Thank you for all the wonderful comments on this page. And special thanks to M. Hassan Ilyas and the team of the Ghamdi Centre for Islamic Research for sparing the time to answer my difficult questions.
میری زندگی کی سب بہترین ویڈیو ہے یہ۔حسن الیاس نے ہر سوال کا ایسے جواب دیا جیسے غامدی صاحب گفتگو کر رہے ہوں۔غامدی صاحب کو دس سالوں سے سن رہی ہوں ۔آج یہ ویڈیو ان کے لیے بھی فخر کا باعث ہوگی کہ ایسا شاگرد انھوں نے تیار کیا۔ سب سے اعلی بات ان کی بات کرنے کا انداز ہے۔ گھنٹوں سننے کا دل کرتا ہے۔یقینا انھون نے دین کا علم حاصل کرنے میں بہت محنت کی ہے۔
This young scholar (Hassan Illyas) is a real GEM. The kind of knowledge he has in such a young age is mind blowing, what a brain Masha-Allah!!. May Allah give him more knowledge and heights. Overall, it was a truly academic talk!!
شکریہ تیمور صاحپ اللہ کا شکر ہے کوئ تو ایسا صاحپ علم ملا جو کسی مذہبی اسکالر سے با مقصد سوالات کر سکے اور اللہ خوش رکھے جاوید احمد غامدی صاحپ کو جنھوں نے حسن الیاسی جیسے قابل شاگرد تیار کر دیے جو اسلام کا صحیح پیغام دنیا تک پہنچا سکے ہم منتظر رہیں گے ایک اور نشست کے شکریہ
31:55- 34:30 what mindblowing clarity of thought and one can see even Taimur is highly impressed. Thank you Ghamidi sahab and Hasan for giving us the basic principle that perfection and divine guidance ended with Muhammad SAW. Everything after that is the interpretation of fallible humans who were more learned than you and I but humans nevertheless and falls under the ambit of history at best. It has nothing to do with foundations of faith. This has saved me and my kids from a lot of doubts and confusion. May Allah bless you both
What a masterpiece of discussion. Both of them showed an absolute sense of mannerisms and mutual respect. Highly enlightening talk. Huge respect for both scholars. 👍👍
Self Affirmation Biasness leads to a comment like this. Would be amazed if you really put these okhy sawalat Infront of Ameer 'Khudam ul Quran' , Qaisar Ahmed Raja, Youth Club, Sahil Adeem, Any student of Molana Modudi or Dr. israr. Don't fool others by fooling yourself Dr. Shb. I hope you won't take it as a negative comment. 😊
Very useful and constructive discussion. The credit goes to Ghamdi sahib who really produced his successor,very articulate and learned. Wish both the intellectuals a long and healthy life.
Bravo Hassan Ilyas and Thank you @Taimur_Laal for raising these questions. This QnA session is and will be sad'qa-e-Jaria for opening many people's eyes and give them clarity regarding the confusion created over centuries none other than by our own traditional and obsolete so called scholarly institutes. I specially thank to Hassan Ilyas for sharing his time and learnings, while appreciating his oratory skills.
I would like to express my gratitude to the Ghamidi Center for their incredible talk. It has effectively dispelled numerous misconceptions and provided valuable insights. In my observation, there is no other institution in the world that possesses a scholar of the caliber of Hassan Ilyas. His intellect, eloquence, and persuasive abilities are truly exceptional.
Ghamidi sahab and now Hasan have not memorised Islam in a Madrassa but have a deep knowledge of Arabic language which they have applied to understand Quran in its context. No wonder they are able to provide a holistic picture whose spirit can be applied in all places and eras while being very clear on the basic principles.
Taimoor sb, once again, you envoked so thought-provoking discussion. It goes without saying that I m ever grateful to Gahamdi sb, Hasan sb for their duch enlightening arguments, which pulled me back toward our religion
A very unique and much needed discussion which I have been expecting for a long time. Congratulations to Hasen Bhai and Tamur Rehan ....It will help thousands of unsatisfied minds having intellectual mind set , understand Islam in a better perspective.....I hope that kind of discussion will be kept continuously in future with other intellectual as well.
