How Much Faster Than a Trolling Motor? Newport NT300 electric outboard motor full review

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  • Опубліковано 21 гру 2024

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  • @WayneTheBoatGuy
    @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому +1

    See how this 3 hp equivalent outboard compares to the ePropulsion Spirit 1.0 Plus - ua-cam.com/video/fnVhaAesIKs/v-deo.html

  • @allstate125
    @allstate125 14 днів тому +1

    My boat would do 4 mph with my 55lb trolling motor wide open for 4.5 miles and it’s time to go home. The Newport will go 13 miles at 4 mph!!! Plus you have 6.5 mph if you need to get off the lake if the wind picks up. 7:23

  • @charles.neuman18
    @charles.neuman18 10 днів тому +1

    Also, it's not just speed that matters. The question is can it fight against a current or choppy water or wind? I use my Torqeedo to get my sailboat out to open water and back for a day sail. I'd be concerned about using a trolling motor, if there's some strong winds or choppy water. My Torqeedo handles it fine.

  • @KSMsails
    @KSMsails 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video, I grew up on Grays Creek. I thought the area looked familiar and then saw the chart showing your range and was delighted to see my old home waters.

  • @MarvinWestmaas
    @MarvinWestmaas 6 місяців тому +1

    Since I am not sure someone explained it already: the reason the *engine* gives a voltage reading and not a percentage might be because it's an *engine* not a battery. I'm pretty sure you can run it with any 36v source, including a lead acid if you wanted to... Lead acid batteries have a distinct discharge curve, same goes for LiFePo4 and so on. If you have a motor with a charge indicator based on voltage, it will give wrong readings if calibrated for battery type A and running battery type B.
    The voltage readout in combination with the discharge curve would give you approximate charge state, unless you're onder load which will cause the voltage to sag. In addition to voltage sag under load ( and most of the time, you want to check charge while under load, and the more load the more voltage sag influences the reading ) you also have for instance for LiFePo4 a very flat discharge curve. This means a certain voltage can actually indicate a range of charge, and not a set charge. A 36v LiFePo4 the difference between 50% charge and 60% charge is 0.16v and that size step is repeated more then once.... there goes my LiFePo on battery screen readout value... since it only shows a single decimal and rounding with these small steps can be the difference between 50% and 60% charge.
    If you want a reliable charge state, you need to eliminate voltage sag from your measurement so ideally without load.
    With my LiFePo4 batteries, if I really am worried about charge and I want a good reading, I stop my trolling motor.
    Your motor showing how many Watt your're using is actually your best aid, it just takes some math. A 40Ah 36v battery has 40.8V charge at full capacity, this gives it 40.8 * 40 = 1632Wh
    Some systems allow you to 'pair' your motor controller, screen and battery together in a way where the system knows what kind of battery it's using, and it can track charge state to better estimate charge levels even under load. With that I mean, it will detect when a battery is connected at 40.8v or above, and set's capacity to 0. Then it will use the controller indicated amp draw to calculate how much Wh it drained from the battery since that last full charge state, which it can combine with a voltage reading with load correction if needed to give a very reliable reading.
    Some displays / controllers don't even need explicit pairing with a battery but will 'learn' it on the fly as long as it can observe the full voltage range it can determine the battery type from that, and it could learn capacity by taking a full charge. minus used Wh, combined with a voltage reading indicator of charge state. And then build it's own date more and more, even adapt to batteries losing capacity over time.

  • @charles.neuman18
    @charles.neuman18 10 днів тому +1

    The Newport looks like a copy of the Torqeedo. The Torqeedo is much quieter. You can't hear anything. It's quieter than the previous Travel model. The Torqeedo display can be set for percentage of battery, which I prefer, too. The range can be set for time or distance (based on your current speed). See if the Newport can do that. Maybe it's in some setting somewhere. I really like the option of the Newport to use an external "normal" battery. As I've reported before, I love how the Torqeedo functions, but I'm getting tired of having to buy new expensive proprietary batteries every few years. I'd like to have more battery options.

  • @robertpapps3618
    @robertpapps3618 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for your review. FYI: my 24lb Watersnake on my 14 Hornbeck at full power cruises at 4.4 mph with a range of 9 miles with a 50AH lithium battery.

  • @sevenravens
    @sevenravens 4 місяці тому +2

    Looking forward to the NT600

  • @darrylmcleman6456
    @darrylmcleman6456 Рік тому +1

    FINE BUSINESS!!! There are some lakes around my neck of the woods that are restricted to electric motors only ! CHEERS from Westcoast Canada!

