The Problem With The NBA's New Basketball
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2023
- The NBA has a new basketball and it’s airless, but it could break the NBA. #nba
This is the NBA’s new basketball and it’s airless which means you never have to pump it cause it’s full of holes, but players have a history with ball changes not going so well, causing airballs, anger, and bleeding so what’s the big deal about this new futuristic looking basketball that looks like it can’t be used outdoors and why does the NBA want to risk all that again? We’re going to find out because this basketball might break the NBA and how we play basketball forever. The answer might surprise you since the NBA’s basketball has changed a lot through the years, from a a soccer ball in 1881 to the full grain leather Spalding basketball in 1983. Most recently the NBA changed the ball in 2021 and in the beginning of the season, players were missing shots badly…
The basketball stayed the same material. When the NBA last changed materials, there was an even worse reaction but let’s understand what this new basketball is made of because these new ones are going to be 3D printed out of an elastomeric polymer, basically something similar in molecular structure to natural rubbers. The ball still has the 8 panels like a traditional basketball, including seams, but oh yeah, it has hexagonal holes.
The biggest challenge was for it to bounce similar to other basketballs. The way current basketballs work, when a basketball makes contract with the ground, it compresses which pushes against the air inside the ball. The air pushes back against the ground depending on the level of air pressure and the ball bounces back up.
But without air pressure, these new basketballs are more like those small bouncy balls, when the ball hits the ground, the polymer chains in rubber uncoil and straighten kind of like a spring which causes the ball to bounce back up. Wilson took several years to find the right material that gives a consistent bounce similar to current basketballs. The main advantage of this type of basketball is that you don’t have to worry about a basketball deflating or popping.
According to Wilson, they have rigorously tested the basketball, including swinging at the ball with a baseball bat, ensuring that the basketball is durable, but they are hoping to avoid the mistakes that happened 17 years ago. The last time the NBA made a change so drastic using science was in 2006. The NBA changed from leather to microfiber composite and it broke the NBA. They also stated that these new basketballs would remove the break in period a basketball needs, but just 1 month into the season, players already had some things to say like Shaq who said “it feels like one of those cheap balls you buy at the store” and that whoever did this needs to be fired. MVP Steve Nash said “it tears his fingers apart”. LeBron rival Deshawn Stevenson said “I HATE IT”.
NBA’s best shooter at the time Ray Allen said “I have to constantly put lotion all over my hands because my fingers are cracking and it’s causing splits on my fingertips”. Wait, from a basketball?And he wasn’t the only one. Jason Terry showed reporters what looked like paper cuts on their fingers, Dirk said it made his hands bleed. Eddy Curry said it stuck to his middle finger.
Mark Cuban, the owner of the Dallas Mavericks, wasn’t convinced by the NBA saying the ball was performing extraordinarily well and commissioned physicists from the University of Texas to test the ball and what he found proved the NBA was lying. The Cross Traxxion ball retained more frictive dirt and was slippier when it absorbed any moisture like sweat, but perhaps the worst of it all, they found the ball bounced 5-8% less than the old one, and was 30% more erratic in how it bounced.
Certain shot release angles means different velocities of the ball on it’s descent, essentially the slower a ball hits the rim, the softer the touch. Think those Nikola Jokic floaters and hooks shots around the rim. But if these new balls will have different velocities in the air due to smaller surface area and less air resistance, then players will also have to modify their shots to get that same soft touch.
Which leads to my third issue, dirt and sweat can get deposited inside the basketball and change the play of the ball over time. It could make air flow through the ball a bit different, the ball a bit more lopsided even the slightest because of that lattice structure with holes, related to my 4th issue, how will the elastic polymers lattice pattern impact grip? With less surface area, less contact points for your fingers, and in an NBA game, every small percentage plays a role. I mean we’ve seen players not be able to pick up the ball ****************************and that could get worse. Does this mean we’re going to see more turnovers? - Спорт
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Why did you not mention its just a prototype and no plans to be used in the NBA and Wilson said it would still require "a lot of work".
Seems that's important and took me 30 sec of research.
