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OT: My first bike, Honda C70 back in 1979, gave me the Freedom to get out and about. I never thought about speed and power. One trip, I managed Hard Knott & Wrynose....great fun... with tent etc strapped on the back. True, you don't need massive power....but it's nice! Since then, like many folks, I passed through 500cc, 1000cc etc and now a V7 STONE Special and T120 in the garage Must be getting old 😂 P.S. love the (mystery) ride outs Back in Yorkshire next week (Canada) to visit mum....but no bike 😢
A version of the Panther long stroke sloper but modern would be great. Leaning the engine at 45 degrees means a whacking great stroke without a tall frame. Just love the feel and pull of longstroke singles
I might be the odd one out here TBW, i just dont think a 'modern classic' should ever be water cooled no matter the styling. The BSA just doesn't do anything for me especially the horrendous USB brick block on the handlebar let alone the radiator. With respect to the potentially new classic 650, it all depends on the chassis & weight if it uses the super meteor frame. Time will tell. Cheers!
I think the 450 would make more sense. The 650 whilst charming is a bit lardy. All the extra tin work of a classic would make it as heavy as the SM which is just too heavy. But ….. on the other hand would you want a radiator on a classic?. Look at the BSA 🥴
Maybe have a Single Cylinder 650 Classic? That would have gobs of torque. I'd buy that. Ride safe Dave and keep the rubber side down. Cheers from the States.
Always bigger and better, but why? How about smaller and better adapted? Coming from a mk1 650 V-Strom, the first press image of the Hunter was love at first sight. A test ride sealed the deal, though I did have progressive Hagons fitted as part of that deal. It's the perfect bike for me, comfortable, exceptionally nimble (despite its 180kg) and a great tractor-like plodder for pottering for hours down leafy lanes, especially the hidden ones with grass down the middle. But it's also exhilarating, pushing the bike to its limits when having a blast on tight and winding B roads. The 20hp bike felt strangled at first, but with the now obligatory mods, open air filter, fuelX, and decat open flow exhaust (a stainless steel 225mm oval Delkevic), the bike now runs absolutely freely, possibly with as much as 24hp on tap. It's now the perfect bike for me, built for purpose, not speed.
The Guerilla engine would drop into the Hunter without any compromise to the classic styling ,That classic 650 looks to me to be to close to the Shotgun in looks what say you TBW ?😉 Really like that there Guerilla👍
The Classic 350 looks better. The 650 SM,Shotgun and now this Classic look off. I generally dont like the looks of the 650 engine but the Intercepter and GT look good
I've been keenly anticipating the arrival of the Classic 650 since the rumours began to do the rounds. My thinking is that if RE can pull off the overall look and classic styling as they did with the 350, then I'd be definitely interested in buying one. Looking at the 'spy shot', I'm not entirely convinced they've pulled it off. That bike looks a bit too similar to a Shotgun or Super Meteor. I will however, reserve my opinion until I can look at one up close once they're released. If it doesn't 'tickle my pickles' as you so eloquently put it Dave, there will definitely be space for a Classic 350 in my shed!
The Classic and Shotgun will essentially be swapping engines, a Shotgun 350 is in the works too, as well as a bullet 650. It seems like they are making every style of bike in every engine size. I myself am anticipating the Scram 440, a development of the air/oil cooled 411 engine, an inbetween the Scram 411 and Guerilla 450. Supposedly coming out in January, but with the number of bikes RE are releasing soon, I'm guessing it will probably be a bit later.
Today I'm not feeling any desire for a 650 cc RE Classic or any big motorcycle. The 350 with 30 hp would be plenty. I owned a Kawasaki 500 cc cruiser that had 50 hp. It weighed about the same as the RE 350 models. The 350 models need another ten horsepower. I think that my 125 cc scooter is an awesome commuter motorcycle. The small size and weight make it so easy to move around. The downside to it is the short travel suspension and small wheels make the ride really rough at times. For those reasons I would like to try an RE 350.
I agree that the RE 650 twin is a little bit vanilla. It has a 270 degree crank and makes it's torque too high in the rev band. It is undoubtedly a good engine but it lacks the low end grunt I so dearly love. A 450 single would make a lot more sense for people of my mind set. BJ
I'm tending to agree with you regarding using the 452 engine in a classic guise. The newest 650 twins are too heavy coming in at 240 and 241kg against the Interceptor weight (220), this puts them at the same weight as the 900cc adventure bikes but without the power of these bikes. The classic 350 is a charming bike but as you say people should be aware of it's performance shortcomings (if that is a consideration) before purchase. I know of 2 classic 350s that were traded in after very low mileage due to a lack of performance, I know 'cos I bought one and saved a packet!
