@@jimnfl7134 Keene and Diaz have fought 5 times, once every season except S3, and if you remember, Daniel and Johnny were in a bar debating, and Daniel stated that they fought more than 10 times
I think what I like the most about this fight is that, while it was super important to both Robby and Miguel, when it’s over Miguel’s disappointed, but not mad at Robby. It could’ve been so easy to blame him, but they’re far beyond anything petty like that.
Yeah. Although Robby was mad at Miguel earlier. That’s because Tory wasn’t there for him. Although now that she isn’t there. I feel Robby and Miguel will have a strain in their relationship again.
Damn, i love when Robby does that robot Karate shit, as soon as he saw Torry he changed into that robot Robby. His body barley moves and hes just blocking everything, that's that real Miyagi shit
Yeah that’s why I think Kwon doesn’t have a chance against him kwon has great offense but he’s not balanced like Robby everything kwon can do Miguel as well so it shouldn’t be that hard for Robby realistically once he realizes kwon isn’t a balanced fighter
Theres no better fighter here. There both even in there own right. What separates Miguel from Robby is Miguel is a fiercer more aggressive fighter and sometimes it overwhelms Robby. While Robby is more calculated and calm. Which is why i love them both 💯
Honestly I’m a personal Robby fan. Watching both of these characters fight throughout the entire series has been amazing. I can’t say one better than the other. Miguel a lot better Offense fighter while Robby better at defense. Also depends on the headspace both characters are in. Miguel was broken at S4 and Robby was distracted in S4. Now seeing there both prime fighting in the final season amazing. Overall I’m glad there brothers and working together.
I’ve seen some say that they nerfed Miguel, but I actually think the exact opposite. Dude suffered a back injury and the doctors were unsure whether he’d walk again. He was paralyzed but learned to walk again and learned to fight again as well, all in less than a year I think. on top of that, every time Robby and Miguel have fought, Miguel has always been the winner. Whether it be the first all valley tournament they attended, the fight at the school or the fight at the apartment complex. I don’t get how people say that Miguel is nerfed. If anything, I feel like Robby is a character who has been nerfed a bit. They always show him as one of the most formidable fighters, able to take out an entire dojo of students, he is also very intelligent, using both Cobra Kai and Miyagi Do before either Eagle Fang or Miyagi Do, yet he always seems to come second. I also think just because Miguel has won against Robby, doesn’t mean it’s guaranteed he will win everytime. No one is perfect and I think Robby and Miguel are pretty much even in terms of the strongest fighters, though I will give the edge to Miguel. But in the end, Robby really needed this and I think he’s overall a better leader and deserves to be captain, even though I know they’ll probably cop out and make Robby lose to the new character Kwon and Miguel will take his place and beat him, but anyway I’m really happy for Robby. He deserved a win.
@@kyleb7974exactly. Bro was bloodied and was fighting Robby alone. Robby on the other hand took out two other Cobra Kai students while fighting an enraged Miguel and still was relatively evenly matched.
@@footyflamez7455 nah , miguel needed that win to get into stanford so he was not focused on the fight but rather on the college whereas robby wanted that win cause he always came second so he was really focused on the win .
@@shantiprakashbihani1420actually the whole Stanford thing was in his head. He felt if he won the SekaiTaikai it would get him into Stanford well I mean Sam suggested it but there isn’t evidence of that. In fact Miguel points out they didn’t care about all valley. Basically, Miguel wanted to win because he felt it would get him into Stanford. Robby needed to win because his confidence was shot after losing twice. And there are far more suited extracurricular activities for Miguel to do for his college transcript. Interning at the car dealership directly under Mr LaRusso for example.
I think Robby chose Karate as way of life, he probably end up being a sensei. Miguel used karate to get through life in difficult times, he will go to college and make loads of money. That being said, they both are formidable fighters. It's just Robby is a born fighter, while Miguel is more of a survivor.
Not true at all, he lost in a street fight refed by johnny in season 4 (not 100% sure if it’s 4) while being in a calm status, Miguel and johnny started cobra kai again, doesn't make sense for Robby to be better than miguel
This wasn't even the "best Miguel" because he was worried about Stanford. The best Miguel and best Robby was in season 5 where they fought where that was the most fair fight ever.
@@Anomaly_Files18Robby still wasn’t balanced he still had things going on his life he was still on the outs with the Larusso’s Kenny chose Cobra Kai over and he broke up with Tory that’s why he wins here because he has balance Miguel has never known balance at all
even though they act like brothers now, they will always be the biggest rivalry of karate... i still think they are evenly matched which is what makes this so great.
Lol Miguel won the whole freakin tournament in S1. Robby lost to Miguel and Hawk in S1 & S4. The only time besides this that Robby got the better of Miguel was in S4 when he wasn't back to the full use of his skills yet due to his back injury. All of these seasons are in close proximity to one another, just like the movies. Then of course when Miguel showed mercy in S2 just before getting kicked over the railing, it's clear Miguel beat Robby once again getting him in that arm lock.
Mf better tournament fighter miguel beat robby in the tournament 😅 and probably could’ve won back to back if it wasn’t for the hip injury and Robby had his chance but lost to hawk 😅
@@dominickraheem8459 he beat when he had his injury he didn’t attack Robby at his strongest and I’m a Miguel fan but Miguel is better when he’s not focused on points
Yet another video where people miss the entire point of everything and scream nerfed, etc etc. Dudes, Miguel was dominating Robby in the beginning--because Miguel was focused and centered and Robby wasn't, until Tory showed up, then Robby became very calm and collected and Miguel started to go off balance as Robby rallied. Then Sam's comment shook him even worse, doubling down on his mentality of the college situation--he lost the Mushin--the no mind, and his mind was no longer on the fight. That is the great thing about this show--it is much truer to live--plenty of times, amazingly skilled people have a bad round, or a bad day or bad match because of other reasons, the mindset is a very important things. I think everyone, even Robby, knows Miguel is the better fighter overall, but they are close enough that if Miguel is off his game and Robby is on his, Robby can definitely take the cake.
