Hidden Palace Zone Was Originally Going To Be Between Mystic Cave Zone And Oil Ocean Zone when it was in development but sadly do to time constraints they had to scrap the level but accidentally left pieces of the level in game and why after you completed Hidden Palace Zone You were Sent to Oil Ocean so thats a giveaway
actually it was apparently meant to be an area you'd go after getting all 7 chaos emeralds and you were supposedly meant to beat it in order to unlock super sonic
And it was scraped because of the memory space being to low for it so actually the killer is hill top because it is using recolored emerald hill sprites to save memory
The reason Hidden Palace Zone looks like that is because all the sprites that were intended to be in that level were either removed or scraped for another level. If they didn't just wipe out the memory then we would had a hidden stage (no pun intended) but we only have that sweet sweet song.
Yeah. It's just something about looking at those textures and listening to that music, and how you know someone put the effort in to make them, only for it to be unused in the final game and the remains were buried under the games code only to be found years later.
I tried to enter Hidden Palace by cartridge swapping on a real SEGA but always froze on the Level start screen. :( What I find odd and interesting in this video is how Hidden Palace is exactly the SAME as it was in Sonic 2 Beta, like how everything else (or almost everything) changed from Sonic 2 Beta to Sonic 2 Final but it seems that Hidden Palace stopped completely it's development. Really odd and sad, and probably the tiles set were deleted due memory space.
MysticRixel dude you can access it on the mobile part Go and work your way to mystic cave and fall down the spike pit where we all hate and would get stuck as super sonic there then there is hidden palace
@@believer1056 yeah but the mobile one is totally different of what hidden palace zone was supposed to be in sonic 2, in fact, the mobile version is more an easter egg than an actual reproduction of the one in Sonic 2
would have been epic if this stage lay more or less completed for years until 2000+ only for people to discover the stage oh well sega this music is possibly one of the dopest
Der eigentliche Killer der Hidden Palace war die Hill Top Zone, weil für Hidden Palace kein Speicher mehr da war. Und da Hill Top Grafiken der Emerald Hill verwendete, passte es so.
This proves that Track 10 ended up being Hidden Palace's main theme in the end right before the zone got scrapped. Mystic Cave 2P theme did got used in the prototypes, but that must be a placeholder theme for Hidden Palace and then they ended up deciding to use Track 10 as Hidden Palace's theme officially.
The August and September debunked that theory though. The August prototype has both Hidden Palace that uses MCZ2P theme and Track 10 in the sound test which debunk the placeholder theory,the September prototype is where Hidden Palace wasn’t accessible anymore but if you force to load the stage you’ll get a purple screen that still plays the MCZ2P theme which proves that Hidden Palace kept using that theme before getting removed.
Yeah but the music was only a place holder at the time and i think what we all want is the music In the CENSOR build hidden palace finally got it's music but it also began its destruction
Or use these codes: FFFE10:0800 (keep this code off before you enter emerald hill when your on emerald hill do the same thing in the video) Or a quicker way (press death egg on level select): REV 00: ACLA-ATDR REV 01: ACLA-ATD4
I think the 2p Mystic Cave was used at least as placeholder since it is heard in the earlier builds of the game with the more complete version of the stage but yeah. That video is perfect proof what the final version of the Hidden Palace soundtrack would've been. Quite a shame they did not implement the soundtrack into the mobile port but just went with the 2p Mystic Cave soundtrack instead.
@Markus Yiii! Was a kool kameo. Still wish it was its own level instead of a part of mystic cave. Also wish they used the original Musik loll. But aye still was a dope addition 🤣
@@Aarosh123playz Theres no way to get to it, hes probably thinking of the mobile version, the whole zone is just corrupted beyond repair because its all mostly deleted.
@@thingamaballs5265 i mean maybe? But from the vanilla game it's practically impossible. Since sega never finished the level, and mutilated it in the final. (And I appologize if that first comment came off as rash, old comments :s)
If you use IOS and access debug just go to death egg or mystic cave mystic cave has a hole that sends u to hidden palace debug in death placing a finish sign or egg capsule will take you to hidden palace and hidden palace was complete on the IOS and it's playable so try it
The developer's removed all the graphics and collision, in order to save data. All that remains is the colour pallete, and item date. Whats loaded onto the screen is whatever has been put in place of the Hidden Palace tiles data ect.
@seibi182 I have a doubt because when correcting the beta version for eliminating areas also did not remove its bgm also if you pay attention in this version is the music of hidden palace zone in sonic 2
If you think about it, it makes sense to find a Hidden Palace inside a Mystic Cave. The current transition from Mystic Cave to Oil Ocean makes no sense.
