I think the difference which in this system has positive impact on sound and may come from pickup not from LP. quality. Anyway it is for me advantage of turntable that it gives opportunity to make slight alignment by choosing best for owned system pickup. .In fact I would expect opposite - that digital would be better articulated but onlu in sopranos. I have four pickups different shapes to my Bang Olufsen turntable each with different specific it makes just about such differences - the best is full contact and sounds most smooth with best perspective .
CD as so often just has no fundamental body, the turntable brings it to another level, but isn‘t my choice either, by what the speakers show. Both are equally out of my choices, clearly. It‘s likely the speakers that doesn‘t really transport the differences enough. I don‘t like the amp either, but I know that this isn‘t the amp‘s fault, that‘s proven to give enough magic to any input and sends it over to the speakers.
Hört sich so an, als ob die (nicht 'datenreduzierte') Schallplatte mehr und realistischeten Bass erzeugt. Interessant wäre auch über einen High-End-DVD Spieler (z.B. Marantz DV12 S1) einen gekauften Titel auf eine CD-R in z.B. '.wav 24 Bit/96KHz' dagegen zu hören
Good speakers and amplification is everything. Even UA-cam can sound spectacular with the right DAC. Vinyl sounds better some of the time because of the equalization, but that's before wear and tear creates surface noise. The CD will sound the same every time and won't easily wear out unless you have childish vandals handling them. If all you do is listen to 2 channel audio a sonic equalizer is a good investment.
Like you, I'm lucky enough to have both means of reproduction. I don't bother to compare. I just enjoy the music. 😎 I believe I also have the same speakers. Tannoy XT8 floorstanders.
Nice presentation and set-up 🍺 👍 🔈 🔈🔈....! Best to have both.... sometimes you can...sometimes you can't find something in the print you want... and then you have to resort to....streaming it...... etc....😢
Is the Vinyl the new 45 RPM from Analogue Productions Mastered from the original analog tapes by Bernie Grundman? Is your CD SACD? The Analogue Productions 45 RPM Aaron Neville is sublime in vocals, instruments and soundstage. I voice like Aaron's deserves the warmth of tubes and vinyl.
@@scottadams7523 We are talking about LPs 45/m - streaming is not comparable. . I think we know not enough about real interactions and impact l on our senses and we pull conclusions very fast by simplified intuition based on technical observations of instruments. not senses That is why is a lot of contrary opinions without clearly justified result . If somebody could technicaly define what is the "little effect" and judge it in justified scale then we can at least start dispute if anything has it or no. You must be not technical engineer if you are using such not precise termin . In my opinion all THD which are created in significant for hearning range above 5kHz and are created in LP reproduction are for sure are hardest to controll They are groupped and condensed by multiplying by 3 in range 15kHz - 60 kHz together with harmonics of eventual noise and cracks . As suggested by many those THD will mix and affect back the lower well perceived range. If it is cut at max 15 kHz all that THD would not be recorded to LP and have enough volume which could add/deduct to sounds in hearing band
The CD system has better transient response on the kick drums and is therefore more engaging to my taste. ps> What brand of damping weight do you have on your Denafrips Pontus dac?
Good comparison, thanks. CD sounds more balanced on my system, vinyl a little bit coloured in the mids. Some details more please: which Cartridge, which cable between Thorens and PH 10 (i have PH 10 too), which cable between Transport and denafrips (which model?), which Speakers, which Power Cables on each Component and which Power distributor?
@ Thanks. Wow, that seems to be a wonderful combination. I Use AudioquestCables too (Carbon CAT 7/Telegärtner Metal Plugs, XLR digital Cinnamon), Tellurium (Power Cable, 900 Euros, Tellurium Q silver), both very good, but yours are better. Digicable from Reclocker Mutec MC3+: Neotech OCC with ETI Cryo BNC-Plugs.
Grundsätzlich grausam dieses Grundrauschen bei beiden Beispielen. Dann die Aufstellung der Boxen viel zu nah beieinander. Da wird so viel Potenzial verschenkt. Über UA-cam etwas zu beurteilen ist nicht wirklich aussagekräftig 😢
Another senseless "Apple with Pear" comparison!! Of course there is a difference, always!!!! It starts with different mixing and mastering although the same source material would be used! Every step after that is different, different materials, different equipment and so on!! Who can judge that the quality of a digital equipment is the same as the analog counterpart??? Plse stop those BS comparisons! Sheer clickbait!!
