Check Lenovo LOQ Prices: geni.us/mBbpWlp Update: the specs at 1:04 should list the RTX 4060 as 115W as the max power limit, not 140W. Though, it doesn't really matter in games anyway due to Nvidia's voltage limit.
@@neutralprofit7699I’d say the loq cause the processor is better and you have dlss 3 with the 4060, but if the 3070 ti has higher tdp then maybe the nitro is better🤷♂️
Great review as always. One thing I would suggest to improve subsequent reviews, is to comment on heat-sink fan disassembly. For some models, like my lenovo legion, it is impossible to remove top cover from the fans, which in turn, makes it really hard to clean, even when there is light to moderate dust. Intel version of the same laptop heat-sink has tiny screws instead, that enable fans for easy disassembly and cleaning.
@@JarrodsTech Hopefully it comes soon. So many people waiting objective review about it. Has potential for another laptop of the year, unless there's something wrong.
Probably not, we're quite limited by the plugin we chose to handle the table. Basically the way it calculates the prices on the backend to work out the % off ends up making it a text value so a simple sort by descending doesn't work. As for specs, they aren't separate fields either, it's just one string of text, so that would need multiple fields which I think would make it more confusing to work with. You can just type in a key spec in the search box, like "3060" though. We would like to sort price, but depends on future updates to the plugin, or if we move away from it.
Last 3 years 2060 and 3060 were around 1200eur and 070s were from 1700euro , now 4080 cost from almost 3000euro and 4070 and 4060 from 1700 to 2000euro. Sad to see that it's not so affordable as it used to be , I've still got 2060 legion 5 no issues ( edit I've bought it at 1200 euro ) and I'm playing on my lg TV at qhd windowed maxed at around 50 to 60 most of the time , but 4k is critical at 40 , for example new the last of us is 40fps plus at qhd med details
If you want to buy a 40 series Laptop. I think just buy the best Cheapest one. Per Jarrod's testing an 80-90 watt 4060 performs almost the Same as 140 watt version. Other than 4060 dont even Considered buying anything else in the 40 series. Maybe a discounted 3070ti Laptop if Last gen is Fine. The Asus Strix with 6800m also goes for like $1200 USD Which I am currently Using.
@@TuboDymoManas you say an overall package there is better deal for 1300(strix g16)you can get a new gen i7-13650hx which is much better than the 12th in terms of efficiency and temperatures , a 4060 which is only 5-8%slower toa a fully powered 140w 4070(yours is 4070@105w which is slower than a 4060) plus 4060 is literally the same as 3070ti BUT with a lower tdp of 40w plus lower temps 15-20c lower not to mention the Strix g16 tri fan cooling and build quality nothing even comes close in that price to perfromance range .
@@youngheart777 There was also a AMD 6900HX with 6850M XT graphics for 1,000 USD Alienware laptop. No DLSS but the virtual ram makes up for it and is definitely more future proof. Wait for AMD. The AMD 7950 XT for desktops are at 1.000USD and it performs better than the 1.600USD 4090. If AMD doesn't do the same thing has limiting their own mobile graphics, we're likely to see AMD to out price and perform this Gen.t here was also a AMD 6900HX with 6850M XT graphics for 1,000 USD Alienware laptop. No DLSS but the virtual ram makes up for it and is definitely more future proof.
I have the LOQ 15 with the rtx 3050, this is easily the best budget gaming pc. Easily runs titles like Phasmophobia on high graphics and COD MW2 on medium setting. Love this laptop to death
Hi, your videos on the LOQ laptops really helped me find the best value for my money. I picked up the LOQ 15 Ryzen 5 RTX 4050 early this year and it's absolutely amazing. Although because where I live in South East Asia, prices are quite high (for reference, the version that I bought probably costs around 1000 USD and that's the cheapest that I could find anywhere) and the 16 inch version still isn't available until now. But so far I've been enjoying my laptop. Thank you for your research and testing that you have done in all of your videos.
Great review, really gives the viewer a well-informed description for both models. Right about the price-point against performance, might even be better to buy top tier 2021 models. That 2242 stand-off should be removable, hehehe. Thanks for this review.
I was a fan of my Legion 5 3060, so I got the LOQ 15" 4050 i7 as my work laptop. Compared to the Legion, it looks a little flashier but I found that the recessed rear ports prevent stubby dongles from getting caught when shoving it in a backpack. You mention you weren't able to get it to charge on a 100W charger, but mine charges just fine - though this may be a matter of hardware, the brick mine came with is a smaller 170W as well. Personally, it's been great for work where I only need to do heavy processing about once a week
@@nou1534 I'd say go with whichever one offers a better GPU. I never use all of the ports offered on the L5, and although the 165hz screen is nice, it'll eventually become overkill as more demanding games arrive in the future. the L5 does feel a little more "premium", but that's just a subjective thing and it's not something you'll notice unless you actually deal with them on a daily basis
I'm coming from the Legion 5 Ryzen 5800H with an RTX 3050 Ti to the LOQ 15 i7 13620H and RTX 4050. The Legion is by far a more premium feeling machine and has a very nice screen, but the bang for buck of the LOQ is pretty hard to deny, especially when you can pick one up for AU $1400, that is just insane. My only criticism of the LOQ so far is the fact I can't enable XMP because getting into the advanced bios seems to be near impossible, if anyone has found a way I'd love to know!
Idk which one to choose I found loq and legion for about the same price. Only the loq has 1440p while the legion has 1080p and also the loq has 4050 vs the 3050 of the legion. What exactly is legion better at? How is it almost the same price?
@@FantasticKruH Have you compared other aspects like display FPS and color accuracy? Also, I think the 4050 on 1440p probably performs about the same as a 3050 on 1080p, so personally i'd go for the LOQ. it's worth noting the QHD display probably uses more power than the FHD, so consider battery life vs display quality.
How’s the gaming performance for high quality games like Baldur’s gate 3 or fps? I’m looking to buy the same but wasn’t sure. Also if you 3D modelling like blender how is it too?
@@charzandergaming9422 the gaming performance is great. But i have not run buldurs gate. I only played Rocket league League of legends. Obviously maxed out at qhd. The only graphic intesive game i played is red dead redemption 2. At medium settings at qhd it looked amazing Honestly. Around 90 fps. Other stuff like Thermals, noise and buillt quality are great.
