I trained in both a Cessna 172 and a Cherokee PA28-161. Piper was easily the better plane for me. Landing was softer and smoother in the Cherokee. I would say the Cessna was like flying a truck versus the Cherokee (Warrior II) which was like flying a comfortable sedan.
Thank you. For some people this will not make difference, but as a student pilot it was very important for me. Looking forward flying more airplanes and adding my car comparisons :) Thanks for watching.
@@tooey MIT released their ground school online course and I am going over it right now ocw.mit.edu/courses/aeronautics-and-astronautics/16-687-private-pilot-ground-school-january-iap-2019/
@@TheAlexIceman This is the proper volume for a video. No music over talking and no low mic mumbler that's so 2015! In fact the other video the guy mumbling made this video go blaring loud! Like fire alarm loud!
I’m learning in a piper, and the inside is kinda cramped, my instructor and myself are both fairly big guys, he’s kinda wide, and so am I, plus I’m 6 even so it does feel cramped a bit. And idk if this is true but I’ve been told by folks that a Cessna is easier to fly, and if that’s the case I’m kinda glad to be learning in a more challenging plane.
It’s good when you like the plane you learn in. I tend to believe that you should learn in the airplane that’s mostly available to you and its complexity should not be a factor. In fact, it’s better to learn in less demanding aircraft. You have so much to learn and the last thing you want to do is dealing with more “challenging” plane. This goes against all decision making rules form FAA. But I wouldn’t say Piper is more complex. Cessna is just like a big elegant (SUV). Give you more time to process and think.
Hey Iceman, I fly a Cessna 172 and my biggest complaint is it feels that I'm flying under an umbrella. It is a little floaty on landing as well. It is a great plane, and leaps off the ground. They hold up well to students like you and I. (Training at 4B9)
I like 172 as a training aircraft, it's very forgiving and that's what I am looking at when flying as a student. It's also less demanding. I see quite a few people start their training in cirrus sr20, and they are way behind the airplane. I'll take 172 any time of the day. Regarding the umbrella feeling, I don't really feel it that much and I like the view under the wing. In all honesty I would like to fly as many different types as possible to learn.
@@cbwelch4 Cessna is much more in demand due to the fact that most of the flight schools have them and people learn to fly Cessnas. A lot owners put them in clubs as a business, demand is higher. If you compare new Pipers and New Cessnas, the price tag for pipers is higher in general. And it's more complex aircraft.
They are both very reliable airplanes if maintained right. Pick a club that has a good number of airplanes and has its own hangar with mechanics. If there are a lot of Cessnas and they have their own A&P (mechanics), you should see a better maintain airplanes. I fly out of Palo Alto and we have quite a lot of Cessnas and our own shop to maintain them. Very easy as if I have any concerns/questions, I stop by the hangar and chat with our chief mechanic.
Great review and car comparison! At 55 years of age, it appears the Cessna also has an advantage of entering/exiting the plane. Do you find that to be true?
100% agree with you and having both door is a very good benefit. Climbing my the wing is defiantly not the best way to get into an airplane, especially when I think of my passengers. I really like PA46 for that and aiming to get it some day.
Hey Kyle, thanks for the note! I'll do a better job next time with leveling audio. It does sound a bit loud for a good 10-15 seconds and goes back down. Thanks for watching and noticing!
My daughter is interested in learning to fly, but she is short -- about 5'2". The two flight schools in our area each use different training aircraft. One uses Cessna 152's and the other uses Piper Archer II. Is there one that would be easier for her to fly, or easier to see out of, or easier to reach the controls given that she is sorta short?
Thanks for the comment. In my opinion 152 is better as in piper you kinda tilted back like on a sedan and 152 you seat upright and will have better visibility.
100% agree that Bonanza would make the best first airplane to own/fly, however they are more expensive and a but more demanding. I am very happy with 172 and looking at 172->182->BonanzaA36/CirrusSR22->PiperPA46->Twin->hopefully jet
I've heard that as well. And I have that in my pipeline after my PPL + glider. Apparently glider techniques are very helpful, especially if you fly in mountain wave conditions and can apply skills to use it to your advantage.
I trained in both a Cessna 172 and a Cherokee PA28-161. Piper was easily the better plane for me. Landing was softer and smoother in the Cherokee. I would say the Cessna was like flying a truck versus the Cherokee (Warrior II) which was like flying a comfortable sedan.
Thanks so much for taking the time to do this.
My pleasure!
The car comparison was perfect. I've never heard of a better comparison lmao
Thank you. For some people this will not make difference, but as a student pilot it was very important for me. Looking forward flying more airplanes and adding my car comparisons :) Thanks for watching.
