Hot wiring a China Quad, 1 wire to cut on CDI harness,
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- 4_1_2016, Hot wiring a China Quad, 1 wire to cut on CDI harness, the CDI needs 4 things to provide a spark, a pulse timing signal from the engine, (blue, or blue and white wire), power from the stator, (Black and red wire), ground, (green wire), and output to the coil, (black and yellow), to bypass the off switch or any other signal to turn off the engine, cut the black and white wire, ( the only wire not in a corner of the CDI plug, Harvey Spooner, Hoarding Mayhem,
Been fixing these things for a few years now. You have one of the best vids showing what everything does, clear images of the wiring and a clean and pointed narration. Not wasting time. Thanks!
I just was gifted one and need some help
Brilliant!
Removed the black and white wire socket from the connector and it fired right up. Less then 10 hours on this six month old 125cc quad and I'm pretty sure it's gonna trace back to a defective kill switch assembly. One interesting note about my particular issue was the quad would fire up and stay running if I held the starter motor switch down. Kinda rough on the starter though. lol
Thanks for breaking down CDI systems in such a simple and clear video. I'm a better man and the world is a better place thanks to your work.
~Rich
I just bought a new 125cc with same wiring, funny it hasn't changed in YEARS. I bought for son, it started up for 5 minutes, I ran it around and then turned it off. Never turned back on again, I don't have spark either. I took out spark plug, put against the frame to ground and cranked it - nothing. What a pain in the booty.....I wish I knew what was wrong but this vid gives me some things to check! Hopefully If I fix it I'll be back to let you know!
this worked great. done what you showed and 4 wheeler started right up. thanks a lot.
Hey EstelaDaryl, I'm glad that I could be helpful, please drop by often to watch and comment... Working on a China Offroad Go Cart and a couple of China Quads.... Thanks for the positive feedback, watching, and commenting!!!
Picked up a little China quad for my son, couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t getting spark, narrowed it down to the black and white wire on the cdi box but wasn’t sure what that wire went to, or if it was supposed to be supplied power or ground, found your video and it was super helpful, thanks!
one of the best explanations I have seen.!
ty so much harvey i was so confused before i watched this video (thought i would never get my bike going again) but after watching ur video everything makes sense now.
Ive replaced every component related to spark on this P.O.S linhai 260 ATV. I cut the kill switch wire to CDI. Ive gone through all wires and connections to make sure i didnt have a short, cut, pinch or missing insulation. My CDI is an 8 pin with 5 wires, 4 wires on the bottom with the top being my ground. This is the only video I've been able to find that shows a way to "test" the CDI. I was told China's quality control with electrical components wasnt the greatest and they may have sent me a bad one. IDK if that's true or not but im about to find out. That is, as long as im not being played via this video with the "April fools" intro, even though it was uploaded on the 2nd.
Hey Roger, a few things, first of all, the Linhai 260 ATV is the worse ATV that I have ever worked on, it has the most complicated wiring and is built from the worse electrical components.... I basically rewired the machine, I took 12vdc from the key switch, ran it to the left handle bar switches, I'm using the left handle bar switches to turn on and off a 12VDC powered CDI system that allows the engine to run.... I put up some videos up on it this spring.... Thanks for Ur thoughts, watching, and commenting!!!
Hey Harvey....Thanks for all the great info..I got my 250cc Roketa buggy going with your help.
Couldn't have done it withe out your help....thanks a million
Wujuuuuu thanks for the video I was breaking my mine here because it didnt stating and then when I see the video I see the 2 wire that you said that need to by pass!! Thankkksssss youuuu. Amador From Puerto Rico!!!!
Honestly still having trouble with Atv but this video is very informative. Thank you!
Hey From Rodney out of CA.....Love these videos. they Help me tremendously
The Seedy Eye (CDI), thanks auto generated subtitles 😊
IT HAS DEFINITLY HELPED THANKS FOR THAT BUT THE TWO PROBLEMS IM HAVING IS ONE THE YELLOW WIRE WITH RED TRACER GOING TO STARTER SILONOID DOES NOT POWER UP TO START IT AND TWO THE BLACK WITH WHITE OR YELLOW FROM THE CDI BOX DOES NOT FIRE THE SECOND COIL ON THE 2005 CHINESE TERMINATOR 250 QUAD I HAVE IM THINKING ITS THE CDI.