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@@laartwork He did mention that 7:44
If something ain’t broke don’t fix it
So true
But doesn't mean it can't be improved 🤷🏾♂️
Could be cheaper to make and charge the same amount or more which is the goal of capitalism
I imagine the amount of work hours it takes to pump the basketball for 81 games. For 30 teams so it's probably worth the cost saving. 3d printing also saves on manufacturing cost so that's even more cost savings.
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Wilson is keen to make sure that everyone knows this is just a prototype, noting that "there will be no changes made to the Wilson NBA official game ball." The company added that it will continue to be built from the same leather materials and using the same panel configuration that everyone is so familiar with.
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Ofcourse, but you have titles, thumbnails and even videos misleading everything for view....id love to have black&white balls like that at home on my shelf
7:44
DO people just comment without watching?
@the_algorithm. Why would he lie for 7 minutes through the video? And why are you supporting a communist terrorist organization that are closer to fascists then anyone else today?
Wondered if this was clickbait
Im not an aerodynamic engineer but I think this design will create quite a bit more drag then a regular ball. It creates tons of turbulence instead of just displacing the air. Also there is no Magnus effect so it wont float as well. Look it up.
How does a thing with holes create more drag than a thing without holes?
@@FAQUERETERMAX more surface area to drag against. The more surface area something has the more drag it will have as well.
@nightwolf7231 the exterior of the ball where most air resistance actually is has less surface area
@@FAQUERETERMAX But when something has holes on it especially all over you have to count the interior surface area as well since air will travel through it. and unlike the smooth drag that affects a regular basketball it will have a turbulent flow that introduces a type of skin friction drag across more of the ball as well as reducing the maximum rotational speed after every single rotation much faster than a normal ball. So pretty much overall the holes in the ball means more surface area and a massive increase to drag.
@nightwolf7231 but air can escape anywhere so even with turbulent flow the drag inside the ball would be much less compared to how much less air resistance is at the exterior of the ball. Man flow physics is so complicated and counterintuitive
It reminds me of the whiffle balls back when I was in grade school, which were designed to NOT go far. Those holes vastly increase surface area, which makes drag. Who else noticed that when the manufacturer showed their ball being thrown to a basket, they never showed the actual throw? I suspect this ball will behave in ways the players won't like.
I was gonna say when he mentioned air resistance. Because air's gonna pass through this ball and get caught inside it like a washing machine there's gonna be more drag and it'll significantly affect the ball's flight. And I can only imagine how those holes are gonna feel on your finger tips after practice or late in a game. I have golf club grips that have managed to chew through most of the skin on finger tips during a round so I can't imagine how you won't have players complaining about that.
It's not the new ball, it never was the new ball and they've said this is only a rough prototype in a long development cycle. A cycle that nobody has even said will definitely lead to a new ball except for all these bait tubers spreading nonsense. This is all bs and marketing.
You should learn about the magnus effect. Golf ball have between 300 to 500 dimples that increas their surface area and yet they twice has far as a same ball with no dimples and they go more strait.
I just saw this and also immediately thought giant whiffle ball. I am fully expecting to see passes that curve through the air. But don’t worry it acts just like a regular basketball!
@@joepark1678On the other hand, imagine what the game might be like if you COULD curve passes and shots.
I don't ever think I've heard anyone say, 'You know basketball would be way better with a wiffle ball.'
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Think of the awesome curve passes that can be made the length of the court, Plus bouncing does not really matter, heck they usually take 4 or 5 steps to the hoop with out ever dribbling.. lol I am just kidding around..
This is the one 🤣
I think this all has to do with the climate change agenda. They want to eliminate dirty nasty farting cows from the planet. Thus leather becoming a thing of the past.
Wilson announced there'll be options of Air Pro and Air Pro Max soon. Upgrades include internal drone adaptor to greatly improve your shooting percentages from 94 ft. Now everyone can shoot Steffortlessly.
For those who prefer a more traditional feel without tech upgrades, they also have a new lineup called Tom Hanks Wilsons. You can even bring it to the beach.
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Excellent! That improves on my prototype ball containing a strong magnet that will automagically attract the ball to the rim. 🏀
@@ChuloDavidcito or repels it to clank every time!
Gae! That's my way of saying well done. That was pretty creative.