I noticed that the beta levels, act 2 was the same as act 1 with minor diffences. Hidden Palace Zone however act 2 of beta was like a shorted version of act 1
There are three acts in the beta. The first one is the original. The second one is a shorter first one. The third one is the first one but without enemies and you spawn in a wall.
In version 1.0.5 in zone mystic cave was place there Sonic fell down and got into this zone. And now there are thorns on this place, which are stoning the passage to the palace. And after the cave there is an ocean.
Can you guys be nicer to kids I mean if your gonna call them a noob HELP them if you guys don't help/be nice to them plus they will get older so don't undermestamate them they will grow in size *look I may be a kid myself but idc you people need more respect even people without hearts and don't even want kids but watch it if you feel In love with a female and kiss you might get kids I might be wrong but you get the point :)*
Master HD! No, his comment makes perfect sense. And you're a hypocrite because you're last comment you were yelled at him because YOU didn't know anything.
Rumor has it that Hidden Palace was scrapped because Tails was originally meant to be the Guardian of the Master Emerald yet that was changed when Knuckles was introduced. I have no idea if that's true though, but an interesting thought!
6:00 I know! In IOS/Android versions, you can play Hidden Place act1! Don't need stage select. Just go to Mystic Cave act2, go to a bridge (i can't hive coords) but don't open it! Jump into it, you don't die! You fall into Hidden Place act1! If you finish Hidden Place act1, you skipped Mystic Cave act2 and you contiune with Oil Ocean act1!
the reason you go straight to oil ocean zone is cuz HPZ was originally supposed to be a hidden level hiddent in the infamous "pit" in mystic caves.... if u fall into the pit u get sent to HPZ.... and once u beat it the next stage is oil ocean...
![Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (PROTOTYPES) LOST BITS | Cut Content & Unused Zones [TetraBitGaming]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/eq2KHYK0yK0/mqdefault.jpg)
It's kinda funny how fitting the name Hidden Palace actually is...
yey
@@Pēm̐cā huh?
Its Proto Palace
@@giovannicorreia2680 no
@@thevlogingfamily2921 this called proto palace
Hidden Palace Zone Was Originally Going To Be Between Mystic Cave Zone And Oil Ocean Zone when it was in development but sadly do to time constraints they had to scrap the level but accidentally left pieces of the level in game and why after you completed Hidden Palace Zone You were Sent to Oil Ocean so thats a giveaway
actually it was apparently meant to be an area you'd go after getting all 7 chaos emeralds and you were supposedly meant to beat it in order to unlock super sonic
And it was scraped because of the memory space being to low for it so actually the killer is hill top because it is using recolored emerald hill sprites to save memory
@@johnnyXTRM no just no
@@TheZombersLMAO are you going against the info I heard online somewhere one time?
It actually was
The reason Hidden Palace Zone looks like that is because all the sprites that were intended to be in that level were either removed or scraped for another level. If they didn't just wipe out the memory then we would had a hidden stage (no pun intended) but we only have that sweet sweet song.
You can barely see parts of the background and general stage layout also
its so sad to see what's left of this beloved stage. I wish it was in the game.
Yeah. It's just something about looking at those textures and listening to that music, and how you know someone put the effort in to make them, only for it to be unused in the final game and the remains were buried under the games code only to be found years later.
@@Smashlander
And of course, song ID number 10 in the sound select. Kind of a, haha, it's missing, thing.
Welcome to Sega, Newborn! (go to the mobile version of s2 and search stuff and boom 💥. u might never respond)
Hidden palaze zone SONG FAVORITE
Track 10 is the music heard in the final version of Sonic 2. I guess it's a Hidden Palace.
All these ten year olds thinking that the remastered version is the same thing...
Lol
im nine and I know that the remasterd version is completely different. If you type a code in the level select proto palace is playable.
The bloxy beast1227 ya'know..it's remastered,notrematerd and it's not fake,there's no alpha but prototype and remake.
I'm 2 and I know the remastered version is different.
Dave Gallagher i'm 11 and i know that the remastered version is fake -.-
Sonic 2 Long Version is a hack of Sonic 2 which adds in the missing beta zones. Even if it's not what you're looking for, it's worth seeing.
I tried to enter Hidden Palace by cartridge swapping on a real SEGA but always froze on the Level start screen. :(
What I find odd and interesting in this video is how Hidden Palace is exactly the SAME as it was in Sonic 2 Beta, like how everything else (or almost everything) changed from Sonic 2 Beta to Sonic 2 Final but it seems that Hidden Palace stopped completely it's development. Really odd and sad, and probably the tiles set were deleted due memory space.
