I sat in a CX-30 for about 5 minutes, has to be the most uncomfortable seats in a modern SUV sold currently. I loved the look and everything, but the seat was like sitting on a old wooden chair but worst.
@sn4rl277 yup I travel on occasion for work and use National. I got behind the wheel of a CX30 and thought is this for a 6th grader? I felt crushed. I jumped behind the wheel of a KIA Soul and it was very roomy like my Honda Ridgeline, no power to speak of but I was just using it to go to the airport when my job was done.
CX 30 and 5 have the best offers. The hybrid CX 90 is doing ehh too because of EV push. You can lease a CX 5 with 3k down around 320 ORD if you know what you’re doing. CX 30 u can around 280 maybe less with the same amount down. 🤗 good luck. I owned 3 Mazdas and paid 224-309 for the CX 5 and 50
@@OhioVworld Used to have a 2018 Honda CR-V for the past years, replaced it with a 2023 RAV4 Hybrid.. that’s my wife car. When I buy a car I plan to drive it for 10 years no excuses, so after those 10 years I don’t care for the “resale value”. You do that and then it doesn’t matter. Right now my daily driver is a 2016 Toyota Corolla S that I bought brand new for 19400$ OTD. My next car will be a Mazda for sure and I will gift the Corolla to my dad. 132K miles on it, 2 set of tires, brake pads and 1 battery. That’s it!
I was totally going to buy a CX-5 in the Carbon edition trim last year. But after test drive and talking some numbers. I was introduced to the sales manager and he was so slimy I had to go straight home and take a shower. We walked, will never go back, sad because I like the car. But when the Sales Manager puts off the vibes that we got, we said no thanks.
Had similar experience... and the Sales Manager was rather insisting that I explain myself as to why I was walking... I'm like, I don't need to justify my life's decisions to you.
@@totalnoobfishing1753 Oh, they called us but we didn't answer. I get they want to know, but I didn't want to get into it and really didn't want to deal with the dealership if they kept a guy like that around as their Sale Manager. Spoke volumes about their culture there.
So, it's great the way your dealing with little or no fee's. I have yet to hear you do a deal in Florida. The dealers in our state ALL have "Dealer fee's" usually at least $995(pure profit) and they will not budge off this fee. So discounting a vehicle $2,000 off is really only $1,000 off.
Lease deals are pretty much the same Negotiate your cap cost with any applicable rebates/incentives/hold backs.Then just make sure you are getting base money factor and correct residual.
@@JJ-mh3hb I think Tomi would disagree. If you know how to negotiate cap cost ,and understand how/why money factor on a lease is less than financing often,you'd might lease. At worst ,a lease should be an acquisition fee insurance policy to guarantee future value
@@JJ-mh3hb Ever go out drinking with the guys? You are a sucker, paying for a beer at a bar when it's a fraction of the price at the liquor store. Spend the week in the Caribbean? What a fool. Go to Ocean City Md. Want a BMW? The base Honda Civic will get you to where you want to go. Just like all those things I mentioned, leasing is a lifestyle choice. You got $500 in your budget for a call. You can buy a Chevy and pay for it over 72 months. Congratulations, you now own a six year old car and have $500 to now spend on something else. Or you can lease a much nicer car for three years. Then in three years, you get another new car and after six years, you get your third new car instead of using that $500 on something else. If you want a nicer car, latest safety features and reliability, lease. If you want to purchase a cheaper car to save money, nothing wrong with that either. It's one of the lifestyle choices we make. Neither of us are suckers.
@@delayedgratification581don’t EVER feel bad for them! they rip people off on the daily, you getting a good deal will not put them out of business. plus you do the dealer a favor taking a car off their lot…. they have to pay a monthly stocking fee for cars sitting on their lot!
Mazda's are great cars to buy. Curious what you think one could get off a cx-30 within reason. I went to a local dealer and they had 10 in a row of the same color. I just wish the head gasket was an easier job but at least they don't blow very often.