I disagree with that. Why would Robby believe Miguel is a better fighter, just because he beat him? Robby lost in s1 because he was injured. Robby lost in s2 because he got angry and went on straight offense which he wasn't trained in how to control. S5 they were both fighting at their best when they both started fighting all out but Miguel wanted it more as he got his rage amp. And no Miguel saying "no I need this" didn't throw him off. This was his motivation to win. Robby's was to be able to win Tory. On top of that Miguel started getting flustered that Robby was countering everything he threw at it him, which makes sense. They are equal. Just because Miguel won more doesn't make it better considering Robby wasn't at his best physically and mentally in the first and second fight respectively. It's just who's balanced on the day.
@@phillwilliams2781 Yeah, no. In season 2, Miguel had him dead to rights, even though technically Robby won because Miguel let up. In season 5, they were both as fine as they could be, lets not forget Miguel has recovered from an injury where he shouldn't even walk again and yet he is going toe to toe with the best. You can clearly see in this fight the "I need this" is Miguel going on tilt. The quality of his fighting and his facial expressions show how much tilt he is going on right after Robby gets his first point and when Sam says what she does, you can tell Miguel is thinking even Sam is worried he might lose and that totally shakes his confidence. Miguel > to Robby. has been through the whole show at least in pure skill. Sometimes when people have a good reason it pushes them through, other times when you want something too much your head is not in the game, and it throws you off. This is very clearly the latter.
@@JPWagnerIshwa no one said Robby won s2. They went back and forth. Robby clearly lost his advantage the second he gave into his anger and went on offense and disregarded defense. Miguel was able to capitalize on it. And no. Miguel wasn't better in s1 and 3. S4 Robby could have been argued better than Miguel and Miguel won s5 fairly. And no im pure skill Miguel isn't better than Robby. Miguel's advantage over Robby is is will and mindset. Miguel has been in a better mindset than Robby in the times he's beaten him. You can say he was "tilted" because of what Sam said if you, but that doesn't mean he was unbalanced. Miguel said he needed it because he wanted it. And the show continuously shows us once someone is unbalanced, their fighting ability isn't as good and Miguel was putting in work regardless of losing, he was still able to press Robby uptil Robby was able to flip him to secure the win. End of the day it's been said. A focused robby would be near unbeatable and we've never seen him fully balanced until now
@@phillwilliams2781 I love this debate. My prediction is that Miguel will perform better than Robby in the Sekai Tekai because Robby is not going to be as balanced because of Tory leaving. What do you think?
@@haqr5010 it's a reasonable argument. But if the writers were just gonna make Miguel dominate and let Robby be unfocused that'd be lazy. Tory will come around soon enough. I think Robby will be balanced enough to win. At least I hope
I think what's interesting is that Miguel, who started out at Cobra Kai,is better fighter then Robbie when he's calm, a trait generally associated with miyagi do, while the opposite is true for robby, what I'm trying to say if they fight and they're both angry, Robby always wins, while if they are both calm and collected, Miguel whens every time
If they’re both angry, Miguel wins as shown by season 2, if they’re both calm Miguel wins as shown by season 5 Robby wins if he’s calm and Miguel is not
@@agnikaineverdies7646 what part of Miguel being paralyzed makes u think he won lol, the school fight was probably they angriest either of them have ever been
@@traviscrumbey7969 Literally the part where he had Robby on the floor in an armlock ready to break it, that's exactly the moment Miguel won that fight.
@@coltongoldHe can’t. Only the captains can enter the finals of the Sekai Tekai. So Miguel is not going to the finals. He will take them to the finals where Robby can finish them off. Being an ultimate assist maker. But he can’t win now. The only way Miguel will win is if Robby gets badly injured and they have to swap places, and Miguel becomes the new captain. Which won’t happen, because they won’t rip this opportunity away from Robby this quickly.
@@georgie545😂😂 bro are you the writers no so don’t say Robby gonna win. He’s the worst fighter why would the worst fighter win the whole tournament when he can’t even win a school tournament 😂😂 make 0 sense. Who cares if he hasn’t won this is supposed to be real fights not just give him a trophy because he never won 😂😭 man you are really annoying and not that intelligent
I like how they are really highlighting the superiority of Miyagi-Do style this season. In this fight and in the Johnny/Barnes fight. Once Robbie starts focussing on defense instead of forcing the action he takes over this fight.
One of my biggest problems with Cobra Kai is what they’ve done with Miguel. The first two seasons were heavily focused on him and I feel like he’s been sidelined ever since. Now that Robby won the fight it looks like he’s going to have a lesser role again.
@@simoneorioliThat’s such an accurate comparison. Miguel is legit just there because fans love him. I don’t really feel like he has much going on. Hopefully he gets his moment in Part 2/3.
Season 3 he had a big role. He was recovering from an injury that Season. Season 4 Johnny becomes his Dad. Season 5 Miguel had a Mexico arc. Season 6 is about him moving on to the next life. College. He’s just sharing the spotlight. They haven’t forgot about him. They don’t wanna overdo Miguel. His story is just as big as any other now.
