Unused Super Sonic Cutscene
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
- Dated 28/07/92
Had a box of VHS tapes of Sonic 2 beta footage from back when I worked at STI. I was a beta tester for the game. Some footage was anomalies that was filmed at the time of playtesting and some were filmed later on where I managed to pick up some of the carts SEGA was about to dispose of. This seems to be the unused super sonic cutscene from back before it was scrapped. Dated around the time of the "Simon Wai" proto, this cutscene is the only noticeable difference to me. The tape seemed to be incomplete, blacking out at some parts. Tape rot perhaps. The color is messed up for sure so that could be it.
I'll admit this honestly looks legit considering what the stage was originally meant to be for.
The description says it is so it might really be legit
@@octoberspiderspider226 dude it’s obviously not legit
Nah i wanna play Sonic Delta 40MB
@@devinowens2166 We know it's not legit, but it does look that way from how well it's been made.
@@picoultimate7707 True! This stage was originally for when Sonic had all the emeralds, right? I’m not sure.
i can imagine some tired sounding guy narrating the happenings of this, and getting terrified when the game cuts out and it wasn’t supposed to
welp im terrified on the end and this is some kind of creepypasta
AND THE SYSTEM CLEARLY GOT HALTED
Then he woke
I think this will become a fleetway super sonic analog horror series (I guess).
@@timebmber this aint this was the original purpose of the zone before it got scrapped
I am 100% positive this was supposed to be a analog horror arg similar to the Mario 64 beta archive, and even though these channels were so 2 years ago, I still find them fascinating. I’m honestly kinda sad that this channel that probably had big ambitions only got 1 video. It makes me wonder what could have been, just like how I’m still wondering how the Mario 64 beta archive could have ended if it wasn’t canned. RIP Sonic 2 beta documents. Could have been so much more.
I think it's going to be that but with fleetway super sonic.
That would be cool, and that would be so much more original if then If it was just sonic exe or some dumb crap like that
@@mayday_SR tbh sonic.exe just annoys me. And other people making other characters to have a exe form bothers me a lot.
@@Guffmclol facts
This was released around the same time a huge data mining leak that revealed groundbreaking details about SM64’s beta (like Luigi’s model for example) made the internet obsessed with SM64 beta aesthetics as well as the Wario apparition meme surfacing at the time so it’s likely this was released to parallel that trend.
Taking the spooky aspect, I could genuinely see this being a thing and I love it.
That aged well :(
@@mayday_SR I know :(
@@deklyntdh what
@@apersoniguess_ idk what are you saying what to
@@deklyntdh what do you and him mean by it aged well with the sad faces, what happened
There were some sources that said that HPZ was going to be some kind of level that acts like a portal for sonic after he acquired all the 7 chaos emeralds and transform into super sonic. Whether this copy of super transformation is legitimate or not, I believe that this was how the level was intended to be. And also the HPZ music at the super transformation scene was the the music intended for that particular cutscene. But all these ideas were dropped and it was put up in Sonic 3 and knuckles, along with the Super emeralds lore.
It makes sense, considering the unused song is the only "level theme" to end conclusively in Masa's demos (as opposed to fading into silence as it continues to loop). What I'd heard (albeit unconfirmed iirc) is that Hidden Palace would be the destination of the special stage star rings once all the special stages had been cleared. Complete Hidden Palace, unlock Super!
@@PhirePhlame Yes. Even I heard bits and pieces of that information too. It's very sad though that this idea was scrapped from the original game. Due to time constraints, there was no alternative but to scrap it off from the game.
Can we completed this scary Mystery?
We need to find a rom of the Sonic 2 Simon Wai prototype where this Super Sonic cutscene is restored
@@timebmber yeh because i dont wanna use logic and solve this by my own
I know this is meant to be creepy, but thank you for giving me something close to what this scene would've looked like in the original game.
Wtf I just noticed Sonic's expression of pain and his face disappearing
@@Convoy143, same
@@Convoy143 This kinda looks real
Well hey this was before the games realest plus it was on a vhs so
@@SquidPartyDude actually it's the creater of this video just playing prototype sonic 2 and the cutscene are just well made
the way sonic's face disintegrates while turning super lowkey kinda spooks me out.