Do you just never call back the other dealer that gave you the 2200 off in the first place? Just curious if once you get the deal you want if you contact the other dealers you were talking with again
I always wonder, too. He gives his name and contact info. Must have a burner phone so he can ghost them after lolololol. Wonder what happens when one sees their conversation on youtube.
I’ve tried to negotiate on a Buick envista avenir and have had no luck. Jerry’s Buick gmc in TX advertising $27k but when you go through it it’s actually $36k out the door.
Any recommendations for how to negotiate when there aren't any other dealers? I'm in Alaska and I'm lucky if there's a second dealership in the state. Going to the lower 48 involves shipping the car up by boat.
@@drewlanz6287 An electric in (COLD) Alaska................... hmmmmm, have your lost your mind? Just kidding, but seriously, that probably isn't a good plan.
@@PelicanIslandLabs So you're not kidding then, so why say you are? The range on modern EVs, even when reduced in the cold, is going to be just fine for everything short of long road trips, which I'm not going to be doing in winter anyway.
So do you always ask for 2k under MRSP on the first dealer or was this a specific event? I feel like we need a video on this. Everyone else who agrees reply here so Tomy knows
@@JJ-mh3hb always negotiated myself, got burned years ago and said never again, so I taught myself.... but can understand for some why they would hire someone.....he runs a business just like any other
Woohoo, good to know! I negotiated 10% off msrp from my 2016 Honda civic 8 years ago. On top of having some accessories thrown in for free. And it was one of the last few cars with that specific trim in California back then!
@@kian.concepcion times were a bit different back then.From 2016-2020 Accords were a minimal of 13% offMSRP to be a decent deal.Civics were 10% minimal. Now days the only deep deals I negotiate or EX Accords
Personally, I used the Costco auto program and Sam’s club auto program and I got a better offer with the Costco. So I was looking to get a brand new Lexus 2025 and I got a discount of 6k. The only thing is that I had to do a few visits to the dealership but it was totally worth it. Long story short use them to your advantage and you might get a really good deal
You're not really playing the dealers against each other, because they are only matching prices, not giving you any deeper discounts. The first dealer gave you an extra $200 off, but then added in a $250 "doc" fee. You should have told the second dealer that you would buy from them if they did $2500 off MSRP.
Great video but I was a little nervous with you flashing Voldemort's wand around the way you were. 🙂 If you have two dealers who are offering the exact same price, whom do you go with? The closest one?
yeah there’s no law against it but just because you said it doesn’t mean they have to match it. ultimately they will do what makes sense for them if they can they probably will. more towards the end of the month they are more willing to play ball to get it off there books
Terrible deal. My friend got $6000 off a loaner Mazda CX5 with 2000 miles on it. For what you charge for your services, if i wasn't getting a lot off a new or used vehicle, I wouldn't use you.
Where is the dealership that offered this deal? I have a few in my area, Chicagoland, that have similar cars, but they are priced $800 below MSRP. I think that is crazy.
@@NERV3 also depends on the dealer. Tried to get a good deal going last month on a 2023 Silverado that was a loaner with 6K miles on it. Showed them a deal I had with another dealer that was $2500 under OTD for one with 5 miles on it and they wouldn’t even match it. Insane
I like how you play the dealers ego’s against them. “They said you couldn’t even touch this”. Keep up the great work.
It is one of my favorite tactics :D
the cx-30 has a huge inventory! bet they will start offering deals soon to try to sell some!
The cx30 is great if your 5ft 7 and 155 lbs. Cramped cx 5 or bigger...
I sat in a CX-30 for about 5 minutes, has to be the most uncomfortable seats in a modern SUV sold currently. I loved the look and everything, but the seat was like sitting on a old wooden chair but worst.
@sn4rl277 yup I travel on occasion for work and use National. I got behind the wheel of a CX30 and thought is this for a 6th grader? I felt crushed. I jumped behind the wheel of a KIA Soul and it was very roomy like my Honda Ridgeline, no power to speak of but I was just using it to go to the airport when my job was done.