They call it improvement but as long this remaind sport. This is pure cheating. This smell of everyone is winner. When everyone is equal. There is no competition. Therefore, making it boring.
I'm not sure about the airflow decreasing resistance...air flowing into the ball and past the holes on the sides perpendicular to the direction of travel could have all kinds of weird effects. I mean the DIMPLES on the current ball have an effect...just like on a golf ball. I doubt this will fly...pardon the pun.
Same effect as a wiffle ball, it will slow it down (which is what you want for wiffle ball, making a safer form of a toy baseball for really young kids.
It doesn't have less air resistance because of the holes. That is a foolish assumption.
@@dozerthecatsame with thinking that more surface arean will increas drag. Golf balm have 300-500 dimples and go twice has far as a normal ball.
@@JamesDM4 yes. It depends on the boundary layer of air created by the surface. A race car may benefit from smooth laminar flow while a golf ball creates a small turbulent boundary layer that ends up being more slippery. Fluid mechanics are tricky.
You cant get any lift from a ball riddled with holes, just like you cant get any lift from a plane whos wings are riddled with holes. The magnus effect is very strict on that regard.
A massive case of don't try to fix things that aint broke
I was under the assumption that the surface would be covered like a normal basketball, and the black structure would be used under the normal exterior of a basketball.
I see you're a man of logic and reason, unlike the inventors and investors of the "ball" in question.
@@ricardoroman7511 Main Idea from the company was: We have to stay in line with technology, when everything evolves, you better keep evolving too, but for sport it often isnt as easy... imagine Mountainbikes, they evolved a lot since 2000... and because they get better, its a good evolution, but for instance the tyres are still rubber with air in them, because it would be useless to change that... did they try? Yes, was it a success? No, was the company modern and using technology? Yes! SO it is evolving, ans showing that they are modern, but the sport itself doesnt evolve.
Nothing beats those old school leather plush indoor only basketballs. It gave you such a feel and finesse.
All they have to do is use the airless ball as a base and wrap it in the same material they use now then you have the perfect airless ball.
Yes
might add extra weight to it and make it bounce even less, or a even more sporadic bounce pattern idk tho
if its wrapped then the air wont travel through it and now is… the exact same as a flat basketball… 🤦♂️ slow take
@CJ808GoStupid are you slow the point people are complaining about is that this new ball is similar but not exact if you wrap the airless ball like a regular basketball then you have a ball that doesn't require inflation and is always consistent.
@@TH3N0N4M3d no mate your slow… because if the ball is wrapped how does the ball have air to go through it to bounce. i want you 2 really think about it deeply this time
Click bait…NBA has zero plans to use this ball.
Everyone in the NBA gonna lose a finger if these airless balls do become a thing
them guys are so big with such big fingers i doubt thatll happen
Plus they'd probably put leather over it
Dwight getting excited over spraying stickums on these balls.
Read your bible! (KJV, preferably) ❤️
plus its 3D printed.. how long, realistically can 3D filament last being constantly tossed around and bounced? They're going to break after a few games.
there’s no way this could be a good thing. having holes will completely change the aerodynamics and with that shooting is not at all the same
Good maybe it won’t be a absolute 3 point shooting contest every game
@Connor629 stop complaining and play better defense 🤷♂️
@@YaO_MeaN defend these balls in your mouth
Or it could make no difference. It's easy to test, just launch it with the same speed and angle and see how it flies. Guarantee that's what they're already doing. It's very possible that aerodynamics have way less impact on shooting than we're assuming
surely you know more about aerodynamics than the engineers who designed the ball!
NBA is being dumb that ball has no weight to it. All those holes flying through the air The players are going to be missing a lot more if they use this ball
Yeah but eventually, they'll stop missing. That's not that of a big deal.
The lack of air resistance is a big deal. Air resistance causes the ball to fall more sharply than the angle that it was thrown at, meaning it is easier to make it go through the hoop. If it's coming in at a flatter angle, then there will be more misses and it feels like luck will be a bigger factor which is bad for the sport. More practically, for the kids that buy this ball and inevitably use it outside, it seems like there is a strong possibility of it picking up stones and pebbles of the right size to not quite be able to get out of through the holes that it entered the ball, which could damage the ball and cause a safety hazard like getting flicked up into someone's eye.