Very detailed and awesome information. thank you keep up sharing your knowledge!
I just did this last night! Thanks for the video, popped that wire out, fired right up!
Hey Shane, I love it when my videos help folks out!!! Thanks for getting back to me with Ur success!!! Thanks also for Ur thoughts, watching, and commenting!!!
@@HarveySpooner just a quik question Harvey if you change out one of these say from a 250 to a 350 motor does it compensate for the timeing curve automaticly
Had to wait to almost 11min but just wanted to see a video on how you would go about a no spark situation. Nice to see and good info but if your looking for another video idea then do one on walking up to the atv and check by check (w meter in hand) and do each step you describe in this. By no means hating on you because you provide so much information and im thankful for that but you would also get alot of views on a simple (thru your mindset) on checking a no spark situation. If you already have one then disregard what im saying and i apologize. Again thanks for all your info and insight. Take care
Floated the black/white wire like you said and it fired right up. Kill switch doesn’t work anymore but that should be an easy fix.
thanks took me 15 min to get customer going today bike was in wire fight with fire three years ago rewired it 15 min and started third kick
I have a question. Ive viewed quite a few of your videos hoping for direction with my issue. I ordered wiring harnass like you have. My issue is I have 3 yellow wires 1blue 1 green. So I dont know where my black/red wire would go? Do I need to order a different harnass? If so what kind?
Thanks for the explaining of the wire harness wishes it would have been a little more detailed just because I am currently working on one and just wanting to know every connection BUT your video made all the difference in making sense of a ton of rats nest lol
Thank you very much
Hello... so black and white wire goes to kill switches? I think I have kill switches problem... would I toggle switch wired on the black and white wire work for a manual kill switch?
Should there be 12 volts going to any of the ignition components with the ignition on? I can't find any 12 volts going to any of mine. Battery good and fuse good. Starter spins over good and fast, can't find 12 volts going to anything.
Awesome video. Thanks a million!
I have a chinese 250cc V-Bike, it has a 12 pole stator, my problem is is that I can't find a wiring diagram anywhere so I was wondering if you can help with a detailed wiring diagram that bypasses all the safety stuff
My ATV is a taotao 125 made in 2011 it doesn’t have a black/white in the center it’s on the corner and the only power going to the cdi is a black wire that’s in the center below the blue and inside it has no post so no power to the cdi cranks but doesn’t run do you have any suggestions thanks in advance for any and all help
What's your thoughts on replacing a china engine on an atv with a Honda? What engine would you recommend?
have disconnected black and white and yeah i got a spark finally, thanks
IS THERE ANY WAY TO BYPASS A cdi ON A KAWASAKIE MULE 2002. NUMBER 2 FIRES BUT NUMBER 1 DOEST . CANT AFFORD A NEW ONE AND CANT FIND A USED ONE.? THE CDI on it has a burnt hole in it so i know its bad..
Hi Harvey. I got a China quad linhei 260. At least that is what I think it is. All of the wiring is jacked up. The starter solenoid is junk, I can’t get anything from the CDI, no spark at all. Do you know of a kit that comes with new everything. I have found some online but the cdi does not look like what I have. Can you help?
I dont get power on from cable that goes to the ignition coil.. bad cdi?
One of the only people that actually explains in an understandable way I have had problems getting 2 almost brand new 110 China quads to spark so I watched your video on cutting the black and white a few times so I did it and they both now run great but now I can't find a way to shut them off lol any help would be great
Can I make one run without a cdi ? It has kick start and I normally don't work on these so it's kinda a new thing but I don't need it to run long just want to make sure engine will run before I go puting to much time in it
Great Vid! Usually when I see a long video, I feel they will be full of useless info, but you got my thumbs up. You have so many quads!