CX 30 and 5 have the best offers. The hybrid CX 90 is doing ehh too because of EV push. You can lease a CX 5 with 3k down around 320 ORD if you know what you’re doing. CX 30 u can around 280 maybe less with the same amount down. 🤗 good luck. I owned 3 Mazdas and paid 224-309 for the CX 5 and 50
had a 2016 mazda for 3 years only spent 10 bucks on repair they are solid cars
True, but Hondas have much higher resale, so I opted for the Honda.
Mazda is so underrated
@@OhioVworld Used to have a 2018 Honda CR-V for the past years, replaced it with a 2023 RAV4 Hybrid.. that’s my wife car. When I buy a car I plan to drive it for 10 years no excuses, so after those 10 years I don’t care for the “resale value”. You do that and then it doesn’t matter. Right now my daily driver is a 2016 Toyota Corolla S that I bought brand new for 19400$ OTD. My next car will be a Mazda for sure and I will gift the Corolla to my dad. 132K miles on it, 2 set of tires, brake pads and 1 battery. That’s it!
Why dont you go to the DMV and register the car yourself right after you buy it and save the processing fee if it is like 500 dollars or more.
I was totally going to buy a CX-5 in the Carbon edition trim last year. But after test drive and talking some numbers. I was introduced to the sales manager and he was so slimy I had to go straight home and take a shower. We walked, will never go back, sad because I like the car. But when the Sales Manager puts off the vibes that we got, we said no thanks.
Had similar experience... and the Sales Manager was rather insisting that I explain myself as to why I was walking... I'm like, I don't need to justify my life's decisions to you.
@@totalnoobfishing1753 Oh, they called us but we didn't answer. I get they want to know, but I didn't want to get into it and really didn't want to deal with the dealership if they kept a guy like that around as their Sale Manager. Spoke volumes about their culture there.
@@sn4rl277 💯 - you watch enough of these types of videos and you can hear what the quality sales managers sound like.
So, it's great the way your dealing with little or no fee's. I have yet to hear you do a deal in Florida. The dealers in our state ALL have "Dealer fee's" usually at least $995(pure profit) and they will not budge off this fee. So discounting a vehicle $2,000 off is really only $1,000 off.
Can you do a live lease negotiation? I don't see any videos of yours covering leasing.
Lease deals are pretty much the same Negotiate your cap cost with any applicable rebates/incentives/hold backs.Then just make sure you are getting base money factor and correct residual.
That's because leasing is for suckers and this channel isn't for suckers
@@JJ-mh3hb I think Tomi would disagree. If you know how to negotiate cap cost ,and understand how/why money factor on a lease is less than financing often,you'd might lease. At worst ,a lease should be an acquisition fee insurance policy to guarantee future value
@@woodrowbunopaddle sounds like a guy who sells leases. Ever wonder why stealerships always show you lease before buy
@@JJ-mh3hb Ever go out drinking with the guys? You are a sucker, paying for a beer at a bar when it's a fraction of the price at the liquor store. Spend the week in the Caribbean? What a fool. Go to Ocean City Md. Want a BMW? The base Honda Civic will get you to where you want to go. Just like all those things I mentioned, leasing is a lifestyle choice. You got $500 in your budget for a call. You can buy a Chevy and pay for it over 72 months. Congratulations, you now own a six year old car and have $500 to now spend on something else. Or you can lease a much nicer car for three years. Then in three years, you get another new car and after six years, you get your third new car instead of using that $500 on something else. If you want a nicer car, latest safety features and reliability, lease. If you want to purchase a cheaper car to save money, nothing wrong with that either. It's one of the lifestyle choices we make. Neither of us are suckers.
If dealer 2 just matches dealer 1, which one do you go with -,-
I’m not sure when to STOP negotiating, $200 difference?
Normally I stop when nobody else will beat it :)
Sounds good!
I feel a bit bad pitching them against each other but hey, it's either my money or theirs.