Some things in life don't need to change. Keep it the way it is.
Yes, because auto racing from 1910 is way more exciting and safer than it is today. While we're at it, we should still use soccer balls and an actual basket. Let's also not dribble the ball, because in the early days of basketball, once a player got the ball, they had to stay in that spot, until they passed it to someone else. You should read the rules of early basketball, and you'll be grateful the sport changed over time. I get what you're saying. Not all change is for the better. And if something is going to be changed, it should benefit the sport more than hinders it, but change by itself is not a bad thing.
This was a material science experiment. This douche saying its the NEW ball was BS and you've been taken in by it.
Just use the Wilson evolution indoors ball, literally the best ball there is and the NBA makes it seem like it's such a hard thing to change
Agreed the evolution is the standard. I’ve never known a hooper that didn’t prefer it. I always thought Spaldings weren’t soft enough and tougher to grip
@@derriccontreras6351 in my high school at paramus catholic if you didn’t have a Wilson Evo you would get laughed at. I always wondered why the NBA would ever use anything else, that ball is the absolute perfect basketball product for indoor basketball. They tryna come out with this like “airless ball” thing too it looks so garbage.
@@blquasar Pumping balls increases climate change they would say.
@@blquasarI hate that ball. Everyone loves it though at pickup games.
Wilson evo has a big flaw .. when your hands get sweaty it gets very slippery .. the Baden elite is also a superior ball to the evo and it also gets very slippery with sweat. That is why the leather ball they use is superior to composite balls like evo .. the nba ball gets better with sweaty hands it grips really well
I remember when the first deep grooved balls came out around 1980 or so. Wilson and Spalding both made them, with the Spalding ball becoming the official NBA ball around 83/84. I hated those balls because the deep grooves messed up my grip and feel for the ball. I had grown up using the Wilson Jet ball, and it was a great ball. I could feel that ball well and the grip was good. Some people liked the deep grooved balls more because they could palm (grab and hold it via the deep ridges) them easier.
Anyway... this new space age ball looks like a train wreck waiting to happen. But I'm just being old fashioned I guess.
Your not wrong
Of course, you are right...but, we all adapted.
I think it’s a cool idea to make the balls more accessible to people around the world that may not have access to traditional basketballs, but it seems totally unnecessary for the NBA to use these
Dirt getting in the holes make it so indoor only and require very clean environment. Doesn’t seem helpful around the world
Why would you think this would be more "accessible" than a regular ball, of which there are millions of in the world?
@@mechadeka The exact same ball would be more accessible. Sure, there are millions of basketballs, but only a fraction of them are the tournament standard wilsons, which is apparently a big deal. Since it's 3D printable the exact same model can be made pretty much anywhere without sacrificing quality
@@mechadeka its more accessible coz it has more holes 😂
@@user-zz3sn8ky7z Well you'd probably need their 'special' 3d material. Plus in the video they used laser additive manufacturing, which is the most expensive type costing at least $10,000 for the machine. The tournament standard wilson ball is $200 and a regular one is $50. So the only people able to afford making the ball would be the people who need dozens of tournament balls.
When you start messing with something that works, the odds are overwhelming that you're going to make it worse, not better.
I disagree, for two reasons:
1) It's not like they're actually using this yet. It's a prototype. It's still in development. It's quite likely that if they can get feedback from actual players who have actually played with it, they can continue to improve it.
2) "Works" is a complicated concept. It sounds like the goal is, and has been for some time, to replace a mass-produced item that currently uses leather, which is unsustainable, and can sometimes pop, which could be dangerous.
"Because this is the way it's always been done," is NEVER a good reason to not look for ways to improve it.
Why would you change the color from orange - top 3 more visible colors to black - number 1 LEAST visible color? Assists would go down if they made this the NBA ball.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
They should just go back to the OG leather balls.
Of course it's not going to be the same. It's going to move through the air differently, it's going to be less bouncy, it's going to be more stiff, and it's going to feel different in the hands. If players don't like it in the off season, then they need to cancel it before the regular season.