  • @classicarcadeamusementpark4242

    It's not just a matter of how much faster it is, but how much more power it has to cut through wind & currents. A little more powerful could make a big difference in those areas.
    Numerous times, my Minnkota trolling motor struggled to get me back to the boat launch in strong winds, and currents in the bay & rivers. It wasn't so much the speed why I upgraded to a Torqeedo 1003s, but more that I didn't want to get stuck and the speed is a nice bonus. On a small lake the trolling motor was generally fine, but at the other places I mentioned it wasn't. I didn't want my boating adventures to be limited with some great places to visit around here and in my travels.
    The wake (and presumably speed) of your Newport motor looks a lot smaller than that of my Torqeedo Travel 1003s. This is likely due to the kind of boat your using I'll assume. I didn't think the Torqeedo was faster or more powerful from what I've read. The current model, 1103 is 10% faster/more powerful than the 1003, which is no big deal to me. My inflatable reaches hull speed at 3/4 throttle anyway and is fast enough for me. I've tested the motor to the max in the past 9 years or so going against strong winds, currents, riptides and against the strong ocean surf. There is no way a trolling motor would have been able to this.
    One of the things I love about the Torqeedo is the battery. I have a small inflatable that fits in my sedan's trunk and very little room in my car or on my boat to store a battery. The Torqeedo battery weighs just 13 lbs, is extremely easy to carry with a nice handle vs the car battery (deep cycle) and it fits on top of the motor saving space.
    You can see for yourself how much faster the Torqeedo motor goes with an inflatable a little larger than mine but similar looking by watching the UA-cam video titled "Moteur Torqeedo 1003 S sur annexe". Advance to 00:50 Notice the size of the wake, and how fast it passes the channel markers. Nothing like a trolling motor.

    • @logan2japan466
      @logan2japan466 Рік тому

      Why not just get a gas engine😅 accessibility to different places?

    • @classicarcadeamusementpark4242
      @classicarcadeamusementpark4242 Рік тому

      @@logan2japan466 Here's why:
      I transport my inflatable inside my sedan. I'm uncomfortable storing a gas motor inside my car. I think the fumes would really bother me and likely be strong for a while even when not storing the motor in the car. I also like not smelling it on the water, although it probably wouldn't bother me terribly.
      I don't have a shed or safe place at my home to store a gas motor or tank of gas.
      I like the convenience of not having to go to a gas station and mix the chemicals.
      I like that an electric motor when idol and quiet is always on. It also helps my sail rig "power sailing" and getting out of the way of motor boats or rouge waves.
      I visit some locations that require electric motors only and one is right in town, but most places allow gas motors I visit.
      I also feel an electric motor is generally easier to start than a small gas motor as I've watched people struggle with them for years. I'm not a fan of pulling the lawn motor string, often several times. Probably not good for my wrist either
      You need need annual maintenance on an electric motor (and factor in that cost and your time), but they should be serviced every 5 years or so.
      There are some advantages of a gas motor however. Range could be much better. Most of my trips on the water are well under my battery's range, but occasionally there is a location I'd like to visit where I'd need greater range. A gas motor is much less expensive. In terms of owning them for many, many years a gas motor is probably a better long term investment. Also far more places that can work on them.

    • @logan2japan466
      @logan2japan466 Рік тому +1

      @classicarcadeamusementpark4242 that is a very good reason, I had not thought about that. I have had my motor leak in my truck bed before because i didn't close something.👍

    • @classicarcadeamusementpark4242
      @classicarcadeamusementpark4242 Рік тому +1

      @@logan2japan466 Exactly. I have a sedan with all micro fiber rugs built-in like all the sedans I've had. Imagine gas or oil spilling on that? I'm pretty sensitive to the fumes. Even transporting a gas container can bother me, and the fumes are usually there for a long time after too. If I had a boat on a trailer it probably wouldn't bother me.
      There is a mount you can buy for a small car to transport the motor on the back of a car like a bicycle stand. But I like to take my boat/motor on trips and I like having it completely concealed inside the car. Seems like less worries. That kind of stand also requires having a trailer hitch welded to your car. If I were mostly going short distances to local places, it would be something to consider. I visit tourist places too, and when I'm done boating, I don't have a boat on a trailer or worries of people seeing it and maybe vandalizing it. People are crazy today. Parking in a tourist area is difficult enough without dragging a boat behind you.

    • @rec1015
      @rec1015 Рік тому

      Hello there, I have been a subscriber for many years, great info video like always.
      Question: How we can acquire on of the shipping boxes for the NT300, we contacted N.V. but they weren't able to help us.

  • @barrywarren4221
    @barrywarren4221 Рік тому +2

    Electric is the future way to go, and my experience with Newport Vessel is the way I'll go. On a lake they are fine, but get out on the river or bay, I want a little more HP. Great review .