@@charzandergaming9422gaming on lenovo loq is pretty decent can get u like 50 to 60 fps at high graphics and for 3d modelling and stuff this laptop is the best the one I am buying has a i7 processor so make sure to buy processor more than i7 or i7 for 3d modelling and animation
Thank you for posting these videos, your recommendations are spot on. Was looking for a gaming laptop and found the correct model and then I purchase it. I checked the website again afterwards and that particular configuration was sold out. Thank you for being clear and precise.
Hi Jarrod. On saturday finally i decided to buy legion 5i pro 3070ti. Its much cheaper than the 4060 or 4070 version. Thank you for your videos it definitely helped me to choose what to purchase. More power!
Go for it mate. Mine is working perfectly fine even with AAA games at high res. RT is a downside cuz it will make your fps go down hard due to only 8gb vram...... But overall is a great machine.
@@felipepizzin thank you yes i already made up my mind. Its expensive though but i was thinking of the 3 yrs warranty and 3 yrs accidental damage protection. Also the freebies like gaming monitor and motorized table. Sweet deal but after that im broke ahahaha
The only reason I prefer Legion is for the 99-100% sRGB screen, I need it on a gaming laptop cuz I like to game and I'm a graphic design student so colors are important Before I continue with the vid I hope LOQ have a high percentage color gamut
Hey, Jarrod. Big fan of the channel. I would just like to point out that there's a small error in the displayed laptop specs at 1:05; the storage is listed as PCIE Gen 3 SSD when it should be Gen 4. You ofc say that it's Gen 4 in the storage speed section of the video, so you don't have to worry about it. I just thought you'd like to know.
I am somebody who intends to buy one laptop on sale when Black Friday is coming, this review is amazing, has a time stamp, and different from other reviews, also talks about some problems instead of just making good comments and misleading the consumers. Thanks a lot!
@@JarrodsTech I bought the LOQ 16 with the gtx 4060, 16 gigs ram, really happy with the purchase, it was $990 which seemed really awesome, used your website and coupon code, thanks a ton
I asked for this review a couple videos back, thanks! But I ended up going with the Legion 5i 12700H/3060, as it was listed for 1099, with the infamous 300w powerbrick (thing is humongos). Hope it holds up to the newer models..
16:37 It's interesting how small the difference is between 4060 and 4070. Makes me want to see a full comparison between the two in more games. Nvidia's current laptop GPUs are quite the mess in my opinion. I wish AMD had shown up to the competition, instead we just get what Nvidia has to sell and for whatever price they choose.
@@sonicboy678 i don't know if this is the right english word, altought it has this meaning. TSMC is the biggest semi conductor company today, and NVidia, Intel, Qualcomm, AMD, Apple, and others use their fabs. TSMC can only put so much silicon at a given time, and those companies that use the fabs need to reserve it long before they will actually need it. Zen4 uses 4/5nm fabs, Apple usually reserves up to 100% of the fabs some months. AMD just focus on what will give then more profit since they can't do as much as they would like.
I just bought a 16 after watching a bunch of your other videos, so this review is giving me some confidence that I won't regret buying. Thank you for being so thorough!
My IdeaPad has an advanced BIOS with way more information that I know. Anything from RAM timing, CPU power configuration, fan control to temperature tracker. I don't know if the LOQ can let you enter it the same way but holding Fn, R and N at the same time with Fn, R and N pressed alone two times after that gets me to the BIOS.
Just bought the 16 inch version with the same specs from the video for ~ 1000 euros. It’s not the best laptop, but for this price you can’t complain. With the new features from the 40xx generation fps is not an issue and you can run any game at a lower noice level. So would recommend to buy a 4060 all the time
@@zrATT_ I mean there a laptops with better display, CPU and GPU out there. But overall its fine and for this money its actually good. If i would game more then my 6-8h a week i would go maybe for a laptop with a miniLED and a 4080 GPU, but thats normally like 1500 Euro more. For some casual gaming its more then ok.
@@jpergen absolutely not, although the plastic below the screen has a weirdy kinda gloe on it? it reflects some of the white from the keyboard. I don't think it's melted plastic, but it's a small annoyance you could find big.
I just ordered the LOQ 15IRH8 for US$ 1180 a few days ago and I was constantly questioning myself if I should have spent that extra for the 16". Thanks to your review, I feel better now 😃. This was a fixed specs unit so I couldn't customise it because I had a ceiling budget of US$ 1200. Tell me honestly if this was worth the buy: Intel® Core™ i7-13620H Processor 15.6" WQHD (2560 x 1440), IPS, Anti-Glare, G-Sync, Non-Touch, 100% sRGB, 350 Nits, 165Hz 16 GB (2x 8 GB) SO-DIMM DDR5 5200MHz 512 GB SSD M.2 2242 PCIe Gen4/4 3 Year Premium Care NVIDIA GeForce® RTX™ 4050 6GB GDDR6 4 Cell, 60Wh No Fingerprint Reader Keyboard Backlit White, English
could have went with an i5, then use the extra $ for a better gpu. anyway, with basic tasks, and playing games (AAA games with low configs] will do fine
@@loganc6062 I'm actually pretty pleased with it. Just added a 2Tb SSD and installed Witcher 3 and Halo MCC. Smooth as butter not too much heat and hardly any now with the cooler pad. BTW did you get the 144Mhz panel or the 165MHz?
Got the Lenovo LOQ 15 Ryzen 7 7840HS yesterday for $699.99. Lenovo said it can take up to 32gb of RAM. But I read on some forums that it can work with 64gb. I got 2 32gb 4800MHz in there and it works fine. So, I have 64gb of RAM. I also added a 2TB NVME SSD to the 512gb that comes with the laptop (it has 2 slots). Nice deal from Best Buy. The best laptop for the money.
I don't why but on lenovo's official website the net cost of a custom build loq 16 is less than a custom build loq 15 even after upgrading the battery of loq 16 to 80Wh. Both have exactly same specs:- i5 13420, 1440p 100% sRGB display , 16gb RAM, 512gb SSD. Even after upgrading the SSD to 1Tb in loq 16, its price still remains just a little bit less than loq 15
I wish you would review the "base model" instead. They sent you the nice screen version, but when I look at what's available around here, it's only the 1080 screen actually being sold.