Scared the shit out of me
It was i proto vers of Him shutting his eye
he just used phantom ruby (warning do not do this at home
)
@@Unnamed2011the phantom ruby wasn’t in sonic 2 :/
@@Unnamed2011the person who doesn't have a home: lets go!
the fact that the multiplayer music is always used as the stage music here in prototypes and that the demo of song 10 has a definitive ending leads me to believe that every multiplayer song including the results was made for a unique stage that got cut early on, but they still used the music. Song 10 was probably for a cutscene not unlike the one shown here, of maybe a small segment that lets you play as super Sonic. The multiplayer results theme in particular sounds almost jungle like, fitting for the scrapped wood zone
The "2 - Player" Zone in the Prototype and final and Sound 10 is Made late on development.
If that is right, then also 2 player EHZ song was also gonna be used for a scrapped level
my belief is hpz is mcz 2player, ooz was cnz 2 player,dust hill is ooz main game,genocide is track 10 which would leave wood with ehz 2 player.
that's the reason of why the multiplayer tracks are included in the credits medley of sonic 2
Emerald Hill 2p was used for Emerald Hill 2p, Casino Night 2p was for Oil Ocean, and I think this one was actually for Hidden Palace
1:40 Sonic: “Goes super”
The game: *N o*
Game says No super forms allowed
Serious bullshit lol
It's still in beta
he used the phantom ruby to transform
The genesis couldn't handle it
In fact this is real. SEGA planned "If player get all 7 emeralds, he will be accesed into Hidden Palace zone, and then after its completition he will get Super Sonic".
1:50 Screen of Death
With a cute Sonic sprite
This is the beta game crash. The release one corrupts the graphics
Fake
Fun fact: this subject's 1992 recorder can record at 1080p60
No, it's an upscale
the best part about this is the backing instruments for the music getting cut when sound effects play, as that happened sometimes on original hardware because of sound channels.
not sometimes but always - the composer should prioritize the instruments using 6 available channels in the way that is some sound would play that would replace the less important instrument.
If only this is how you got Super Sonic in the actual game. It would've been better if you did 6 Special Stages, entered Hidden Palace, and managed to get the 7th Chaos Emerald there.
VHS Footage that was recorded the gameplay and the cutscene of hidden palace zone is really cool.
It is not real tho
ik
1:20 unused animition
used in the prototype/beta*
Originally Hidden Palace was only accesible if you had the Chaos Emeralds,and it would teach how to use Super Sonic.
Wow i genuinely thought this was like real or at least a mock up of what couldve happened and didnt expect the end.
This actually would be great cuz hidden palace is where sonic can turn into super sonic. If you collect all 7 emeralds in this stage or have had gotten them already, then this "scraped" cutscene would have actually occurred.
That ending part was really scaring me out.
Hey, ya buyed gold right?
That would be interesting if it was in the game, sonic find out about a 7th chaos emerald and then accidentally transform, due the hidden palace crumbling into pieces after you obtained the emerald
Like how i got a ad called "perfect lie" on this video lol
You know a sonic 2 complete would be a pretty good mod for sonic 2 absolute
1:19 unused sprites
1:39
Plot twist: sonic transformed into fleetway super sonic
@Lamda2 Oh. Yeah Sonic did lose his face. It’s hard to tell when the yellow easily blends with white
My headcannon is sonic became fleetway, but the game code tried to stop it, but it couldn't because of fleet ways immense power, so it crashed itself as a last resort
@@Ultrawithextrawords Good theory
That would explain the face falling part
And sonic being forced to turn super
The game wasnt ready for super, so it definitely didn't know about the Fleetway counterpart. Knowing it wasn't supposed to be there it tried to corrupt itself to de-render Fleetway, thus his eyes and mouth disappearing. However the attempt failed and it only de-rendered the facial details and not the sprite itself, (Here goes my second head cannon) so Fleetway was able to corrupt and kill it. But right before it did it, it halted itself by permanently deleting the super sonic code, however half of the games code was centered around the form, so once it deleted the game, it deleted the intro, sprites, and it's internal code. Some of the code made sure the game was running, So once it happened...It halted itself.
