I had this exact game yesterday! Good point about slowing down the game, it's hard wired into my brain to look for kills if I have an early blink timing. Failing that first jump kinda greifs your start and u miss the later timing when enemy core kills themselves on blade mail. Reflecting on ur teams ability to help you score kills is what I bring with me from this video! Thanks!
Totally agree with you about people clumping up. This is why I don't understand smurfs. People just assume they need to group up but they can't even tell why and they just start running down mid or smth like that. The only difference between mmrs is a timing when they start doing it and it feels so dumb.
i liked how he explain about timber item not being the burst type, and the other team member is not hitting early timing and acknowledging that although he knows he is strong he did not feels like its an urget to get into a teamfight jz because he(axe) is on hit his timing
wouldn't treant + pa and axe + np lanes be way better in this case? also slowing the pace of the game is nice because you are the one with the bkb piercing stun. After the lvl 12 the next true powerspike in terms of dmg comes at lvl 20(lvl 18 is ok, but lvl 20 is what you want) what I really wonder on axe is when to get phase when to get travels and when to get mana boots. Usually I just leave it at brown boots and don't think about it too much, but I think there can be good value in mana and phase boots, I just need to figure out how to tell quickly when to go for those boots.
I go mana boots especially againts qop and veno so i can get lotus build up For phase boots i buy it againts ursa ta pa heroes that shred you when u have low armor Travels is when enemy is constantly pushijg
I new a guy in 2016 who boosted accounts up until 7kmmr and he always laughed at people buying battlefury since he was a clinkz player and he'd just have enemy carry killed 9 minutes in with Aquila+ brown boots+ medallion. No upgrading medallion just go for Desolator. Everyone just dies in 2 seconds when it's only 9 minutes into the game. Tried it out myself and it was shocking how easy it was to play mid. Having shadow fiend against me was an autowin.
killing the 30 second creep spawn as fast you can then running back stacking the triangle, normally i attack the range creep once and then having your passive killing the entire rest of the creep wave. using battle hunger to stack makes it easier before you have phase boots. lvl 30 axe but legend. normally i have highest net worth during first 30 min of the game then i have made so much space for my carry that they get number one. just patience in the mid game sitting in one of the sidelanes and waiting for your chance to jump a core.
@@shinysonny7733 every min 30 since you wanna be at the triangel at every min .53. So to be Most efficiant you have to aggro the creep wave as fast as you can, hit the Range creep once then run and make a doublestack. Then clear it our just repeat
It is hard but when you get countered in lane when you meet those heroes but it can go both ways. You just have to be more carefull. Slark you can spin on even through ulti, mk you have to go on before he build up his stacks/ use his q on you and the creep wave, ursa you have too build your blade mail before the blink to use his dmg against him. It is hard to explain it is more of an instinct thing but just play a bit more defensive and pick your moment to strike
Main axe player here with over 3k games on Axe. The thing about axe vs. Ursa/ Mk or Slark is: you trade better with level 3 than they do (considering there are some creeps around and you're not fully countered by their support like AA is ugly) Now, if that is the case you regularly walk into the creepwave when they're up for a cs. Click on them for harass. You will draw aggro and in best case scenario get spins. Walk about after 1 or 2 spins. Get early boots. Now repeat that. You' ll harass the shit out of them, thus winning the lane. I win most my Ursa or Mk lanes. Slark is harder because he heals up from fighting you. But the process is the same. If its really good lane, start cutting them. Squishys like slark or am will hate it. If its a bad lane cut it too, but go between t2 or further away. Because then their carry cant help the support or has to lose the gold form your wave being under his first tower. If you do this in a bad lane and you have a decent 4 or support, call them maybe with a smoke. Since their carry wont come, but their support will, you can now 2on1 him to get extra level and gold. After you did that succesfully, it depends. Maybe go jungle and slow the game or try ganking. Oh yes and keep an eye when cutting on their mid. Its the one that can kill you really
High skill mmr: Axe forces 2 tps and the team takes out 1 of them. Meanwhile in 3k, my allies patiently wait for everyone to finish their tps and then FLOOD the jungle.
Guys can you help me out here as I want to practice axe.. why is some people buying Sange and Kaya to axe? I understand the Sange but does Kaya amplify the counter helix and culling as I believe it didn't since those are pure damages. but correct me if I'm wrong. thank you!
@@glp-vv3wh almost y'all missed the "absolute free game" part i guess. we were dominating and it's a one sided game. can give u match ID if u want lmaooo. never said everyone should go arcane blink as if it's a standard build did i?
@@joellloren5491 hell nah. i did it cuz im having a free game, roaming the whole map not even caring about creeps im just looking for kills. so my mana is always almost empty so i thought of buying arcane blink
last night i was 1k ahead of the spectre at minute 5 and 2k ahead at minute 10 3k ahead of the closest core on the enemy team at 20 and somehow my team still throws the game with dumb ass decisions remained top net worth entire game except for a short period around the 30 minute mark. but my team does shit like the 1 thinking he is the reason we are winning fights so trying to 1v4 . while the rest of us agree to go rosh. buying back for no reason and then feeding a dieback etc.