Chill, it won't be implemented this year. The new ball is still in the testing phase. Wilson themselves confirmed it. They said it'll take a few more years and the current version will be the same leather with the same pattern.
@@prajwalkrishnabhat5539that's still doesn't change the fact that the aerodynamics of the ball will 100% change
@@Akniy yea i know. But we also don't need to act like it's already gonna implement it literally next year. Heck, it might never be implemented so just give it time to cook and put the pitchforks down for now.
Why? Wilson doesn't need to cancel an R&D project just because some pros don't like the early prototypes.
That ball doesn't seem to bounce like any air filled one. It's unaaceptable in my opinion. Especially on the NBA level
it literally does though
"doesn't seem" "no i haven't tried it"
nah the ball is on the same level as the NBA, complete trash.
You spend all your time on training building muscle memory to be able to perform a task better than 99% of the population just for the company you work for to change it rendering all that time and effort you put it wasted. Typical corporate shit.
Still need to go back to Spalding. The feeling and control in the hand has still not been matched by Wilson.
decision go airless is not a bad idea if they can calibrate ball's responses properly (weight, bounce, elasticity to touch etc). but i think it should be better with without the holes, because it changes the aerodynamics drastically and the feeling will be completely different, thus it won't be a nice transition curve from old to new.
Change the aerodynamics? If the ball is rotating the holes are far to small to make it displace the ball. That's like saying you will crash on a highway if you roll your window down lol
@@1WithTheDark i assumed that it will also be produced to be sold to the consumers, after it's accepted and becomes the new standard ball in NBA. And people will wanna use it outside, too. And there is wind outside, holes aren't small enough not to be affected by the wind. To be honest, what they use in league doesn't matter to me, what my future ball looks like matters to me. If this is strictly gonna be used in NBA matches, and nowhere else, and they won't try to implement this design to the products which will be sold to customers, then i don't care, they can use whatever they like :)
@@1WithTheDark On an object as small and light as a basketball, small changes in aerodynamics like that can have very noticeable effects on how it behaves in the air. The thing that comes to my mind is how the holes would interact with the Magnus effect (lifting force generated on solid spinning objects in air or liquids) when the ball is thrown. I'm no expert by any means, but my assumption is that the holes might reduce the Magnus effect and cause the ball not to 'float' as much as a solid one when thrown.
This new ball would be so weird to play in cause a little bit of your finger tips will go through the ball which will affect your shot and ball
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The main issue will be that the aerodynamics will be completely different. Everyone will need to retrain their shooting, dribbling and passing.
@@momentary_ both are very valid statements
AIR. . . . Bro I feel like the best shooters in the league should absolutely be apart of this change. . . Or it really doesn't make sense
As pointed out with previous blunders, NBA players put quite a bit of force when passing the ball. When they catch a pass their hands / palms absorb a lot of that force. This ball with so many edges when compressed during a catch can easily apply undo force on the palm (possibly causing cuts). They need to test these things with real NBA players passing it at high speeds to fully grasp how comfortable it is.
WOW ! Old school basketball players. Hmmmmm? A car wash near my place had an old school washing system, and you could see about 95% of the equipment due to the huge windows on the side of the building. But then came the NEW SCHOOL version. It was soo compact that you could not see the equipment at all. it was mostly hidden behind that small area below the huge windows, and the rest was now underground. Now, thanks to it being a "NEW SCHOOL" version, cars hardly ever showed up at all, all due to it now looking like a completely empty building. After about a year and a half, they removed the new and thus improved "NEW SCHOOL" version and replaced it with the good old OLD SCHOOL version type. Cars were soon back to normal busy visits once again.
Thank you MJ2K for the great take! This is typical incompetance for people who hurry for change before thinking! AIR
Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?- Vaas Montenegro.
A ball with a bunch of holes in it...which genius invented this?
The moment I saw it first bounce "once", I knew it didn't bounce or behave like an actual basketball. One way to "possibly" fix this, is to coat that framework with a rubber skin. That might help with air resistance, compression rebound and energy loss, closing up the holes to prevent buildup of particulates and sweat, and you can even give the rubber skin a small bumpy texture like a normal ball to keep a similar feel for handling.