Thanks to one of your videos I was able to finally get spark but for some reason still can't get it to fire up it's a 125cc semi automatic quad bike with electric start no kick start no clutch just neutral frowards and reverse I tried to push start it but it didn't want to move under its own power my brother and I also tried it in reverse and it started up for a lil bit but as soon as we let the throttle go it stopped running I can't seem to figure out whats wrong with it I have spark fuel and air it just won't go I do know it needs a new carby but even then I'm not sure it'll go once I replace the carby as there's thick white smoke blowing from the exhaust system the oil in it was really dark and didn't smell too good so I changed the oil I didn't flush it and make sure it was fully cleaned but that shouldn't really matter it should still be able to fire up even with old oil however the oil that came out of it was a bit more liquid like I'm mnot sure how to tell if it may be water or not any help greatly appreciated please and thank you I just don't want to be wasting a ton of money on it for it to never run I'm not rich sadly and it takes me a lil bit just to save for one single part even if it's only $30
have a cam am bombardier 250ds atv keeps smoking the cdi box help me please . 182. OEM cdi box smoked it .
Great explanations, great video!
It would be nice to know how to do it to a 2 plug out the case style wiring.
I have a Chinese scooter and a four wheeler will the cdi from the four wheeler work on the scooter
Really helpfull thanks hopfully i can get this quad i have going soon two thumbs up
Very helpful video many thanks
Iv a kazuma 50cc wires are a mess I managed to wire it up turns out starter was bad now iv installed a new one and it Bearley turns over? It's semi auto so I put it in second gear and try jump start it iv no spark but all my wires are connected and someone previously removed the black and white off the cdi, it was ment to be 2months old but lying up for a while before I got it, any help to try sort it out
I don't wanna buy new harness and put more money into it
I have Chinese bandit 100cc I put new stator and cool new cdi box reward it still have no spark I don't know what else to do
thanks harvey, was good, and interesting. informative, and will get them going. if the economy totally collapses, and people can still get a small amount of gas, they will come, and you will be rich, rich, rich I tell you, just be ready to make them pay food for their small vehicle. unless you live downwind of a nuclear plant, that has run out of diesel.
Hey Paublus, I'm more then 30miles upwind of a nuclear power plant... I don't picture a total collapse of the economy, I picture folks working harder, for less $, in worse and worse conditions, jobs will be harder to get, so, folks will put up with whatever it takes to keep a job.... Thanks for the encouragement, your thoughts, watching, and commenting!!!
I have a 2005 yamoto 200cc that is missing one wire in the harness the key switch has 3 wires (red, black, black red stripe) coming off it to the plug but the wiring harness only has 2 from the plug(red , black) into the harness, what should the black with red stripe wire got to?
Harvey I have a 2001 Kasea Skyhawk 50cc that stalls everytime I plug the black and white wire into the CDI. I want to be able to use the electric start, currently unable to and have to use kick start only. To shut it off I disconnect the rear safety, the front one does nothing so I am thinking it is a problem in the wiring in the switch assembly that has the push start. I changed the wiring harness and CDI thinking it was one of those and the problem still exists. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!
Should I try hooking up a battery to the blue CDI input ? And if so what voltage would it be 12?
What if I have a four wire system? Blue n white, black yellow, green and black. Would I be right to guess on floating black wire?
Top man great video, thanks 😁👍
Hello Harvey, I am having a problem with a Yamaha Bear Tracker 250 which has a CDI with a single 8 pin connector. I need to know where the pulse wires and the charge wires connect. It appears that the top left is unused, the bottom left goes to the Ignition coil and there are a total of 7 wires that went to the harness connector which is missing. I have a new connector but need to know what wires go to which pin on the CDI. I have searched the web and can not find a pin out of this CDI so anything you can offer will be appreciated.
thanks for post helped me my plug had no spark and turn out the harness was bad and splitting the white black wire in middle worked and it craked right up. that was on the CDI unit I needed to cut wire and fix the loose wires. I left wire disconnected anyways because I can choke it out or reconnect wire. now it shuts down when I let off gas when running any ideas email me please whould be best I have trouble getting to internet outside my phone which is limited
Hey Robert, I'm glad that my video helped, I put up a Part 1 video on the next generation of replacement wire harness and CDI yesterday, part 2 will be the quad running and part thru will it be fully installed.... Thanks for getting back to me, the info, Ur thoughts, watching, and commenting!!!