It's a wonderful discussion , very rational questions by Taimur Bhai , I think you represented all of us by asking this questions ...and very precise and logical answers by Ilyas Bhai ...I hope there will be more such sittings in future ...thank you both of you
Beautiful discussion! Hassan sb is a genuine scholar of Islam having a strong understanding of society with historical backdrop.... Timur sb is a master of polity, economics and history... We learn from both scholars.... God bless you both....
What a constructive discussion. I was visiting MEMO Science Museum in Amsterdam and there they have displayed timeline of major scientific major events. I could see that Muslims were there in innovation and science until 16th century but later, it was all wiped out. It always stayed there in my mind, where and why we Muslims left that track. Thanks Dr. Taimoor for asking this question and Ilyas for answering this.
This great conversation tells us about two thing: 1) A genuine student of deen will always argue with sense and respect for differing opinions. 2) Questioning what we don't know is better approach than blindly following. Allah ghamidi sahb ko aur Almourid ki sari team ko jaza e khair day aur mazeed himmat dain. Thank you Dr. Taimoor for the inspiring session with Hassan bhai. Just loved the way you both spoke.
السلام علیکم، حسن صاحب کمال کی گفتگو۔ا یسی گفتگو میں نے کم از کم میں نے اپنی پوری زندگی میں نہیں سنی۔ علم بڑے بڑے لوگوں کے پاس ہوتا ہے لیکن بات کرنے کا سلیقہ، زبان اور پیشکش صدیوں میں کسی کو ملتی ہے۔ غامدی صاحب علم کا سمندر ہیں تو اس سمندر کی چمک حسن الیاس ہے۔ اس کم عمری میں ایسی فصاحت اور روانی ساتھ ساتھ غامدی صاحب کا علم جیسے اس نے پیالے میں بھر کر پی لیا ہو۔ دل سے دعا ہے خدا آپ کو وہ دن دیکھائے جب لوگ آپ کو دیکھ کر غامدی صاحب کو پہچان جائیں۔
Alhamdulillah. Jazakallaho Khera to both of Secular & Sacred Scholars Dr. Taimur Rahman and Muhammad Hassan Ilyas Sahab. So brilliant discussion about *Islam: Thought Provoking Questions* related to Deen, Khilafat e Rashida, Malooqiat, Rise & Fall of Muslim Rationality & Science, Blasphemy & Apostasy Laws etc. May Allah guide all of us to get Falah here and here after world. Aameen Sum Aameen...
السلام علیکم۔۔۔ Apart from the great scholarly position of Hasan Ilyas Sahab, I am pleased to acknowledge that Dr. Taimur Rahman Sahab is an intellectual person in the real sense. It's for the first time that I listened to Dr. Rahman. My love and thanks to him... Abdul Rahman, Delhi-NCR
Two masterpiece of different field sit together MashAllah Good Intellectual question answers session. I have learn a lot from these two Intellectual Philosophy and Theology.
@TaimurRahman1975 Thank you Taimur Bhai for asking questions... questions always magnify knowledge... and no doubt Brother Hasan Ilyas is a very learned, talented, and well-versed student of Respectable Ghamidi Sb
Lovely! Particularly pleased with how Hassan Ilyas has evolved to take the legacy of Ghamdi sb forward in a manner that the great man would be proud of.
Interesting discussion, important and relevant to ponder over the understanding of religion and intersection with science using a dispassionate and academic discourse, no need for hate, violence or condemnations. Outsourcing religion to professional mullahs has been a major factor in creating misunderstandings and alienation of the youth and educated people.The self acclaimed scholars are primarily focused on defending their sects rather than the religion of Islam and most are misleading people, minting Chanda by dividing people
ہمیشہ یہ دکھ ہوتا تھا کہ غامدی صاحب کے بعد ہمارا کیا ہو گا ۔ مطلب کون ان کی جگہ لے گا۔ بہت بڑے عالم ہیں ۔ اللہ ان کو زندگی دے ۔ جنہوں نے الحمدللہ مجھے شعوری مسلمان کیا ۔ لیکن حسن الیاس صاحب کو سن کے یہ دکھ اب نہیں ہے ۔ الحمدللہ ❤
Hasaan is a eliquent speaker ghamdi sb reserch and eliqence both helped us to learn quran hope hassan sb will have the habbit of research too Allah bless u
Thank you for all the wonderful comments on this page. And special thanks to M. Hassan Ilyas and the team of the Ghamdi Centre for Islamic Research for sparing the time to answer my difficult questions.