    • @flatsmasterfishing
      @flatsmasterfishing Рік тому

      As someone who uses trolling motors exclusively for my propulsion, Newport vessels is trash. They had to send me parts every month to keep it working and every time I had to re wire it myself. Check out haswing, way better technology and have been bomb proof for me so far. I also maintain my gear meticulously.

    • @barrywarren4221
      @barrywarren4221 Рік тому

      The boat lugs all the weight, and besides 3 depth cycles 12 v @ 100Ah in a series circuit about 220lbs of batteries . Just tell one of your fishing buddy's they cant go.@Cerus98

    • @barrywarren4221
      @barrywarren4221 Рік тому +1

      Guess I've been lucky with my NV 55 it has never let me down.
      @@flatsmasterfishing

    • @barrywarren4221
      @barrywarren4221 Рік тому

      To power a larger HP. motor, your floor would have all the batteries concealed just like these electric automobiles. but for my needs something around 6 hp is plenty for me.@Cerus98

    • @sharonbraselton4302
      @sharonbraselton4302 Рік тому

      ​@Cerus98whaker 15 elrric oytbard

  • @JosephMBoyer
    @JosephMBoyer Рік тому +2

    I spray my look alike Anderson ports with corrosion x aerosol. this video is spot on. Woo!

  • @whydoineedahandle406
    @whydoineedahandle406 11 місяців тому +1

    Great review and thank you for the level of detail. You're a real pro!!

  • @Roy_1
    @Roy_1 2 місяці тому +1

    Why are they all 3hp? Is it component availability, value ceiling, or a legal reason?
    I like the idea of these, but it'd make way more sense if there was a 9.9hp equivalent or 25hp equivalent.

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  2 місяці тому +1

      There are higher horsepower models. I have a video about a 9.9 equivalent
      ua-cam.com/video/M2lMUeXjvEc/v-deo.htmlsi=ZUAT0dZ6yydzNNCk

  • @DontjeB
    @DontjeB Рік тому +2

    Good comparison video! For my money, I can get a 55lb thrust trolling motor and 100ah lithium battery combo for $500 or less. By the time the Newport, battery, and charger are purchased, you are pushing $2500. I believe that price discrepancy is just too hard of a pill to swallow for most small aluminum boat enthusiasts.

    • @classicarcadeamusementpark4242
      @classicarcadeamusementpark4242 Рік тому +1

      Assuming the Newport motor is comparable to my old Torqeedo 1003 in speed & power, there is no comparison to a trolling motor. I had one prior to my Torqeedo and at some locations I almost didn't make it back. Against a strong wind & currents there is a gigantic difference. On a smaller lake a trolling motor would generally be acceptable, but out in some bays and rivers you shouldn't be out there with a trolling motor. The speed is also a bonus.
      As you said, your pushing $2500 for that setup. The Torqeedo has been around for more than 12 years and they are widely distributed and I believe much easier to find a factory service center (I have one an hour from me) and much easier to buy parts. I have several places around me that sell Torqeedo motors and all kinds of parts for them. I also prefer Torqeedo's battery that is just 13 lbs, fits on top of the motor of my small boat saving room and much easier to carry to the water. And we're not looking at a huge price difference for "the real thing".

    • @jeffchef420
      @jeffchef420 6 місяців тому

      What about the props. Are they the same.

  • @116thcrazy
    @116thcrazy Рік тому +2

    One simple of way of thinking about electricity is a water hose. Volts =Size of the hose Amps= pressure in the hose Watts= The amount of water that comes out. Volts x Amps= Watts

    • @JordanPriede
      @JordanPriede 3 місяці тому

      Volts is more equivalant to pressure. Amps is more equivalent to amount of flow.

  • @maydaverave
    @maydaverave 6 місяців тому +1

    What battery are you using? Max electric rpm is determined voltage. The bigger and better the battery the less voltage sag under load so the higher the top speed.

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  6 місяців тому +1

      In the video I was using a large 12 volt lead acid that people typically buy for their trolling motors.

  • @nealio4278
    @nealio4278 11 місяців тому +1

    best video I've seen so far. Thanks for all of the information. Wow.

  • @MoneyPitBoating
    @MoneyPitBoating Рік тому +1

    Such good info Wayne! That's a solid little motor! It does seem a little louder than our ePropulsion Navy 6.0 EVO, but it's still way better than a loud gas guzzler!