I do not think in theory you are right in practice you should not make such notices - too many instant charges without specification do not provide any real input . I have very fine aligned system which unveils "everything" .I also made such comparisons just by curiosity. Anyway outcome from my experiments is that both are extremly simmilar - much more than I could observe here. May be because I use different material - original records issued 50 years ago and their CD versions reedited later. This way it is not parallel production of two mediums which may be eventualy mastered separately but one is reproduced copy of another.
They both sound very good. I think the vinyl sounded fuller. But over UA-cam I'd take that with a vault of salt.
Both sound fantastic i wish i had a system as nice as that.
I own the XRCD of this album of Neville, i love it, musically and auditive.
@@dirkbusche54 I love this album too.
Vinyl sounds less compressed and fuller but the cd was a bit more top end rich.
Sounds more vibrant on vinyl, surprisingly. More treble and airy. I'd like to know if they were volume level matched.
@@Larwiz Thank you for your comment,.. I tried to adjust the volume level to be as close as I can.., but I think, the vinyl one still jsut a little bit higher.
@tongton853 Okay. Thanks for responding.
I think the difference which in this system has positive impact on sound and may come from pickup not from LP. quality. Anyway it is for me advantage of turntable that it gives opportunity to make slight alignment by choosing best for owned system pickup. .In fact I would expect opposite - that digital would be better articulated but onlu in sopranos. I have four pickups different shapes to my Bang Olufsen turntable each with different specific it makes just about such differences - the best is full contact and sounds most smooth with best perspective .
@@tongton853 That's right, you have to turn the volume up a little bit, but the vinyl has a nicer sound.
a bit flatter with Vinyl
CD as so often just has no fundamental body, the turntable brings it to another level, but isn‘t my choice either, by what the speakers show. Both are equally out of my choices, clearly. It‘s likely the speakers that doesn‘t really transport the differences enough. I don‘t like the amp either, but I know that this isn‘t the amp‘s fault, that‘s proven to give enough magic to any input and sends it over to the speakers.
Hört sich so an, als ob die (nicht 'datenreduzierte') Schallplatte mehr und realistischeten Bass erzeugt. Interessant wäre auch über einen High-End-DVD Spieler (z.B. Marantz DV12 S1) einen gekauften Titel auf eine CD-R in z.B. '.wav 24 Bit/96KHz' dagegen zu hören
And that's a good question. I use a CD player and music comes out of that too! But buy good CDs, e.g. Stockfisch-Records & Pauler Acoustics.
Good speakers and amplification is everything. Even UA-cam can sound spectacular with the right DAC. Vinyl sounds better some of the time because of the equalization, but that's before wear and tear creates surface noise. The CD will sound the same every time and won't easily wear out unless you have childish vandals handling them. If all you do is listen to 2 channel audio a sonic equalizer is a good investment.
Like you, I'm lucky enough to have both means of reproduction. I don't bother to compare. I just enjoy the music. 😎
I believe I also have the same speakers. Tannoy XT8 floorstanders.
Nice presentation and set-up 🍺 👍 🔈 🔈🔈....! Best to have both.... sometimes you can...sometimes you can't find something in the print you want... and then you have to resort to....streaming it...... etc....😢
Is the Vinyl the new 45 RPM from Analogue Productions Mastered from the original analog tapes by Bernie Grundman? Is your CD SACD? The Analogue Productions 45 RPM Aaron Neville is sublime in vocals, instruments and soundstage. I voice like Aaron's deserves the warmth of tubes and vinyl.
@@scottadams7523the vinyl is the first release yr.1991 at 33rpm.. Cd is normal cd first release. Thank you for your comment.
I do not share opinion that anyone realy need to increase of frequency band with 45/m.
@@Mikexception Would you then suggest even digital streaming low bit rates vs. higher bit rates also has little effect?
