mordigan gives you a ''soul ring'' amount of mana + regen and extra atkspeed. new dark seer great, and with a mordigan it downs T1 and T2 towers very early. Not so good since it lost the slow resist but still worth to try. you can boost hp and mana to initiate then weave out and regen.
ngl this dark seer build seem fun i played dark seer a few days ago but it was the punch build it was fun but i gotta say the most fun i had was the harassing and ruining their carry farm also i like to add a tip if your team m8s are all want to farm and barely show up to fights get a helm dom get a centuare with it so you have a stun and a creep to shell then you can literally go solo kill sups oh btw dont forget to have smoke and wards you can easily pick off any squishy hero and then run off
from the first time i see his innate i know its gonna be absolutely good + his facets imagine dark seer full strength that tanky as fuk but having ridiculous amount mana pool and also attacking really really fast that's some solo bolo shit right there
i still like going aghs blink after greaves/pipe to get pick-offs and carry fights, usually best when your team doesn't have a good initiator and needs the burst damage, or if you're already snowballing
I cant really handle a lost lane with darkseer, its hard to play againist for example a shadow fiend, yesterday i played againist that cancerous hero which dealt to me like 700 dmg (killing me ofc) without wasting any mana with his 3 razers, either he had 3 mangoes or the spell mana cost must be increased
Dark seer one of the easiest heroes to break even in bad matchups. Dark seers only real bad matchups are heroes who can clear wave fast killing his ion shell creeps, like sf as you mentioned , even in this scenario you can still cut creep waves ds is one of the best in the game at cutting waves, and even if you are getting your wave nuked, double ion shell creep wave normally kills most of the wave while you sit in trees sapping solo xp
@@sebastianGunnarson71 its not a bad idea, issue here is that after 2 ion shells ur out of mana XD but anyways gotta try it. Even i lost my lane to sf , he was so bad that at the end i had more exp than him (i lost my game by min 50) its sad how some people are bad players but their heroes are OP as fuck so they easily win. Sf right clicking me with 150 dmg min 5 isnt balanced at all
@@fatperuvian2980if you spend less time looking for excuses you'd improve. SF is strong but nothing you can't handle in lane. Getting hit by three razes in a row is a massive skill issue on your part, not the hero being OP.
I’ve tried a bit of pos1 agi carry darkseer going dif blade, manta, butterfly, disperser. You end up being a very hard hitting carry with a lot of team fight utility.
Bros uploading videos while playing TI qualifiers.
While losing”
why it shows forfeited on their match? anyone knows?
They got beat 2x by Dark Seer too
Yes they got slapped by nouns and with dark seer lol
And why were u hard support speed ? Why not offlane
When you make heroes videos like this, can you please tell us when to pick or when NOT to pick the hero in question? I fell like one of my worst Dota ability is to draft
yes pls
Dont Pick Dark Seer vs Oracle support on the lane as it can dispel your shell, thats pretty much the only major counter in the early game
@@Olinad2006against ench too
dont pick against ls xD
pick dark seer with a meele support and avoid it with heroes that can counter his shield in the lane stage
I always liked to push waves and make people run around the map, but for a really long time I didn't even bother taking a closer look at Dark Seer. It's not picked very often on low ranks because people there just dismiss wave clear and run down mid. Thanks Speed for sharing this.
I'm down in low ranks too, and the number of times I've been told that Dark Seer isn't an Off Laner is way too damn high. Funnily enough, they never say what role they think he actually is.
Grossly misunderstood character in low ranks. He's such a good hero and he has one of the best built-in wombo combos in the game, but he doesn't do obvious pew-pew DPS and he isn't a big giga tank, so people think he's bad.
Dark seer is getting me from divine to immortal, im 17-4 on the hero (one of the losses are from an unranked game). It feels so god damn strong, i pick it into any lane and even if i get smacked all i need to do is farm one aura item and take a teamfight
Only problem is pos 4's in divine have no clue how they should play with a dark seer 3 and most of the time it feels like im laning alone
@@mt_fun7403
Tank is a broad term in DOTA and it’s not really neded unlike in league. Carry heroes can easily delete tanks. How to deal with tanks? Ignore them and kill their teammates.
A Medusa with her passive can be a tank. A High HP Doom can be a tank, Terrorblade one of the highest base armor in the game can be a tank. But not really. Doom might have High HP but he has low Armor. Medusa is a different case. Terrorblade might have an armor but he has low HP pool. You get the point.
Regarding to your comment Dark Seer is always been an offlane hero. He initiates and cause chaos. I remember him being an intelligence attribute and the only intelligence hero being a melee.
Next would be Offlane doesnt really have to be Axe, Timber or Tide. Weaver can be an offlane, Enchantress can be an offlane, Nature’s Prophet can be an offlane and Enigma has always been an offlane.
With weaver’s shukuchi he can waste enemy resources and time chasing him. Same with Dark Seer’s surge. Back to the tank part, An Untouchable Enchantress can be a tank, or not really.
Wasting enemy resources? Have hard time to kill? Make space? Can farm difficult parts of the map? CHAOS 1000? That’s what makes a hero offlane. Initiation is just a bonus.
aren't you playing Ti qulifiers RN?
which player is he?