I don't measure it over time at the moment, and not looking to add that complexity when I test 6 different performance modes/configurations. If you just mean all the data I currently show on one thing, I am also not sure how to do that in an easy to comprehend way, do you have an example?
GUYS!!!!!! You can have adaptive refresh rate and more features with a custom "Lenovo Legion Toolkit" instead of regular Vantage. It also can actually disable GPU while on battery, which was the only thing that actually helped my Legion 5 Pro Gen7 with 3070Tii
Hi sir, thanks for the review. In my country the loq with a r7 7840 and 4060 has a similar price to a nitro 5 with a 6800h and 3070ti . What do you think is better ? Does the newer cpu makes up for the ~10% less performance of the 4060 compared to 3070ti ? (Not counting dlss3) thanks in advance for the help ! 😊
Feel great buying the LOQ 15 for 640 USD after seeing this video and your new video on 2024 models not getting any real CPU upgrades over last years models. Appreciate your insights, mate!
Had to create a support ticket for my Lenovo pro 7i 4080- thermal throttles a lot just in balanced without AI and performance mode hits 97C just on high settings 90fps locked in on Jedi fallen order
I do have a request to increase game testing in laptop reviews like u do in GPU comparison videos. I know that takes a lot of time but it will definitely be worth it.
Not enough data, the reason we stick to 3 games is because we can compare with so much. At this point it would just be awkward to have one graph with RTX 30 comparison models, then another with different stuff. I like using the same results on all graphs to see the differences in different games. We used to handle this in the dedicated game benchmark videos, but we didn't get enough out of those to justify doing them, so canned them. Maybe we will add more when we change to new games in future like 5, but probably not, we'll probably stick to 3 but just add more resolutions as GPUs get more powerful.
@@JarrodsTech id recommend replacing one of the testing games you use with a cpu heavy game , like planetside 2 , so wed see both cpu and gpu stress performance
I have a genuine question regarding a gaming laptop I got form lenovo recently. I'm completely new to gaming laptops and just bought my first one a few weeks ago. It's a Lenovo Legion 5 and while it stays super cool while playing on battery, usually staying around 55 and rarely getting up to 60, once I plug it in the temps for both my GPU and CPU rise up to 65, even reaching 74 at some moments. While I know that those temperatures are complete safe, the device it self gets really hot. The bottom of it and even the keyboard. Even the plug of my charger gets hot to the point that it makes me nervous that it might be damaging the laptop and since this is my first gaming laptop, I am not sure if this is normal or if I have to give up on long hour gaming sessions and just rely on my battery. I only use my dedicated GPU during gaming. It's a RTX 3060 mobile, while my CPU is a AMD Ryzen 5 6600. So, are stuff that I am experiencing with my laptop normal?
Can't say I'd be worried about it, but if it's uncomfortable only in the places you normally touch while using it then it's an issue. Power plug is not a normally touched zone and should be ignored. Warner is expected with the charger connected as it will perform better and use more power, which results in more heat.
@@JarrodsTech I see. The usual touch zones, like W,A,S,D keys and space bar dont get hot, it's just the midle part of the keyboard and I don't even notice it unless I specifically touch it. So i suppose this is expected in gaming laptops. Thank you very much. Love your content.
I would suggest using external mouse and keyboard. Let the computer behave like an all in 1 desktop computer if you use the built in display. I prefer using an external monitor
LOQ basically just a rebranded Ideapad, with incremental improvement, which happens every year... Maybe the name "Ideapad" sticks with budget professional line, so it would be cool to call the gaming line with "LOQ" instead.
Hey Jarrod and hey everyone. i wanted to ask you guys. If you had 1500e in your pocket, and wanted to buy a laptop, with a bigger than a standart screen, which could run a lot of thing, which model you would choose? Because im seriously thinking about getting this one, eventhough its a little cheaper
This video is one of the Many, MANY videos ive watched to find a solid budget gaming laptop. This is the laptop I've got with an i5 13th gen rtx 4050 and 165 hz QFHD ips screen!
Hey can you do a review on the Acer predator helios neo 16 line of laptops? They seem like incredible value for the price. I love the idea of a nicer chassis/thermals on more affordable units. I cant seem to find any videos that are in english on it yet.... Thanks!
I don't have much to add, all that's covered in this video, we also have some new LOQ videos for the 2024 model and it's still one of my favorite budget laptops.
I am considering this laptop with the new Acer Helios Neo 16 as both are priced about the same here in my country.. hope that you can review this Acer laptop.. by the way great in depth review as usual!
Hi mate on friday I bought after long time of reading and watching people like you exactly the LOQ15 model with i5 13420 / Raptor lake and RTX4050 with Win11 for like 1100 euros with 16GB RAM and 1TB disk. The price gap for 4060 was too high for the titles I want to play, my focus are games like BG3, D3 and D4, Destiny2, Overwatch and maybe Tempest Rising. Tested Doom Eternal and Starfield which I didnt like I uninstalled after like 10 minutes of gameplay :D , I would say that its a really good laptop. The cooling is quite decent and even the 1080 entry level display is quite good, Im really happy with my pick. Few things which I plan to upgrade, these games today are f*** insane I need to buy at least 1 more SSD with 2TB ideally, this is nuts. Appreciate however that they put 1TB disks, I would go with 512GB or just sell it right away. The 16GB are maybe good but im planning to upgrade to 16GBx2, one thing I want to bring up I found one who replaced the realtek wifi card with an intel ax211 and mentioned that only with the latest raptor lake CPU's this can be done, that the replacement will not work with an AMD GPU
3:02 in regards to Type-C charging, afaik it's only possible to charge the laptop with a specific Type-C charger that can only be purchased from Lenovo. Other Type-C chargers aren't going to work, even if they are up to spec.
Bought myself the LOQ 15 15IAX9 from JB Hi-Fi for $1279-I paid $1199 price-matched with The Good Guys, which is incidently owned by JB. Mine has the Intel Core i5-12450HX processor, 24GB RAM, 1TB Solidigm NVMe SSD and RTX2050 GPU. It's awesome!
Hey Jarrod'sTech, can you review the 2023 Models of the HP Victus. I've seen huge improvements on this years model compare to previous models like less screen wobble, RGB backlit, and a mux switch. I would honestly love to see a new HP Victus review.