Thanks brother ❤
Great questions Taimur bhai ... thanks for asking them ... with each question, I was literally like "hey, I wanted to ask that" :D
@Intellectual Islam hassan ilyas bhai aalim e deen hyn, jin sahiban ka name apne liya woh arabic linguistics ko hi nahin janty
Nicely done!
I seek your pardon. I misunderstood you for long time.
Khoobsurat discourse.
Bhai Tamor Sahb k Sath podcast kro ... Waiting
ماشاءاللہ، شاگرد میں استاد کی خصوصیات بہت نمایاں ہیں، جس روانی اور استدلال سے حسن الیاس صاحب نے گفتگو کی ہے وہ لائق تحسین ہے
ماشاءالله
میری زندگی کی سب بہترین ویڈیو ہے یہ۔حسن الیاس نے ہر سوال کا ایسے جواب دیا جیسے غامدی صاحب گفتگو کر رہے ہوں۔غامدی صاحب کو دس سالوں سے سن رہی ہوں ۔آج یہ ویڈیو ان کے لیے بھی فخر کا باعث ہوگی کہ ایسا شاگرد انھوں نے تیار کیا۔ سب سے اعلی بات ان کی بات کرنے کا انداز ہے۔ گھنٹوں سننے کا دل کرتا ہے۔یقینا انھون نے دین کا علم حاصل کرنے میں بہت محنت کی ہے۔
the most intelligent podcast ever of any Islamic scholar
شُکر اُس رَب کا کہ جس نے مُجھ ناچیز کو استادِ محترم غامدی صاحب جیسی عظیم نعمت سے نوازا! 😍 💕
شُکر اُس رَب کا کہ جس نے مُجھ ناچیز کو استادِ محترم غامدی صاحب جیسی عظیم نعمت سے نوازا! 😍 💕
This young scholar (Hassan Illyas) is a real GEM. The kind of knowledge he has in such a young age is mind blowing, what a brain Masha-Allah!!. May Allah give him more knowledge and heights. Overall, it was a truly academic talk!!
شکریہ تیمور صاحپ اللہ کا شکر ہے کوئ تو ایسا صاحپ علم ملا جو کسی مذہبی اسکالر سے با مقصد سوالات کر سکے اور اللہ خوش رکھے جاوید احمد غامدی صاحپ کو جنھوں نے حسن الیاسی جیسے قابل شاگرد تیار کر دیے جو اسلام کا صحیح پیغام دنیا تک پہنچا سکے ہم منتظر رہیں گے ایک اور نشست کے شکریہ
31:55- 34:30 what mindblowing clarity of thought and one can see even Taimur is highly impressed. Thank you Ghamidi sahab and Hasan for giving us the basic principle that perfection and divine guidance ended with Muhammad SAW. Everything after that is the interpretation of fallible humans who were more learned than you and I but humans nevertheless and falls under the ambit of history at best. It has nothing to do with foundations of faith. This has saved me and my kids from a lot of doubts and confusion. May Allah bless you both
What a masterpiece of discussion. Both of them showed an absolute sense of mannerisms and mutual respect. Highly enlightening talk. Huge respect for both scholars. 👍👍
Self Affirmation Biasness leads to a comment like this. Would be amazed if you really put these okhy sawalat Infront of Ameer 'Khudam ul Quran' , Qaisar Ahmed Raja, Youth Club, Sahil Adeem, Any student of Molana Modudi or Dr. israr.
Don't fool others by fooling yourself Dr. Shb.
I hope you won't take it as a negative comment. 😊
Very useful and constructive discussion. The credit goes to Ghamdi sahib who really produced his successor,very articulate and learned. Wish both the intellectuals a long and healthy life.