And all of this happened until the halted screen.
So the game sacrificed itself to delete an anomaly in a nutshell.
probaly this was a early version of sonic turning into his super form.
why do these “archive” channels never make a disclaimer that these arent real?
edit: i am a complete and utter dumbass now u can stop commenting here guys
@@diamondcoin Greenio ruined it for everyone
Because the whole 'this is an arg' thing should be obvious
@@diamondcoin yeah that makes sense
@@mzov_1724 It should be, but it's not. Some of these people are so talented at making fake content that people like myself who are actually interested in development history often don't realize until most of the way through the video.
There have been a few times where I disregarded other real prototype footage because I thought it was one of these fakes, and didn't find out until they were brought up in later discussions.
Often, there are very obvious red-flags, but sometimes they're the kind of thing that the less initiated might not notice.
To make it more interesting, without disclaimers it's more mysterious and creepy
1:51
*SYSTEM HALTED*
ERROR IN ROM
•68656C70•
😞
Track or song number 10 does sound like it was meant to be used for a Cut scene on how sonic discovers the ability to turn super sonic and the music also fits hidden palace very well also
if you look at the demo tapes from masato nakamura, it actually has a definitive end to the song
Yes, and I found it strange that the mystic cave 2p music was used for gameplay in the beta, as I don't think they would've planned that far ahead. In my opinion I think the mystic cave one was meant to be used for the level itself and the final unused version would've been meant for the cutscene.
Not sure if this is real or not, I don't think it is but there was never confirmation which is annoying. Being someone who's really into classic sonics development I get excited whenever new things may have been found and for it not to have been clarified by the op was annoying.
sprites look too smooth and stuff to be closer to the Simon Wai proto..
You never know what vhs tapes you got at home at least it wasn't cursed
Interesting. I found a few interesting things but I'll leave it up to some other people to find them I don't want to be the guy who spoiled it lol.
Please tell meeeeee
@@Mr_Gamer-Random this is not legit for HPZ
You are awesome for this!
I was hype as shit then i realized......this is like 1080P VHS lmaooo
And it looks the palette like in the medgen
720p VHS exists. But yea 1080p is completely wrong.
Actually once I uploaded a video then while it was uploading UA-cam said it was processing in 1080p
the effect looks cool tho
Date in the bottom is completely OFF.
Easy to spot how it's fake. There are CRAM dots on the bottom during normal gameplay, which wouldn't be seen if recording a VHS on the actual hardware. It then disappears during the "cutscene" and the "system halted" screen. The actual gameplay was likely a recording of the BlastEM emulator, which does show these dots.
Couple that with the fact that the resolution is too high for VHS. Granted, upscaling isn't impossible. Still unlikely that it was upscaled.
Overall, seems you had fooled a decent amount of people with it. Nice animation for the most part, but shaking the chaos emerald in the way you did would be very difficult to pull off in assembly.
Also, shame you didn't make any more uploads. Would love to see what other ideas you have.
@Sonic 2 Beta Docs rip old account 2020-2022 also you finding more footage?
@Sonic 2 Beta Docs So this is fake all the time?
in the black screen right before the cutsene in the bottom right corner it says SSTESTSC.
i thing "SS" means "Super Sonic the test being super sonic test scene" or "SSTESTSC" but right at 1:34 in the same corner it flashes in red and all caps "ERROR"
cool cutscene sega! i got a bit spooked while first reacting to this but its so cool! thanks for the footage, sonic 2 beta documents!
This might become some Fleetway super sonic analog horror thing.
Sonic 1 Level Select: I'm still here
Fun fact: Sonic 2 was originally planned to have this zone in as Hidden Palace, a zone that now exists in sonic 3, thought the textures and the music are still in the sonic 2 files
It’s also in the 2013 remaster
It's also accessible via an Action Replay cat or similar in the retail release though all its data is garbled.
@@inkboi215 another fun fact: the hidden palace zone beta is in the 2013 remaster and i'm not talking about the secret mystic cave level but the original beta level
@@ser_celestial I AM aware of that, you have to put in a code for that in the level select
It's now back in origins
looks more like sonic couldn't go super
and make it to a chili dog festival....
which is why he looks sad at the end .