  • @AlrightThanks
    @AlrightThanks 9 місяців тому +1

    Hello, this is exactly what I was looking for. I have a plywood boat made with thin plywood. It is 12 foot long, 8 foot at its widest and has a wheel house that is 54 inches tall. The overall weight of the boat could be 600 pounds or so.
    Do you think a 55lb trolling motor could be enough to go on a calm lake ? All lakes around me are electric only. Thanks

  • @stefanlangheden
    @stefanlangheden Рік тому +1

    It is quite obvious that NT300 would be faster. Mabye you could compare it to a 3 hp petrol outboard in weight, features, range, run time. I have a trolling watersnake 55 for trolling and a 3,5 hp 2-stroke for transport. If i would change something it would be the petrol for a NT300. Good review, thanks

  • @grahameire3845
    @grahameire3845 5 місяців тому +1

    Hi Wayne, do you think one of these would be suitable on a Hunter Medina 20?
    Thank you 🙏 😊

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  5 місяців тому +2

      I'm not sure you'd get enough thrust from any motor this small if the currents and winds aren't being kind. But people have used old Seagull outboards on sailboats in the past - which are about the same power.

    • @grahameire3845
      @grahameire3845 5 місяців тому +1

      @@WayneTheBoatGuy Yes, maybe a slightly more powerful electric outboard would do me, I really want to move away from the petrol outboards, thank you Wayne ☺️

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 9 днів тому +1

      Yes 20 kw

    • @grahameire3845
      @grahameire3845 8 днів тому +1

      @@sharonbraselton3135 Thank you

  • @dustinweaver3032
    @dustinweaver3032 Рік тому +2

    Yes but what is the price difference because I know the electric motors cost a whole lot more than the gasoline Motors

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому +1

      I cover that near the end of the video!

    • @dustinweaver3032
      @dustinweaver3032 Рік тому +1

      @@WayneTheBoatGuy I put my phone down for a second and must have missed that part I will re-watch video thanks for putting out good content. Would love to see more videos on smaller gasoline motors.

  • @frankiannelli989
    @frankiannelli989 Рік тому +1

    Hello Wayne , I've watched your video on the electric motor , and I get it ! Yes the range of distance , the simplicity of use , the fact that its much easier to use. The fact that basically anyone with little knowledge about engines. But did you ever think , what if it breaks down, where do you take it to be repaired .

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому

      Yeah - I imagine there's going to be several years before there's any option other than sending it back or throwing it away.

    • @TJDST4
      @TJDST4 Рік тому

      I don't know about where you live or that Newport brand motor, but the repair shop 3 miles from my house advertises repair and service for Torqeedo outboard motors

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому

      @@TJDST4 That's good to hear!

  • @crestedcarvings
    @crestedcarvings Рік тому +1

    I don't know if that left tab is for reverse? I think it is supposed to be engaged at all times but I could be wrong. I will agree, the display could be more involved, but i just downloaded the app- hoping to get a better reading on the battery while in use. Simple formula: divide your watts (in use) by total watt hours on the battery. Also agreed on the tiller, you can't let go at higher speeds. Just keep those connectors greased and they'll be fine... Overall still a great motor and more than happy with my purchase!

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому +1

      When the tab is in the raised position, it allows the motor to kick up if we hit something going forward. The idea is to prevent breaking the motor if we hit a log, stump or rock. When the tab is down it prevents it from kicking up, and is pretty much essential in reverse because it wants to pop right up. I have been playing with the phone app a little more and it does seem to provide much better info!

    • @crestedcarvings
      @crestedcarvings Рік тому

      @@WayneTheBoatGuy thanks for clarifying that! I don't recall reading that in the manual but very good to know. I did find out the hard way about reverse. I usually keep it locked but coming into shore, that is no-brainer. Thanks for your videos, I'm local to MD myself and you actually helped in my decision to buy one of these for Prettyboy & Liberty. 👍

  • @codyakfishing8856
    @codyakfishing8856 Рік тому +1

    Hey Wayne, a few weeks ago I ordered a 24v 86lb thrust trolling motor for 155$. I put on an APC prop (10X8m-LH) and ran it, full speed it used right about 1000w of.power and I got 5.1mph. This was in a not so hydrodynamic inflatable boat, I wonder what it would do on your boat!!!

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому

      Yeah I’ve often wondered about how different props would be.

  • @EthosAtheos
    @EthosAtheos 8 місяців тому +1

    Generally speaking without knowing the specific battery. You can say a 36v battery is fully charged at ~42v and dead flat ~30-31v. The computer in the battery will shut off before you damage the cells with low voltage.

  • @russellwalsh9081
    @russellwalsh9081 10 місяців тому +1

    Maybe I am missing something. So many are happy with this review. However, the Newport was running at full speed and the riptide at half....and for the riptide the Newport was dragging in the water. Other comments about changing the prop and centering the trolling motor on the transom. Sure the Newport is better, and as mentioned at a cost. I can set up the trolling motor and a small outboard and still be ahead. Needs vary , but I am not sure this is an accurate comparison , just on performance of the two alone.