Same question
@@jotaro7089no one
i usually go bracer manaboots mech heart aghs then finish boots. if it goes late i will get a basher because late game ds attackspeed is wild if you have enough str
I knew dark seer will shine let's fking go
Nouns really though to beat... gl next qualifiers speeed
Mordigan gives you a ''soul ring'' amount of mana + regen and extra atkspeed.
new dark seer great, and with a mordigan it downs T1 and T2 towers very early. Not so good since it lost the slow resist but still worth to try.
you can boost hp and mana to initiate then weave out and regen.
yep been doing that since the new patch. early armlet on ds = stomp
ngl this dark seer build seem fun i played dark seer a few days ago but it was the punch build it was fun but i gotta say the most fun i had was the harassing and ruining their carry farm
also i like to add a tip if your team m8s are all want to farm and barely show up to fights get a helm dom get a centuare with it so you have a stun and a creep to shell then you can literally go solo kill sups oh btw dont forget to have smoke and wards you can easily pick off any squishy hero and then run off
Why would you consider Huskar as a good copy hero? 10:25
It dies hard, and bonus atk speed when hit by AoE spells from enemy
Love dark seer always have. Cool hero.
Do an offlane tierlist pls
Dark seer, Zeus, lesh allowed to be op for like 5 patches in a row but SF not allowed to have an above 50% win rate for 1 patch 😂
Lol sf is 1 ban in most pro games that hero is broken now 🤣
Typical Sf player, malding and crying
They finally fixed the 10% wall of replica talent, now it actually works
from the first time i see his innate i know its gonna be absolutely good + his facets
imagine dark seer full strength that tanky as fuk but having ridiculous amount mana pool and also attacking really really fast
that's some solo bolo shit right there
HI SPEEED
What about agh's? Just wasted money? The stun knockback feels good in a lot of fights.
personally ags is a carry item, i love it , but i only build when for instance pipe is comepletely useless
i still like going aghs blink after greaves/pipe to get pick-offs and carry fights, usually best when your team doesn't have a good initiator and needs the burst damage, or if you're already snowballing
Next letter patch or main patch update shell's CD is gonna get nerfed as well as the percentage values of DS's Facet and/or Crimson Guard
What about shard and aghanim?
Why their team shows forfeited on liquipedia?
Surge is great but if the other team has ranged or heroes u cant get to vacuum is very strong
+65 radius is a must for shell
Heart of battle sound nice but it lower your base M/S.
What’s his team?
i like orchid on him. soul ring is a waste of money, you have tons of mana.
Speeed do a video on pango echo saber
I cant really handle a lost lane with darkseer, its hard to play againist for example a shadow fiend, yesterday i played againist that cancerous hero which dealt to me like 700 dmg (killing me ofc) without wasting any mana with his 3 razers, either he had 3 mangoes or the spell mana cost must be increased
Dark seer one of the easiest heroes to break even in bad matchups. Dark seers only real bad matchups are heroes who can clear wave fast killing his ion shell creeps, like sf as you mentioned , even in this scenario you can still cut creep waves ds is one of the best in the game at cutting waves, and even if you are getting your wave nuked, double ion shell creep wave normally kills most of the wave while you sit in trees sapping solo xp
How are you getting hit by triple raze as dark seer lol? Just surge and run, or just don’t be standing in front of sf in the first place
@@sebastianGunnarson71 this happened cuz i rrcieved a bad call from my support, so i went in aggressibeky thinking he would do smthing buf nope
@@sebastianGunnarson71 its not a bad idea, issue here is that after 2 ion shells ur out of mana XD but anyways gotta try it. Even i lost my lane to sf , he was so bad that at the end i had more exp than him (i lost my game by min 50) its sad how some people are bad players but their heroes are OP as fuck so they easily win. Sf right clicking me with 150 dmg min 5 isnt balanced at all
@@fatperuvian2980if you spend less time looking for excuses you'd improve. SF is strong but nothing you can't handle in lane. Getting hit by three razes in a row is a massive skill issue on your part, not the hero being OP.
finally my favorite hero becomes broken
Normal Punch!
Day 28 of asking speed to play pos 1 Io
Almost Every single day a video.... 4videos since the 7.36 ... 1 video per patch ... Thats not speeeed :D
Harpoon Basher Heart Aghanim gg
What if you max out agility lol
you cannot fool me, that is kunkka outline, you lie to us.
When has dark seer not been a good hero? Like...
I’ve tried a bit of pos1 agi carry darkseer going dif blade, manta, butterfly, disperser. You end up being a very hard hitting carry with a lot of team fight utility.
Strength option for carry is also solid. 500 dmg and 4k hp, not bad at all
Nah i think On carry Harpoon Aggs heart or something is better
@@sonitgorla4125 don't forget the Armlet, it gives you at least a third more damage than fpr a normal strength hero and also increases your mana pool
Please do a necro vid! Or maybe not, people will start playing and banning it more and I'll play it less
Ur playing and building it wrong lol
if you want free mmr as pos 3 pick enigma
Nah garbage utter garbage , team won't play with your Vlads timing relax buddy
Meh. Very meh hero
boring hero