Looks good. I think they've pulled it off. As others have said though, the weight might be an issue - especially if they've done the usual RE thing and made both fenders out of steel? Other than that, I can't see any other way they could have shed the extra 20kg that the SM carries. Would we accept plastic fenders if it kept the weight down to slightly more than the Interceptor? If not, it would need a power increase to offset the weight - maybe a capacity increase to 750cc? Love that you pulled up to do a U-turn to access that road to Kirkby Malzeard you've not travelled down before. Accessible biking - that's what it's all about. I still very much enjoy riding Ernie the Classic 350 and it's still my go-to bike for exploring. I have overtaken things occasionally on mine too - it just takes a lot of planning. And it certainly does do 0-60 mph, it's just not something that can be measured... 😂
If RE try and sell us that ‘ spy shot’ bike as a classic they are heading down a dead end road. There is a market for a big single oil cooled or air cooled ( emissions dependant of course ) big capacity classic … like the gold star but with RE supply and support.
Morning Dave, as you know, I too have been harping on about a Classic 650 for a couple of years now 🙄 constantly waiting for it to show up 😂. Unlike your good self, I am not sure a “Classic 450” would sell that well. I think that purists would hate it, and newcomers wouldn’t understand it. I can see RE doing more with that magnificent Sherpa engine though…….how about a “GT” along the lines of the 535 🤔, the revvy characteristics would really suit a bike of that ilk in my humble opinion. It will be interesting to see what develops.
I think with a bit of thought the Sherpa in a Classic would scratch the bullet 500 itch….the rad (essentially there to endure emissions are controlled) could easily be disguised I think
It's a no from me. The C350 is that rare thing where a manufactuer comes up with a package that, by design, luck, star alignment or whatever, is just perfect. The 650 just doesn't look right in that package. It would be interesting to see what they could do with a clean sheet though, desert sled anyone?
I have been thinking & the thought has crossed my mind , that happen here said RE rep was sounding you out , as potential You Tube reviewer for 650 sized Classic . This was possibly in the hopes you would be so enthralled with it , that you would get rid of CF 800 in case & before cams showed signs of melting to replace it with new classic 650 . I reckon you have thrown him a curved ball with your suggestion of issuing a classic styled with new 450 lump in situ. Me myself reckon any new classic needs to have a long stroke single bucket oil cooled lump in it , as it would be more in keeping with classic old Brit styled single plodder , for slugging up steep hills ,such as those in Yorkshire , Lancashire & Wales . 👍
Maybe the stealerships can add/subtract bits & bobs to create a "new" bike? Not overly impressed with the new RE marketing... A new 500/650 Single Classic may be more appealing?
Thinking with a western head. Their main market is India and RE manufacture nearly 1m bikes a year, in comparison HD manufacture about 160k. There will be plenty of takers.
your right about the ' vanilla ' ,,,, the 650 is great up to the 46/47 bhp mark , then that's it , up the compression to 11 to one , give it 60 bhp and stop worrying about the a2 bit , otherwise it's just another bit of fill in ;; what's the point ?
Sorry but as a Classic 350 owner for over the last two years I will not be interested in the 650 twin Classic, totally wrong type of engine as far as I am concerned. I also would not be interested in a 450 Classic as again this engine is too higher revving compared to the long stroke j series engine. The only reason I can think that the j series engines failing is if you must do over 70 miles an hour, then you need a different engine. I will stick with my 350 even if the 650 was the same price as 350 and ditto if they put a 450 engine in a Classic 350. The thing about the Classic 350 is the zen like quality this bike possess, after a 180 mile round trip to my Brothers this week the bike never missed a beat and I was as fresh as a daisy and I am 70 years old , that for me typifies the Classic 350. 😊
Last Thursday i saw about a dozen Enfields travelling east along theA66 just near Penrith. All the same colour, cream and sort of a metallic brown , very retro colour design. Appears to be Medallion bronze colourway. For a moment i thoght they were the new 650 classic but they must have been 350 classic. Some sort of official rideout?