    • @JordanPriede
      @JordanPriede 3 місяці тому

      The newport troller was on speed 5, and it's 5-speed, so it was running at "full speed".

  • @joesmythe8232
    @joesmythe8232 Рік тому +1

    Is the shaft long enough on the Newport? In discussing noise you cut to the wake, and it shows it stirring things up like the prop is just below or at the surface! Of course it’s noisy… and creating a big efficiency loss. Get that prop down.

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому

      This boat has a 15" transom and this motor isn't sitting shallow - it might even be sitting a little deep.

  • @jerryq1000
    @jerryq1000 Рік тому +1

    Have you considered doing a test/evaluation of trolling motors and their performance using lead/acid batteries vs Li batteries? I'm currently running a Garmin Force w/lead acid batteries... Trying to decide whether or not the investment would be beneficial, as it would also entail me replacing my current on-board charger with a new one that can charge either Li or lead/acid batteries. For a 3 bank Minn Kota, it's another $600 or so on top of the cost of the battery(ies).

  • @kookiethebear
    @kookiethebear Рік тому +1

    Try using one of the current 112lb thrust Minn Kota options and you can use Li batteries with any of them.

    • @classicarcadeamusementpark4242
      @classicarcadeamusementpark4242 Рік тому +1

      I just took a peak on their site. All the ones I saw of that power were bow mounted for moving large boats to troll fishing. I didn't notice any transom mount motors of that power. Did I just miss them?
      Also, how gigantic/expensive are those batteries?

    • @kookiethebear
      @kookiethebear Рік тому

      @@classicarcadeamusementpark4242 Since YT keeps removing my reply with links....Minnkota Riptide Transom 112 (Item# 1363860) and Dakota Lithium 36V 60Ah (48lbs)

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 9 днів тому

      And solid state bsters

  • @azheatsource
    @azheatsource Рік тому +3

    I guess you're chipping away at my outer shell of stubbornness, I'm starting to think about one now.

  • @rittzbyitch3682
    @rittzbyitch3682 Рік тому +1

    Wayne, please do a speed test on the Newport vs the gas outboard, I think the Newport loses and by a large margin say guessing 25% slower minimum. Please confirm this. Also any.reason why the trolling motors at any lbs thrust cannot go past max at 5mph?

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому +2

      Yeah I am working on fixing my 2.5 Mercury to test it against this. I just barely got to 8 mph once with it in my empty 12 foot boat. I am not sure all the reasons why trolling motors max out such a low speed, but I have gone down that rabbit hole several times over the years to see if there was something that could be done to get more out of them, and it seems that all the tweaking, tuning and prop switching only provides very minor gains and often shortens the life of the motor dramatically.

    • @rittzbyitch3682
      @rittzbyitch3682 Рік тому +1

      @@WayneTheBoatGuy I currently have a 47lb minkota that gets my 10 ft jon at 4ish mph. I bought a 24v 240lbs trolling motor off ebay thinking I would definitely get my 10ft jon to fly....max 5mph! that's with 240lb thrust!

  • @BrandonsGarage
    @BrandonsGarage Рік тому +2

    Will it cause a problem if its wet? No. Gap is too big; rain droplets won't be able to touch the two together. Additional corrosion on those terminals would be a concern.
    Now if there was a puddle in the boat, you may have a problem.
    But you're looking at it wrong - your concern should be the battery shorting out, then getting a thermal-run away on that lithium battery then reacting with the water.
    If that battery starts smoking, start swimming.

  • @danp6125
    @danp6125 Рік тому +1

    Just found your channel and subscribed. I scrolled threw your videos looking for battery information. Do i need a marine battery for my 50 lb thrus or can i use a reg battery . And if i get a marine deep cycle do i need a deep cycle charger?

    • @rittzbyitch3682
      @rittzbyitch3682 Рік тому +2

      car battery = poor
      deep cycle marine battery = ok
      LiFePo = best

  • @jamesallen4205
    @jamesallen4205 Рік тому +1

    A fair comparison would be to swap the prop out on the Minn Kota for one with more pitch. 55s are made to push bigger boats. With the small boat used in the test, it's probably maxing out on revs and not showing its true potential.

    • @suffulufugus
      @suffulufugus 5 місяців тому

      They would both need to be adjusted for it to be fair by your terms, no?

    • @jamesallen4205
      @jamesallen4205 5 місяців тому

      @@suffulufugus I'm not familiar with the Newport's setup, but the impression I have is that they are targeting a market that wants to replace gas powered outboards on smaller boats. This would imply they are spec'd with a prop pitch appropriate for speed. However, if that's not the case, then yes; both outboards should be optimized for the test to make a valid point about which has more potential.