Some ax tricks - 3x Ring of protect adds 60% damage to Battle Hunger. Manta farms fast like Naga. 300 gpm. Shard works on manta illusions (Ursa couldn’t kill my illusions). Aghs makes BH insane. Spell steal is best neutral. Call tugging is very effective with aghs (call run, repeat). Ult should be skipped.
Reason why team fighting heroes suck at low MMR is they die easily to likes of PA and Sky... You don't get a good time to use your OP ult or team doesn't follow up..
I am not sure "DESTROY ANY LANE" can relate or anybody can relate to this show how you destroy drow + cm or ursa + lich or mk + grimstroke lane with axe you are just lucky to be axe against 2 melee its tusk's fault to get a greedy support instead of normal pos 5 hero he is completely useless and sven with the blind 3rd - 4th picks offlaners and safelaners don't see each others so he wouldn't pick sven against axe definitely if he knew it you won't show the feeding game gameplay and analyze it on UA-cam just like gambling and showcasing when you win the gamble so sad
I had this exact game yesterday! Good point about slowing down the game, it's hard wired into my brain to look for kills if I have an early blink timing. Failing that first jump kinda greifs your start and u miss the later timing when enemy core kills themselves on blade mail. Reflecting on ur teams ability to help you score kills is what I bring with me from this video! Thanks!
Totally agree with you about people clumping up. This is why I don't understand smurfs. People just assume they need to group up but they can't even tell why and they just start running down mid or smth like that. The only difference between mmrs is a timing when they start doing it and it feels so dumb.
i liked how he explain about timber item not being the burst type, and the other team member is not hitting early timing and acknowledging that although he knows he is strong he did not feels like its an urget to get into a teamfight jz because he(axe) is on hit his timing
It would be cool if u do a video on how to get the most out of a replay or how be better at replay review and improve
wouldn't treant + pa and axe + np lanes be way better in this case?
also slowing the pace of the game is nice because you are the one with the bkb piercing stun. After the lvl 12 the next true powerspike in terms of dmg comes at lvl 20(lvl 18 is ok, but lvl 20 is what you want)
what I really wonder on axe is when to get phase when to get travels and when to get mana boots. Usually I just leave it at brown boots and don't think about it too much, but I think there can be good value in mana and phase boots, I just need to figure out how to tell quickly when to go for those boots.
I go mana boots especially againts qop and veno so i can get lotus build up
For phase boots i buy it againts ursa ta pa heroes that shred you when u have low armor
Travels is when enemy is constantly pushijg
I also get manaboots, when I face a lot of mananurn. Your team will in this case also be happy to have another pair of arcane boots.
Yeah I go mana boots if I will build quick lotus and travels if not
That's a good play there on laning not killing but making them low to the point that they don't want hit the creeps
So farm jungle until PA scales and then let him kill everyone. Got it, great guide on Axe.
I new a guy in 2016 who boosted accounts up until 7kmmr and he always laughed at people buying battlefury since he was a clinkz player and he'd just have enemy carry killed 9 minutes in with Aquila+ brown boots+ medallion. No upgrading medallion just go for Desolator. Everyone just dies in 2 seconds when it's only 9 minutes into the game. Tried it out myself and it was shocking how easy it was to play mid. Having shadow fiend against me was an autowin.
killing the 30 second creep spawn as fast you can then running back stacking the triangle, normally i attack the range creep once and then having your passive killing the entire rest of the creep wave. using battle hunger to stack makes it easier before you have phase boots. lvl 30 axe but legend. normally i have highest net worth during first 30 min of the game then i have made so much space for my carry that they get number one. just patience in the mid game sitting in one of the sidelanes and waiting for your chance to jump a core.
What's the timing to stack both camps at triangle? I keep fucking it up as bristleback
@@kylemac8672 hit the hard camp at :52-53 then run to stack the ancient
Which 30second spawn and from where on the lane?
@@shinysonny7733 every min 30 since you wanna be at the triangel at every min .53. So to be Most efficiant you have to aggro the creep wave as fast as you can, hit the Range creep once then run and make a doublestack. Then clear it our just repeat
@@kylemac8672 yea hit the ancient or hard camp at. 53 and use your q on bristle or your w on axe on the other camp
I need Axe vs Slark/ MK/ Ursa or any range hero.
To be honest Axe vs a meele hero is not a big deal.