Honestly Miguel when he is focus he can beat anyone and the same with Robby, but you can tell when both of them aren’t on point they both attend to fall off the tracks, I honestly feel like if these two could fight with nothing on there minds or nothing holding them back, it could go absolutely either way. So those of you that say Miguel or Robby is better. It’s more of who is more focus and i honestly haven’t seen these two fight with out them both going through something. I think the closest we got to that was s5 but then again that was a street fight (Yes I am a Miguel fan but Robby is good too)
I agree, it only made Miguel more desperate. However, it *did* serve a purpose. Sam was trying to inspire Miguel, in the same way he inspired her when she was fighting Devon. "Sam. You're the better fighter. Everyone knows it. The ref might not be doing you any favors, but you've got us in your corner." Sam figured returning the gesture would inspire him, because it worked for her in her fight. But unfortunately, it ended up backfiring. She's a teenager that made a naive attempt at encouraging her boyfriend. That's all.
@@retrox64gamesjust say you’ve never been in a tournament match bro Reassurance when ur on the verge of losing is something anybody will give the fighter to make sure it doesn’t get to his head, not saying it always works but it serves a purpose
I’m seeing this in the comment section. Why are some of y’all saying that Robby only wins this fight as a consolation and that Miguel will end up fighting Kwon in the finals? That doesn’t make sense
I agree. Their saying that Robby only won because of sympathy of the writers. This being the fifth time they fought it would've been very predictile if Miguel won this fight aswell since he won every other one. The rumoured theory is that Robby will be injured while fighting and Miguel will replace him as captain. I believe this theory because it started out with miguel and it will end with miguel. Even if Robby does end up not getting injured and will fight kwon I believe kwon will win versus robby and Miguel will fight Kwon elsewhere and will win to end the show.
@@keyonterogers if that were to be the case then what would be the point of Robby earning captain just for Miguel to end it? Like I said, it wouldn’t be right
I think Robby should win the tournament. Miguel won his tournament but Robby needs a win for once but not if is he is doing it for the sake of being number one. He needs to win for himself
As a Miguel fan I'm glad that robby won this fight and became the captain of his team because he was so overshadowed by Miguel and Hawk and didn't get many moments to chine as a "champion" The writers needed to develop Robby's character and give him a big role to play And don't worry because maybe Robby will get injured in the part 2 of S6 so Miguel somehow will replace him and win the fucking sekai takai
Robby has been outshining everyone for two season the writers have given Robby plenty of chances to shine it doesn't matter if he won. Robby will lose to Kwon in the first tournament and Miyagi Do will realize how good Cobra Kai is and have to change some things. IMO it's no way after watching the training and fight choreography this season can you make me believe any Miyagi Do kids can beat Cobra Kia. The fighter was better season 2 and 3 now the kids look like amateurs.
In my opinion, they're both good. They're match with each other. Some days are in favor of Robby, some are in favor with Miguel. Just like life. You don't always win. But you always improve. Robby wanted to win because he's always second. Miguel Needs to win for STANDFORD. For me, Robby's cause is more of a motivation type. That's why he won. Miguel is a little out of focus. Because he's pressured on college. We all know his situation, they lack of money. Miguel's desperate, while Robby is focused. But atleast Miguel won on a match with no points, and no holds barred, no referees, and I think that's a better win.
I'm confused about the rules: they say the captains of the team are guaranteed a fight in the final (should they qualify ). So does this mean we won't get any more Miguel vs Robby fights ?
Am i the only one that notices the difference between miguels and robby stance, robby is arms more further in front and fists close and calm, while miguel is elbows out and fists far apart
Robby tenia todas las de ganar en este combate en comparacion con los otros -No tenia ninguna lesion en el cuerpo (temporada 1) -Estaba del bando correcto esta vez: Miyagi Do (temporada 4) -Estaba perfectamente enfocado y centrado en el combate a diferencia de Miguel en esta ocasion.
Miguel only lost because he's back with Sam, El Serpiente was unstopabble whenever he's with tory or having problems with sam, everytime he loses is because of sam
In this case, not necessarily. Miguel stated that he needed to win so that he can get into Stanford, therefore trying to win for all of the wrong reasons
I honnestly think that the sekai taikai is gonna end in the exact contrary of Season 4 tournament: cobra kai will win boys ,myagi do will win.girls. Boys winner: probably Kwon Girls winner:either Sam or Devon
Other way around it’s gonna be Robby and Tory who win. Then Robby will stand next to Tory on the podium and say “this is not how I wanted us to win together”.
It was the other way around Miyaji do boys win and cobra Kai girls win. Tory is still seen as champion till this day doesn't matter if sliver cheated. Everyone who was at the all valley was there to see Tory win.
@@prettynames-her thats exactly what i Said...cobra kai won girls,Myagi won boys, and i Say it's gonna be thé exact contrary ; Cobra win Boys,Myagi win girls
Short Summary: MJ is an overrated fighter who gets put in plot armor and gets praised for being an A hole. MJ and Sam get all the praise and Robby and Nichols always get the short end of the stick. You MJ fans don’t like to admit it but Robby is the better fighter. Accolades. 2x All Valley Runner Up. He has killed MJ in almost all their fights. He won at the School, Prom and now here in Season 6. He would have won in season 1 aswell if MJ and Hawk didn’t play dirty and injure him. If the mj fans want to cry and say oh well Keene played dirty at the school fight. Well MJ played dirty at the tournament. So excluding the two messed up fights. Robby Leads 2 - 1. Also if you fanboys flip it and say MJ won the school fight then you have to flip it for Robby as well and say won Season 1. Tried of people saying MJ is the best fighter your boy couldn’t even stay healthy at the tournament and then he does what… decides to book it to Mexico. At this point MJ is known for being a choke artist. In S4 Ep 4 he says he wants to flight Robby but then he sprays water on him like a coward. In S6 part 1 in the fight he’s leading 2 - 0 and then what happens he blows a 2 - 0 lead and loses like a loser.
@@Avocado_Rulerindeed which I think is bad plot. Miguel have been training longer than Robby . Maybe the writers should have shown more scene of Robby training besides “ the one day before the fight” in order so that the scene actually make sense .