  • @harrisji
    @harrisji Рік тому +1

    "As a big dummy like I am". Welcome to my world 😂😂😂😂

  • @michaell1665
    @michaell1665 Рік тому +1

    Nice video - good info! I'm curious how the speed compares of the 3hp Newport to the 55lb Minn Kota. One thing I've noticed is that, just like many competitive products, electric motor manufacturers love the ambiguity of pounds of thrust vs hp vs power in watts! I'm a retired electrical engineer and I see inconsistencies in the marketing! I am very close to making the leap to electrify my 2016 Native Slayer Propel. I'm looking at the kayak-specific models like Newport NK300 and Torqeedo 1103. Bixby is so much weaker - not likely the one for me. Either 3hp, NK300 or 1103, should push me close to 7mph - I want to get to my spot faster, then use my pedal drive! However, a 55#, 70#, or even 80# standard trolling motor is a much cheaper option (especially purchased used). But can it come close to a 3hp Newport or Torqeedo. By the way - I can likely get the NK300 and 3 10 pound Lithium batteries for less than $2000. The Torqeedo 1103 with the larger included battery is $3000 (similar range to Newport).

    • @classicarcadeamusementpark4242
      @classicarcadeamusementpark4242 Рік тому

      I went from a Minn Kota trolling motor to a Torqeedo 1003s. No comparison in the amount of power/speed. I had a Minn Kota 30 lbs, and I called them to ask how much more powerful/faster a 55 lbs would be. They said don't even bother, it will be minimal and I'll be disappointed. From the videos I found online, this seems to be true.
      I have a hybrid inflatable kayak/Zodiac style motorboat/sailboat. You can see clips on my UA-cam channel under my name n8goulet. It's a Sea Eagle Paddleski (I have both the 435ps & 437ps models). On my 435ps, I almost didn't make it back at several locations due to the winds kicking up, or currents. I didn't want to be limited where I could take the boat and have a lot of great places around here that require something more than a trolling motor, so I spent the big bucks and upgraded. A Bixpy is comparable to a trolling motor.

  • @sherlockbonez
    @sherlockbonez Рік тому +1

    Can you get it on plane or adjust trim?

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому +1

      I can do some tweaking, but I don't think this motor will get this particular boat on plane

  • @victorremick9721
    @victorremick9721 Рік тому +1

    HOW MUCH IS A 36 VOLT CHARGER?

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому

      If you buy this battery from Newport the charger comes with it.

  • @ethanstarkey2672
    @ethanstarkey2672 Рік тому +1

    The only way to really compare it would be to use a Minn Kota that is also 36v. Id like to think that the Clamp on 112lb Minn Kota would be as fast or faster than the electric outboard. These 2 motors are really not in the same category, yet they have comparable results.

    • @JosephMBoyer
      @JosephMBoyer Рік тому

      its not, nor build quality as high as nt300, brushless motor (could be 15%+ more efficient) , prop pitch is higher on nt300. all this stuff is what makes it different than a trolling motor and faster. it's just electric. I guess the NT300 could be a trolling motor on a large ocean going vessel.

  • @andrewhamel15
    @andrewhamel15 Рік тому +1

    6:07 my Yamaha 15 horse you twist twords you I believe it’s the same with most outboards

  • @pieseasmyseas
    @pieseasmyseas 5 місяців тому +4

    After the BS they pulled on me with a warranty clame I'll never buy a Newport vessels item again!

    • @brianbrittingham3010
      @brianbrittingham3010 2 місяці тому +1

      @pieseasmyseas I'm dealing with their bs warranty now. First motor broke after 3 months, they replaced it. Replacement broke after 10 trips out. Now they say warranty only covers 1 claim! Garbage motor and company! Out $1000. Trash knockoff is all this garbage is.

    • @pieseasmyseas
      @pieseasmyseas 2 місяці тому +1

      @brianbrittingham3010 I'm a follower of them on Facebook and any other platform they are on. I happily tell the truth every time they release a video, in my story I warn all not to purchase and tell my full story! You should do the same! I will be doing a video on the story once the misquotes allow it.

  • @paulpuglia8480
    @paulpuglia8480 Рік тому +1

    Hello Wayne, you can always buy a second 36V battery as a back up as well. Like your videos and oh yeah I'm enjoying my 2023 Sea Doo GTX 170 God-bless ciao.

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому

      I was hoping to hear an update report on the Sea Doo - that's great!!