I think the interceptor is due a refresh… we know the engine can go out to 750 and 865 with off the shelf parts so why not do that and give it a slight refresh at the same time? Don’t do what Triunph have done with the Speed Twin 1200 though and fit a TFT.. that would ruin it.
As an American with no cultural or historical ties to RE I don’t understand why they would make a Classic 650. It seems to me that it’s pretty similar to the Interceptor and Shotgun. Are the styling differences that important to people? I think the low power is at least half the appeal of the Classic 350 reborn. If people were complaining that the new Classic didn’t have enough thump I don’t know what they’ll think when it sounds like an angry sewing machine.
@@thebingleywheeler RE is doing pretty much what HD does by using the same motor across multiple lines of motorbikes. It makes sense and if it makes a lot of cents, it'll continue. If not, they will choose what models sell best and stick with those. I have seen some photos of the bike where it does appear to have spoke TUBELESS wheels. If so, that is a big selling point. SS in commiefornia, USA.
Hi Dave yes, I saw the spy shot yesterday morning , il be hopefully getting one of these 650's cant wait, i don't think they will increase the engine size on the classic 350 personally this 650 is it ,too many bikes then in the range, il be speaking to eddy's, i missed my classic 500 2019 I sold, yes, i have the Gold Star, but i've been dying to see these come out they're going be great sellers in my opinion. hope to test one as soon as they arrive. im sure theyl have other colours available as well as the spy shot bikes, great chat Dave. Phil Green
Well thats you out of favour with RE!!! Like the 350, you should know what your getting before you part with your cash. A 350 with a bit more cruising speed ( say 60 _ 65 mph) would fit the bill for me too. I like the look of the J series engine it is "classic" , but a 450 motor in that frame might detract from the style Just my thoughts!! Regards Mike N
The spy shots look like a super meteor with spoked wheels. Not exactly a new model IMO. The guerrilla is the most interesting bike in the RE stable and a few more models using that engine would be my preference.
Hmmmm 650 classic 2 years to late and some what over weight . Just taken a look at my local dealers interceptors and and Gt's for £5000. £600 off the shotgun, the 650cc Enfield market is chocker with unsold machines. Time of a bigger head (about 800cc) and 75-80 bhp.
That's the entire market, inflation hitting hard. I'm in Aus and some bikes like the Cfmoto 450mt and Triumph 400 are selling out, whilst other bikes aren't moving. the scram 411 comes to mind
I wanted a classic 450.. 350 is little small also 650 is too much because being retro its gonna weigh near 250 kgs..also mileage of 20km/litre..naah sorry RE
Couldnt agree with you more about putting 450 sherpa engine in new classic , take a leaf out of BSA's book and hide the cyl head with fins, theyve managed it with the Rotax engine !
you miss your chance with that r.e. rep what i wouid of said is untill you lot stop messing about like you have done with moto GB and when dearlers are kicking R.E. OUT and lads not getting warranty for weeks then forget new bikes look after the customer you got already because if you dont then i and many others will not be buying another R.E.motorbike
OT: My first bike, Honda C70 back in 1979, gave me the Freedom to get out and about. I never thought about speed and power. One trip, I managed Hard Knott & Wrynose....great fun... with tent etc strapped on the back. True, you don't need massive power....but it's nice!
Since then, like many folks, I passed through 500cc, 1000cc etc and now a V7 STONE Special and T120 in the garage
Must be getting old 😂
P.S. love the (mystery) ride outs
Back in Yorkshire next week (Canada) to visit mum....but no bike 😢
kay, I’ve always scratched my head about the obsession around the kislux book totes and their practicality, but this one is adorable!! Congratulations
A version of the Panther long stroke sloper but modern would be great.
Leaning the engine at 45 degrees means a whacking great stroke without a tall frame.
Just love the feel and pull of longstroke singles
In fact in that pitures seems to be some Super Meteor's with modified footrest 😂
I might be the odd one out here TBW, i just dont think a 'modern classic' should ever be water cooled no matter the styling. The BSA just doesn't do anything for me especially the horrendous USB brick block on the handlebar let alone the radiator.
With respect to the potentially new classic 650, it all depends on the chassis & weight if it uses the super meteor frame.
Time will tell.
Cheers!