17:00-20:00 Did anybody notice that the specs for the 3050 gpu on the config/pricing page is listed as having 6GB VRAM as opposed to 4gb VRAM of original listings?! 😮
There are even HDMI cables with led? xD That's preposterous. xD Thanks for your review. Very informative. 19:13 Aaaaah. The most important part. But real test comes when you check does it FreeBSD or Haiku OS. ;)
Hey Jarrod you had mentioned in your 4070 vs 3070ti video that a laptop 4060 vs 4070 video was coming soon. I was wondering whether you are still doing that video?
Check Lenovo LOQ Prices: geni.us/mBbpWlp
Update: the specs at 1:04 should list the RTX 4060 as 115W as the max power limit, not 140W. Though, it doesn't really matter in games anyway due to Nvidia's voltage limit.
tyvm for the detailed review. Do you know what size of second M.2 SSD i can install?
Hi Jarrod should i rather buy an Acer Nitro 5 (R7-6800H + 3070 ti) or a LOQ 15/16 (R7 7840HS + 4060) ?
@@neutralprofit7699I’d say the loq cause the processor is better and you have dlss 3 with the 4060, but if the 3070 ti has higher tdp then maybe the nitro is better🤷♂️
@@Peter-zj3flLenovo loq i7-13, 4060-115tdp -115k vs Acer nitro5 i7-12, 4050-140tdp -95k which one is better?
@@saitama1999 I would take the acer nitro cause the 4060 isn’t that much better and it’s cheaper with higher tdp on the 4050
Best laptop reviewer. Always goes in depth into what actually using it might be like.
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I love how he says Lenovo. Even better when he says Lenovo Logo like “Lenorvowr Lorgow”. Has me cracking up every time
The fact that you cover Linux support is awesome thanks for taking the time to test it ! 🥺
No worries!
Since i plan to buy another Lenovo laptop and use with linux,a 👍from me to.
Imagine using loonix lmao
@@EngineerMikey5Imagine being based?
@@firstduckofwellington6889 Imagine a loonix telling himself that he's based. Never seen a bigger cope.
The LOQ is basically a renamed Idepad Gaming 3.
Kinda Knew that when they Revealed them and I saw that There is no Ideapad Gaming anymore
I knew something was off 😂 I assumed midrang meant legion 5 not reskined nitro 5 2021😂
@@nashsanadiki3104😂😂 thing is Even Nitro 5 is Expensive this Year.
business is booming !
Definately🤣🤣
I am seeing such in depth review for a laptop for the first time. You earned a subscriber.
Only recently started watching, but I’m loving the videos. They’re fast paced yet so in depth and full of relevant information. 10/10 channel
Been waiting for this. Thank you for your in depth review.
Great review as always. One thing I would suggest to improve subsequent reviews, is to comment on heat-sink fan disassembly. For some models, like my lenovo legion, it is impossible to remove top cover from the fans, which in turn, makes it really hard to clean, even when there is light to moderate dust. Intel version of the same laptop heat-sink has tiny screws instead, that enable fans for easy disassembly and cleaning.
Ah! Thanks for info!
Thinking of buying the legion slim 7i Gen 8, but I think I’ll wait for your review as your vids are so educational and helpful
I'm in the same situation ahahah
We are working on that one at the moment!
@@JarrodsTech Hopefully it comes soon. So many people waiting objective review about it. Has potential for another laptop of the year, unless there's something wrong.
@@JarrodsTech How about the Legion Slim 5i, is that the replacement of Legion 5 for this year?
Similar here but waiting for slim 5i
Would you be adding a spec filter to the gaming laptop deals site? And maybe a sorting function for descending / ascending price ?
Probably not, we're quite limited by the plugin we chose to handle the table. Basically the way it calculates the prices on the backend to work out the % off ends up making it a text value so a simple sort by descending doesn't work. As for specs, they aren't separate fields either, it's just one string of text, so that would need multiple fields which I think would make it more confusing to work with. You can just type in a key spec in the search box, like "3060" though. We would like to sort price, but depends on future updates to the plugin, or if we move away from it.
Last 3 years 2060 and 3060 were around 1200eur and 070s were from 1700euro , now 4080 cost from almost 3000euro and 4070 and 4060 from 1700 to 2000euro. Sad to see that it's not so affordable as it used to be , I've still got 2060 legion 5 no issues ( edit I've bought it at 1200 euro ) and I'm playing on my lg TV at qhd windowed maxed at around 50 to 60 most of the time , but 4k is critical at 40 , for example new the last of us is 40fps plus at qhd med details
The whole 40 series are a waste of time and or just horrible value, skip 40 series unless you can afford the stupid 4080 and 4090 prices
If you want to buy a 40 series Laptop.
I think just buy the best Cheapest one.
Per Jarrod's testing an 80-90 watt 4060 performs almost the Same as 140 watt version. Other than 4060 dont even Considered buying anything else in the 40 series. Maybe a discounted 3070ti Laptop if Last gen is Fine. The Asus Strix with 6800m also goes for like $1200 USD Which I am currently Using.
Last week bought MSI Katana 15 with 4070 and i7 12650H for 1550 euros @amazon, really satisfied with the value for total performance and whole package
@@TuboDymoManas you say an overall package there is better deal for 1300(strix g16)you can get a new gen i7-13650hx which is much better than the 12th in terms of efficiency and temperatures , a 4060 which is only 5-8%slower toa a fully powered 140w 4070(yours is 4070@105w which is slower than a 4060) plus 4060 is literally the same as 3070ti BUT with a lower tdp of 40w plus lower temps 15-20c lower not to mention the Strix g16 tri fan cooling and build quality nothing even comes close in that price to perfromance range .
@@youngheart777 There was also a AMD 6900HX with 6850M XT graphics for 1,000 USD Alienware laptop. No DLSS but the virtual ram makes up for it and is definitely more future proof.
Wait for AMD. The AMD 7950 XT for desktops are at 1.000USD and it performs better than the 1.600USD 4090. If AMD doesn't do the same thing has limiting their own mobile graphics, we're likely to see AMD to out price and perform this Gen.t here was also a AMD 6900HX with 6850M XT graphics for 1,000 USD Alienware laptop. No DLSS but the virtual ram makes up for it and is definitely more future proof.
I have the LOQ 15 with the rtx 3050, this is easily the best budget gaming pc. Easily runs titles like Phasmophobia on high graphics and COD MW2 on medium setting. Love this laptop to death
Would you recommend this? I want to use the loq for music production
@@allworksnew Yeah but get more space!
hey dude , Im just wondering if you palyed valorant or even tried it ?how much fps do you get on low settings
@@faker530 Oh yeah it works like a charm!
