@@marionauno8850 i think what he means is that in 1997 they used 3.0 litre v10s which revved from roughly 15,500 - 16,500 rpm so even though the engine was developed in 04 and 05 with the restrictions and all that it was basically a 97 engine
The restricted V-10 was initially for Minardi for 2006 but when Red Bull bought the team which became Scuderia Toro Rosso and is now Alpha Tauri, they used those engines and they had more low end torque than the 2.4 liter V8's which kept Toro Rosso near the points scoring positions that year
2006 was such a bizzarre year. Toro Rosso with a limited V10 engine, the Super Aguri with a 2002 car adapted to the 2006 rules... Happy I lived that era.
Let's not forget Midland running a revised Jordan from 2005, which was a simple evolution of the 2004 car, which itself was just the 2003 car revised. Basically a 3 years old design which was uncompetitive from the beginning, and it kept going another 2 more years as Spyker and Force India... good times :D
Fula Samam Yes.......2006 is the death year of the v10s. V10s in 2006 sounds like it’s going to die....look! It’s in the formula 1 championship edition game on the ps3! Why?!?!?!?!? The toro rosso str1 doesn’t sound as beautiful as the Ferrari f2004 there ever was meant to be. I can’t do it. It makes me cry so much for the dead engine. The end of the V10 F1 cars’ life until 2006. My favorite: Ferrari F2004. My personal saddest v10 car I’ve ever heard: The Scuderia Toro Rosso STR1. I’m sorry for the V10s loss. Rest In Peace. Since 2006.
To be fair the V6 is also kind of restricted. In theory those could rev up to 15000 RPM but they rarely go beyond 12000 due to fuel flow restrictions. It's not like a V6 could ever sound better than this V10 but if they took out the turbo from the V6 and let it rev to over 15000 they would sound miles better too.
This was the case of MotoGP in 2002. Some teams use 990cc engines while others use 499cc engines that's from previous year's regulations. And it sounded differently between 990cc and 499cc. I found out this when playing MotoGP 2 game.
Cbr 3 The cars were too boring in my opinion. Not as boring as when all the cars started to have the same engines (3.0L V10, 2.4L V8 and 1.6L Turbo V6 respectively), but at least they are faster and made some face melting lap times (I know I'm too young and it's a childish argument, but that's not my problem). To me, the best year of F1 of all time was 1986, but I've always said that the V8 era from 2006-2013 is how F1 cars should sound like (because I started watching gameplay of F1 2012 when I was 9 years old, and played it when I was 10)
Cbr 3 And also, the Ferrari you mentioned wasn't the last Flat 12. Subaru made a Flat 12 for F1 in the 90's but the engine was so unreliable and underpowered that the engine has never been raced
You can really hear the rev limit on that V-10, so much more power in there they werent allowed to tap into that year (but only fair when everyone else had 2 less cylinders).
@@naufalthirafi3876 Someone who has skill, but doesn't use it that often. Also someone who doesn't practice enough and mostly rely on his given talent.
Liuzzi Scored the teams first point at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and speed thought he scored his own point in Australia only to get his first point taken away from him for overtaking DC under a yellow flag
James Lewis It was originally done as an incentive to help Minardi survive financially. It was then taken up as Torro Rosso took the assets and grid entry of Minardi.
NASCAR24JG Hell no. Even five-six laps in F1 games are enough for me to remember the layout. Do you think that an F1 driver wouldn’t get it by the race after all these laps in the practice sessions? There must be some other explanation.
Nah, these drivers knew these tracks 100 percent. They know all the bumps, braking points and what lines and curbs to use. That map must just be like for what Rokas said.
By the regulations you need to have the map of the track in the car. Also, it helps driver and engineers during sessions when they talk about the performance of the car in some corners.
That's because it is. Every other team had V8 engines due to the new rules starting in 2006. Toro rosso's V10 therefore was rev limited to match the v8's
Refueling would have to be brought back as H2 gas isn't very containable, and Miles/Per Litre of Hydrogen gas would be low Bare in mind Combusting Hydrogen produces its own problems
Liked, F1 should have made diverse engines from the beginning and not just one type of engine per season but V6 V8 V8 and V12 like it was in the 90s and in car racing, what's the problem?!?!
@@agustinmaleh9360 Toro Rosso had no financial problems. The reason they had a V10 in the first place was because of Minardi. Towards the end of 2005, because of Minardi's financial problems, the FIA allowed them to use their V10 from 2005, but to have it rev limited to about 17k, to make sure they had no power advantage. And since Red Bull bought Minardi's assetts and team entry, they were allowed to use V10s.