In the end though, just keep normal basketballs as they are. This is another instance of someone trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.
Magnets in the basketballs confirmed
Why do they have to change the ball anyway?
This ball looks like an aerodynamic nightmare.
Lol the Duke Dennis "ain't no way boi" 😂
I’m a day one fan! Its so cool to see how much u grown
there are millions of holes, the moment you shoot the dynamics and the trajectory of that ball is going to change instantly, add some spin and that's going to be a horrible shot. imagine shooting that ball with millions of holes coming in and out of that thing, while spinning.... that's a sight that everyone wants to see...😂😂😂
Dude you’re killing it with the vids, keep it up :)
Curry is gonna pick that ball up 1 time. Then put it down and go home 😂
I do not agree to the point where you claim the air would be traveling through the ball.
In floorball we also play a hollow ball with holes and the air does NOT travel through the ball. Only if you use unique shooting techniques, can you force it. But as long as the ball is rotating, it works great.
What I agree on anyway with you: if you play outdoors and your pitch is not perfectly clean, only from dribbling you will collect rocks with the ball, and you will never be able to get them out of the ball. It looks like this ball is only designed for the most elite level.
You mean the sport meant to be played indoors with hockey-looking pads and a tennis ball-sized ball? And also, that ball has a lot less hole than the Wilson's ball
@@jacaredosvudu1638 such an idiotic comment, floorball ball has much bigger holes compared to the overall size of the ball XD it hurt my brain reading your comment, you wanted to dunk but just embarrassed yourself
I think the NBA wants a cheaper ball, that's why it's been in the works for around 7 years with more to come. I don't think it will work that well outdoors and it will need to be cleaned regularly.
That’s pathetic really. People paying hundreds for a single seat and 60 bucks for a ball is too pricy
The current ones are like $25. How much cheaper can you go?
I can't imagine the NBA is worried about shaving 10 bucks off the cost of a game ball. It's marketing.
@@Fit3d even shaving off ten dollars is millions upon millions in savings overall
@@nightwolf7231 How? Do they go through millions of basketballs per year?
It would be cool for outdoor, cause it wouldnt curve as much when theres wind, but its the only thing that would be better
0:03 "airless" 🤣
I kinda want this ball but I feel like it’d be expensive. Plus, it probably won’t work outdoors so..
bounce and air resistance really will be different. that is just basic science. the longer the shot, the bigger the difference.
Though it might produce more air resistance with the holes since it makes the air turbulent more savior, covering the outer surface of the boney structure with a soft skin would solve the most problems. Whilst replacing the air cushion with the bounciness of the spring-like structure.
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Overstated - that was all from ONE change to the ball to a new "supposedly better" covering that WAS NOT WIDELY TESTED before it was used in the NBA.
What if you get a rock stuck in there
Leave it to the NBA to think the basketball isn’t good enough
I suspect the air inside the hall is an essential component for retaining elasticity. Not only that, but the air resistance probably slowly it down as it passes through the “mesh”. Maybe if the exterior was similar… it would be better?
One thing to note, the wholes reducing the grip is not necessarily true because sure it's less surface area touching the hand, but it's also like the hand is gripping multiple ledges, so if anything, grip should increase.
When you shoot, the fingertips contact the surface of the ball to impart spin. If the surface has big discontinuities in it, then you will get different spin. I am just waiting for a player who is reaching for a steal a bit late to jam his finger into the ball and get it stuck. I expect injuries, lower shooting percentages, and more turnovers.
The wind resistance seems like the biggest difference to me. Why wouldn’t this thing act more like a wiffleball and move erratically in the air? It seems to have the exact same shape 🤷♂️
Weight, and wiffle balls only have holes on one side.
@@bpdmf2798 wouldn’t it still experience wind resistance very differently? It’s can have force applied against the inner surface now
Yep - air resistance would be the biggest thing here.
It's like you have some kind of force with air pushing back but taking that away and having a lot of micro holes i wonder how long it's going to last lol
Spin on the ball, is not only good for how it acts when it hits the floor on a bounce and when it hits the front or back of the rim but also helps keep a consistent flight path. Air is not consistently dense from one inch to the next and having a spinning ball can combat that by creating a consistent friction that gives it a consistent path from one shot to the next. If this new design has less friction in the air, the spin won't get as much consistent force through the air and has a chance to have a slight knuckleball effect you get from having no rotation at all.