@@faker530 I averaged 150 with spotify on (ram intensive) on med!
Hi, your videos on the LOQ laptops really helped me find the best value for my money. I picked up the LOQ 15 Ryzen 5 RTX 4050 early this year and it's absolutely amazing. Although because where I live in South East Asia, prices are quite high (for reference, the version that I bought probably costs around 1000 USD and that's the cheapest that I could find anywhere) and the 16 inch version still isn't available until now. But so far I've been enjoying my laptop. Thank you for your research and testing that you have done in all of your videos.
Would you let me know if you have any major problems with your LOQ?
It’s such a new laptop and I don’t know the vulnerabilities
Great review, really gives the viewer a well-informed description for both models. Right about the price-point against performance, might even be better to buy top tier 2021 models. That 2242 stand-off should be removable, hehehe. Thanks for this review.
Thank you for the great review. I was seriously looking to find a good review.
I was a fan of my Legion 5 3060, so I got the LOQ 15" 4050 i7 as my work laptop.
Compared to the Legion, it looks a little flashier but I found that the recessed rear ports prevent stubby dongles from getting caught when shoving it in a backpack.
You mention you weren't able to get it to charge on a 100W charger, but mine charges just fine - though this may be a matter of hardware, the brick mine came with is a smaller 170W as well. Personally, it's been great for work where I only need to do heavy processing about once a week
Between legion 5 and loq 15 which do you think is better. Because of the gpu different i dont know which to choose
@@nou1534 I'd say go with whichever one offers a better GPU. I never use all of the ports offered on the L5, and although the 165hz screen is nice, it'll eventually become overkill as more demanding games arrive in the future. the L5 does feel a little more "premium", but that's just a subjective thing and it's not something you'll notice unless you actually deal with them on a daily basis
I'm coming from the Legion 5 Ryzen 5800H with an RTX 3050 Ti to the LOQ 15 i7 13620H and RTX 4050. The Legion is by far a more premium feeling machine and has a very nice screen, but the bang for buck of the LOQ is pretty hard to deny, especially when you can pick one up for AU $1400, that is just insane.
My only criticism of the LOQ so far is the fact I can't enable XMP because getting into the advanced bios seems to be near impossible, if anyone has found a way I'd love to know!
Idk which one to choose
I found loq and legion for about the same price.
Only the loq has 1440p while the legion has 1080p and also the loq has 4050 vs the 3050 of the legion.
What exactly is legion better at? How is it almost the same price?
@@FantasticKruH Have you compared other aspects like display FPS and color accuracy? Also, I think the 4050 on 1440p probably performs about the same as a 3050 on 1080p, so personally i'd go for the LOQ. it's worth noting the QHD display probably uses more power than the FHD, so consider battery life vs display quality.
Thanks for this video jarrod
No problem, thanks for watching
I just got this laptop based on Jarrods review and it is amazing!! Well built very fast, just works flawlessly. I got the i7 with a gtx4060.
How’s the gaming performance for high quality games like Baldur’s gate 3 or fps? I’m looking to buy the same but wasn’t sure. Also if you 3D modelling like blender how is it too?
@@charzandergaming9422 the gaming performance is great. But i have not run buldurs gate. I only played Rocket league League of legends. Obviously maxed out at qhd. The only graphic intesive game i played is red dead redemption 2. At medium settings at qhd it looked amazing Honestly. Around 90 fps.
Other stuff like Thermals, noise and buillt quality are great.
@@charzandergaming9422here is the video about the comparison
About to buy the same laptop but can't find a credit card if I did I can get 10% discount
@@charzandergaming9422gaming on lenovo loq is pretty decent can get u like 50 to 60 fps at high graphics and for 3d modelling and stuff this laptop is the best the one I am buying has a i7 processor so make sure to buy processor more than i7 or i7 for 3d modelling and animation
Thank you for posting these videos, your recommendations are spot on. Was looking for a gaming laptop and found the correct model and then I purchase it. I checked the website again afterwards and that particular configuration was sold out. Thank you for being clear and precise.
Don't be in a rush at this point and just wait for the AMD version for a full comparison versus the cost.
Hi Jarrod. On saturday finally i decided to buy legion 5i pro 3070ti. Its much cheaper than the 4060 or 4070 version. Thank you for your videos it definitely helped me to choose what to purchase. More power!
Happy to help, enjoy the new laptop!
@@JarrodsTech after 6 months if watching your videos i made up my mind lolz
Go for it mate. Mine is working perfectly fine even with AAA games at high res. RT is a downside cuz it will make your fps go down hard due to only 8gb vram...... But overall is a great machine.
@@kanbei0412 im confused between that one and asus strix g16
@@felipepizzin thank you yes i already made up my mind. Its expensive though but i was thinking of the 3 yrs warranty and 3 yrs accidental damage protection. Also the freebies like gaming monitor and motorized table. Sweet deal but after that im broke ahahaha
The only reason I prefer Legion is for the 99-100% sRGB screen, I need it on a gaming laptop cuz I like to game and I'm a graphic design student so colors are important
Before I continue with the vid I hope LOQ have a high percentage color gamut
Loq has 100 percent srgb
@@shubhthepro really?
It says it has only 45% NTSC.
@govindmurali6866 FHD 1920x1080 képpont 144 Hz IPS 45% NTSC vagy WQHD 2560x1440 165Hz (2k) 100% NTSC - 2 fajta kijelzővel gyártják!
@@McnugGetsomebicthes 45% NTSC is in variant RTX 3050 6GB but variant RTX 4050 is 100% sRGB
@@1982Sasi I understood the numbers part. But not the rest😅
Its an OK ish display for 1080p gaming
Thanks again man! Great review and comparison, as always!
Loved how you include linux support in your review. I was tired of looking elsewhere.
A whole 20 second section about Linux Support?!
You've got your self a plus one like
Hey, Jarrod. Big fan of the channel.
I would just like to point out that there's a small error in the displayed laptop specs at 1:05; the storage is listed as PCIE Gen 3 SSD when it should be Gen 4.
You ofc say that it's Gen 4 in the storage speed section of the video, so you don't have to worry about it. I just thought you'd like to know.