2 melees
It is hard but when you get countered in lane when you meet those heroes but it can go both ways. You just have to be more carefull. Slark you can spin on even through ulti, mk you have to go on before he build up his stacks/ use his q on you and the creep wave, ursa you have too build your blade mail before the blink to use his dmg against him. It is hard to explain it is more of an instinct thing but just play a bit more defensive and pick your moment to strike
Axe is pretty good Vs slark imo
Main axe player here with over 3k games on Axe. The thing about axe vs. Ursa/ Mk or Slark is: you trade better with level 3 than they do (considering there are some creeps around and you're not fully countered by their support like AA is ugly)
Now, if that is the case you regularly walk into the creepwave when they're up for a cs. Click on them for harass. You will draw aggro and in best case scenario get spins. Walk about after 1 or 2 spins. Get early boots. Now repeat that. You' ll harass the shit out of them, thus winning the lane. I win most my Ursa or Mk lanes. Slark is harder because he heals up from fighting you. But the process is the same. If its really good lane, start cutting them. Squishys like slark or am will hate it. If its a bad lane cut it too, but go between t2 or further away. Because then their carry cant help the support or has to lose the gold form your wave being under his first tower.
If you do this in a bad lane and you have a decent 4 or support, call them maybe with a smoke. Since their carry wont come, but their support will, you can now 2on1 him to get extra level and gold. After you did that succesfully, it depends. Maybe go jungle and slow the game or try ganking. Oh yes and keep an eye when cutting on their mid. Its the one that can kill you really
High skill mmr: Axe forces 2 tps and the team takes out 1 of them.
Meanwhile in 3k, my allies patiently wait for everyone to finish their tps and then FLOOD the jungle.
People love the jungle in low mmr.
For axe players I have question, could you give me a good tip for dunk timing. I usually overestimate or underestimate enemy hp and mess up ult time
Click them and look at their hp
The hp bar is divided by 250 per bar. You can just estimate it base on that.
U can click on them and look at the hp but if they have greaves or mechanism its kinda unreliable but it is how it is.
@@mrpetty6066 I didn't understand this point what do you mean divided into bars. I see a single HP bar, no breaks or division
@@ishandiablo the green bar above the hero.
yo speed! can u do different lane content every week? from pos 1 to 5
Maybe another video when you are facing range heroes? To eat for axe against 2 melee
This is what content should be!
I mean in the vid Axe went vs 2 melee so it's not actually that crazy though
Yo speed! Aren't you streaming anymore?
I wanna see you play live!
Guys can you help me out here as I want to practice axe.. why is some people buying Sange and Kaya to axe? I understand the Sange but does Kaya amplify the counter helix and culling as I believe it didn't since those are pure damages. but correct me if I'm wrong. thank you!
It increases dmg, ucan press alt while hovering on skill description
If ure having an absolute free game as axe try rushing arcane blink and ur mana problems will be gone
Is arcane blink better than buying octarine core?
Rushing arcane blink is griefing. There's cheaper and better items like Octarine, Kaya Sange and Aghs if you need mana.
The easiest throw of one’s life
@@glp-vv3wh almost y'all missed the "absolute free game" part i guess. we were dominating and it's a one sided game. can give u match ID if u want lmaooo. never said everyone should go arcane blink as if it's a standard build did i?
@@joellloren5491 hell nah. i did it cuz im having a free game, roaming the whole map not even caring about creeps im just looking for kills. so my mana is always almost empty so i thought of buying arcane blink
Do you know his profile on Dotabuff?
last night i was 1k ahead of the spectre at minute 5 and 2k ahead at minute 10 3k ahead of the closest core on the enemy team at 20 and somehow my team still throws the game with dumb ass decisions remained top net worth entire game except for a short period around the 30 minute mark. but my team does shit like the 1 thinking he is the reason we are winning fights so trying to 1v4 . while the rest of us agree to go rosh. buying back for no reason and then feeding a dieback etc.
That just regular axe teammates...
"I said G'day sir!"
Bro im sucks cause i use axe and i think i have so many mistake btw first time to use axe
title is misleading, you are showing one of the easiest lane matchups for axe, show some your lane skills vs drow+lich or mk+grim ;)
Axe got spammed after this😏
OG young thugga
Some ax tricks - 3x Ring of protect adds 60% damage to Battle Hunger.
Manta farms fast like Naga. 300 gpm.
Shard works on manta illusions (Ursa couldn’t kill my illusions).
Aghs makes BH insane.
Spell steal is best neutral. Call tugging is very effective with aghs (call run, repeat).
Ult should be skipped.
Reason why team fighting heroes suck at low MMR is they die easily to likes of PA and Sky... You don't get a good time to use your OP ult or team doesn't follow up..
Why did u pick axe in this draft?
To win
I am not sure "DESTROY ANY LANE" can relate or anybody can relate to this
show how you destroy drow + cm or ursa + lich or mk + grimstroke lane with axe
you are just lucky to be axe against 2 melee
its tusk's fault to get a greedy support instead of normal pos 5 hero
he is completely useless
and sven with the blind 3rd - 4th picks offlaners and safelaners don't see each others so he wouldn't pick sven against axe definitely if he knew it
you won't show the feeding game gameplay and analyze it on UA-cam
just like gambling and showcasing when you win the gamble
so sad
Thoird😂
Soecond
Foith😂
You win one game on a hero and make a video like a kid
foirst
20th
Sixth
Do want play someone with me dota ?
I have nobody who play😢
7338163810 i played this match as PA i want you to analize what could have done better in the lanning phase as i died 7 times
thanks speed🥹