I have a 2005 Alpha Sports Cobra 180 rs. What if I don't have a black and red startor wire coming out the cdi harness?
I just put a new wire harness on an eton 150 cc .It came with all new stator ,pulse gen ,volt reg cdi and coil .I was very careful installing it but I still have no spark .Any suggestions
hello I have a trakker dune buggy with a cf188 500cc motor I can't find a diagram for the wires to go to the cdi box it has 2 different plugs on the cdi but the plugs have been broken so the wires are just hanging there can you help me with this issue?
man you answer so many questions. Thanks ..
What about a Polaris 2003 scrambler 90. Got them marked just not sure I follow since not same design.
I have a diamo tornado 200 atv and I can't seem to get spark and it has the original wiring harness and it cranks over just fine but it has a 6 point plug that's not hooked up to anything and I'm not sure what it was plugged into
Mine start with solenoid only not from push start button where could be problem I have all parts if you tell me where is problem I will change that part
i have a 1988 kawasaki 300 bayou...when i push start it, it turns on but sounds like it slipping does not turn engine on...took side box off to see if sprocket came lose but everything looks good...what you think it is? please help
Well I have 3 wires coming out of my stator on my 97 CR 125. A brown and a white in one connector and a blue on a single pin connector . Which one do I hook the blue CDI wire up to and which one is a ground coming off the stater? I have the cool flashing red/ yellow on my power probe but I have no spark with a brand new coil. Why would the cool not fire if it has pulse? And how many of the stater wires do I need to hook up?
I just got a 90 Baja atv. The kid that I bought it from ripped apart the ignition where now it's just left with the wires that used to go to the key I hooked up the black and the red wire up and it cranks over I have spark I have new fuel in it because it did sit for a long time and also The carburetor I just cleaned but it's cranking and it has spark and it has fuel and it has compression but it won't fire. Another wire I have to look up or any suggestions
If I was going to hook up a led head light on a 125cc pitbike would I use the black and red wire as my positive and ground out to the frame or should I do a 12v regulator ???
dam finally someone very informable.no bullshit
On my china quad i replaced the CDI and i have a really good spark (i can hold it from the engine 3/4") and my carberator is producing fumes i can light a match at the exhaust and it'll make a pop but my engine won't run. The engine has about 110 pounds of compression, if you can help diagnose the problem please comment.
90cc falcon quad. New battery..new starter...new coil..turns over but won't spark!?. Any ideas. Thanks in advance
hey there i have a 250cc quad and it has lots of wires coming out of the motor but have no idea what they are for as the loom i brought dont match up and one doesnt have a plug on the end cam you help please
I'm having a hell of a time kandi 180. I replaced the head and got everything together and now no spark.
Thanks for the videos Harvey. I've always struggled with wiring but I'm digging in and trying to learn more lately. Recently purchased a running/riding 250cc TaoTao. Manual hand clutch, 4speed w/reverse. I've torn it down to safety check all the bolts, wiring etc and learning as I go. Even though the current wiring is apparently functioning it has been hacked on a lot and I was considering just doing a complete wiring harness and electrics change with one of those inexpensive e-bay kits to tidy things up. One question-my voltage regulator has 5 wires coming out of it and the ones for sale seem to have 4. Mine has a black wire in addition to the typical red, green, yellow and pink. Can I use the 4 wire voltage regulator without causing problems. Also my current wiring seems to have an abundance of ground wires coming from practically every appendage of the quad twisted together in clumps and soldered. Probably 8-10 individual green ground wires (including 2 from the CDI). Is this normal or did the hacker go overboard? Is there such a thing as having too many ground wires? Thanks!
Harvey what state are you from.
Hey George!!! I live in New York.... Not far from the Newburgh/Beacon Bridge.... Thanks for asking and watching!!