Use the game genie code, look on Sonic retro
MysticRixel dude you can access it on the mobile part
Go and work your way to mystic cave and fall down the spike pit where we all hate and would get stuck as super sonic there then there is hidden palace
@@believer1056 yeah but the mobile one is totally different of what hidden palace zone was supposed to be in sonic 2, in fact, the mobile version is more an easter egg than an actual reproduction of the one in Sonic 2
3Crafters oh
rip hidden place
would have been epic if this stage lay more or less completed for years until 2000+ only for people to discover the stage
oh well sega this music is possibly one of the dopest
Der eigentliche Killer der Hidden Palace war die Hill Top Zone, weil für Hidden Palace kein Speicher mehr da war. Und da Hill Top Grafiken der Emerald Hill verwendete, passte es so.
This proves that Track 10 ended up being Hidden Palace's main theme in the end right before the zone got scrapped. Mystic Cave 2P theme did got used in the prototypes, but that must be a placeholder theme for Hidden Palace and then they ended up deciding to use Track 10 as Hidden Palace's theme officially.
The August and September debunked that theory though.
The August prototype has both Hidden Palace that uses MCZ2P theme and Track 10 in the sound test which debunk the placeholder theory,the September prototype is where Hidden Palace wasn’t accessible anymore but if you force to load the stage you’ll get a purple screen that still plays the MCZ2P theme which proves that Hidden Palace kept using that theme before getting removed.
It appears Hidden Palace is a bit,oh I don't know,smashed.
I hear they discovered some prototypes with actual playable hidden palace zones
Yeah but the music was only a place holder at the time and i think what we all want is the music
In the CENSOR build hidden palace finally got it's music but it also began its destruction
@@TheZombersLMAOThe September prototype debunked that though,that’s where HPZ got removed but still uses the MCZ2P theme.
Or use these codes: FFFE10:0800 (keep this code off before you enter emerald hill when your on emerald hill do the same thing in the video) Or a quicker way (press death egg on level select): REV 00: ACLA-ATDR REV 01: ACLA-ATD4
Show this to the angry kids that think that Mystic Cave 2p theme was the original Hidden palace theme.
I think the 2p Mystic Cave was used at least as placeholder since it is heard in the earlier builds of the game with the more complete version of the stage but yeah. That video is perfect proof what the final version of the Hidden Palace soundtrack would've been. Quite a shame they did not implement the soundtrack into the mobile port but just went with the 2p Mystic Cave soundtrack instead.
@@sethhorst6158 Yes i agree. Also I think they were planning to put the 2p mystic cave soundtrack at the dust hill, an other scrapped zone
@Sonic exe source?
@@niwi7642 its literally confirmed everywhere you go
@@thegamercitizen3068
Interesting, because i cant find ANY Place where its stated "Track 10 is Cutscene Only"
I don't need this oil ocean, i need hidden palace zone!
I don't know how to get to the stage select
Boi hidden palace is deleted so it's glitchy
@@anriboci5807 yeah. But it's not in prototypes ;) we can try it out there...? Mobile version has it tho
Well I know a way use sonic erasel editor 2 you can restore it
@@anriboci5807 wow, i have it but idk how
That darn Robotnik killed Hidden Palace by filling it with oil!
He didn't it's scrapped by the publisher sega cuz they had no time to finish it
@@anriboci5807 its a joke
@@anriboci5807 r/woooosh
They should've kept hidden palace in the final game. 😔😔😔 Would've been so cool
@Markus Yiii! Was a kool kameo. Still wish it was its own level instead of a part of mystic cave. Also wish they used the original Musik loll. But aye still was a dope addition 🤣
@ZAPPSOFT Actually the space was not the issue; time was. They couldn't fully finish these stages before the release date and scrapped them.
Hidden palace Zone was mostly removed. And it’s majorly corrupted.
@@victorleonardo9676 what cheat codes are you talking about?
@@Aarosh123playz Theres no way to get to it, hes probably thinking of the mobile version, the whole zone is just corrupted beyond repair because its all mostly deleted.
@@rivet6403 makes sense
@@rivet6403 Well, I think he's talking about _restoring_ the zone, which is possible through certain programs.
@@thingamaballs5265 i mean maybe? But from the vanilla game it's practically impossible. Since sega never finished the level, and mutilated it in the final. (And I appologize if that first comment came off as rash, old comments :s)
2:41 what have you done the clouds are glitchy
If you use IOS and access debug just go to death egg or mystic cave mystic cave has a hole that sends u to hidden palace debug in death placing a finish sign or egg capsule will take you to hidden palace and hidden palace was complete on the IOS and it's playable so try it
It wasn’t this broken in the betas
In fact I think the devs just DELETED zone data to save memory but also
Make it unplayable
The developer's removed all the graphics and collision, in order to save data. All that remains is the colour pallete, and item date. Whats loaded onto the screen is whatever has been put in place of the Hidden Palace tiles data ect.