I think the 450 would make more sense. The 650 whilst charming is a bit lardy. All the extra tin work of a classic would make it as heavy as the SM which is just too heavy. But ….. on the other hand would you want a radiator on a classic?. Look at the BSA 🥴
Maybe have a Single Cylinder 650 Classic? That would have gobs of torque. I'd buy that. Ride safe Dave and keep the rubber side down. Cheers from the States.
Need to be water cooled to pass emissions, as well as a large exhaust
@@chrispekel5709 Thanks for the info. Cheers
For the bullet and classic 500 you can get a 612cc stroker kit from hitchcocks, tanking it to about 35ish hp
Always bigger and better, but why? How about smaller and better adapted? Coming from a mk1 650 V-Strom, the first press image of the Hunter was love at first sight. A test ride sealed the deal, though I did have progressive Hagons fitted as part of that deal. It's the perfect bike for me, comfortable, exceptionally nimble (despite its 180kg) and a great tractor-like plodder for pottering for hours down leafy lanes, especially the hidden ones with grass down the middle. But it's also exhilarating, pushing the bike to its limits when having a blast on tight and winding B roads. The 20hp bike felt strangled at first, but with the now obligatory mods, open air filter, fuelX, and decat open flow exhaust (a stainless steel 225mm oval Delkevic), the bike now runs absolutely freely, possibly with as much as 24hp on tap. It's now the perfect bike for me, built for purpose, not speed.
Interesting mods there buddy 👍🏻
The Guerilla engine would drop into the Hunter without any compromise to the classic styling ,That classic 650 looks to me to be to close to the Shotgun in looks what say you TBW ?😉 Really like that there Guerilla👍
I disagree.
Sticking a water cooled lump and rad in the classic would kill its retro appeal instantly
Thank's for the ride! I was interested in the 350 but I have been leaning towards an adventure bike and not one of the big boy's.
The Classic 350 looks better. The 650 SM,Shotgun and now this Classic look off. I generally dont like the looks of the 650 engine but the Intercepter and GT look good
I've been keenly anticipating the arrival of the Classic 650 since the rumours began to do the rounds. My thinking is that if RE can pull off the overall look and classic styling as they did with the 350, then I'd be definitely interested in buying one. Looking at the 'spy shot', I'm not entirely convinced they've pulled it off. That bike looks a bit too similar to a Shotgun or Super Meteor. I will however, reserve my opinion until I can look at one up close once they're released. If it doesn't 'tickle my pickles' as you so eloquently put it Dave, there will definitely be space for a Classic 350 in my shed!
The Classic and Shotgun will essentially be swapping engines, a Shotgun 350 is in the works too, as well as a bullet 650. It seems like they are making every style of bike in every engine size. I myself am anticipating the Scram 440, a development of the air/oil cooled 411 engine, an inbetween the Scram 411 and Guerilla 450. Supposedly coming out in January, but with the number of bikes RE are releasing soon, I'm guessing it will probably be a bit later.
Today I'm not feeling any desire for a 650 cc RE Classic or any big motorcycle. The 350 with 30 hp would be plenty. I owned a Kawasaki 500 cc cruiser that had 50 hp. It weighed about the same as the RE 350 models. The 350 models need another ten horsepower.
I think that my 125 cc scooter is an awesome commuter motorcycle. The small size and weight make it so easy to move around. The downside to it is the short travel suspension and small wheels make the ride really rough at times. For those reasons I would like to try an RE 350.
I agree that the RE 650 twin is a little bit vanilla. It has a 270 degree crank and makes it's torque too high in the rev band. It is undoubtedly a good engine but it lacks the low end grunt I so dearly love. A 450 single would make a lot more sense for people of my mind set.
BJ
I'm tending to agree with you regarding using the 452 engine in a classic guise. The newest 650 twins are too heavy coming in at 240 and 241kg against the Interceptor weight (220), this puts them at the same weight as the 900cc adventure bikes but without the power of these bikes. The classic 350 is a charming bike but as you say people should be aware of it's performance shortcomings (if that is a consideration) before purchase. I know of 2 classic 350s that were traded in after very low mileage due to a lack of performance, I know 'cos I bought one and saved a packet!
yeah, then you have a radiator...so not good
Looks good. I think they've pulled it off. As others have said though, the weight might be an issue - especially if they've done the usual RE thing and made both fenders out of steel? Other than that, I can't see any other way they could have shed the extra 20kg that the SM carries. Would we accept plastic fenders if it kept the weight down to slightly more than the Interceptor?