This IS The unused Cutsene of
The First time of The super Sonic transformation
You should definitely make more of this stuff, shit's awesome
Nah I don't think he made up
hidden palace was really meant to be a level like this
And I think the "system halted" error Was because the genesis couldn't handle it
This is gonna be the start of something terrifying I just know it!
Maybe this will feature fleetway super sonic from sonic the comic.
Interesting, this is every copy of sonic the hedgehog 2 is personalized. 🤔
Don't remember me about that stupid shit of theory (wario aparitión)
Jajajajajajajaj Her WAT Theoryoooooo YOLOBROTROLL B
Hidden palace zone was gonna be where you unlock super sonic
True
@@kuzregoistgold You mean after collect all 7 chaos emerald
Ooh taking inspiration from the Mario 64 beta creepypastas I see 👀 I like it!
Well of course that its the beta,i miss the old removed maps :(
if someone does a rom hack which the levels are complete and this cutscene is included, then i will blow up.
There is one with out the cutscene but
with the beta levels
If I ever learn how to make a ROM hack, this is one I'd make.
I’m attempting something similar to this. I’m making a Sonic 2 RomHack based on concepts, such as concept art, physics, and even levels like blue ocean zone and obviously the more common ones.
@@user-ku3sr7cl3u NEAT
@@user-ku3sr7cl3u Sounds epic can't wait to play it! :)
Okay but this sounds like it was taken from a creepypasta lol
That reminds me of that one specific location in Earthworm Jim where you teleport to this very dark place with glowing eyes. would be a neat mechanic in this game
Hhhhhhhhh
I think I am the only person who realised this is the ONLY video being posted from this channel AND it came out 2 years ago at the beginning of the FNAF VHS hype.
I really like this. And I think you should post more videos on sonic 2 development or maybe classic sonic development.
Extremely bizarre that this video appeared in my recommendations on the same day and month as the tape recording '-'
Please give us more content it’s been a year
@Sonic 2 Beta Docs thanks!
This channel made one video then disappeared, never to be seen again.
I know this is supposed to be analog horror, but I feel like this could be a real cutscene. After the Egg Trombone boss, Sonic would walk over to the 7th Chaos Emerald. The other 6 would come out and the energies would make Sonic turn super. Text would appear telling you how to turn super, the benefits, and the ring-draining consequence. Then it would say, "Keep rocking on, player!"
Why am I getting recommended this? Looks like it's been blowing up considering the newest replies. Really wish this was more than what it was, a Sonic 2 Beta analog horror series would have been amazing, so much potential within it.
@Sonic 2 Beta Docs Ooh sick, that's awesome man! I'll be sure to look forward to that, this series has still got the potential to be interesting, and I wish you luck on it!
Sucks that the channel has been inactive for years now, I’d love to see where this little Sonic 2 Beta arg could’ve gone. :(
@Sonic 2 Beta Docs LETS GOOOOO
My man this is not how to start a horror series
nice, sonic gained so much power that it crashed the game
Super sonic was so powerfull that it crashed the ROM.Damn
seeing sonic's face basically melt as he turns super was genuinely unsettling geez
Bro like oh my god this looks so realistic
I don’t know. I’m not a big fan of adding the “creepy” element to it. It would just be fun to see what you would’ve thought the cutscene would’ve looked like.
For those who are wondering is this fake? Absolutly is why do you think he has chosen the static background? (Becuase it is hard to record background graphics (especialy animated) ) And This (1:53) is not how the crash handler works and sonic 2 beta rom is small so it is not 68656C70 That Is TOO MUCH and I bet you, he never worked at STI
THIS IS JUST A VIDEO YOU DONT HAVE TO DO THAT MAN IT RUINS EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS
@@restoul1 ye but it is true and
He is lying bout it being unused
Hidden palace wasn’t in the original sonic 2 it was added in the mobile ports…
Who's gonna tell them?