How do l connect a 6 pin CDI to a 5 pin harness
hi harvey, i have a 2019 lexmoto hunter 50cc no spark have put new cdi new coil new ht lead and plug cap in still no spark...can you tell me what wire to cut on the cdi on this bike, cheers buddy.
Please help with a ?. I just bought (as far as I know) a 2005 49cc mini Harley. I didn't notice at the time of purchase that a lot of the wiring that I would expect to be there was missing. I do however have spark without a battery in it. Will it run with new gas mix without a battery?
Hey Brian, If U have spark, it should run, I would start with a fresh spark plug also, the OEM China plugs are weak at best, especially if the bike has sat around and may have been flooded a few times.... Thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!
Thanks so much!
can i change the power input to my CDI source coil and get it from my battery
Need help 110tao quad stopped running while driving, tried to start back up, starts to crank but won't fire any help
Hi i have a kinroad roadster 250cc its a side by side go kart. It wont run it will fire up with starting fluid but dies within 2 seconds any ideas? ive tried a few things but havent solved the issue yet
Hey Josh!!! If anything starts on fluid and stalls out, I normally look at the carb first, if it has a drain on it, try draining out the gas, maybe there is water on the bottom of the bowl, if that is not the fix, I would rebuild or replace the carb.... I hope this helps.... Thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!
Hey bud ive asked you a bunch of questions about these two cgina quads I have but one inpiticular one a taotao 110b was just running great. Well I parked it thr next day it woyldnt start. I replaced the cdi ignition module. Starter cylanoid key switch batt. And now it is turning over but only getting a spark every now and then. I jumped it from the starter gets great fire. So I put the plug back in tried to start it to ride it and it started right up no ether or carb cleaner but spit popped and cut right back off. Why would my jump box on yhe starter cause it to fire and start but from the batt. It is a spark every 20 sec. Is that why it dies as soon as I take the jump box off.. Ive got hours in this thing and dnt want to hack up the harness because it is fine. Should I. Cut the blk and white wire on the cdi? Would it get better spark? Plz help
Hi Harvey I’m wiring a whole gy6 I bought a narness was supposed to be plug and play but still can’t get it to work. The gy6 is in a powersurf board and got the harness for a atv so I know I had to ground the new wires for the brake before I tried and still get nothing. Please help anyone
Why does my quad have to wires that goes into the motor
So are you saying I can bypass all the other boxes and safety wires and only use the bare minimum like on your little harness
Just saved me! Thanks
Hi Harvey I am currently trying to sort our the ignition on an old 70cc China quad. The electrical system is also fitted with a VUN BA which I understand is a remote cut-off system. I have recently purchased the wiring loom harness that you recommenced can I just disconnect the VUN BA unit, will the ATV run without it. Many thanks for your help.....Col
I bet that will help them out. I wrote that down for my future project
+Rusty “rustyglovebox” Glovebox, When U R ready for an ignition system for Ur China ATV engine project build, I got Ur ignition system covered... I always appreciate Ur thoughts, positive feed back, watching, and commenitng!!!
+Rusty “rustyglovebox” Glovebox, When U R ready for an ignition system for Ur China ATV engine project build, I got Ur ignition system covered... I always appreciate Ur thoughts, positive feed back, watching, and commenitng!!!
+Rusty “rustyglovebox” Glovebox , In reply to Ur comment on my ATC250SX ride video - It is fun out playing in the snow on an ATC, of the many gifts God has given us, snow donuts rank up there with my favorites... I guess no snow where U R in TX, right???? Thanks for the encouragement, watching, and commenting!!!
What replacement battery did you get or have originally?
I'm trying to figure out how to wire a cdi into a 2007 can am ds250. It's a DC cdi. The dealer cost for that cdi is over $200. I've seen other cdi's that look exactly like it for $20. It's an old beat up quad but it's still good. I'm wondering if anyone can help me with a wiring diagram for the ds250, possibly which brand of cdi to use and really any help will do. Honda TRX90 Sportrax 93-05 cdi looks identical.
thanks for the tour of the yard🖒
Hey Tom, I'm running out of space in my yard, there have been many additions since this video was shot.... Thanks for your thoughts, watching, and commenting!!!!!