If not, it would need a power increase to offset the weight - maybe a capacity increase to 750cc?
Love that you pulled up to do a U-turn to access that road to Kirkby Malzeard you've not travelled down before. Accessible biking - that's what it's all about. I still very much enjoy riding Ernie the Classic 350 and it's still my go-to bike for exploring. I have overtaken things occasionally on mine too - it just takes a lot of planning. And it certainly does do 0-60 mph, it's just not something that can be measured... 😂
Met that Rep last week, bought a 350 classic at Eddy's at Tadcaster while he were there.
If RE try and sell us that ‘ spy shot’ bike as a classic they are heading down a dead end road. There is a market for a big single oil cooled or air cooled ( emissions dependant of course ) big capacity classic … like the gold star but with RE supply and support.
Morning Dave, as you know, I too have been harping on about a Classic 650 for a couple of years now 🙄 constantly waiting for it to show up 😂. Unlike your good self, I am not sure a “Classic 450” would sell that well. I think that purists would hate it, and newcomers wouldn’t understand it. I can see RE doing more with that magnificent Sherpa engine though…….how about a “GT” along the lines of the 535 🤔, the revvy characteristics would really suit a bike of that ilk in my humble opinion. It will be interesting to see what develops.
I think with a bit of thought the Sherpa in a Classic would scratch the bullet 500 itch….the rad (essentially there to endure emissions are controlled) could easily be disguised I think
I can't say that I'm keen on the neck camera. The helmet mount is much better imo.
Agree with that. The neck mount is too low and the view is dominated by the sat nav thing with its massive screen.
Cheers Dave , Just have to wait & see , plus the price point aswell , ride safe
It's a no from me. The C350 is that rare thing where a manufactuer comes up with a package that, by design, luck, star alignment or whatever, is just perfect. The 650 just doesn't look right in that package. It would be interesting to see what they could do with a clean sheet though, desert sled anyone?
I have been thinking & the thought has crossed my mind , that happen here said RE rep was sounding you out , as potential You Tube reviewer for 650 sized Classic . This was possibly in the hopes you would be so enthralled with it , that you would get rid of CF 800 in case & before cams showed signs of melting to replace it with new classic 650 . I reckon you have thrown him a curved ball with your suggestion of issuing a classic styled with new 450 lump in situ. Me myself reckon any new classic needs to have a long stroke single bucket oil cooled lump in it , as it would be more in keeping with classic old Brit styled single plodder , for slugging up steep hills ,such as those in Yorkshire , Lancashire & Wales . 👍
Interesting 🤔, but are they flooding their own market? X
TBH Martine I think that in the current climate they already have at least here in the UK after all shotgun sales haven't been that good xx
2 years ago when I started looking at RE there were only 5 models available in the US. Now there are 11 and we don’t even have the Guerilla yet.
Maybe the stealerships can add/subtract bits & bobs to create a "new" bike?
Not overly impressed with the new RE marketing...
A new 500/650 Single Classic may be more appealing?
Thinking with a western head. Their main market is India and RE manufacture nearly 1m bikes a year, in comparison HD manufacture about 160k. There will be plenty of takers.
your right about the ' vanilla ' ,,,, the 650 is great up to the 46/47 bhp mark , then that's it , up the compression to 11 to one , give it 60 bhp and stop worrying about the a2 bit , otherwise it's just another bit of fill in ;; what's the point ?
Sorry but as a Classic 350 owner for over the last two years I will not be interested in the 650 twin Classic, totally wrong type of engine as far as I am concerned. I also would not be interested in a 450 Classic as again this engine is too higher revving compared to the long stroke j series engine. The only reason I can think that the j series engines failing is if you must do over 70 miles an hour, then you need a different engine.
I will stick with my 350 even if the 650 was the same price as 350 and ditto if they put a 450 engine in a Classic 350. The thing about the Classic 350 is the zen like quality this bike possess, after a 180 mile round trip to my Brothers this week the bike never missed a beat and I was as fresh as a daisy and I am 70 years old , that for me typifies the Classic 350. 😊
I agree with you, a classic 450 would be a good move.
From what I can see in the photos that 650 looks rather heavy so maybe not for me but I’d be first in line for a Classic 450..! 👍
Indeed Nick if it comes in around 240kg like the SM that 650 won’t hack it 👍🏻
I want one
Last Thursday i saw about a dozen Enfields travelling east along theA66 just near Penrith. All the same colour, cream and sort of a metallic brown , very retro colour design. Appears to be Medallion bronze colourway. For a moment i thoght they were the new 650 classic but they must have been 350 classic. Some sort of official rideout?