@@scottadams7523 We are talking about LPs 45/m - streaming is not comparable. . I think we know not enough about real interactions and impact l on our senses and we pull conclusions very fast by simplified intuition based on technical observations of instruments. not senses
That is why is a lot of contrary opinions without clearly justified result .
If somebody could technicaly define what is the "little effect" and judge it in justified scale then we can at least start dispute if anything has it or no. You must be not technical engineer if you are using such not precise termin .
In my opinion all THD which are created in significant for hearning range above 5kHz and are created in LP reproduction are for sure are hardest to controll They are groupped and condensed by multiplying by 3 in range 15kHz - 60 kHz together with harmonics of eventual noise and cracks . As suggested by many those THD will mix and affect back the lower well perceived range.
If it is cut at max 15 kHz all that THD would not be recorded to LP and have enough volume which could add/deduct to sounds in hearing band
Both a bit shrill that must be in this recording. The vinyl is a little more mellow.
Jobb, finomabb felbontás a vinyl.nél, puhább, természetesebb. Cd hang: Made in germany.
They both sound different in person
Vinyl has to be listened to at a slightly higher volume. But vinyl has a nicer sound. Both are good, but vinyl is the winner.
The CD system has better transient response on the kick drums and is therefore more engaging to my taste.
ps> What brand of damping weight do you have on your Denafrips Pontus dac?
@@connorduke4619.. hifistay centum9 is on pontus.. Thank you for your comment.
I prefer vynil
Why compare just enjoy what you got
vinyl top
Good comparison, thanks. CD sounds more balanced on my system, vinyl a little bit coloured in the mids. Some details more please: which Cartridge, which cable between Thorens and PH 10 (i have PH 10 too), which cable between Transport and denafrips (which model?), which Speakers, which Power Cables on each Component and which Power distributor?
@@dirkbusche54 Thank you for your comment.
Speakers cable : tellurium q ultra silver.
Power cable : audioquest strom series.
Rca interconnection cale : tellurium q ultra silver.
Digital cable from cd transport to dac: audioquest Diamond hdmi
Power isolation transfomer: hifi99 (local brand -Thailand)
@ Thanks. Wow, that seems to be a wonderful combination. I Use AudioquestCables too (Carbon CAT 7/Telegärtner Metal Plugs, XLR digital Cinnamon), Tellurium (Power Cable, 900 Euros, Tellurium Q silver), both very good, but yours are better. Digicable from Reclocker Mutec MC3+: Neotech OCC with ETI Cryo BNC-Plugs.
The CD sounded beautiful but, the vinyl sounds more alive
Cd any day. Don’t know why people still hang on to vinyl
the vinyl has more body
VINYL WINS...ALWAYS
Vinyl record have the better sound than CD.
Grundsätzlich grausam dieses Grundrauschen bei beiden Beispielen. Dann die Aufstellung der Boxen viel zu nah beieinander. Da wird so viel Potenzial verschenkt. Über UA-cam etwas zu beurteilen ist nicht wirklich aussagekräftig 😢
Another senseless "Apple with Pear" comparison!! Of course there is a difference, always!!!! It starts with different mixing and mastering although the same source material would be used! Every step after that is different, different materials, different equipment and so on!! Who can judge that the quality of a digital equipment is the same as the analog counterpart??? Plse stop those BS comparisons! Sheer clickbait!!
You may stop watching.
Merry Christmas!
I do not think in theory you are right in practice you should not make such notices - too many instant charges without specification do not provide any real input .
I have very fine aligned system which unveils "everything" .I also made such comparisons just by curiosity. Anyway outcome from my experiments is that both are extremly simmilar - much more than I could observe here. May be because I use different material - original records issued 50 years ago and their CD versions reedited later. This way it is not parallel production of two mediums which may be eventualy mastered separately but one is reproduced copy of another.
Looks fake. The pickup cartridge was half way through the track when the music started. Haha.
The video and audio are recorded separately to ensure better audio quality.
Винил - потеря динамики, рыхлость звука. Одно слово, убожество.
с этого " убожества" когда-то вся музыка переписывалась, и все были в восторге...
CD sounds like plastic envelope.
😁