@@blooga3941 mobile sonic 2 with accessible hidden palace: am I a joke to you?
Yes.
Hey I don’t know if you can hear me but what is the hidden Pallice take place on angel island Please respond
@seibi182 I have a doubt because when correcting the beta version for eliminating areas also did not remove its bgm also if you pay attention in this version is the music of hidden palace zone in sonic 2
the deletion of hidden palace was rushed thus it was still playable, we'll kinda? Either way, everything is basically fucked up there now.
the oil ocean is next. why? hidden palace meant to by after mystic cave and then it uses oil ocean things. (btw sry for bad english).
I own both, but how do you want me to record this? DVD Recorder?
R Kelly could rock the shit out of this beat for a song.
you can listen to the music in the sound test and put 10 and play it
If you think about it, it makes sense to find a Hidden Palace inside a Mystic Cave. The current transition from Mystic Cave to Oil Ocean makes no sense.
the ominous song fits well for a scrapped level like this, its kind of creepy...
The "ominous song" is actually the original Hidden Palace soundtrack. :3
Can u transfer the art from the beta to the final game??
sonic 2 long play edition
With dissasemblys, new tools, etc. you can, even with Esrael Sonic Editor 2.
all of removed zone appears?
Hidden palace zone gave me a headache
The Same for me,Dude.
you can acess the deleted hidden palace zone by game genie too.
Only in Kega Fusion
No you can use Sega mega drive
how did hidden palace zone the next zone is oil Ocean? because there is a secret to get hidden palace in mystic cave zone
You complete hedden zone you go to that zone
Hedden.... ._.
hidden
i was young and i didn't know how to spell hidden
I mean...it shows up multiple times in this video.
3 months after the comment and you're suddenly older
Hello,i'm trying to get the Hex part of the video.
where can i get one and whats a save state?
Geht das auch mit Game Genie?
I can't believe it!
We need to discover this zone to know what hidden palace was like!
ethan joshua ua-cam.com/video/xyhkJEasqGc/v-deo.html
lecorbak That version is mostly fanmade.
ethan joshua
how can you say ?
lecorbak The creator said it was made for the game. The game is Sonic 2 Delta, a Fanhack.
sonic 2 for ios, mystic cave zone act 2 fall down a hole, found it
Only sega held on to the ONLY copy with ALL 5 (or 6) Scrapped levels this is not possible.
Of all the zones they could delete...
Funny too that it was one of the most complete zones in the earliest prototype
Whats proto palace is normal version
Do you NEED a hex editer?
yes
You don't need a hex editer but you need the hex editor
I think oil ocean was there because it was meant to be in between Mystic cave and oil ocean, like in the 2013 version.
I noticed that the beta levels, act 2 was the same as act 1 with minor diffences. Hidden Palace Zone however act 2 of beta was like a shorted version of act 1
There are three acts in the beta.
The first one is the original.
The second one is a shorter first one.
The third one is the first one but without enemies and you spawn in a wall.
@@hl5217 7 years later
Another reason I suscribed you!
Imagine If The Hidden Palace Was Released And Actually Looked Like That Lol
Hidden palace broken because it was removed
This can be accessed by using a Game Genie too.
Also, the level layout in Act 1 is still intact, and the music, but the graphics are completely gone... In the final version at least.
Cart Memory, Story didn't fit out (could do a big mess into another sequels, like Half-Life), and some more tecnical problems... :(
They even had the music finished, are you kidding me?
In the 2013 re-release of this game is so much easier!
i did the debug then did the code and i went to hidden palace and it was fine but it was titled proto palace on mobile and it works on mania
I did the EXACT SAME THING!!!!!!!!!!!!! and it did not work... I tried the level select code and debug but it only made the game slow D:
its because of timing
Sega deleted them so there would be time to release the final product
@DylanPlayzYT also one zone would of had to get the boot
Weird considering that they had it from the earliest known beta.
Nick arcade and simon wai? Cuz its only there
Hidden Palace was never finished so it didn’t end up in sonic 2
where do i get one that is free?
hidden palace zone in censor prototype of sonic 2 is the same only it i a little bit diffrent
can you show me a savestate with it for the censor beta? how did you access hidden palace in the beta, i tried doing it but i could not.
@@lucamihailmurafa here: www.mediafire.com/file/irijafl5lpjawcb/hiddenpalacecensor.gsx/file
that's a great frame rate there
This video is from 2008, what did you expect?