Aameen
SumAameen
دو نوجوانوں کی معیاری عالمانہ گفتگو سن کر بہت لطف ایا۔ ۔۔۔۔اللہ تعالیٰ ان کو سلامت رکھے اور جزائے خیر عطا فرمائے !۔۔۔۔۔اللہم زد فزد !
What a masterpiece. Loved it. It felt like a reminder of Ghamidi Sahab’s talk on same questions.
اللہ پاک آپ دونوں کی حفاظت فرمائے
بہت ہی اعلیٰ گفتگو ۔۔۔
I must congratulate Dr. Taimur and Hasan İlyas for the most insightful discussion on the Muslim history.
ھل جزا الاحسان الا الاحسان
Huge respect to taimur sir for asking questions on behalf of us
Mashallah. Thank you Taimur Sahib for inviting Hassan Ilyias Sahib and Sharing such a thoughtful conversation. ♥️
بہت اچھے سوالات اور بہت اچھے جوابات۔
Bravo Hassan Ilyas and Thank you @Taimur_Laal for raising these questions.
This QnA session is and will be sad'qa-e-Jaria for opening many people's eyes and give them clarity regarding the confusion created over centuries none other than by our own traditional and obsolete so called scholarly institutes.
I specially thank to Hassan Ilyas for sharing his time and learnings, while appreciating his oratory skills.
The fluency, coherence, content, tone everything at its place in Hasan sir speech. Indebted to your work.
Zuban keya hoti hai..... Mujhy aj sy koi 7 sat pehly inko sunky laga k bohut hi alla chezz hai
Indeed brother... How to use alvaz to convey
Flow and coherence in ideas, to the point talk, intellectual discussion ... Just phenomenal
ان الدین عنداللہ السلام کیا ھے
Two of my favourite in one screen
ازاد خیال لوگوں کے لئے غامدی صاحب کی تحقیق و تشریح راس آئی ھے ۔
I would like to express my gratitude to the Ghamidi Center for their incredible talk. It has effectively dispelled numerous misconceptions and provided valuable insights. In my observation, there is no other institution in the world that possesses a scholar of the caliber of Hassan Ilyas. His intellect, eloquence, and persuasive abilities are truly exceptional.
He is a Ghamidi student afterall
You are so humble, amazing. ہمیں دو لفظ آجائیں تو آسمان سر پر اٹھا لیتے ہیں اور آپ کی عاجزی قابل ستائش ہے
Hassan Ilyas really proved he is brilliant student of legendary teacher, Ghamdi Shab.
Ghamidi sahab and now Hasan have not memorised Islam in a Madrassa but have a deep knowledge of Arabic language which they have applied to understand Quran in its context. No wonder they are able to provide a holistic picture whose spirit can be applied in all places and eras while being very clear on the basic principles.
جزاکم اللہ
An hour well spent. That's how a conversation should be conducted. Bravo!!
Maza aa gaya.
Finally we have some intellectual discussion.
کمال گفتگو سننے کا موقع ملا ھے جزاک اللہ خیرا حسن الیاس بھاٸی ۔
Ustad-e-Mohtaram Javed Ghamidi Saheb must be very proud of Hassan Ilyas. His clarity of thought is exceptional Ma Sha Allah.
A very enlightening and thoughtful session❤
Agreed
Taimoor sb, once again, you envoked so thought-provoking discussion. It goes without saying that I m ever grateful to Gahamdi sb, Hasan sb for their duch enlightening arguments, which pulled me back toward our religion
A very unique and much needed discussion which I have been expecting for a long time. Congratulations to Hasen Bhai and Tamur Rehan ....It will help thousands of unsatisfied minds having intellectual mind set , understand Islam in a better perspective.....I hope that kind of discussion will be kept continuously in future with other intellectual as well.