Robby is a good fighter but Miguel will always be better. Its clear Miguel got desperate and stressed at the end. Sam literally tried to calm him down. Robby wins his first fight against Miguel and Robby fans start glazing him. And its a tournament fight so chill tf out
@@merlingloser2931 Robby was always calm. And tf u mean by "no chance". Miguel clearly got distracted and pressured about not getting into Stanford. And Robby got amped up when he saw Tory arrive
That win for Robby was unnecessary, Miguel is a better fighter, that just shows Robby is that type of guy when his girlfriend or crush shows out to a fight, he starts cooking 😂😂😂😂😂
It’s kind of funny to see when a movie tries to sell pointfighting as full contact🤔🙃… …And after Robbie received a headkick with the force that sent him flying a salto (and almost the same on the other side a bit later), he just stands up, not even having a bruise, and the referee allows the fight go on. This boys are really built different!🫢😂 But the boys learned their choreography, and they stand doubles are doing really excellent job! I have to say, this show is one of the worst and (maybe because )nevertheless most entertaining ones I have ever seen…
Miguels fighting style:
-creating angles
-permanent pressure
-using lot of feints
Robbys:
-Counter striker
-composure
-linear fighting style
Safe to say these two have fought each other the most among anyone in Karate Kid/Cobra Kai.
Sorry but not even close, it’s Johnny and Daniel
It's not even close to Tory vs. Sam
@@jimnfl7134 Keene and Diaz have fought 5 times, once every season except S3, and if you remember, Daniel and Johnny were in a bar debating, and Daniel stated that they fought more than 10 times
@@ReyIsKingGaming Daneil said we have fought 10 times. And i only count twice in Cobra Kai up to this point. YOU NEED A LIFE!!
@@J0hn5935nah that’s only three times. Miguel and Robby have fought at least 4 times
I think what I like the most about this fight is that, while it was super important to both Robby and Miguel, when it’s over Miguel’s disappointed, but not mad at Robby. It could’ve been so easy to blame him, but they’re far beyond anything petty like that.
It helps that both of them are tired of the drama and just want to move on from it.
Yeah. Although Robby was mad at Miguel earlier. That’s because Tory wasn’t there for him.
Although now that she isn’t there. I feel Robby and Miguel will have a strain in their relationship again.
3:13 i like how robby tried to do the same move that Hawk did to him in season 4
Shows his fight IQ
robby needs to stop getting the vegeta treatment and win something huge like the sekai
Facts lol he always gets hoed by plot
That’s why I wanted him to take this dub. I fw miguel so hard prob my fav teen PAUSE but Robby deserves a win. He’s come a long way
i fkng hate how they keep making miguel winning all the time like bruh i really like how they respect him here
@@blacky8987 facts lol Miguel fans acting like he never won a whole torunameny
@@swagman2001 yall haters so mad he won in season 1 but cant take the fact he hasnt won shit since lol
Damn, i love when Robby does that robot Karate shit, as soon as he saw Torry he changed into that robot Robby. His body barley moves and hes just blocking everything, that's that real Miyagi shit
100%. Robby is better when he remains calm and thinks, instead of throwing out random moves by jumping all over the place
@@Daniel123939 totally agree
@@Daniel123939only this fight
@@Daniel123939He did a random flip like right after though. I assume you mean fighting aggressively like in their S5 fight though.
Love when Robby taps into ultra instinct. None of the kids come close to hime when hes like that
Yeah that’s why I think Kwon doesn’t have a chance against him kwon has great offense but he’s not balanced like Robby everything kwon can do Miguel as well so it shouldn’t be that hard for Robby realistically once he realizes kwon isn’t a balanced fighter
Theres no better fighter here. There both even in there own right. What separates Miguel from Robby is Miguel is a fiercer more aggressive fighter and sometimes it overwhelms Robby. While Robby is more calculated and calm. Which is why i love them both 💯
U forgot about kwon this man is gonna be a demon
nah it’s robby
What makes miguel so good and Robby as well is he just knows how to land the right shot at the right time.
@@numberone2676NOT! Lmao
@@numberone2676nah
that could've gone either way. they' both did really well
No the script had the winner already picked
@@TbA500Nbro does not understand the show 💀
@@Bokesyck 🤷🏿♂️
Honestly I’m a personal Robby fan. Watching both of these characters fight throughout the entire series has been amazing. I can’t say one better than the other. Miguel a lot better Offense fighter while Robby better at defense. Also depends on the headspace both characters are in. Miguel was broken at S4 and Robby was distracted in S4. Now seeing there both prime fighting in the final season amazing. Overall I’m glad there brothers and working together.
This is first time Robby beat Miguel. But Great job Robby and you too Miguel.
I’ve seen some say that they nerfed Miguel, but I actually think the exact opposite. Dude suffered a back injury and the doctors were unsure whether he’d walk again. He was paralyzed but learned to walk again and learned to fight again as well, all in less than a year I think. on top of that, every time Robby and Miguel have fought, Miguel has always been the winner. Whether it be the first all valley tournament they attended, the fight at the school or the fight at the apartment complex. I don’t get how people say that Miguel is nerfed. If anything, I feel like Robby is a character who has been nerfed a bit. They always show him as one of the most formidable fighters, able to take out an entire dojo of students, he is also very intelligent, using both Cobra Kai and Miyagi Do before either Eagle Fang or Miyagi Do, yet he always seems to come second. I also think just because Miguel has won against Robby, doesn’t mean it’s guaranteed he will win everytime. No one is perfect and I think Robby and Miguel are pretty much even in terms of the strongest fighters, though I will give the edge to Miguel. But in the end, Robby really needed this and I think he’s overall a better leader and deserves to be captain, even though I know they’ll probably cop out and make Robby lose to the new character Kwon and Miguel will take his place and beat him, but anyway I’m really happy for Robby. He deserved a win.