@@delayedgratification581don’t EVER feel bad for them! they rip people off on the daily, you getting a good deal will not put them out of business. plus you do the dealer a favor taking a car off their lot…. they have to pay a monthly stocking fee for cars sitting on their lot!
I am waiting for the Cars Rule to come into effect before I buy my next car. Looking at the 2025 Camry.
NC dealers want 700 to 900 for there doc fees I would take 200 all day long.
Tell me about it. I was just shopping this past weekend in NC
Doc fee varies from state to state, here in indiana im pretty sure dealers cant charge more than like $600
Why would I care; I only negotiate the out the door price.
Why are you even having long conversations with these ppl.
CA is capped @ $85....everything is ridiculous though, lol
Mazda's are great cars to buy. Curious what you think one could get off a cx-30 within reason. I went to a local dealer and they had 10 in a row of the same color.
I just wish the head gasket was an easier job but at least they don't blow very often.
Probably similar to this deal on the cx-5 depending on the dealer of course, i work at a mazda and the cx-30 and cx-5 have about the same mark up
@@rodrigotenorioyahoo Thank you man I really appreciate people who make car sales easy.
@@user-vk2cd9qw7i no problem man, most mazda dealers right now have a tom of inventory so theyre pretty aggressive in making deals
Have you had any success negotiating on 'special' cars like Audi RS3, BMW M2, Honda Civic Type R?
I would like to know the MSRP and Invoice $$$ of the car your working with, great skills on the phone - definately will do this next time
Do you just never call back the other dealer that gave you the 2200 off in the first place? Just curious if once you get the deal you want if you contact the other dealers you were talking with again
I always wonder, too. He gives his name and contact info. Must have a burner phone so he can ghost them after lolololol. Wonder what happens when one sees their conversation on youtube.
@@jeffreybarker357 And that's why they want a deposit to hold the car lol
Let them know that you have purchased so that they don’t blow you up.
curious...do they send you a text with the price? how often do they try to add unexpected fees? or try up sell something on you?
I’ve tried to negotiate on a Buick envista avenir and have had no luck. Jerry’s Buick gmc in TX advertising $27k but when you go through it it’s actually $36k out the door.
Any recommendations for how to negotiate when there aren't any other dealers? I'm in Alaska and I'm lucky if there's a second dealership in the state. Going to the lower 48 involves shipping the car up by boat.
Drive it up here! I'm up here too. What are you looking for?
@@mattcallahan6587 An electric, which makes driving it up the Alcan a no-go, unfortunately.
@@drewlanz6287 An electric in (COLD) Alaska................... hmmmmm, have your lost your mind? Just kidding, but seriously, that probably isn't a good plan.
@@PelicanIslandLabs So you're not kidding then, so why say you are? The range on modern EVs, even when reduced in the cold, is going to be just fine for everything short of long road trips, which I'm not going to be doing in winter anyway.
yeah but it could still be worth it, or take a trip and drive back
So do you always ask for 2k under MRSP on the first dealer or was this a specific event? I feel like we need a video on this. Everyone else who agrees reply here so Tomy knows
Would it be helpful if I broke down my tactics in a separate video?
@@Delivrd Definitely.
@@Delivrd Absolutely!
@@Delivrd Yessir.
depends on current market/incentives for that specific vehicle @ any specific timeframe.......
I'm interested in possiblity paying for your services. What OTD price do you think you get me on a Boulder Gray 2024 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X in Utah?
10% off of MSRP, I don't know an OTD as I don't know your state
I see your state, I stand by the comment though. Exact fees may change, but 10% off MSRP plus TTL
Nissans come out the box with 10% off you don't gotta pay him lol
@@JJ-mh3hb always negotiated myself, got burned years ago and said never again, so I taught myself.... but can understand for some why they would hire someone.....he runs a business just like any other
He wants 10’s on the surveys because he knows he treats people terribly. So he wants survey insurance.
Hey Tommy! Do you have a "good, better, best" range when negotiating under MSRP?