Oops
@@JarrodsTechyou should have thanked him.
I am somebody who intends to buy one laptop on sale when Black Friday is coming, this review is amazing, has a time stamp, and different from other reviews, also talks about some problems instead of just making good comments and misleading the consumers. Thanks a lot!
Thanks! We have some best of style videos coming up that may also help.
@@JarrodsTechcompared to the acer nitro 5 from this year, which laptop do you think will last longer long term?
Bring on the reviews for the Ryzen variants on Lenovo Legion Jarrod!
Best reviewer! Cheers :=)
Holy s**t, ASOT fan! 😳
And thank you for this amazing review, you answered everything I needed to know and more.
Glad it was helpful!
@@JarrodsTech I bought the LOQ 16 with the gtx 4060, 16 gigs ram, really happy with the purchase, it was $990 which seemed really awesome, used your website and coupon code, thanks a ton
Damn. Maybe I should have waited after all. This looks like a pretty big step up in a lot of ways over my 2021 Legion 5
Obviously fam. Its got 2 years worth of hardware improvements over the 2021 legion.
That was a really smooth sponsor transition I’m not going to lie
I asked for this review a couple videos back, thanks! But I ended up going with the Legion 5i 12700H/3060, as it was listed for 1099, with the infamous 300w powerbrick (thing is humongos).
Hope it holds up to the newer models..
I would love to have that sale here in India.
Here we get the legion 5 gen 6 with r7 5800h and 3050 for the same price
Is that sale still going on? Mind a link?
Here you go
Just got mine! I love this laptop
16:37 It's interesting how small the difference is between 4060 and 4070. Makes me want to see a full comparison between the two in more games.
Nvidia's current laptop GPUs are quite the mess in my opinion. I wish AMD had shown up to the competition, instead we just get what Nvidia has to sell and for whatever price they choose.
AMD is too busy disputing TSMC fabs and prioritizing EPYC CPUs.
@@pedro4205 Disputing?
@@sonicboy678 lol
@@sonicboy678 i don't know if this is the right english word, altought it has this meaning. TSMC is the biggest semi conductor company today, and NVidia, Intel, Qualcomm, AMD, Apple, and others use their fabs. TSMC can only put so much silicon at a given time, and those companies that use the fabs need to reserve it long before they will actually need it. Zen4 uses 4/5nm fabs, Apple usually reserves up to 100% of the fabs some months. AMD just focus on what will give then more profit since they can't do as much as they would like.
I plan on making a 4060 vs 4070 video in the future.
I just bought a 16 after watching a bunch of your other videos, so this review is giving me some confidence that I won't regret buying. Thank you for being so thorough!
How is it
so far so good, I got it on sale for under 1k. Will need some added RAM before long, but overall I recommend! @@Nomad-bl4yw
My IdeaPad has an advanced BIOS with way more information that I know. Anything from RAM timing, CPU power configuration, fan control to temperature tracker. I don't know if the LOQ can let you enter it the same way but holding Fn, R and N at the same time with Fn, R and N pressed alone two times after that gets me to the BIOS.
Do you mean pressing Fn+R+N while booting .?
@@shoaibahmad8786 Before the Lenovo logo pops up, yeah.
Do the fan control actually works ?
Been eagerly waiting since I saw the LOQ series on online listings.
Love you're videos
thanks!
I'm thinking of buying either this or the Lenovo Legion Slim 5 since in my country they are similarly priced.
Indonesia?
Waiting for the helios 16 or 18 review 😀
Somehow they are in store but nobody is reviewing them yet.
Just bought the 16 inch version with the same specs from the video for ~ 1000 euros. It’s not the best laptop, but for this price you can’t complain. With the new features from the 40xx generation fps is not an issue and you can run any game at a lower noice level. So would recommend to buy a 4060 all the time
Wdym by it's not the best? I'm kinda interested in it
@@zrATT_ I mean there a laptops with better display, CPU and GPU out there. But overall its fine and for this money its actually good.
If i would game more then my 6-8h a week i would go maybe for a laptop with a miniLED and a 4080 GPU, but thats normally like 1500 Euro more.
For some casual gaming its more then ok.
@@tobias834 didn't even get a notification for this but thanks
Where did you buy it for 1000€??
@@Carrera92 Directly from Lenovo
Sin duda la mejor review de todo UA-cam, saludos desde México.
I got the LOQ 15irh8 with an i5-13420h and an RTX 4050. I paid 1100$ for it and couldn't be happier! Runs absolutely everything.
any issues?
@@jpergen absolutely not, although the plastic below the screen has a weirdy kinda gloe on it? it reflects some of the white from the keyboard. I don't think it's melted plastic, but it's a small annoyance you could find big.
Hi! How are temps and battery? I think between your Lenovo and asus tuf a15(2023) with r7 7735hs and 4050.
did you get the 230w or 170W adapter?
Does it have a 4 zone RGB keyboard?
How's the screen quality for that?
Do you have a spreadsheet with all the weights, performances and everything you test for all laptops? Because that would be awesome! :D
Not everything, but you can find some of it on the website: jarrods.tech/resources/
I just ordered the LOQ 15IRH8 for US$ 1180 a few days ago and I was constantly questioning myself if I should have spent that extra for the 16". Thanks to your review, I feel better now 😃.
This was a fixed specs unit so I couldn't customise it because I had a ceiling budget of US$ 1200. Tell me honestly if this was worth the buy:
Intel® Core™ i7-13620H Processor
15.6" WQHD (2560 x 1440), IPS, Anti-Glare, G-Sync, Non-Touch, 100% sRGB, 350 Nits, 165Hz
16 GB (2x 8 GB) SO-DIMM DDR5 5200MHz
512 GB SSD M.2 2242 PCIe Gen4/4
3 Year Premium Care
NVIDIA GeForce® RTX™ 4050 6GB GDDR6
4 Cell, 60Wh
No Fingerprint Reader
Keyboard Backlit White, English
could have went with an i5, then use the extra $ for a better gpu. anyway, with basic tasks, and playing games (AAA games with low configs] will do fine
4050 for QHD 😢
just got a pretty much identical 16 model, hows yours holding up? Still waiting for my delivery but I have high hopes all things considered
@@loganc6062 I'm actually pretty pleased with it. Just added a 2Tb SSD and installed Witcher 3 and Halo MCC. Smooth as butter not too much heat and hardly any now with the cooler pad.