You have a point
Then you got people saying “S2 Miguel was peak” as if he didn’t struggle hard against Robby as well.
@@kyleb7974exactly. Bro was bloodied and was fighting Robby alone. Robby on the other hand took out two other Cobra Kai students while fighting an enraged Miguel and still was relatively evenly matched.
Hope this happens, Miguel is number 1
Miguel NEEDED that win , Robby WANTED that win , as simple as that
Opposite way around
@@footyflamez7455 nah , miguel needed that win to get into stanford so he was not focused on the fight but rather on the college whereas robby wanted that win cause he always came second so he was really focused on the win .
@@shantiprakashbihani1420actually the whole Stanford thing was in his head. He felt if he won the SekaiTaikai it would get him into Stanford well I mean Sam suggested it but there isn’t evidence of that. In fact Miguel points out they didn’t care about all valley. Basically, Miguel wanted to win because he felt it would get him into Stanford. Robby needed to win because his confidence was shot after losing twice. And there are far more suited extracurricular activities for Miguel to do for his college transcript. Interning at the car dealership directly under Mr LaRusso for example.
I think Robby chose Karate as way of life, he probably end up being a sensei.
Miguel used karate to get through life in difficult times, he will go to college and make loads of money.
That being said, they both are formidable fighters. It's just Robby is a born fighter, while Miguel is more of a survivor.
@@KingExituSI agree with Robby becoming a sensei. I mean, he did teach and train Kenny for some time.
I KNEW Robby's Flaw:'3💯 Robby Can Beat/Best Miguel When He's Calm & Focused NOT When He's Angry.💯🔥
Not true at all, he lost in a street fight refed by johnny in season 4 (not 100% sure if it’s 4) while being in a calm status, Miguel and johnny started cobra kai again, doesn't make sense for Robby to be better than miguel
@@tuggins2737 stop 😭
Mn, o Robby não é melhor que o Miguel, eles tão bem parelhos mas nessa luta fica claro que o Miguel tava colocando pressão nele msm.
This wasn't even the "best Miguel" because he was worried about Stanford. The best Miguel and best Robby was in season 5 where they fought where that was the most fair fight ever.
@@Anomaly_Files18Robby still wasn’t balanced he still had things going on his life he was still on the outs with the Larusso’s Kenny chose Cobra Kai over and he broke up with Tory that’s why he wins here because he has balance Miguel has never known balance at all
even though they act like brothers now, they will always be the biggest rivalry of karate... i still think they are evenly matched which is what makes this so great.
Robby’s a better tournament fighter, Miguel is better outside of tournaments when he’s not going for points
Lol Miguel won the whole freakin tournament in S1. Robby lost to Miguel and Hawk in S1 & S4. The only time besides this that Robby got the better of Miguel was in S4 when he wasn't back to the full use of his skills yet due to his back injury. All of these seasons are in close proximity to one another, just like the movies. Then of course when Miguel showed mercy in S2 just before getting kicked over the railing, it's clear Miguel beat Robby once again getting him in that arm lock.
Mf better tournament fighter miguel beat robby in the tournament 😅 and probably could’ve won back to back if it wasn’t for the hip injury and Robby had his chance but lost to hawk 😅
@@dominickraheem8459venceu acertando no machucado do oponente. Que luta justa.
@@dominickraheem8459 he beat when he had his injury he didn’t attack Robby at his strongest and I’m a Miguel fan but Miguel is better when he’s not focused on points
@@themaverickfiles2020 Both tournaments Robby should've won, he pretty much dominated in season 4 tournament
The way robby was toying with him was sweet
toying?? u crazy and delusional
Bro lock in when he saw his girl 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yet another video where people miss the entire point of everything and scream nerfed, etc etc. Dudes, Miguel was dominating Robby in the beginning--because Miguel was focused and centered and Robby wasn't, until Tory showed up, then Robby became very calm and collected and Miguel started to go off balance as Robby rallied. Then Sam's comment shook him even worse, doubling down on his mentality of the college situation--he lost the Mushin--the no mind, and his mind was no longer on the fight. That is the great thing about this show--it is much truer to live--plenty of times, amazingly skilled people have a bad round, or a bad day or bad match because of other reasons, the mindset is a very important things. I think everyone, even Robby, knows Miguel is the better fighter overall, but they are close enough that if Miguel is off his game and Robby is on his, Robby can definitely take the cake.
I disagree with that. Why would Robby believe Miguel is a better fighter, just because he beat him? Robby lost in s1 because he was injured. Robby lost in s2 because he got angry and went on straight offense which he wasn't trained in how to control. S5 they were both fighting at their best when they both started fighting all out but Miguel wanted it more as he got his rage amp. And no Miguel saying "no I need this" didn't throw him off. This was his motivation to win. Robby's was to be able to win Tory. On top of that Miguel started getting flustered that Robby was countering everything he threw at it him, which makes sense. They are equal. Just because Miguel won more doesn't make it better considering Robby wasn't at his best physically and mentally in the first and second fight respectively. It's just who's balanced on the day.
@@phillwilliams2781 Yeah, no. In season 2, Miguel had him dead to rights, even though technically Robby won because Miguel let up. In season 5, they were both as fine as they could be, lets not forget Miguel has recovered from an injury where he shouldn't even walk again and yet he is going toe to toe with the best.
You can clearly see in this fight the "I need this" is Miguel going on tilt. The quality of his fighting and his facial expressions show how much tilt he is going on right after Robby gets his first point and when Sam says what she does, you can tell Miguel is thinking even Sam is worried he might lose and that totally shakes his confidence. Miguel > to Robby. has been through the whole show at least in pure skill. Sometimes when people have a good reason it pushes them through, other times when you want something too much your head is not in the game, and it throws you off. This is very clearly the latter.
@@JPWagnerIshwa no one said Robby won s2. They went back and forth. Robby clearly lost his advantage the second he gave into his anger and went on offense and disregarded defense. Miguel was able to capitalize on it. And no. Miguel wasn't better in s1 and 3. S4 Robby could have been argued better than Miguel and Miguel won s5 fairly. And no im pure skill Miguel isn't better than Robby. Miguel's advantage over Robby is is will and mindset. Miguel has been in a better mindset than Robby in the times he's beaten him. You can say he was "tilted" because of what Sam said if you, but that doesn't mean he was unbalanced. Miguel said he needed it because he wanted it. And the show continuously shows us once someone is unbalanced, their fighting ability isn't as good and Miguel was putting in work regardless of losing, he was still able to press Robby uptil Robby was able to flip him to secure the win. End of the day it's been said. A focused robby would be near unbeatable and we've never seen him fully balanced until now
@@phillwilliams2781 I love this debate. My prediction is that Miguel will perform better than Robby in the Sekai Tekai because Robby is not going to be as balanced because of Tory leaving. What do you think?
@@haqr5010 it's a reasonable argument. But if the writers were just gonna make Miguel dominate and let Robby be unfocused that'd be lazy. Tory will come around soon enough. I think Robby will be balanced enough to win. At least I hope
KwOn iS bEtTeR tHaN rObBy AnD mIgUeL:
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kid that kick fas fkng lame.... like bruh you can see the kick was fake they even cut it fast
@@blacky8987 Kwon's is fake aswell. No way he can move in slow motion in real life 👀
@@ahmadkhalifeh1779 Doubt it. He will lose in a stupid way.
Its always like this.
I think what's interesting is that Miguel, who started out at Cobra Kai,is better fighter then Robbie when he's calm, a trait generally associated with miyagi do, while the opposite is true for robby, what I'm trying to say if they fight and they're both angry, Robby always wins, while if they are both calm and collected, Miguel whens every time
If they’re both angry, Miguel wins as shown by season 2, if they’re both calm Miguel wins as shown by season 5
Robby wins if he’s calm and Miguel is not
@@agnikaineverdies7646 what part of Miguel being paralyzed makes u think he won lol, the school fight was probably they angriest either of them have ever been
@@traviscrumbey7969 Literally the part where he had Robby on the floor in an armlock ready to break it, that's exactly the moment Miguel won that fight.
@@traviscrumbey7969 easy Robby won the fight but Miguel was the better fighter
Wdyn 😂 ur saying the opposite so the fight in their house was calm the fight at school was calm?😂
I Predicted Robby's Future.😮💯
The story will go back to Miguel. Which means Miguel will win the Sekai Takai
@@coltongoldHe can’t.
Only the captains can enter the finals of the Sekai Tekai. So Miguel is not going to the finals. He will take them to the finals where Robby can finish them off.
Being an ultimate assist maker.
But he can’t win now.
The only way Miguel will win is if Robby gets badly injured and they have to swap places, and Miguel becomes the new captain. Which won’t happen, because they won’t rip this opportunity away from Robby this quickly.
@@georgie545 Not to mention Robby has already been injured in a tournament the writers probs won’t let that happen again.
@@georgie545😂😂 bro are you the writers no so don’t say Robby gonna win. He’s the worst fighter why would the worst fighter win the whole tournament when he can’t even win a school tournament 😂😂 make 0 sense. Who cares if he hasn’t won this is supposed to be real fights not just give him a trophy because he never won 😂😭 man you are really annoying and not that intelligent
I like how they are really highlighting the superiority of Miyagi-Do style this season. In this fight and in the Johnny/Barnes fight. Once Robbie starts focussing on defense instead of forcing the action he takes over this fight.
One of my biggest problems with Cobra Kai is what they’ve done with Miguel. The first two seasons were heavily focused on him and I feel like he’s been sidelined ever since. Now that Robby won the fight it looks like he’s going to have a lesser role again.
its true. robby got way more spotlight in s3-5, like bro. miguel was the main character in the beginning what happened
@@notsmiffyHe has become like Mike in stranger things, he is still there but he does almost nothing
@@simoneorioliThat’s such an accurate comparison. Miguel is legit just there because fans love him. I don’t really feel like he has much going on. Hopefully he gets his moment in Part 2/3.
Season 3 he had a big role. He was recovering from an injury that Season.
Season 4 Johnny becomes his Dad.
Season 5 Miguel had a Mexico arc.
Season 6 is about him moving on to the next life. College.
He’s just sharing the spotlight. They haven’t forgot about him. They don’t wanna overdo Miguel. His story is just as big as any other now.
This fight was a wonderful showcase of both. Could have gone either way
crazy how this is robby's first and only win on miguel.
miguel won s1 tournament, s2 real fight, s5 real fight
How curious that they say that now Robby is offensive and Miguel defensive
When Robby started to come back he showed that he is the best in defense
Robby was literally beating Miguel because he started using his fundamentals aka defense
Honestly Miguel when he is focus he can beat anyone and the same with Robby, but you can tell when both of them aren’t on point they both attend to fall off the tracks, I honestly feel like if these two could fight with nothing on there minds or nothing holding them back, it could go absolutely either way. So those of you that say Miguel or Robby is better. It’s more of who is more focus and i honestly haven’t seen these two fight with out them both going through something. I think the closest we got to that was s5 but then again that was a street fight (Yes I am a Miguel fan but Robby is good too)
sam saying no matter what happens everything will be okay was really random and served absolutely no purpose.
She was basically saying things will work out regardless of if he wins or loses
@@Daniel123939 yeah but that in no way helps a guy in a fight lmao it was just so corny and cheesy man
I agree, it only made Miguel more desperate.
However, it *did* serve a purpose. Sam was trying to inspire Miguel, in the same way he inspired her when she was fighting Devon.
"Sam. You're the better fighter. Everyone knows it. The ref might not be doing you any favors, but you've got us in your corner."
Sam figured returning the gesture would inspire him, because it worked for her in her fight. But unfortunately, it ended up backfiring.
She's a teenager that made a naive attempt at encouraging her boyfriend. That's all.
it's almost like they wanted we hates her on purpose
@@retrox64gamesjust say you’ve never been in a tournament match bro
Reassurance when ur on the verge of losing is something anybody will give the fighter to make sure it doesn’t get to his head, not saying it always works but it serves a purpose
At the end miguel vs kwon in the finals
Robby fights in the final
Maybe at that time Robby got potential to be in final, but his mental is not stable cause Tory, and in the end, Miguel vs Kwon
@@Anonymous31-zk1qc Because Robby and Sam are captains they will both fight in the final
Wrong it's captain vs captain Robby vs Kwon is the final
@@ufcfan6828correct
I’m seeing this in the comment section. Why are some of y’all saying that Robby only wins this fight as a consolation and that Miguel will end up fighting Kwon in the finals? That doesn’t make sense
I agree. Their saying that Robby only won because of sympathy of the writers. This being the fifth time they fought it would've been very predictile if Miguel won this fight aswell since he won every other one. The rumoured theory is that Robby will be injured while fighting and Miguel will replace him as captain. I believe this theory because it started out with miguel and it will end with miguel. Even if Robby does end up not getting injured and will fight kwon I believe kwon will win versus robby and Miguel will fight Kwon elsewhere and will win to end the show.
@@keyonterogers if that were to be the case then what would be the point of Robby earning captain just for Miguel to end it? Like I said, it wouldn’t be right
I think Robby should win the tournament. Miguel won his tournament but Robby needs a win for once but not if is he is doing it for the sake of being number one. He needs to win for himself
As a Miguel fan I'm glad that robby won this fight and became the captain of his team because he was so overshadowed by Miguel and Hawk and didn't get many moments to chine as a "champion"
The writers needed to develop Robby's character and give him a big role to play
And don't worry because maybe Robby will get injured in the part 2 of S6 so Miguel somehow will replace him and win the fucking sekai takai
How the hell you gonna say “I’m glad Robby won the fight”, then flip the script and say, I hope he gets injured and Miguel takes over for the win?”😂
Robby has been outshining everyone for two season the writers have given Robby plenty of chances to shine it doesn't matter if he won. Robby will lose to Kwon in the first tournament and Miyagi Do will realize how good Cobra Kai is and have to change some things. IMO it's no way after watching the training and fight choreography this season can you make me believe any Miyagi Do kids can beat Cobra Kia. The fighter was better season 2 and 3 now the kids look like amateurs.
In my opinion, they're both good. They're match with each other. Some days are in favor of Robby, some are in favor with Miguel. Just like life. You don't always win. But you always improve. Robby wanted to win because he's always second. Miguel Needs to win for STANDFORD. For me, Robby's cause is more of a motivation type. That's why he won. Miguel is a little out of focus. Because he's pressured on college. We all know his situation, they lack of money. Miguel's desperate, while Robby is focused. But atleast Miguel won on a match with no points, and no holds barred, no referees, and I think that's a better win.
I mean, seems unfair to not even give Demetri a shot 😂
Did u forget that demetri qualified via an external competition instead of being part of fhe MAIN 4 picks that didn’t need extra justifying
I'm confused about the rules: they say the captains of the team are guaranteed a fight in the final (should they qualify ). So does this mean we won't get any more Miguel vs Robby fights ?
Its almost full circle, Robby beat Miguel and Hawk beat Robby, now we just need to see Miguel beat Hawk fair and square
Bro Miguel beats everybody,
@@dvadi8153he already beat hawk
He already beat Hawk in season 2 eventhough it wasn't a tournament.
kwon and miguel gone be the final fight fasho
Wrong he's not captain it's captain vs captain it's Robby vs Kwon
I wanna see the Miyagi-Do captains vs the cobra kai champions (Robby and Sam vs Kwon and Tory)
@@ufcfan6828photo leak miguel with captain headband miguel win the tournament😂😂
@@RishabhJha-w6bWith a cobra Kai Gi on which is probably a dream sequence stop d eating
Robby Keene Miguel Diaz vs RACHEL fighting
Am i the only one that notices the difference between miguels and robby stance, robby is arms more further in front and fists close and calm, while miguel is elbows out and fists far apart
If you watch closely, see that Miguel's leg got caught on Robby's shoulder. Vice versa in their All Valley match
Robby tenia todas las de ganar en este combate en comparacion con los otros
-No tenia ninguna lesion en el cuerpo (temporada 1)
-Estaba del bando correcto esta vez: Miyagi Do (temporada 4)
-Estaba perfectamente enfocado y centrado en el combate a diferencia de Miguel en esta ocasion.
We all know who ever won this fight will not win the tournament. Robby winning captain and winning the tournament seem slim now.
Just imagine how this would go if Miguel would jave kicked robby off the railing in seson 5
Miguel wins in street fight when it comes to points robby wins😂
Shut up Robby is the goat
@@Goatleonaldo did u ever seen robby beat miguel in a street fight where they are no rules? Neverr
@@ROUGESERAPHINActually he did, at the prom fight in season 4
@@Goatleonaldodude he didn’t even say anything offensive why you getting mad for?
@@darksunrise-no.dthat lil fight didn’t hurt miguel he just went in the pool
Jason Lee Scott vs Tommy Oliver
Kwon is waiting.
Miguel and Robby will fight Kwon Like Lethal Weapon 4.
2024.
Miguel only lost because he's back with Sam, El Serpiente was unstopabble whenever he's with tory or having problems with sam, everytime he loses is because of sam
In this case, not necessarily. Miguel stated that he needed to win so that he can get into Stanford, therefore trying to win for all of the wrong reasons
It was his own issues. Not Sam’s.
Stop making excuses
Kwon will beat both of them
Yeah,i think that it's gonna end as the exact contrary of Season 4 tournaient,cobra kai will win boys,Myagi do will win girls
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there both even
Fight
Who's MJ?
I honnestly think that the sekai taikai is gonna end in the exact contrary of Season 4 tournament: cobra kai will win boys ,myagi do will win.girls.
Boys winner: probably Kwon
Girls winner:either Sam or Devon
Naahhh, vai ser o Miguel, pois, tem uma foto vazada, e a Tory merece ganhar essa
Other way around it’s gonna be Robby and Tory who win. Then Robby will stand next to Tory on the podium and say “this is not how I wanted us to win together”.
@@samueli7759 thats a possibility
It was the other way around Miyaji do boys win and cobra Kai girls win. Tory is still seen as champion till this day doesn't matter if sliver cheated. Everyone who was at the all valley was there to see Tory win.
@@prettynames-her thats exactly what i Said...cobra kai won girls,Myagi won boys, and i Say it's gonna be thé exact contrary ; Cobra win Boys,Myagi win girls
Man why that song isn't on the soundtrack 😮😮
I hope this win was Robby's consolation prize and that Miguel wins the tournament somehow
Miguel es mejor que Robin.
People are going on with my life I know you’re back off
Short Summary: MJ is an overrated fighter who gets put in plot armor and gets praised for being an A hole.
MJ and Sam get all the praise and Robby and Nichols always get the short end of the stick.
You MJ fans don’t like to admit it but Robby is the better fighter. Accolades. 2x All Valley Runner Up. He has killed MJ in almost all their fights. He won at the School, Prom and now here in Season 6. He would have won in season 1 aswell if MJ and Hawk didn’t play dirty and injure him. If the mj fans want to cry and say oh well Keene played dirty at the school fight. Well MJ played dirty at the tournament. So excluding the two messed up fights. Robby Leads 2 - 1. Also if you fanboys flip it and say MJ won the school fight then you have to flip it for Robby as well and say won Season 1. Tried of people saying MJ is the best fighter your boy couldn’t even stay healthy at the tournament and then he does what… decides to book it to Mexico. At this point MJ is known for being a choke artist. In S4 Ep 4 he says he wants to flight Robby but then he sprays water on him like a coward. In S6 part 1 in the fight he’s leading 2 - 0 and then what happens he blows a 2 - 0 lead and loses like a loser.
Miguel > Robby
Cope more.
who tf is mj
miguel should’ve won
Nope. Miguel was getting more desperate as the fight commenced which didn’t improve his fighting ability.
This proof Robby is better than Miguel
@@Avocado_Ruler nope . Get dic out your mouth
@@Avocado_Rulerindeed which I think is bad plot. Miguel have been training longer than Robby . Maybe the writers should have shown more scene of Robby training besides “ the one day before the fight” in order so that the scene actually make sense .
@@Avocado_Ruler Nah
No lol Miguel wasint focused Robby starting but diaz still beter wait till newer eps of season 6 miguel
Miguel was focused shut up bro
Listen Miguel fanboy Miguel was focused the entire time like he even said to Sam that “I need this” which means he wanted to win
@@GoatleonaldoFr
Wow Robby fanboys💀
Wait till newer episodes come out miguel will come on top
Plot armour. Miguel should have won.
Plot armour doesn’t count for a character who has just as much skill and won like it was nothing
No. Plot armor is NEVER losing.
If Miguel doesn't win this tournament ima do some crazy shit
I think Kwon will fight robby in the semi final's and will hurt him really bad and it then forces miguel to fight as the captain in the finals
Robby is a good fighter but Miguel will always be better. Its clear Miguel got desperate and stressed at the end. Sam literally tried to calm him down. Robby wins his first fight against Miguel and Robby fans start glazing him. And its a tournament fight so chill tf out
Robby is stronger after He was calm and Focused Miguel stood nö Chance 😂
@@merlingloser2931 Robby was always calm. And tf u mean by "no chance". Miguel clearly got distracted and pressured about not getting into Stanford. And Robby got amped up when he saw Tory arrive
Both were focused and still Robby kicked Miguels ass
@@imtiyazyasir23 Ok lil bro say what u wanna say
@@GreenBush123I see you everywhere glazing Miguel lil bro 😂
That win for Robby was unnecessary, Miguel is a better fighter, that just shows Robby is that type of guy when his girlfriend or crush shows out to a fight, he starts cooking 😂😂😂😂😂
Who care. Miguel wins more enough.
@@lukester939he hasn’t won anything meaningful since season 1
I don't know why people like Robby so much. Horrible acting.
They like a robby because is are their opinions not yours
@@blackops2kills60 Don't get snappy about my opinion then, lol
It’s kind of funny to see when a movie tries to sell pointfighting as full contact🤔🙃… …And after Robbie received a headkick with the force that sent him flying a salto (and almost the same on the other side a bit later), he just stands up, not even having a bruise, and the referee allows the fight go on. This boys are really built different!🫢😂 But the boys learned their choreography, and they stand doubles are doing really excellent job! I have to say, this show is one of the worst and (maybe because )nevertheless most entertaining ones I have ever seen…
Robby only won because tory walked In 0:39
he fought for the thicc