    • @sharonbraselton4302
      @sharonbraselton4302 Рік тому

      biy eltric sea dooo 22,5 mile rabfe 1,5 hiu crßer

  • @leadreviewer3257
    @leadreviewer3257 Рік тому +4

    Excellent motor and they are only going to get better with time

  • @codyakfishing8856
    @codyakfishing8856 Рік тому +1

    Great vid Wayne.. I do want to point out (not to be a nag) your speed test with the riptide may be inconclusive, you may have lost speed having it not centered on the transom. My vid will be uploaded soon, but I got 4.5mph on my 55lb thrust on my inflatable using the APC prop. And with the power it consumed and the battery I have, I can run it wide open nearly 6 hours straight...

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому +2

      In your situation, there may be no advantage to having one of these 'bigger' electric outboards.

  • @jasonbroom7147
    @jasonbroom7147 Рік тому +3

    Replace the lead-acid battery with a 100ah lithium iron-phosphate and there is no weight difference at all. You would get twice as much run-time from the conventional trolling motor, as well.

  • @mikesimms5750
    @mikesimms5750 15 днів тому

    I think the key advantages aren't in speed, it's in efficiency. For the same battery capacity and speed, the NT300 will get you further than the Minn Kota due to the much higher 36v operating voltage of the NT300.

    • @mikesimms5750
      @mikesimms5750 15 днів тому

      It also costs a lot more than the Minn Kota

  • @TinyBoatNation
    @TinyBoatNation Рік тому +1

    Hey Wayne, can you give me a call when you’re free? Thanks.

  • @cmacclel
    @cmacclel 7 місяців тому +1

    12v 100AH Lithium batteries are now $199 :)

  • @manny4491
    @manny4491 Рік тому +1

    A regular trolling motor is simply designed to move a certain size boat along slow while fishing! Nothing can do this better Bow mounted and speed does not matter in this application! The Newport and others are really competing with Outboards! Trolling lures behind the boat is the exception!

  • @richardcarlisle6692
    @richardcarlisle6692 Рік тому +1

    I decided against this motor for RIB dinghy because once you add up the motor, 36v battery and charger, ICE just offers more power and range. 6 or 8 HP with a built in tank is small and light.

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому +1

      Yeah a 6 or 8 gasoline outboard is certainly a faster, stronger longer running option.

  • @matthiasschonborn7540
    @matthiasschonborn7540 Рік тому +1

    I'm sorry but the comparison between the two motors just doesn't make any sense at all! "Hey, want to compare a 600 W motor to a 1000 W motor? Whoa, who'd have thought that a 1000 W motor is 1.64 times faster than a 600 W motor???" Well, 1000 W is 1.67 times 600 W! What a surprise!
    As others have said, a fair comparison would be between the NT300 and Minn Kota 80, which has about 1000 W and also costs about the same as the NT300. I figure I'd prefer the Minn Kota since the motor is submerged in the water which makes it much quieter.

  • @gillesgomez3091
    @gillesgomez3091 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting Wayne. Electric motors are becoming competitive for low power ranges (

  • @eddowney9548
    @eddowney9548 Рік тому +2

    apples to oranges. Newport NT300 = 1300 watts, 55lb minn kota = 625 watts. - Try comparing to a 80lb trolling motor, and then we'll see that it is about the same.

    • @eddowney9548
      @eddowney9548 Рік тому +1

      also, at "36v" lithium battery is 42 volts fully charged and 25 volts dead. just fyi, you asked in the video. so, 36v was theoretically 1/2 charged, but the lower half has much less juice than the upper half, so, 37% sounds right, not 50

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому +1

      Every trolling motor I have encountered seems to deliver about the same speed regardless of pounds of thrust.

    • @eagleray1
      @eagleray1 Рік тому

      @@WayneTheBoatGuy If you go apples-to-apples on input power (NT300 vs 80# thrust) then the NT300 will only be slightly higher top speed due to its prop. Troller props are made to top out at lower speeds for better battery life. If you use the same prop for both motors, you're likely to see nearly identical results from two motors of similar input power, whether they're labelled troller or outboard. You're correct that top speed is similar across all small electric motors, but it's not just trollers. Manufacturers want us to believe there's a big difference between trollers and eOutboards so they can double-dip on us, but they're identical inside. The top speed wall is a phenomenon of electric efficiency versus water drag. All electrics drastically lose efficiency in their upper RPM range.

    • @eddowney9548
      @eddowney9548 Рік тому

      @@WayneTheBoatGuy You are correct that they all pretty much go the same speed, but that is pretty much only on calm water with no head wind. They are all designed to go around 5mph, but if they incur too much resistance, the propeller will "slip" instead of moving the boat as intended. Also, they may all be designed to go 5mph, but more wattage = more torque and will get to that speed quicker as well as push through the wind better. I am playing with a redneck barrel boat this summer and have used a 12v troller (45lb) and 24v (80lb) on the same boat. So, everything was equal, but the 24v had twice the battery weight and of course went alot faster. It went faster in all cases with it because my barrel boat is very inefficient. My goal is to run minimum 5hrs at min 3mph. I guess I'm uncommon in that. Like you said tho, nothing really matters except being able to run as far as want at an acceptable pace. Top speed will only drain your batteries fast and shorten your trip.

    • @sharonbraselton4302
      @sharonbraselton4302 Рік тому

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  • @jeffsadon552
    @jeffsadon552 Рік тому

    The problem I see with a battery powered motor is when you go on a multiple day trip and don't have any way to recharge the battery

  • @alfredcoates1422
    @alfredcoates1422 Рік тому

    A far comparison would be a 12v against a 12v

    • @alfredcoates1422
      @alfredcoates1422 Рік тому

      Not to mention the 12v 100amp will last a lot longer than that 36v 30amp

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому

      None of the 3 hp electric outboards are 12v - they are typically 36 or 48 volt.

    • @alfredcoates1422
      @alfredcoates1422 Рік тому

      That's what I'm saying you can't compare the two. The 3hp isn't worth the 2mph the battery is too expensive and doesn't have much life.

  • @sunlightconversions828
    @sunlightconversions828 5 місяців тому

    Inexcusable for them not to have a capacity meter on the motor. Thats a fail.

  • @RKkayak45
    @RKkayak45 Рік тому

    Your comparing a apple to an orange. Not really a fair comparison. 2 completely different modes of equipment

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому

      Several people have asked "how much faster is the Newport NT300 than a trolling motor" - which is why I did this comparison.

  • @rayminthecat
    @rayminthecat Рік тому +1

    ahh the $1000 battery- no body rides for free-

  • @JosephMBoyer
    @JosephMBoyer Рік тому

    range is irrelevant, it's the run-time that's something that can be measured. and newports runtimes are correct.

  • @FGKFishing
    @FGKFishing Рік тому

    It's really not fair to compare a 12 volt motor to a 36 volt motor. It's a good video but you are definitely not doing anybody a favor doing videos like this. Maybe just try reviewing the motor by itself.

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому

      Lots of people have commented on other videos saying this is the same thing as a 12 volt trolling motor. If I make that video, I can guarantee people will comment "How is this any better or different than a trolling motor?"

  • @flatsmasterfishing
    @flatsmasterfishing Рік тому

    Comparing a 36v lithium powered motor to a 12v lead acid. What a joke not a proper comparison what so ever

    • @flatsmasterfishing
      @flatsmasterfishing Рік тому

      Get a 12v lithium of the same AH and compare that weight to the 36v, it will be way lighter and last wayyy longer, allowing you to travel much further. Very flawed comparison

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому

      Many commenters on other videos with this motor had asked for a comparison to a trolling motor.

  • @brianbrittingham3010
    @brianbrittingham3010 2 місяці тому

    Nt300 is TRASH! Dont waste your money! It will leave you stranded! Company is slick with their warranty and will only fix/replace once. My motors lasted 3months and the replacement lasted maybe 10 trips out. Garbage motor and company

  • @gjordan8800
    @gjordan8800 Рік тому

    great commercial but motor $1,199 + battery $849.99 + battery charger $289.95 = 2,347.94 +tax😮😢

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому

      Yes it is certainly quite a bit more money up front - but it should be less hassle and easier over several years when compared to a similar gasoline outboard.

  • @kenkindrick4227
    @kenkindrick4227 Рік тому

    Wayne next time don't talk through the sound test.

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому

      It's hard to capture the true sound - microphones pick it up so much differently than our ears.

  • @kristofers3562
    @kristofers3562 Рік тому

    It's not worth it. That Newport on full speed will drain most batteries in minutes. I can run my Minn kota wide open all day on a lead acid.

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Рік тому

      Several people have said that running a Minn Kota at top speed for a long time causes some serious heat issues.

    • @sharonbraselton4302
      @sharonbraselton4302 Рік тому

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    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 9 днів тому

      ​@@WayneTheBoatGuywrong

  • @victorremick9721
    @victorremick9721 Рік тому

    MAYBE MAYBE NOT THERE A LOT OF MONEY FOR ME. WERE DO YOU GET THEM REPAIRED.. YOU KNOW THERE IS GOING TO BE PROBLEMS. LOOK AT THE E V CARS NO THANK YOU... THEY ARE USELESS IN WEEDS. I JUST DON'T KNOW