In sha Allah
حسن الیاس بھائی بہت ہی اچھی گفتگو کرتے ہیں میں سمجھتا ہوں کہ دوسرے لوگوں کو بھی انہی کی طرح گفتگو کرنی چاہیے۔
It's a wonderful discussion , very rational questions by Taimur Bhai , I think you represented all of us by asking this questions ...and very precise and logical answers by Ilyas Bhai ...I hope there will be more such sittings in future ...thank you both of you
Jazakallah for a highly enlightening discussion
الحمد لله
ایک عرصہ کے بعد علمی معلومات پر مبنی پروگرام تھا ماشاء اللہ اخلاق بیت اعلی ہے
بہت خوشی ہوئی آپ لوگوں کی discussion سن کر۔بہت سارے misconceptions دور ہو گئے
Enlightening discussion on such questions
Beautiful discussion!
Hassan sb is a genuine scholar of Islam having a strong understanding of society with historical backdrop.... Timur sb is a master of polity, economics and history... We learn from both scholars.... God bless you both....
بہترین گفتگو جزاک اللہ
What a constructive discussion.
I was visiting MEMO Science Museum in Amsterdam and there they have displayed timeline of major scientific major events. I could see that Muslims were there in innovation and science until 16th century but later, it was all wiped out. It always stayed there in my mind, where and why we Muslims left that track. Thanks Dr. Taimoor for asking this question and Ilyas for answering this.
Thankful to Hasan Ilyas sb and Dr Taimoor. Enlightening. Wonderful discussion, thought provoking .
Amazing we need to learn to listen
بہت عمدہ کلام۔۔۔
اللّٰہ تعالیٰ نظر میں دین صرف اسلام ہے
Jazak Allah Khair
This great conversation tells us about two thing: 1) A genuine student of deen will always argue with sense and respect for differing opinions. 2) Questioning what we don't know is better approach than blindly following. Allah ghamidi sahb ko aur Almourid ki sari team ko jaza e khair day aur mazeed himmat dain. Thank you Dr. Taimoor for the inspiring session with Hassan bhai. Just loved the way you both spoke.
اتنے اعلیٰ سوال اور اتنے اعلیٰ جواب ،سبحان اللہ ❤
بہت عمدہ پروگرام ۔
السلام علیکم،
حسن صاحب
کمال کی گفتگو۔ا یسی گفتگو میں نے کم از کم میں نے اپنی پوری زندگی میں نہیں سنی۔ علم بڑے بڑے لوگوں کے پاس ہوتا ہے لیکن بات کرنے کا سلیقہ، زبان اور پیشکش صدیوں میں کسی کو ملتی ہے۔ غامدی صاحب علم کا سمندر ہیں تو اس سمندر کی چمک حسن الیاس ہے۔ اس کم عمری میں ایسی فصاحت اور روانی ساتھ ساتھ غامدی صاحب کا علم جیسے اس نے پیالے میں بھر کر پی لیا ہو۔ دل سے دعا ہے خدا آپ کو وہ دن دیکھائے جب لوگ آپ کو دیکھ کر غامدی صاحب کو پہچان جائیں۔
Very interesting session . Ghamidi sahib has trained Hassan very well! Congratulations .
Thanks!
Taimoor is good listener 👍👍
بہت اچھی علمی گفتگو ھوئی
ماشاءاللہ
Alhamdulillah.
Jazakallaho Khera to both of Secular & Sacred Scholars Dr. Taimur Rahman and Muhammad Hassan Ilyas Sahab.
So brilliant discussion about *Islam: Thought Provoking Questions* related to Deen, Khilafat e Rashida, Malooqiat, Rise & Fall of Muslim Rationality & Science, Blasphemy & Apostasy Laws etc.
May Allah guide all of us to get Falah here and here after world.
Aameen Sum Aameen...
Allah ka shukr h me sochta tha ghamdi sahab ke bad kon hamari rehnumai karega kuch had tak fikr door hui love u sir
Jaisay UstAad Waisay student b 💕🤞
Ma shaa Allah Hassan Bhai Great...
ALLAH awpKu aur b iLm sey nawazay ameen sum aMeen
Excellent session. Thank you Dr Taimoor and Hassan Bhai
Ghamidi sb is dor me ummat ka sbse bra asset hain Allah apko lmbi umr dy
السلام علیکم۔۔۔
Apart from the great scholarly position of Hasan Ilyas Sahab, I am pleased to acknowledge that Dr. Taimur Rahman Sahab is an intellectual person in the real sense. It's for the first time that I listened to Dr. Rahman. My love and thanks to him... Abdul Rahman, Delhi-NCR
Two masterpiece of different field sit together MashAllah
Good Intellectual question answers session.