One of the indoor baseball stadiums used to blow air out of the field when the home team was up and blow air back in to the field when the away team was up. I bet that happens with basketball now.
You can't do that in basketball as the possession changes every few seconds. It's not like baseball.
@@cedricduyongco If a team is up by a good amount putting on the air would make it harder for the losing team to hit 3's and make a comeback.
@@skiprockjr.6881 I get your point. But the thing with basketball is the ball is being dribbled/passed/shot by 10 different players in a span of minutes. A slight decrease or increase in pressure and you can immediately tell. Trust me, me and my friends play recreational basketball weekly and when the ball is slightly over or under pressure we could immediately tell just by dribbling alone.
The new ball is literally less affected by air.
a solution to a no existent problem
Bro i started watching ur videos td and their sooo adicting
Im subbbed now
0:03 I see what you did there 😂😂
Players will expend more energy just trying to dribble the ball on the ground because of it’s natural lack of bounce compared to the current balls. That will make them tire out faster (especially the guards) and the shots won’t fall in as much due to difference in air resistance indoors. Expect lower scoring games, more turnovers and more fatigued players in the late third and fourth quarters.
They won’t implement this until they get everything the same as a normal basketball
Good on the fatigued players. They whine too much as it is. Play ice hockey and you have to go go go without stop. You swap players out while play is ongoing to deal with fatigue. Any other sport crying about fatigue, just needs to put in more stamina training and less strength training.
My biggest problem with changing a basketball this drastically is that its gonna mean everyone needs to buy them now if they become official
yup its a money scheme
it's also going to change the physics though. If air goes through the ball versus around it, it will totally change 3s.
@@Fit3dif that stops every team from chucking up 3s all game it might be a good thing
And that was the main point, for certain its patented, wont see any replacement, other than original one.. manufactured by Willson :)
@@Fit3d agreed unless they make it slightly heavier than a regular basketball which would save its ability to fly through the air.
Can i have you sign my ball?
"Sorry... can't do it anymore. "
Great detailed video about the basketballs and their complete effectiveness on the game
The problem is it's not a basketball
Isn't it just going to curve like a wiffle ball?
There's no possible way to avoid that if the ball has so much more surface area
"There's no possible way.." you're speaking in absolutes
@@andrewn7256 because facts are like that
It prob wont literally hurt the players like the microfiber ball did, but just the fact it has holes will completely change how it interacts with the air. It will change how shooting works, it will bounce differently, etc. Prob will get thrown out since the players will have to relearn how they do most of their moves, and the NBA is way more about their star players than any other sport.
It might honestly be more resistive to air since there is more friction points for air to move past vs a bounding layer like the old basketball...
If they made the core of the ball like this so that teams can’t do shennanigans with inflating the ball Patriots style but kept the outer shell the same this would make sense.
This thing’s gonna change direction 5 times and fly around the board when you shoot a 3 pointer
It will be interesting to see and play with. As with all experimental prototypes, you never know until you try. Lets have the pros use them and tell us what they think. I haven't played basketball in years, but I'm looking forward to getting one of these for myself when it's available for purchase.
what’s the song at the end of the video ??
my thoughts were for outside. it gets wet and now you have an unpredictable ever changing amount of mass as water gets collected and falls off.
Like in the old saying we all know and love: "if it ain't broke, brake it and then try to fix it"
I'm going to buy you a proverb book. That sounds like. People in glass house sink ships.
What kind of brake pads should I use on the ball? I used Wagner first, maybe I should have used Bosch.
What about the coreolus (sp?) Effect? Will putting backspin on the ball cause it to rise when shot? Or putting 'side english' cause it to curve in the air? It may change the game more dramatically than anticipated without extensive testing.
Should actually cause less variation bc of air flow. Air will flow thru rather than acting on the ball, so it should fly straighter
@@koskism9181 I get where you are coming from, I am just thinking that with actual holes in the surface, it increases the total surface area that can be affected by air flow
@@scotthodgins7975 didnt think about that. i would love to see a test video comparing the two balls
@koskism9181 totally agree. A proper test of both balls side by side would be needed.