I can’t wait until this COVID-19 restriction is lifted in NYC, I’ll start doing flight Vloggs. Great video, I subbed !
Go for it! I've been meaning to add more videos, but stuck at home and grounded. Doing my ground school!
Alex Iceman
Yeah man it really sucks right now, I can’t even rent! What ground school are you working on?
@@tooey MIT released their ground school online course and I am going over it right now
ocw.mit.edu/courses/aeronautics-and-astronautics/16-687-private-pilot-ground-school-january-iap-2019/
@@TheAlexIceman This is the proper volume for a video. No music over talking and no low mic mumbler that's so 2015! In fact the other video the guy mumbling made this video go blaring loud! Like fire alarm loud!
I’m learning in a piper, and the inside is kinda cramped, my instructor and myself are both fairly big guys, he’s kinda wide, and so am I, plus I’m 6 even so it does feel cramped a bit. And idk if this is true but I’ve been told by folks that a Cessna is easier to fly, and if that’s the case I’m kinda glad to be learning in a more challenging plane.
It’s good when you like the plane you learn in. I tend to believe that you should learn in the airplane that’s mostly available to you and its complexity should not be a factor. In fact, it’s better to learn in less demanding aircraft. You have so much to learn and the last thing you want to do is dealing with more “challenging” plane. This goes against all decision making rules form FAA. But I wouldn’t say Piper is more complex. Cessna is just like a big elegant (SUV). Give you more time to process and think.
Hey Iceman, I fly a Cessna 172 and my biggest complaint is it feels that I'm flying under an umbrella. It is a little floaty on landing as well. It is a great plane, and leaps off the ground. They hold up well to students like you and I. (Training at 4B9)
I like 172 as a training aircraft, it's very forgiving and that's what I am looking at when flying as a student. It's also less demanding. I see quite a few people start their training in cirrus sr20, and they are way behind the airplane. I'll take 172 any time of the day. Regarding the umbrella feeling, I don't really feel it that much and I like the view under the wing. In all honesty I would like to fly as many different types as possible to learn.
@@TheAlexIceman The only complaints is it looks like you are going to have a hard time seeing over the dashboard.
The microphone on your headset sounds great. What kind of headset is it?
Thanks for your insight.
Happy to help!
Alex Iceman If the Piper is the better plane, why is it cheaper when there are more Cessna’s to buy?
@@cbwelch4 Cessna is much more in demand due to the fact that most of the flight schools have them and people learn to fly Cessnas. A lot owners put them in clubs as a business, demand is higher. If you compare new Pipers and New Cessnas, the price tag for pipers is higher in general. And it's more complex aircraft.
Which is more reliable from a engine and control surfaces perspective?
They are both very reliable airplanes if maintained right. Pick a club that has a good number of airplanes and has its own hangar with mechanics. If there are a lot of Cessnas and they have their own A&P (mechanics), you should see a better maintain airplanes. I fly out of Palo Alto and we have quite a lot of Cessnas and our own shop to maintain them. Very easy as if I have any concerns/questions, I stop by the hangar and chat with our chief mechanic.
Great review and car comparison! At 55 years of age, it appears the Cessna also has an advantage of entering/exiting the plane. Do you find that to be true?
100% agree with you and having both door is a very good benefit. Climbing my the wing is defiantly not the best way to get into an airplane, especially when I think of my passengers. I really like PA46 for that and aiming to get it some day.
2:00 warning. Music starts up and gets LOUD so don't grab a snack so you can crank the volume down!
Hey Kyle, thanks for the note! I'll do a better job next time with leveling audio. It does sound a bit loud for a good 10-15 seconds and goes back down. Thanks for watching and noticing!
My daughter is interested in learning to fly, but she is short -- about 5'2". The two flight schools in our area each use different training aircraft. One uses Cessna 152's and the other uses Piper Archer II. Is there one that would be easier for her to fly, or easier to see out of, or easier to reach the controls given that she is sorta short?
Thanks for the comment. In my opinion 152 is better as in piper you kinda tilted back like on a sedan and 152 you seat upright and will have better visibility.
LOL, in your thumbnail you look like Keith Kalfas.
He runs a popular UA-cam channel.
Haha good point!
I should ping him
*Beechcraft Bonanza A36 is the best plane L0ol *
100% agree that Bonanza would make the best first airplane to own/fly, however they are more expensive and a but more demanding. I am very happy with 172 and looking at 172->182->BonanzaA36/CirrusSR22->PiperPA46->Twin->hopefully jet
To be a really good pilot you should learn to fly in a taildragger.
I've heard that as well. And I have that in my pipeline after my PPL + glider. Apparently glider techniques are very helpful, especially if you fly in mountain wave conditions and can apply skills to use it to your advantage.
My next step :)