BTW did you get the 144Mhz panel or the 165MHz?
@@thealienpod828 i got the 144, it was just part of the pre configuration
Thanks you so much man. I was thinking of buying this. Thank you so much for confirming that Linux works out of the box as it was my main concern
Glad I could help!
Got the Lenovo LOQ 15 Ryzen 7 7840HS yesterday for $699.99. Lenovo said it can take up to 32gb of RAM. But I read on some forums that it can work with 64gb. I got 2 32gb 4800MHz in there and it works fine. So, I have 64gb of RAM. I also added a 2TB NVME SSD to the 512gb that comes with the laptop (it has 2 slots). Nice deal from Best Buy. The best laptop for the money.
from which site did you bought it?
I don't why but on lenovo's official website the net cost of a custom build loq 16 is less than a custom build loq 15 even after upgrading the battery of loq 16 to 80Wh.
Both have exactly same specs:- i5 13420, 1440p 100% sRGB display , 16gb RAM, 512gb SSD.
Even after upgrading the SSD to 1Tb in loq 16, its price still remains just a little bit less than loq 15
It looks so similar to ideapad3 7th gen in terms of design
Yeah lots of similarities
Damn this is a good showcase
So will this replace the Ideapad gaming line?
I asked them they said it doesn't replace it. They are still selling it. This is just a bit more expensive for a bit more features I think
@@JarrodsTech oh nice, so it’s a mid point between the Ideapad gaming and legion lineup. 😮
What an excellent review 🙂
Thank you sooo much!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for touching on linux support. Much appreciated.
Amazing review again Jarrod! Could you do one about a comparison between the legion slim 5i and 7i?
I wish you would review the "base model" instead. They sent you the nice screen version, but when I look at what's available around here, it's only the 1080 screen actually being sold.
Would love to see the AMD ones tested.
I think they didn't send them at the same time because AMD HS seems delayed
Be'lakor band is awesome! Very nice tshirt.
"LOQ" IMO is not a good name
Maybe cuz its a racial slur?
At least it will be LOQ'd in your head
OG LOQ
@@mono4968 huh?
It's named for some reason like the china only versions of legion laptops
Another banger video, hopefully the slim 5i comes out soon
It could be nice to have fan noise graph combined with power consumption and temperature
I don't measure it over time at the moment, and not looking to add that complexity when I test 6 different performance modes/configurations. If you just mean all the data I currently show on one thing, I am also not sure how to do that in an easy to comprehend way, do you have an example?
@@JarrodsTech Fan noice could be made same way as you do with others. First try that and we will see rest
GUYS!!!!!!
You can have adaptive refresh rate and more features with a custom "Lenovo Legion Toolkit" instead of regular Vantage.
It also can actually disable GPU while on battery, which was the only thing that actually helped my Legion 5 Pro Gen7 with 3070Tii
Hi sir, thanks for the review. In my country the loq with a r7 7840 and 4060 has a similar price to a nitro 5 with a 6800h and 3070ti . What do you think is better ? Does the newer cpu makes up for the ~10% less performance of the 4060 compared to 3070ti ? (Not counting dlss3) thanks in advance for the help ! 😊
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Feel great buying the LOQ 15 for 640 USD after seeing this video and your new video on 2024 models not getting any real CPU upgrades over last years models. Appreciate your insights, mate!
The poor 1% lows performance might be due to slow system memory (budget cuts). I think it looks similar to the 2021 Legion Pro with slow memory.
Had to create a support ticket for my Lenovo pro 7i 4080- thermal throttles a lot just in balanced without AI and performance mode hits 97C just on high settings 90fps locked in on Jedi fallen order
Have you tried raising the back?
Jarrod are you getting your hands on with any Zen 4 Ryzen Pheonix laptops? 7840HS or 7940HS ?!
I'm getting a new 14 inch soon but I can't talk about it just yet
@@JarrodsTech14 inch with this chip. I think we all know what it is going to be. Excited for the review!
Just picked up the Loq 15 with 4050 and AMD for $600 on sale. Merry Christmas to me.
I do have a request to increase game testing in laptop reviews like u do in GPU comparison videos. I know that takes a lot of time but it will definitely be worth it.
Not enough data, the reason we stick to 3 games is because we can compare with so much. At this point it would just be awkward to have one graph with RTX 30 comparison models, then another with different stuff. I like using the same results on all graphs to see the differences in different games. We used to handle this in the dedicated game benchmark videos, but we didn't get enough out of those to justify doing them, so canned them. Maybe we will add more when we change to new games in future like 5, but probably not, we'll probably stick to 3 but just add more resolutions as GPUs get more powerful.
@@JarrodsTech id recommend replacing one of the testing games you use with a cpu heavy game , like planetside 2 , so wed see both cpu and gpu stress performance
thanks alot bro❤
I have a genuine question regarding a gaming laptop I got form lenovo recently. I'm completely new to gaming laptops and just bought my first one a few weeks ago. It's a Lenovo Legion 5 and while it stays super cool while playing on battery, usually staying around 55 and rarely getting up to 60, once I plug it in the temps for both my GPU and CPU rise up to 65, even reaching 74 at some moments. While I know that those temperatures are complete safe, the device it self gets really hot. The bottom of it and even the keyboard. Even the plug of my charger gets hot to the point that it makes me nervous that it might be damaging the laptop and since this is my first gaming laptop, I am not sure if this is normal or if I have to give up on long hour gaming sessions and just rely on my battery. I only use my dedicated GPU during gaming. It's a RTX 3060 mobile, while my CPU is a AMD Ryzen 5 6600. So, are stuff that I am experiencing with my laptop normal?
Can't say I'd be worried about it, but if it's uncomfortable only in the places you normally touch while using it then it's an issue. Power plug is not a normally touched zone and should be ignored. Warner is expected with the charger connected as it will perform better and use more power, which results in more heat.
@@JarrodsTech I see. The usual touch zones, like W,A,S,D keys and space bar dont get hot, it's just the midle part of the keyboard and I don't even notice it unless I specifically touch it. So i suppose this is expected in gaming laptops. Thank you very much. Love your content.
I would suggest using external mouse and keyboard. Let the computer behave like an all in 1 desktop computer if you use the built in display. I prefer using an external monitor
Another great review! Thanks for including the helios 300 on the comparison charts :)
LOQ?