I think the interceptor is due a refresh… we know the engine can go out to 750 and 865 with off the shelf parts so why not do that and give it a slight refresh at the same time? Don’t do what Triunph have done with the Speed Twin 1200 though and fit a TFT.. that would ruin it.
I agree Duncan they could do something special to rival the Norton
Maybe if RE brand it as a Constellation 700 they can give it some more ooomph?
As an American with no cultural or historical ties to RE I don’t understand why they would make a Classic 650. It seems to me that it’s pretty similar to the Interceptor and Shotgun. Are the styling differences that important to people? I think the low power is at least half the appeal of the Classic 350 reborn. If people were complaining that the new Classic didn’t have enough thump I don’t know what they’ll think when it sounds like an angry sewing machine.
I think they’re marketing to an imagined demand rather than a real one
@@thebingleywheeler RE is doing pretty much what HD does by using the same motor across multiple lines of motorbikes. It makes sense and if it makes a lot of cents, it'll continue. If not, they will choose what models sell best and stick with those.
I have seen some photos of the bike where it does appear to have spoke TUBELESS wheels. If so, that is a big selling point.
SS in commiefornia, USA.
Hi Dave yes,
I saw the spy shot yesterday morning , il be hopefully getting one of these 650's cant wait, i don't think they will increase the engine size on the classic 350 personally this 650 is it ,too many bikes then in the range, il be speaking to eddy's, i missed my classic 500 2019 I sold, yes, i have the Gold Star, but i've been dying to see these come out they're going be great sellers in my opinion. hope to test one as soon as they arrive. im sure theyl have other colours available as well as the spy shot bikes,
great chat Dave.
Phil Green
Cheers Phil can't wait to see it in the flesh!
Well thats you out of favour with RE!!!
Like the 350, you should know what your getting before you part with your cash.
A 350 with a bit more cruising speed ( say 60 _ 65 mph) would fit the bill for me too.
I like the look of the J series engine it is "classic" , but a 450 motor in that frame might detract from the style
Just my thoughts!!
Regards Mike N
I think you mean CRIPTID, another great vid.
The spy shots look like a super meteor with spoked wheels. Not exactly a new model IMO. The guerrilla is the most interesting bike in the RE stable and a few more models using that engine would be my preference.
I like it but I want a version of it with a bigger tank and 19 inch front well, so an updated scram
*wheel
Classic 650 cats out of the bag...we barely got a Himalayan 450 at my dealership last week for first time
Hmmmm 650 classic 2 years to late and some what over weight . Just taken a look at my local dealers interceptors and and Gt's for £5000. £600 off the shotgun, the 650cc Enfield market is chocker with unsold machines. Time of a bigger head (about 800cc) and 75-80 bhp.
That's the entire market, inflation hitting hard. I'm in Aus and some bikes like the Cfmoto 450mt and Triumph 400 are selling out, whilst other bikes aren't moving. the scram 411 comes to mind
There were 4 Mr Wheeler lol
A 650 single would have been more interesting.
Mmmm...a Bullet 650 single???
God rides a 650 single...
I wanted a classic 450.. 350 is little small also 650 is too much because being retro its gonna weigh near 250 kgs..also mileage of 20km/litre..naah sorry RE
Couldnt agree with you more about putting 450 sherpa engine in new classic , take a leaf out of BSA's book and hide the cyl head with fins, theyve managed it with the Rotax engine !
If it looked like a classic it’d be great but it looks like a mishmash of parts from the whole range.. Awful !!!
It's 90% great. Looks better than the shotgun and super meteor to me
👍👍
A radiator on the classic is no-no for me, look what is does for the BSA's looks. 😂
Looks fine to me on the BSA
Very frustrating to see you on that lovely 850MT when I can't get hold of one until next Easter!!!!
It will be worth the wait Andy
What about the Voge 900
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you miss your chance with that r.e. rep what i wouid of said is untill you lot stop messing about like you have done with moto GB and when dearlers are kicking R.E. OUT and lads not getting warranty for weeks then forget new bikes look after the customer you got already because if you dont then i and many others will not be buying another R.E.motorbike