I have learn a lot from these two Intellectual
Philosophy and Theology.
@TaimurRahman1975 Thank you Taimur Bhai for asking questions... questions always magnify knowledge... and no doubt Brother Hasan Ilyas is a very learned, talented, and well-versed student of Respectable Ghamidi Sb
This is such a masterful and courageous discussion.
❤
مکالمہ ہماری اہم ضرورت ہے اور اس پروگرام میں بخوبی کیا گیا ہے ۔ 🌹🌹
بہت ہی متاثر کن گفتگو❤
What a brilliant podcast ❤
Pure logic and rationality.... amazing 👌🏼
Absolutely amazing n intellectual thoughts !
ماشاللہ جزاکاللہ ❤
Maashallah bohat khoob discussions. Good food for thought.
ماشاءاللہ بہت اچھی گفتگو ❤جزاک اللہ خیر
Hassan Illyas Bhai provided some excellent comments, and he truly is the legendary Ghamidi Sahib's heir.
Wah Zabardast 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
OKHAAY SAWAAL DY SOOKHAAY JAWAAB
Lots of love 💞💝💕💝💞💕🌼
Thanks
Excellent, thought provoking discussion
Kia baat hai ! Soch bdl rahay hain hassan bhai
Zbrdst awesome... MashaaAllah
wonderful program, excellent discussion
“And those who rule by other than what allah revealed are disbelievers.” -Quran
دل و دماغ میں ہلچل مچا دینے والی گفتگو
What an amazing intellectual conversation.
Superb.A true follower of a great scholar Ghamidi sir.
JazakAllah
Lovely! Particularly pleased with how Hassan Ilyas has evolved to take the legacy of Ghamdi sb forward in a manner that the great man would be proud of.
Interesting discussion, important and relevant to ponder over the understanding of religion and intersection with science using a dispassionate and academic discourse, no need for hate, violence or condemnations. Outsourcing religion to professional mullahs has been a major factor in creating misunderstandings and alienation of the youth and educated people.The self acclaimed scholars are primarily focused on defending their sects rather than the religion of Islam and most are misleading people, minting Chanda by dividing people
ہمیشہ یہ دکھ ہوتا تھا کہ غامدی صاحب کے بعد ہمارا کیا ہو گا ۔ مطلب کون ان کی جگہ لے گا۔ بہت بڑے عالم ہیں ۔ اللہ ان کو زندگی دے ۔ جنہوں نے الحمدللہ مجھے شعوری مسلمان کیا ۔ لیکن حسن الیاس صاحب کو سن کے یہ دکھ اب نہیں ہے ۔ الحمدللہ ❤
MASHALLAH GREAT DISCUSSION, RIGHT WORDS FOR THE RIGHT NATION.
Masha Allah Allah bless you More and more always Hassan bhai
Too much Respect for Taimur Sb. and Ilyas Sb....You both heroes in field of knowledg......Hats off!!!
Throughly enjoyed the session. Thanks a lot both of you. Hope to hear more from you!!
اے ایمان والو اسلام میں پورے کے پورے داخل ہو جا ٶ ( سورت بقرہ )
Great decision............ I wanted this podcast
Hasaan is a eliquent speaker ghamdi sb reserch and eliqence both helped us to learn quran hope hassan sb will have the habbit of research too
Allah bless u
SubhanAllah real scholarly and very enlightening.
PL continue more and more such discussions. STAY blessed❤
Very informative and productive session.
Ma Sha ALLAH. Aj 2 lall (Diomands) ko akhatay sunany ka moqa Mila .
ALLAH bless you boths ❤ Ameen
Hassan Ilyas ❤ , a well spoken intellectual gem groomed by Ghamdi sahab . I’m very satisfied that he will continue the legacy of ghamdi sahab ❤️
Mr. Hassan has a reflection of Mr. Ghamdi unusual intelligence
A profound discussion. Salute to both the scholars