Hidden Palace is a cut level from Sonic 2 but you can still play it the 2012 mobile port you have to enter 0303030B10101004 on sound test then go to hidden Palace and you can play the original cut level
@@Mr.IDK07the mobile port was 2013 man or you taoing about java
I thought this was literally supposed to give us an image of what the super sonic cutscene was originally going to be, not scare me.
Is this all you found?it’s been 1 year and 22 days since the beginning of this channel.
This zone looks awsome. And I’m also shok at when you recorded this 1992?!
I swear to god i clicked on this video thinking its was real and literally take me 10 seconds this wasnt a real,good job lol!
Woah, looks pretty legit !
Good job bud, keep up the good work.
Cutscene at 1:34
Hidden Palace Zone. A job well done.
So Super sonic is so powerful he crashes the game
he was tweaked so the game didn't go ILLEGAL INSTRUCTION
@@nil8659 Thank god
what the heck went wrong when sonic went super sonic? i know he look worried, but WHY tho?
@Carlos Valle oh, makes sense.
The fact you not getting all the rings is pissing me off
as soon as the sound started playing my ears started loudly ringing
wtf
your channel logo is THE most Unused zone in sonic, your name is desert dazzle. i Explored that zone in rsdk, but i have seen that only photos of that zone
For those who are gullible, this video is fake. It doesn’t look at all like a VHS tape (no color bleeding, way too high resolution) and the color effect on it isn’t possible by just tape rot as the description says.
Bruh i got recommended this 2 years later
1:42 maybe he wants to go super with 1 emerald, but he forgots archie just can do with super emerald on ultra
Right?
THE GOD PALACE PROTO PALACE ZONE get it because its the prototybe of sonic 2 hehehe i hate myself
Sonic walking smootly already scared the shat out of me
Then they disappeared off the face of the earth
SEGA:YOU BROKE IT LITTLE-
this looks so interesting
That’s sad…
I've always wanted to make that cutscene in a room hack. I tried in rr 1, but I lacked the technical knowhow then. Should do it, eventually.
I was expecting the emerald to be like *YOU'RE GOING TO BRAZIL* & just drag Sonic while he screams in agony like this:
ua-cam.com/video/_kME6JH-eaw/v-deo.html
lol
Kinda sad to know that this is fake, because your execution of the idea matches perfectly with both the devlore and the logical course of things: I especially liked how Sonic seemed to panic when he, and I quote my own little idea, "transformed for the first time ever".
Also, the face being the center of the Super transformation glow (hence why it "disappears") makes sense, when we see how Modern Sonic's eye color changes between forms. Could the glow come from the eyes themselves?
All in all, this is a wonderful "what-if" video, and I am saddened that the idea was scrapped at all.
This was meant to happen in
prototypes of this game, and how are you sure it's fake
@@CJ_7521 Several tropes that make the video unbelievable.
needs more crappy vhs filters from the app store
My opinion is that the music heard during the cut scene itself is the level music for when you're playing, and the cut scene music is a track cut from an 8-bit sonic game; either Sonic 1, Sonic 2 or Sonic and Tails. Go to "The Cutting Room Floor" to look it up; it's a song near the end of the list of tracks, but sounds off. This sounds more to me like the cut scene music that was supposed to be used in the cut scene here, and the level music while playing is as it would be when playing the final game, and using game genie codes to access the hidden zone.
(Final Sonic 2 track 10 hex) = Hidden Palace Gameplay BGM
scapped 8 bit track = Hidden Palace Cut Scene BGM
EDIT - I should've said "My opinion is that the music heard during the cut scene itself *should've been* the level music for when you're playing, and the cut scene music *should've been* a track cut from an 8-bit sonic game"
I always love the fleetway twist on super sonic where its like a evil split personality (similar to banner and early hulk)
error code is "help"
Man I swear this is the first 1080p60 video of hidden palace I've seen
I'm sick of people still recording a genesis game at 30fps man
This is the prototype
They removed tails leaving you behind when you went away, it's like the multiplayer but you control both sonic and tails lol
Def nightmare fuel 🤣
Nightmare paralysis demon type of stuff lol
Though this is definitely a mockup it's interesting for sure
Finally a horror series that isn't on its last episode said to come out...never, I'm excited to actually watch a horror series develop from the beginning
You bet I'm interested