The fact they were using essentially a 1997 engine against the V8s amazes me
The Cosworth TJ engine was developed in 2004/2005
@@marionauno8850 i think what he means is that in 1997 they used 3.0 litre v10s which revved from roughly 15,500 - 16,500 rpm so even though the engine was developed in 04 and 05 with the restrictions and all that it was basically a 97 engine
@@rickysimoes2304 Ahh i see I'm sorry
@@marionauno8850 all good
@@rickysimoes2304 that was actually thought quite progressively 😀👍🏼
The restricted V-10 was initially for Minardi for 2006 but when Red Bull bought the team which became Scuderia Toro Rosso and is now Alpha Tauri, they used those engines and they had more low end torque than the 2.4 liter V8's which kept Toro Rosso near the points scoring positions that year
Chris Foster not really, all the weight with none of the power
What was their 'advantage' exactly?
@@tygobermind3640 cheap. Because they could use an old engine
@@maltekocks9557 That's not an advantage. Their car was shit.
And it wasn't a loophole either. There was an exception made for them because otherwise they did not have enough money to complete the season.
F1 2006 for PS3 really got the engine sounds accurate
I agree, also the mclaren and Renault engine sounds... So realistics in this game
I tried the PS3 F1 2006 demo in 2016 (thus without nostalgia glasses!) and I was surprised with how GOOD this game was
@@kerimca98 Codemaster ruined F1 games..
For PS2 either
what about the championship edition, i had it
2006 was such a bizzarre year. Toro Rosso with a limited V10 engine, the Super Aguri with a 2002 car adapted to the 2006 rules... Happy I lived that era.
Let's not forget Midland running a revised Jordan from 2005, which was a simple evolution of the 2004 car, which itself was just the 2003 car revised. Basically a 3 years old design which was uncompetitive from the beginning, and it kept going another 2 more years as Spyker and Force India... good times :D
The last f1 car to use V10s 😭😭
Fula Samam Yes.......2006 is the death year of the v10s. V10s in 2006 sounds like it’s going to die....look! It’s in the formula 1 championship edition game on the ps3! Why?!?!?!?!? The toro rosso str1 doesn’t sound as beautiful as the Ferrari f2004 there ever was meant to be. I can’t do it. It makes me cry so much for the dead engine. The end of the V10 F1 cars’ life until 2006. My favorite:
Ferrari F2004.
My personal saddest v10 car I’ve ever heard:
The Scuderia Toro Rosso STR1.
I’m sorry for the V10s loss.
Rest In Peace. Since 2006.
You are fucking right
2006 cars had V8s.
But whit toro rossa has v10
And other team v8?
Martellifra03 Channel because they are too poor to build a new engine
imagine if they let them race with the unrestricted 19k rpm,would have been impossible to hear the v8s in the holy screaming of that engine
@jameswheeler5025 I mean the V8s could rev up to 20,000 rpm so
Would have been unfair, much faster than V8 cars 😅😂 last formula 1 V10s had around 950 HP while the V8s "only" 750
Actually the V8s are Way way louder than the V10s
0:18 WOW!!! right tyre.... :O :O
That was very common in 2006 with michelin tyres
"Bono..."
Basically a Red Bull RB1 with a power restrictor
*Minardi PS05 with a power restrictor
Scuderia Kasey Dixon no. It was the RB1 fit for the 06 regulations.
@@Ben_Mayall What? But I thought Red Bull bought Minardi and turned the team into Toro Rosso.
Scuderia Kasey Dixon yes but red bull gave Toro Rosso their RB1 Chassis with the changes to fit the 06 regulations.
Ben Mayall red bull came into F1 in 2005 Toro Rosso in 2006
even a v10 engine being held back sounds miles better than a v6.
To be fair the V6 is also kind of restricted. In theory those could rev up to 15000 RPM but they rarely go beyond 12000 due to fuel flow restrictions. It's not like a V6 could ever sound better than this V10 but if they took out the turbo from the V6 and let it rev to over 15000 they would sound miles better too.
@valentinvas6454 true that if it was fully unleashed it would sound like the x2010
today I learned this toro Rosso raced a V10 in the beginning of the V8 era I came to hear the difference in sounds, it sounds like glory
The sad lost sound of f1 v10
Ayrton Senna Oh no! I’m crying now. Like I listen to the whole song of Arms Around You by
XXXTentacion.
Rip X (since 2018)
And Rip V10. (Since 2006)
Thats a V8
@@nordimejia5790 no thats a v10
@@lujh3177 but it doesnt sound like v10 .
Ден С
It’s a V10 but downgraded to match the V8’s
I like how there's a track map on the steering wheel.
It had been toned down to meet the power output of the V8's i believe, correct me if i'm wrong.
I really miss the V10's
Limited to 16000 Rpm I think. 16500 for Qualifying.