@@selbi182Can’t believe you still access to this account.
Thank you for uploading this video.
maybe that explains the creepypasta "Translated by google translator"
sonic 3 & Sonic & Knuckles were split into 2 game because of time and space on the cartrage
In version 1.0.5 in zone mystic cave was place there Sonic fell down and got into this zone. And now there are thorns on this place, which are stoning the passage to the palace. And after the cave there is an ocean.
I miss that website...
They could've pushed back the relese date
They should've.
hidden palace more like broken glitched palace
The amount of chromosomes in the comment section is too damn high!
In any comment section to be honest
There is a bad word in this vid
Ok who cares
How do you get perfect bonus?
no damage
Finish with every ring on an act.
@@actual123adi9 but only on the 1st act and the 2nd act
On the 1st level
Thumbs Up If You See A Bit of Eggman and Knuckles 4:23
Yes.
Why sega want to delete all the beta zones
that zones make the game more interesting
An easier alternative would be to use game genie.
Can you guys be nicer to kids I mean if your gonna call them a noob HELP them if you guys don't help/be nice to them plus they will get older so don't undermestamate them they will grow in size *look I may be a kid myself but idc you people need more respect even people without hearts and don't even want kids but watch it if you feel In love with a female and kiss you might get kids I might be wrong but you get the point :)*
Uhh what?
?
Just saying... that made zero sense...
You make zero sense...see this is why comment sections should not been added *because of arguments being started*
Master HD! No, his comment makes perfect sense. And you're a hypocrite because you're last comment you were yelled at him because YOU didn't know anything.
3:27 You son of a GLITCH!!
This is genis? As in me?
What about gor megadrive?
What is gor?
It means for sorry typo
Well then I don't really understand the question, this is already for the Megadrive.
Sonic 2 was on megadrive (genesis)
And this video shows you how to access Hidden Palace for Sonic 2 on Megadrive/Genesis. I'm really confused right now.
That's a best bet, than stick the DVD footage in Windows movie maker, and then stick it on youtub
And what a "Save State"?
Okay, okay, 3 ways to get to HPZ ;P
HOLY F**K IT'S STILL THERE
thanks! i love u
Rumor has it that Hidden Palace was scrapped because Tails was originally meant to be the Guardian of the Master Emerald yet that was changed when Knuckles was introduced. I have no idea if that's true though, but an interesting thought!
Nop the reason it doesnt exits is that there hasnt too many cartridge space and they just left that there like a scrapped paper
@@LeoLemons no its cuz the wanted to get the game out by Christmas and did not have much time
Just a fan theory my friend, sorry!
@@LeoLemons It is because it was not finished in time
To access hidden palace zone you can also fail in a pit in mystic cave zone
Right ????
Hidden Palace in Sonic 2 iOS/Android: How to Find and Play
i noticed the cannon thing
Too bad this stage was deleted
6:00 I know! In IOS/Android versions, you can play Hidden Place act1! Don't need stage select. Just go to Mystic Cave act2, go to a bridge (i can't hive coords) but don't open it! Jump into it, you don't die! You fall into Hidden Place act1! If you finish Hidden Place act1, you skipped Mystic Cave act2 and you contiune with Oil Ocean act1!
This is for the original Sega Genesis version
It's for mobile version only
-_- im talking about mobile idiots
Yucel Agirel it's not act 1! it has boss
Its called "Proto Palace" in iOS, not "Hidden" palace...
the reason you go straight to oil ocean zone is cuz HPZ was originally supposed to be a hidden level hiddent in the infamous "pit" in mystic caves.... if u fall into the pit u get sent to HPZ.... and once u beat it the next stage is oil ocean...
that is the widescreen remake
really you were teleported the after getting the seven chaos emeralds
Then sonic would learn super sonic
I use genesis
It will crash
Lol du hast einen deutschen Computer^^
robin hood Vielleicht weil ich deutsch bin?
Selbi cool :-)
Übrigens danke, jetzt weiss ich wie ich zur Hidden Palace zone gehen kann!
SonicPlushBros hey! You! 😂
SonicPlushBros hi ^^
*Oil Ocean!!! WTF??!?* Um dude there's only 2 acts. After that is the next stage Wtf is your problem?!?
This video is 9 years old. Wtf is *your* problem?
all i did was watched it *idoit* jeezz
Why are you being so hostile?
Why are you insulting me? What did I even do?
Selbi Nothing they're stupid kids that get mad when I
A video is not exactly what they thought it is.
Sorry i DON'T have a computer i have a phone my computer is broken
2019?