7-10% is the goal. 5 good 7 better 10 best
@@Delivrd What indicates 10 is possible? Do you think you could have come closer to that on a CX-5 ?
Woohoo, good to know! I negotiated 10% off msrp from my 2016 Honda civic 8 years ago. On top of having some accessories thrown in for free. And it was one of the last few cars with that specific trim in California back then!
@@kian.concepcion times were a bit different back then.From 2016-2020 Accords were a minimal of 13% offMSRP to be a decent deal.Civics were 10% minimal. Now days the only deep deals I negotiate or EX Accords
@@woodrowbunopaddle I see! I guess I only negotiated a 'normal' deal haha
What do you think of buying programs like Costco, AAA, etc.?
Personally, I used the Costco auto program and Sam’s club auto program and I got a better offer with the Costco. So I was looking to get a brand new Lexus 2025 and I got a discount of 6k. The only thing is that I had to do a few visits to the dealership but it was totally worth it. Long story short use them to your advantage and you might get a really good deal
Would love to see you work a deal on a new truck
You're not really playing the dealers against each other, because they are only matching prices, not giving you any deeper discounts.
The first dealer gave you an extra $200 off, but then added in a $250 "doc" fee.
You should have told the second dealer that you would buy from them if they did $2500 off MSRP.
👍
Wait was it a Chinese dealer/ sales rep on the right side (zoom video)?
Is this Gunther?
Steven Thomas lmao
Can you do a video on negotiation on the new Kia K5?
I just found your channel and am genuinely curious, do you buy a new car every day or just waste these guys time?
he is a broker.I would guess all of these deals are legit ,and a car gets purchased/leased
you have to tell them $200 lower each time, so you still win if they match it ✌️
exactly, otherwise its just same deal
link to twitch?
Are you even really a Sagittarius? 😂
8:51 Royal Moore
If I am looking to buy a tacoma in oklahoma could you help me out and what do you charge?
1k
Is that refundable $500 deposit the salesperson mentioned in 6:10 a legit method to secure the vehicle?
Yeah most dealers will secure the vehicle for you because they know they have a deal but I have heard of shady ones that will sell it regardless
Can you do a rav 4 hybrid xse pls? My gf is trying to be this car this year
Great video but I was a little nervous with you flashing Voldemort's wand around the way you were. 🙂
If you have two dealers who are offering the exact same price, whom do you go with? The closest one?
so can you lie to the dealer and say um well I had three quotes and the lowest was 5000 off MSRP in this video the salesman didnt even ask what dealer
You can, but they'll tell you to buy the car there
You can if you want to be a total POS
yeah there’s no law against it but just because you said it doesn’t mean they have to match it. ultimately they will do what makes sense for them if they can they probably will. more towards the end of the month they are more willing to play ball to get it off there books
Terrible deal. My friend got $6000 off a loaner Mazda CX5 with 2000 miles on it. For what you charge for your services, if i wasn't getting a lot off a new or used vehicle, I wouldn't use you.
Where is the dealership that offered this deal? I have a few in my area, Chicagoland, that have similar cars, but they are priced $800 below MSRP. I think that is crazy.
brand new cars and loaners are different things
@@NERV3 also depends on the dealer. Tried to get a good deal going last month on a 2023 Silverado that was a loaner with 6K miles on it. Showed them a deal I had with another dealer that was $2500 under OTD for one with 5 miles on it and they wouldn’t even match it. Insane
So he got $6000 off of MSRP on a used car. Great comparison
thats not a new car
You need to put these dealerships name on and stop protecting them, lame on your part.
That guy sounds like a scammer
Why you gotta lie?
the more videos i watch the less i like this guy.
It’s ok. You don’t have to watch
Bro, what don't you like about him? He's AWESOME!!
@@Delivrd Exactly! he says he doesn't like you, but admits that he watches more and more. 🤣
You want to help me get a cx90. I need your help😂
I’d love to help!
@@Delivrd can I email you, if yes what your email? Gonna need one in 3-4 months, got another kid on the way😂