Tom _F1_ 17k in fact, like the cars from 1999
lolol mm2 I remember seeing at indy that it hit the limiter at like 16,550
@@GiacomoMilianti I think it was either 16.5 or 17k
so 16.5 would put it at around 750hp,no?
The best livery from the 2006 season!
RoiDesP in my opinion, this team got the best livery of the season since 2006
The BMW is nice too
@@KaoruSF yes guy
And the beautiful Blue Renault cars!
And we dont talk about the 2006 mclaren?
V10s always sounded good, this was kinda like a throwback to the mid to late 90s
I liked when everyone had different engine layouts.
This was the case of MotoGP in 2002. Some teams use 990cc engines while others use 499cc engines that's from previous year's regulations. And it sounded differently between 990cc and 499cc.
I found out this when playing MotoGP 2 game.
@@r.a.6459 the 990cc engine was a 4 banger 4 stroke, the 500cc was also a 4 banger but in this case it was 2 stroke
This car traction control sound is so good.
It's very similar to the case of the 1995 Ferrari. It was the last of the V12s before everyone moved to V10s
what about the ferrari 312T5
Cbr 3 It's not the last V12, There were many V12 after it, 15 years after that but still.
And i think 70's F1 sucked compared to the 80's and 90's F1
But it was the last flat 12 in formula one to ever been used. Second, why the hell do you despise formula one in the 70s
Cbr 3 The cars were too boring in my opinion. Not as boring as when all the cars started to have the same engines (3.0L V10, 2.4L V8 and 1.6L Turbo V6 respectively), but at least they are faster and made some face melting lap times (I know I'm too young and it's a childish argument, but that's not my problem).
To me, the best year of F1 of all time was 1986, but I've always said that the V8 era from 2006-2013 is how F1 cars should sound like (because I started watching gameplay of F1 2012 when I was 9 years old, and played it when I was 10)
Cbr 3 And also, the Ferrari you mentioned wasn't the last Flat 12. Subaru made a Flat 12 for F1 in the 90's but the engine was so unreliable and underpowered that the engine has never been raced
This reminds me of winning on Formula one Championship Edition in career mode 😁
Francesco Urso yes. I played this game so much this year.
You can really hear the rev limit on that V-10, so much more power in there they werent allowed to tap into that year (but only fair when everyone else had 2 less cylinders).
This is a beautiful V8- no wait that's a V10
Dear Barney Ward,
You're an absolutely babe for all these uploads!
Chilling lap in Silverstone and Albert Park 😨
Nürburgring Nordschleife Well this was Liuzzi the lazy talent. Much like Heinz-Harald Frenzen or Ginacarlo Fisichella.
200LiterKopter Yesssss
200LiterKopter LoL
@@200LKRetro what do you mean by lazy talent?
@@naufalthirafi3876 Someone who has skill, but doesn't use it that often. Also someone who doesn't practice enough and mostly rely on his given talent.
Great sound, i love it !!!
I really miss these engines :'c
that's a pretty good drive in Silverstone
The noise is just sad, it wants to go faster and be louder but it cant :(
V10 with rev limiter so sad :(
Excellent upload! : D
So beautiful sound, comparing to actual V6 hybrid engine ......
when you pitch shift it 2 +2, it sounds like the V10 from 2004
this v10 engine sounded very close to the v10 engines from 97
That’s because it’s rev limited to 16.5k to make it have similar horsepower to the V8’s everyone else were using.
0:20 Look at the right front tyre how is vibrating.
bono my tyres are gone
Bono my tires are groovin
Ether it’s because of bad tire balance or low pressure
Look son, a legend tyres
The sound of that V10 sounds like its crying for mercy, wishing not to be replaced by F1 regularions, but sadly it had to pass away...
Liuzzi Scored the teams first point at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and speed thought he scored his own point in Australia only to get his first point taken away from him for overtaking DC under a yellow flag
Beauty sound - V 10 engine the best! 2nd onboard - OMG I loved
This was not a loophole. They plain let them join with that engine. It's a limited RPM 2005 design if i remember
James Lewis It was originally done as an incentive to help Minardi survive financially. It was then taken up as Torro Rosso took the assets and grid entry of Minardi.
For some strange reason, they added a picture of the track layout on the wheel at every GP. Its purpose still baffles me to this day.
NASCAR24JG Hell no. Even five-six laps in F1 games are enough for me to remember the layout. Do you think that an F1 driver wouldn’t get it by the race after all these laps in the practice sessions? There must be some other explanation.
Nah, these drivers knew these tracks 100 percent. They know all the bumps, braking points and what lines and curbs to use. That map must just be like for what Rokas said.
By the regulations you need to have the map of the track in the car. Also, it helps driver and engineers during sessions when they talk about the performance of the car in some corners.
Shame that this was not a Minardi anymore 😭
Because Red Bull bought Minardi at the end of 2005 season, and built a new team called Toro Rosso (which is now called Alpha Tauri).
@@r.a.6459 Yeah i know, but i would be happy if we saw a Minardi victory with Vettel or Gasly 😏☺️
V10’s were awesome
In Jani's helmet I found the Malaysia flag he is swiss
I miss the sound of the V10 😭😭
You mean V8s, this is a V8
No. It's a V10.
@@nordimejia5790 It is a V10 engine with limited RPM and 2 cylinders disabled
@@fagnerroberto3618 Whaaaat 2 cylinders disabled?
How come it's allowed to rev up to just 17k rpm?
@@fagnerroberto3618so its a glorified V8?
Silverstone as it should be today
V10❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
The last dance of V10 engines in F1 🏎️😢
That tyre flex 😬
Can't forget liuzzi
What was the front wheels doing at 0:20
Why did onboard audio always skip in the 2006 timeframe? this started in the onboards in 2006 in many videos.
David Holcomb Because the teams started using digital onboard cameras about that time.
Because they move the mic every grand prix
What team tech was weirder the minardi or minardi 2.0 also known as toro Rosso 2006
What was the cause back then to swtich to V8 instead of V10?
reduce speeds , lower costs
@@siniyden What a load of BS.
And also to stop Ferrari dominance and benefit a British team (McLaren)
@@opper4325 even though Alonso & Renault had won the final year the V10s were ran for the whole grid...
The real sound of F1
in 2005 was the real sound . This engine doesnt sound better than v8s of this year
@Lilly Evensburgh . V12 V10 . Just the sound
@@siniydenV8 > rev limited V10 fax
In gieasinf the onboard of Scott speed and one with Neel Jani
Sauber 2000 sound v10
RBR Ferrari 2006 coming soon?
Why was this the only car on the 2006 grid with a v10?
too broke to build new V8 car that time
Toro Rosso 2006 can't fund for V8 engine development so it used a loophole and allowed to use a V10 engine with a RPM restriction.
What would Alonso or Schumacher have done with that V10 limited to 16,500 rpm? Would they have won a race??
I sleep to this every night 🗿
Seemed like it was well down on power.
That's because it is. Every other team had V8 engines due to the new rules starting in 2006. Toro rosso's V10 therefore was rev limited to match the v8's
It was not down on power, In fact It had more power (914hp)
The reason why its slow because it lacks Top end Torque, and It has Intake restrictors
Last F1 car with V10 engine 🥺
What a scary tire wobble
That was completely normal for Michelin tyres in 2006
@@GECKOZFTW I'm saying it's scary not abnormal.
@@samoahbay Don't get me wrong it's not confidence inspiring, but for the Michelin tyres this was normal
3.0 L NA V10 hydrogen hybrid for 2021
Refueling would have to be brought back as H2 gas isn't very containable, and Miles/Per Litre of Hydrogen gas would be low
Bare in mind Combusting Hydrogen produces its own problems
this is just a V10 hitting puberty lol
V10 V8 V6
V10😍
Liked, F1 should have made diverse engines from the beginning and not just one type of engine per season but V6 V8 V8 and V12 like it was in the 90s and in car racing, what's the problem?!?!
Forza !
Real formula 1, not some ecological parodies.
this like gp2 for now on low rpm xdd
Toro rosso use Ferrari engine in 2006?
Cosworth
Top speed of this car?
Sounds like Francesco from Cars
Just like same FERRARI F2001 V10 Engine Sound
Driver with different gloves
Last V10 engine
V6 is beneath F1. What is the world coming to? Not the gladiator sport i remember anymore. No roar, no sport.
I think toro rosso never use v10 engine
is real last v10 man
They used V10 but limited in revolutions so that there would be no advantage due to lack of budget.
@@agustinmaleh9360 Toro Rosso had no financial problems. The reason they had a V10 in the first place was because of Minardi. Towards the end of 2005, because of Minardi's financial problems, the FIA allowed them to use their V10 from 2005, but to have it rev limited to about 17k, to make sure they had no power advantage. And since Red Bull bought Minardi's assetts and team entry, they were allowed to use V10s.
The Black The v10 died in 2006.
@@GECKOZFTWthey didnt had enough money to buy the v8
Revs turned down.
Low-rev like the 1999 Arrows engine...
Millenium Exactly.
After the v10 it became boring 😢😫
Nürburgring Nordschleife after 1995 it became boring
After 2012 it became boring. There hasn't been a more exciting season since then or 2010.
@@GECKOZFTW 2013 you mean
@@darth_autie_117 No. 2013 was dominated by Red Bull.
@@GECKOZFTW o I thought you meant it was boring as in when the Hybrid turbo 6es came
minarldi
Dannel phineas f1 team sauberia toro rosso