This is for a 5 wire setup . Do you have a video that has the DC style 4-wire setup ? Need to bypass the kill switches/neutral safety switch in order to find a NO spark condition.
I was checking spark and it shocked me through the metal housing that goes around the plug...it shouldn't do that right? that sounds like a grounding issue? please help
Hey Luke, I always start by checking ground every where when I'm troubleshooting an ignition problem on a bike or quad... If the top of the spark plug has a metal cap over the insulator from the spark ignition coil, it is not surprising that one gets a shock when they touch it.... Never hurts to check ground though, thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!!
Hi. I've been trying all day to get my quad working. I have re wired all the wires directly to the different areas. However there is a green and white strip wire and I don't know what it's for. It goes out the Ecu and into the engine. Any ideas. I can't get a spark
Hey Tony, When one looks at the ecu, (CDI box), there should be the following wires going into it, stator or +12VDC, ground, ignition coil primary, pulse generator, and engine off... One should be able to follow the wires and eliminate most to figure out what is left... My guess is that is ground given the green and while, should be easy enough to test with an ohm meter, I hope this helped... Thanks for your thoughts, watching, and commenting!!!
I bought new wire harness that 5 wires going to magneto but magneto on quad only has 4 what can I do to make it work
Hey Patric, It depends on the missing wire on the harness, is there an extra yellow or green coming from the engine???? Thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!
How does the wire goes from the cbi
I find your videos very helpful but I have a project that I just can't seem to figure out, I have a 90cc Chinese quad that keeps shorting out stators,grand daughters where riding it shut it off won't start since replaced stator had no resistance on black and red tried starting no spark check resistance again none. Got another stator checked resistance prior had 39 ohms installed tried starting no spark checked resistance again and none myself and my two friends are baffled as to why hoping you may have an answer
Sir I have one those but I can't get it to stared
What about a 250cc that has 2 CDI's? One is a 7pin 3 wire and the other is a 4 pin.
I have a china bike it apears to be a 125 i got it harness was cut to all beat so i removed it i have watch couple videos i am kinda stuck right now dont want to spend money on carb if i cant get it to at least fire up for couple seconds i have what i believe to be the cdi and what i believe to be a ignition controll mod where do the wires go what connect to the wires coming out of the case by the gear shifter there are two plugs that come out of there with about 5 to 6 wores each
Hey harvey trying to stop my battery from sparking everytime i touch the positive wire to the battery. everytime it touches it starts to crank but i want it through the electric start button i dont want to have to hot wire it everytime any info on this would be greatly appreciated thanks
Hey Camron, The quad is 100% complete and the wire harness is intact????? Sounds to me that Ur starting solenoid is stuck or is being picked because there is an issue with the starter button circuit.... I hope this helps, thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!
Thank you harvey i messed with that and it got it up and working thanks again for the help you are the atv genius!
I have a quick question where do you add the inline fuse?
i have a dr 250 f 1985 with no cdi box but i do have cdi box off a 49 cc scooter. Will that work? and the wire...?
Hey Ammala, Interesting.... My 49cc scooters are 2 cycle and they don't bother with a triggered CDI box... The DR250 is a 4 cycle... It may run, but, giving the timing advance differences between the 2, it would probably kick back when trying to start it, I would probably go with the pit bike cdi system.... Thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!
i just bought a new engin for my 150cc jonway scooter an im running a AC charging system an my engin is Dc so wat do i need to do to fix this problem i cant send the engin back is there away to change the some of the parts on the engin or use my old cdi an reg will that help i had no idea it was DC i just found out im running this AC system The DC system it keep blowing the bulbs in my head lights a guage i put the cdi that came from the engin an everything blow but the blinkers an the brake lights
Kids lost the key to the mini quad. I have black, red, blue, green any help would be appreciated
Hey Clifford, I put up a video yesterday that should help U on this exact topic, let me know how U make out.... Thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!
i have one with alarm its removed how trying to get spark back