Sounds like Lenovo wants to sounds like ROG & diss them by making it a lower tier than Legion 😂
Another great video
RIP the ideapads
LOQ basically just a rebranded Ideapad, with incremental improvement, which happens every year...
Maybe the name "Ideapad" sticks with budget professional line, so it would be cool to call the gaming line with "LOQ" instead.
I asked and apparently the IdeaPad is still being made but the LOQ sits in between it and the Legion range.
Hey Jarrod, great video. Can you review the same Lenovo laptop with the RTX 3050 (6GB) please.
Hey Jarrod and hey everyone. i wanted to ask you guys. If you had 1500e in your pocket, and wanted to buy a laptop, with a bigger than a standart screen, which could run a lot of thing, which model you would choose? Because im seriously thinking about getting this one, eventhough its a little cheaper
Looks like I’m a bit late, but I would get the Legion pro five or seven I
awesome review
Thanks!
Legion laptops time is coming, RIP
LOQ Pro
@@2Jannah LOQ = Legion Of Quality
Nah legion still around
@@JarrodsTech I know, but we still need a Legion 9!
Will we never get such an update on Legion 5 2022 models so we clould also customize fan settings and performance settings in detail?
They haven't said never, but it seems unlikely.
We hope for the best
Can you do a review of MSI's bios? You are the first person who brought their impressive bios to my attention
This video is one of the Many, MANY videos ive watched to find a solid budget gaming laptop. This is the laptop I've got with an i5 13th gen rtx 4050 and 165 hz QFHD ips screen!
how is it? heat issue?
Hey can you do a review on the Acer predator helios neo 16 line of laptops? They seem like incredible value for the price. I love the idea of a nicer chassis/thermals on more affordable units. I cant seem to find any videos that are in english on it yet....
Thanks!
Bro how's your experience so far with the loq ,what's the battery life? Like for normal use and gaming any issue with this one yet ? Any heating issue
I don't have much to add, all that's covered in this video, we also have some new LOQ videos for the 2024 model and it's still one of my favorite budget laptops.
@@JarrodsTech no what I mean is it's been a quite a while since you made this video , so I was asking how it's performing till this day
@@omrajput1165he probably doesn’t use this very often. It’s mostly been bought for reviewing purposes
@AzmayeenAbdullah I see, alright then
I am considering this laptop with the new Acer Helios Neo 16 as both are priced about the same here in my country.. hope that you can review this Acer laptop.. by the way great in depth review as usual!
Helios Neo 16 review should be up next week.
@@JarrodsTech nice! patiently waiting..
Hi mate on friday I bought after long time of reading and watching people like you exactly the LOQ15 model with i5 13420 / Raptor lake and RTX4050 with Win11 for like 1100 euros with 16GB RAM and 1TB disk. The price gap for 4060 was too high for the titles I want to play, my focus are games like BG3, D3 and D4, Destiny2, Overwatch and maybe Tempest Rising. Tested Doom Eternal and Starfield which I didnt like I uninstalled after like 10 minutes of gameplay :D , I would say that its a really good laptop. The cooling is quite decent and even the 1080 entry level display is quite good, Im really happy with my pick. Few things which I plan to upgrade, these games today are f*** insane I need to buy at least 1 more SSD with 2TB ideally, this is nuts. Appreciate however that they put 1TB disks, I would go with 512GB or just sell it right away. The 16GB are maybe good but im planning to upgrade to 16GBx2, one thing I want to bring up I found one who replaced the realtek wifi card with an intel ax211 and mentioned that only with the latest raptor lake CPU's this can be done, that the replacement will not work with an AMD GPU
Did you buy an external or internal SSD for upgrading your laptop?
I'm going to buy an internal SSD
If you would buy one of these now...would you buy the 2023 model or wait for the new 2024 models which should come out in February 2024?
In his 2024 review. He said to go with 2023 as it is better and more affordable. That’s why I’m here 😂
19:12 excellent review for us Linux fan base. THanks Jarrod. All linux users,use this as like button.
Can someone explain why the loq 15 has faster wifi speeds even though they’re almost the same laptop
3:02 in regards to Type-C charging, afaik it's only possible to charge the laptop with a specific Type-C charger that can only be purchased from Lenovo.
Other Type-C chargers aren't going to work, even if they are up to spec.
This laptop actually seems really good, and rn a store has it at a sale for 1100€, solid price for what all it has
699.99 at best buy right now
Bought myself the LOQ 15 15IAX9 from JB Hi-Fi for $1279-I paid $1199 price-matched with The Good Guys, which is incidently owned by JB.
Mine has the Intel Core i5-12450HX processor, 24GB RAM, 1TB Solidigm NVMe SSD and RTX2050 GPU.
It's awesome!
1199 for 2050?
OMEGALOL
Hey Jarrod'sTech, can you review the 2023 Models of the HP Victus. I've seen huge improvements on this years model compare to previous models like less screen wobble, RGB backlit, and a mux switch. I would honestly love to see a new HP Victus review.
You rock bro! Please try out the Acer Nitro 17 AN17-41-R9L6
17:00-20:00 Did anybody notice that the specs for the 3050 gpu on the config/pricing page is listed as having 6GB VRAM as opposed to 4gb VRAM of original listings?! 😮
I knew that. 2023 RTX 3050 laptops have 6 GB of vRAM now.
honestly for a 2k display 4060 i7 you can’t find the better alternative under 1k
I bought the Lenovo LOQ 15IRH8 - 1920x1080p 144hz 15.6" Intel Core i5 13th Gen 13420H, GeForce RTX 4050, 8 GB DDR5 RAM, 512 GB PCIe SSD for $750.
7640hs amd test pliz🥺
There are even HDMI cables with led? xD That's preposterous. xD Thanks for your review. Very informative. 19:13 Aaaaah. The most important part. But real test comes when you check does it FreeBSD or Haiku OS. ;)
Great now we just need to see the Legion 9
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So is this the Legion 3 or 1? Maybe like the Wacom One?
@@gaklimited I mean they kinda are the last gen models were called the IdeaPad 3 and 5 series
Hey Jarrod you had mentioned in your 4070 vs 3070ti video that a laptop 4060 vs 4070 video was coming soon. I was wondering whether you are still doing that video?
Still planning on it, just haven't had a slot for it yet.
That's Great! Thanks