@@MrGmooney And a type of EPO that takes 7--14 days depending on person/type of EPO to clear the system before the individuals event takes place. they found barely traces of this substance in him.
Chris, you were known as an energetic, supportive, and jolly guy in the peloton, and now you give us the only possible positive verdict on this era. I am so glad that you are around, and making videos. Oh, and that 2013 Vuelta was incredible. Many thanks!
Chris, I’m a lifelong cycling fan and TDF fan, having grown up in France. Ive had the pleasure of being working with NBC on the Tour for 9 Tours (except last year and this year), chatted with you a couple of time. I still think of this stage 17 as one of the greatest stage in my lifetime, epic regardless of anything else.
How incredible is it to be able to sit & listen to these stories from some who was there, someone who lived this, someone who was right in the middle of it. Epic. I feel I have a mate who's an ex pro rider, I've gone to his house & he's sharing his experiences. Thanks Chris.
I remember following this stage all morning here in the US online. At the time I couldn't believe what was going on, the favorites just couldn't catch Landis. I admit I got caught up in the excitement and didn't think at all about the implications of Landis riding like he was. When the positive test came back a few days later, I second guessed my understanding of cycling. As time went on, I started to realize just how pervasive doping was in cycling at that time especially as the flood of Operacion Puerto revelations kept building throughout 2006. I was definitely naive at the time. These days, we know that essentially the entire peloton was juiced back then. I now feel the judgments levied against Armstrong and Landis were just BUT that many other riders that deserve a similar judgement have not been made to face the music. The whole affair makes me distrust the various organizing bodies and anti-doping organizations and feel that tremendous hypocrisy and omerta about the long history of doping in cycling remains to this day. Riis, Pantani and Ullrich are all still "official" winners of the Tour. No one influential in cycling has publicly questioned the absurd Banesto / Big Mig era of the mid-90s. No one mentions that Merckx failed at least three doping controls. No one has confirmed who "won" the Tours Lance won (because all of the main competitors were on EPO). The whole situation is insane.
Far from the entire peloton was juiced back then. Infamously Christophe Moreau finished 4th in the 2000 tour while being clean and there are way more examples.
@@drunkensailor112 Infamously clean? Why? Because he got caught a couple years earlier, so he wasn't going to do it again? He was connected to Festina and Puerto... I don't give any rider the benefit of the doubt with that history. Better tests = new cheats.
@@RAD6150 Moreau wasn't connected at all to Puerto and it has been confirmed by several sources that you can even read in the documentation against Armstrong that Moreau rode cleanly in 2000 which was the reason why vaughters went to that team for instance
Thanks Chris for your amazing recollection of this epic stage...I remember watching on TV and thinking this is the greatest sporting event/stage I have EVER witnessed!
Check this out.... Hidden UA-cam video with Mr. Horner explaining everything that's going to happen today 👍 2006 stage 10 ua-cam.com/video/2NBQng1xjcM/v-deo.html
Chris, this is an amazing story! Thank you. I was about to complete in my 2nd commonwealth games in 2006 and at our tune up international the week before, our team captain spoke of Floyd’s performance in his speech to the team the night before at dinner (as rowers, we all love cycling). By the commonwealths the next week, Floyd had tested positive and I will never forget the mixture of humour that my captain’s speech had gone wrong, sorrow and hope for endurance sport and respect for Floyd’s performance when we knew the sport was far from clean. Thank you for taking the time to tell it!!
I haven't been that entertained listening to a cycling insight for long times , thanks ! you were already exactly as well-spoken as today in these interviews
It strikes me, that I just subbed now, been following this channel for years. This is one of the best inside peleton stories I've ever witnessed, incl. 2nd hand reports from the peletons in the golden years in the 1970s. This is plus gold standard. Haven't seen the stage since then, i.e. nearly 17 years from now, but remember every meter now as a TV watcher. But this is on a completely different level. Goose bumps.
I remember that stage, it was epic (later tainted by what happened), I love the way Chris Horner tells it from the inside of the race and his job, epic also !
Amazing,really like the way you tell the race story,i remember thinking,at the time, that history was being made. Had the pleasure to see you race in Vancouver BC ,bitter sweet for you at the time ,i'm sure,but super cool for the fans.Thanks for coming out
Hi Chris. Just fished listening to this for the second time. This time with my wife. An amazing story because it is told by someone there. I am glad to get your outlook on Lance and others. Your reasoning is undeniable. Thank you, John. Oklahoma USA
Thanks so much Chris for sharing that day. From a tough day to one that might not have been as painful, my wife and I watched your Tour de Georgia podium celebration in Atlanta. We were fans from that day on and followed you over the years. Thanks for all of the gutsy rides and winning one for the "old" guys in Spain. Please keep them coming.
What a great recap and perspective. I was watching that stage and told my wife "they'll be talking about this stage and Floyd's performance for 50 years."
Thanks for sharing your race stories! Reminds me of how I would re-live my race stories with teammates in college and amateur racing. :) So great! I was so stoked when you faught for the win, and won, at the Giro…inspiring! Thanks Chris!
Wow, great story Chris! I've been a big fan of yours since the RadioShack days and always loved the way your rode and also your interviews. So much respect for what you did in cycling during your the latter years, especially the 2013 Vuelta, of course. I'm so glad I found your channel today and I just subscribed. