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  • @xhazlas2572
    @xhazlas2572 Рік тому +46

    Compliment the oponent's "deck" so they like you more. Gotcha~

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому +12

      I usually find that compliments help my opponents place their cards into their graveyard a bit easier.

    • @ibeeverywhere
      @ibeeverywhere Рік тому

      Lol like wtf

    • @Duchess_Van_Hoof
      @Duchess_Van_Hoof Рік тому +2

      It is a simple and remarkably useful tip.

  • @Stormbringer005
    @Stormbringer005 Рік тому +16

    Wow that complimenting their card or deck advice is top notch. I did this just recently when I swords'd this guys commander to prevent a 22 dmg chandra ignition. I focused less on me shitting on his play and more on how toast we would've been had I not and I could immediately tell he wasn't feeling as bad about it as he probably could've, and the table fed off that energy.

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому +1

      That is awesome Stormbringer, I am so glad that one of my tips worked for you, as they have worked for me countless times with friends or at some different LGS.

  • @foxfire6658
    @foxfire6658 Рік тому +22

    My favorite control deck is mono green artifact hate. Since green had plenty of ways to destroy artifacts so you can turn a non artifact permanent into an artifact and remove it really effectively. Liqui metal torque, coating, and mycosynth lattice are some pretty fun example

    • @theweirdlyfriendlymushroom7920
      @theweirdlyfriendlymushroom7920 Рік тому +1

      What commander do you use for this strategy?

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому +3

      I never really thought of using Liquid Metal Torque as a way for Mono Green to remove stuff! That is awesome.

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому +2

      @@theweirdlyfriendlymushroom7920 I feel like Mono Green has such a wide variety of commanders to choose from. You could probably just pick your favorite way to play: Elves, tokens, ramp, landfall, and then just slot in a solid removal package. Can't go wrong with Mono Green honestly.

    • @foxfire6658
      @foxfire6658 Рік тому

      I use a variety of legends in the deck so the deck can be either fast and responsive with yeva, agressive with goreclaw, or you can just focus on advantage with toski

    • @foxfire6658
      @foxfire6658 Рік тому

      Also note you can turn lands into artifacts and destroy them

  • @bye1551
    @bye1551 Рік тому +16

    This is the perfect video right now, I'm building an Elminster Hyper control deck as a usual Gruul player to expand my commander comfort zone! So hopefully this will be helpful!

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому +2

      When I first saw Elminster I was like: "Cool Gandalf looking guy" Then I saw his alternate art and I couldn't add it to my cart fast enough. Elminster is one of my favorite decks! Goodluck making the switch from Gruul to Azorious.

    • @bye1551
      @bye1551 Рік тому +2

      @@Azoreign I originally built him because I loved Eligeth but I hadn't had a planeswalker in the command zone before but as I went, I realised it was a good opportunity to try some control. Not affected by board wipes, can scry towards my alternative win conditions and can reduce the cost of wrath's every turn and in the best colour for mass removal (white) and pre-emptive threat coverage (blue)

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому +2

      It is like you read my mind! That is a very similar reason as to why I built my Elminster deck. A friend of mine has a very powerful Lord Wingrace deck and I was noticing how powerful it is to have a Planeswalker as a commander.

    • @delroy234
      @delroy234 Рік тому +1

      I sold my grand arbiter deck, because elminster control made feel in love.

    • @ninjaatnight4
      @ninjaatnight4 Рік тому

      ​@Azoreign I wanna get a control deck, elmister is one of the commanders I was lookin into

  • @Captain_poland
    @Captain_poland Рік тому +3

    Great video. Glad to see Niv Mizzet Parun on this list.

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому

      Glad you liked it! Not sure it could be a control video without mentioning Niv.

  • @thelunchlady8276
    @thelunchlady8276 Рік тому +5

    My favorite deck to play is Orzhov control helmed by Kambal. As long as you leave me alone, I'll leave you alone. Then the table just slowly drains themselves.

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому +2

      OOF! Orzhov are great control colors. Hence the reason why I love the color combination of Esper, I always gotta find a way to play blue. But black/white has some amazing gain and drain effects to hit everyone without needing to enter combat.

  • @zramirez5471
    @zramirez5471 Рік тому

    I just bought my first cards since 1998 and esper/dimir/artifact was always my thing; this is a HUGE help!

  • @WeatherWeasel66
    @WeatherWeasel66 Рік тому +9

    Michael Jordan on defense..now that's control....

    • @Commander_Claw
      @Commander_Claw Рік тому

      The MJ on teferi thumbnail made me click! Hilarious

  • @The_Natalist
    @The_Natalist 3 місяці тому +1

    Whats funny, this is the optimal way to play control, playing it cool is the best way to get ignored, and getting ignored playing control is how you win

  • @punkypinko2965
    @punkypinko2965 3 місяці тому

    I'm making my first control deck with Baral. I finely went mad playing against completely overpowered ridiculous commanders. I never tell someone "no I don't want to play against your commander." So now I'm going to say, "Sure ..." like I always do and follow up with, "... if you don't mind if I play Baral." I hope they say yes but if they say no, then I'm not the one saying no lol.

  • @kil0_387
    @kil0_387 Рік тому

    Funniest mtg video I've seen! Great job

  • @Zakading
    @Zakading Рік тому +5

    The hardest part in playing control is honestly dealing with the constant whining of other players as you say "no".

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому +3

      It is the worst when someone plays a game ending spell, you have an answer for it, and they start complaining. "I can't believe you didn't let me win, counterspells are so annoying, this is why I don't play blue."

    • @Zakading
      @Zakading Рік тому +2

      @@Azoreign Yeah. Playing a 'leftover UW pile" Azor the Lawbringer deck and the only game I played it so far, I dropped Venser and the entire game boiled down to a 2 hour 2v1 of the other two guys I usually play with trying to desperately kill my Venser because Azor kept turning their Sorcery removal off every turn, with them turning more and more miserable and salty with every bounce/removal/counterspell I played. Similar thing happened with the very first game of my Massacre Girl deck, where literally the only thing my deck did was exploding the board every other turn (which did result in a very hilarious -26/-26 combo to remove a Consuming Abberation).

  • @cleverkuo-toa644
    @cleverkuo-toa644 Рік тому

    Love this!! Can’t wait to build my own control deck now! Absolutely worth a like comment and sub please keep up the amazing work dude

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому +1

      SO excited to see your comment. Thank you for your support. Want to give us any hints on your new commander???? ;)

    • @cleverkuo-toa644
      @cleverkuo-toa644 Рік тому +1

      @@Azoreign may be sweet sweet Gwafa Hazid and wacky stuff with bribery counters :)

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому +1

      @cleverkuo-toa644 Gwafa was always a cool creature I liked to add in my early EDH decks. But it would always backfire as my friends didn't like not being able to attack me, so they would always go for me once I stacked up a few bribery counters.
      How do you plan to get around the late game hate?

    • @cleverkuo-toa644
      @cleverkuo-toa644 Рік тому

      @@Azoreign no one attacks me I’m way too pretty to be kicked off the pod

  • @PaulissVegan
    @PaulissVegan 10 місяців тому

    I just wanna see more commander control videos from you... :)

  • @wesleyepperson2821
    @wesleyepperson2821 Рік тому +2

    My friends would be ok with the phrase” BOOM PUT THAT CARD IN THE GRAVEYARD LOSER!” Matter a fact I’m going to start doing that 😂

  • @miinyoo
    @miinyoo 7 місяців тому

    I have a ridiculous UBW singularity deck for Commander, like being the Joker amongst the group (funny haha sure but more like in a G-man way) and control is the only way to go. Steal everything and use it against them. Nothing is safe except for removed from game. And then with the rest of the deck just manipulate everyone else's cards and spells. Tapping, untapping, all kinds of crazy stuff. No game is the same twice at all.
    Only problem is, it's really hit or miss. Sometimes it dominates and others it falls flat on its face. The opponents' decks matter a lot. Pulling synergies out of other people's decks is always an interesting time. Makes for great stories.
    Think Braids Adept, Eye of Singularity, Time Spiral, Merieke Ri Berit (commander), every steal permanent spell ever made, Dakkon Blackblade of all guys because why not, Mirror Entity for the surge kill with everyone's creatures, many Dopplegangers, it's a hot mess of manipulation. It's slow as f but when it gets going people just start pulling their hair out trying to kill me from behind 3 Hondens and some other cute infinite life tactics. It's so silly but it's so fun completely without counter spells. There's one, it's bad and it's only for clutch moves, Cancel. That's it. I could use Grand Arbiter but I just feel like it's a dick move in a fun game. Reminding people that everything they cast is 1 more is annoying.
    If I want to be cruel with control, then I have a UB faerie deck made of only 40 - 45 cards. 7 - 8 turn kills with nothing on their board being able to do anything is prolly 60%. It won't beat a zerg zombies or gobs but it'll beat anything that can't get up to speed in that amount of turns.

  • @simoneprina1230
    @simoneprina1230 Рік тому

    Just see this video after the "that guy" video.
    Usefull tips for the neluzar control im go to build

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому

      Thank you for watching! Make sure to share your Nekuzar list so we can check it out.

  • @bernardvezina-gagnon24
    @bernardvezina-gagnon24 Рік тому

    Great tips ! Im playing nymris rigth now and i am struggling to find a win con . Most of the time i can control the board very well but i cant seem to find a way to end . I added demonic consultation and lab maniac. But it is super inconsistent

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому +1

      Finding a way to win with control heavy decks can certainly be difficult! I am planning on making a series of videos with the best ways to win in each color. So watch out for that and thank you for your comment!

  • @Sky-dy4vn
    @Sky-dy4vn Рік тому

    I absolutely love my genisis engine control/artifact deck. Keeps the hand incredibly full and lets you make instant speed blockers

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому

      And who is the commander of your deck??

    • @Sky-dy4vn
      @Sky-dy4vn Рік тому

      @@Azoreign shorikai genesis engine

  • @richardfox7924
    @richardfox7924 3 місяці тому

    "Boom counter spell what are you gonna do about it loser" XDDDDDD i subbed

  • @Notactuallyhere
    @Notactuallyhere 2 дні тому

    Tips 1 - 4 control your opponents perceprion of the game without even using cards

  • @1ionyxMTG
    @1ionyxMTG Рік тому +1

    Playing control is a true mind game. Both on the field, and between you and the other players. Good advise!

  • @ttribs
    @ttribs Рік тому +2

    As long as you don’t counter something silly like a cultivate I think people will understand :)

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому

      I will never live this down...

    • @delroy234
      @delroy234 Рік тому

      @@Azoreign Harrow that I see, counter that I play

    • @Legani
      @Legani Рік тому

      Stifling a fetchland is still rude…but….every chance 🤣

  • @PaulissVegan
    @PaulissVegan 10 місяців тому

    #4 I've never had other players hold back spells, I always have something to attack and to goad and I still hold counterspells/other interaction

  • @Duchess_Van_Hoof
    @Duchess_Van_Hoof Рік тому +1

    The Dimir list I am putting together is a homage to the Time Spiral block, and my very first custom deck.
    It was built around Shadowmage Infilitrator, my first gold card, and had regenerating skeletons, fliers, fear, control cantrips and I absolutely loved it.
    So this one will have defensive creatures, evasion (flying, fear, shadow & unblockable), counterspells, unsommons and weird wildcards. Overall three main keywords: Investigate Surveil, and Suspend.
    It will be scary to go from a ramping battle cruiser deck where I am usually the main threat to this. The Golgari graveyard deck will be a completed first however.

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому +1

      Always nice to hear that someone is stepping out of their comfort zone. I think you have the right idea when it comes to building a DImir deck. A health amount of control with kill, exile, and counterspells along side a solid list of creatures that have great keywords and evasion. Just don't forget to include some top end cards that are going to help you win the game.
      Some of my suggestions are things like: Shark Typhoon, Mindleech Mass, Consuming Aberration (one of my all time favorites!)
      And who is the commander!? There are so many awesome Dimir options.

    • @Duchess_Van_Hoof
      @Duchess_Van_Hoof Рік тому

      The plan is to use Mirari to copy extra turn spells, and attack thrice in one turn rotation. I also have Paradox Haze with two court cards, and Curse of the Cabal, draining life, cards and permanents very quickly.

    • @Duchess_Van_Hoof
      @Duchess_Van_Hoof Рік тому

      @@Azoreign The commander will be Eloise, Nephalia Sleuth, in order to not be too reliant on the commander. And she fits thematically with the rest of the deck.

  • @MrBabysheep13
    @MrBabysheep13 6 місяців тому

    Hey man what precon do you recommend for a person that's a huge azorius fan ? I don't plan on upgrading it straight away, so it'll be fresh out of the box. I'm looking for great control elements in the deck and general good value, if possible.

  • @brockveltri6974
    @brockveltri6974 Рік тому +2

    “How to not win magic and make my friends happy” title for video.

    • @jiaan100
      @jiaan100 6 місяців тому +2

      The problem with commander

  • @Jonnyguitar1877
    @Jonnyguitar1877 4 місяці тому

    As an angry Timmy who is turning to the dark side I really appreciate these tips, unga bunga!

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  4 місяці тому

      Angry Timmy soon turns into a Spike. Once you have unlocked the darkside!

  • @leaflotus6726
    @leaflotus6726 7 місяців тому

    Galazeth Prismari is my control deck, ramping and gunning someone down is pretty fun

  • @mikeowens40
    @mikeowens40 Рік тому +1

    But what about the tips for the blue players who DO wanna be that guy? 😉 solid control tips 👌
    Edit: missed the last part earlier, now I await the sweaty palm control video haha

    • @bye1551
      @bye1551 Рік тому +3

      My 1 tip: get good at first impressions cause you'll be moving pods a lot 🤣😂

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому

      Working on the next video now! Stay tuned and get your pepper shakers ready to even out the salt content in your playgroup.

  • @MegaBekem
    @MegaBekem 7 місяців тому

    When you play a card that I have an answer for every time so how do I compliment my opponent's deck when it dies every time?

    • @MegaBekem
      @MegaBekem 7 місяців тому

      "You almost got me down to 30! I had to damage myself halfway there but good job, though!" Is that good enough?

  • @Mister-jv6zq
    @Mister-jv6zq Рік тому +1

    Niv-Mizzet + Basilisk Collar, Charisma or Sigil of Sleep = ConTROLL🤣

  • @dieguenec
    @dieguenec Рік тому

    Any chance you got your NivMiz control list posted anywhere? I've built a combo deck for him but my friends dont like it at all and since its one of my fave cards I'd like to play a deck that both me and them like

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому

      Funny thing is that MY friends don't like Niv-Mizzet either 🙃 So I actually downgraded my Niv deck to a Balmor, Battle Mage Captain deck. I have a couple suggestions:
      1. No combos. Include your basic control but make sure to include bigger, flashier spells. Niv will draw you cards (and hopefully lands). Then your deck wont be as scary but will still be fun and powerful.
      2. Have you considered switching to another Niv-Mizzet? I know Parun is the strongest one but he has 2 other Izzet cards that are good, but not broken.
      Hope this helped!

    • @dieguenec
      @dieguenec Рік тому

      @@Azoreign I have both Firemind and Parun in deck but the problem is the combo itself. I run Niv + Curiosity + Jace Wielder of Mysteries to win.
      Id be willing to swap the combo for other stuff, but Id like to have a model anyway (im kinda new in EDH)

  • @shrdn2960
    @shrdn2960 Рік тому +2

    I have the feeling that, edh, like all multilayer formats besides 2 headed giant, is a dumb format where you have to deal with timmy's feelings when you dirsupt his plans. So you need to make hasty decisions, let things slide, let people win. I notice that in a lot of games the player who was not doing anything wins because the other spent the game stopping eachother from winning. I believe that mtg was not made for 4 players all vs all pods. As a control player, I believe that 1v1 ot maybe 2v2 are the only way to play a proper game of magic. You can play your control properly, you do not need to negotiate every action or worry that everyone teams up against you all the time. Or...just play stax and control everyone...just to deal with groans and complaints. Also don't touch their lands, land destruction is taboo. What a joke of a format 😂

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому

      You bring up an interesting point. Are you not able to play control to its fullest in commander?? To a certain degree, yes.
      When I play standard I do not hesitate to just grind my opponent into the dirt with board wipes, exile spells, and counterspells. But in commander there exists a social contract between the players and that contract changes when playing with randoms at an LGS or with your friend group.
      You want people to have fun and not get super angry, and you also have to think about yourself too. With 2 additional players your removal spells become that much more important.
      I think in a fortmat like standard control is your finisher and in commander you can play control but need to make sure you have additional finishers in your deck.

  • @warnerpipkins1607
    @warnerpipkins1607 Рік тому +1

    Just order azur control any advice

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому +1

      Awesome! Who is going to be your commander? That will help me give better advice for your deck.

    • @warnerpipkins1607
      @warnerpipkins1607 Рік тому +1

      @@Azoreign heliod,the radiant dawn! Not as likely to be targeted off the rip! Like this guy Grand Arbiter Augustin IV lol

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому

      @warnerpipkins1607 I actually just added Heliod into my Elminster deck. What I really like about Heliod is how much they fit on this card. He enters as a 4/4 for 4 mana AND can bring back an enchantments from your Graveyard to your hand.
      Then he transforms into a Vedalken Orrey that also makes your spells cheaper. If Heliod where in my command zone I would lean into some good enchantment support so Heliod has things to bring back if they get destroyed. And then possibly using artifacts to cast when he flips and possibly top ending with some Eldrazi?

  • @riccardocalosso5688
    @riccardocalosso5688 Рік тому +1

    Hinata is a Kirin, not a Keithrin.

  • @ODIRGO
    @ODIRGO Рік тому

    And where is the fun FOR ME if I play the way you say?? Hehe😂 What's the point of playing control if I can't enjoy their annoyance?

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому

      I think another of my videos may peak your interest: ua-cam.com/video/c-3Mv41fiQQ/v-deo.html
      If you wanna know how to be "That Guy".

  • @mutsuhanma7807
    @mutsuhanma7807 3 місяці тому

    Actually, BE that guy that pauses others spell resolutions...just don't be stupid about it...ask questions and think it over...but let it resolve...dont just say uhhhh sllll, hmmm, uhh...nah be active and look at everything...then say I got nothing or something...

    • @MagdaGust62
      @MagdaGust62 2 місяці тому

      So don't be THAT GUY, be the curious newbie who wants to know what your card do

  • @zekel787
    @zekel787 Рік тому +1

    Tip #1: Don't play control, no one will like you.
    Tip #2: if you choose to not follow tip #1, be prepared to lose all of your friends.

    • @Azoreign
      @Azoreign  Рік тому

      Ha! I have had to live and die by this ideology for years now. "Do I want to play control tonight....or have friends when the game is over????" Until I decided to try and find a way to still play my favorite archetype AND not have my friends turn 0 me the next game.

  • @biasdahl4737
    @biasdahl4737 Рік тому

    I think it’s funny the first half of your video are actually really good piece of advice, and then you proceeded to go into really rude commanders that will piss off your playgroup

  • @MegaBekem
    @MegaBekem 7 місяців тому

    Then I play a Cavern of Souls and a Chimil, the Inner Sun and watch you cry! Then when you try to use your almighty planeswalkers, I play a small little Spark Rupture to continuously kill off your little army! So much for your blue army! Oh, don't even try to mill me to death either, Gaea's Blessing kills that idea too!

    • @MegaBekem
      @MegaBekem 7 місяців тому

      Combos with Meticulous Excavation and Unstable Glyphbridge can be annoying as hell! I use it with Binding of the Old Gods as well! Good luck!

  • @MegaBekem
    @MegaBekem 7 місяців тому

    When you have to team 3 against 1 to take someone out, that's just called petty skilless jealousy! Maybe if you gained some skills, you might actually win a game or two!

  • @MegaBekem
    @MegaBekem 7 місяців тому

    Just because I play a deck that can kill you on turn 1 doesn't mean you have to generate petty skilless jealousy! Get better at the game and you might actually look like you know what you are doing!