The air resistance is a minimal factor because the ball is spinning and pushing the air around the ball and that air creates a cushioning effect for the new air being introduced.
Might be good for schools where they may have many basketballs to keep pressurized plus new ones could be 3d printed when needed.
The reality is that every "disaster" with a new ball has actually been massively overblown. The new balls weren't actually worse statistically in either case you presented. I believe Mark Cuban's study was p-hacked as well, they tested a bunch of factors and chose to present the ones that supported the idea he wanted to push. Not saying the 3d printed ball is game-worthy today, but it's very likely that it's not going to feel very different to shoot indoors, and I'd imagine the biggest difference would be in the feel of the surface rather than the aerodynamics or bouncing.
That was the weirdest place to throw in your intro lol
I imagine there's a bit less air resistance with that ball
I'm really not sure about this ball but... I don't see this happening with FIFA and FIFA ball changes have been pretty constant and major, basically every year. Sure they use feet not hands which are much less sensitive however... Shouldn't NBA players practice with all sorts of different balls? If you rotate the balls used on the training court, shouldn't that solve the problem?? I understand it can throw you off, but I just think that, if I was an NBA pro, I'd get a bunch of Spaldings, Wilson and even other brands to practice and adapt myself to the ball. It sucks that they change it for no real reason but it's also part of marketing in pro sports. They can't treat it like it's a personal item like a racket or something.
I see your point with them being professionals and all, but I don’t think your thought process is very logical. In any other field this wouldn’t be the case. Nobody is going to ask an infantryman to drive a tank, or a tank operator to fly a plane. Nobody’s going to swap an accountant’s PC for a Mac, and expect identical results. Nobody’s gonna swap a construction worker’s hammer for a sledge, etc. You train with the tool specific to your trade, and become proficient in it. Changing the tool out with something that operates fundamentally different, or performs completely different, isn’t going to work. Practicing on multiple platforms will inherently diminish your proficiency on the primary tool of use. Kind of like Hick’s Law. Too many options, even if they’re all good ones, can make things worse simply by having too many rather than fewer options one can perform incredibly well.
Classic management - changes tools they don't even use without asking the people that use them and claims the new ones are absolutely better.
What was even the problem with the old one? Sustainability? Making more plastic doesn't sound more sustainable. Airless? Is deflation or having to pump it that much of a problem? Uniformity? I somehow doubt that mass-manufacturing will ensure such uniformity that will outweigh the negatives.
Look how bad they are without the magnets lol
Love at the start of the video when you shows a clip and said airless but i just see "A🏀SS"
It might make a way better football. Just make the holes more tight, or surface area way more so it has enough resistance for a spiral. To be honest, the football can be better
That's an interesting idea. I wonder if they are talking to the NFL as well.
Leather is completely “sustainable” and renewable, as it’s a natural byproduct of beef. The inner rubber bladder is also sustainable and renewable.
Of course, maybe the “anti-beef” consortium is the true driver of this new ball technology.
My real question is what happens when a player misses badly with one of these new 🏀s…
Does the crowd start chanting “Hollow Ball”?
Extremely well put together video. Never thought I'd get so into sports 💀💀💀💀💀💀
I honestly want that ball for just friendly play cause its easier to get ready and no need to fear pops
Another issue to note is that because its full of holes it will slow down very quickly and wont beable to go very far, like how a wiffle ball does
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When basketball started we had a peach basket and a medicine ball. In 100 years we might have a holographic hoop and a weird ping pong like ball. Change is just part of being human.
They should make a rogue lite nba where you don't know what ball you're gonna get.😂
Fixing what isn't broken has become too popular.
ayyeee I actually got first again😌 hopefully he won't delete this video too😂
What about the holes in the ball itself won't that mess up the players jump shots when using the ball?
I suspect what's Wilson's strategy: They'll cover the holes in "Gen 2" in order to avoid the dirt accumulation inside and some problems related to air flows through the ball when it's shot.
7:17 travelling. Anyways in my mind i find it will be bad for outdoor as i can somehow see wind affecting the ball when sailing through the air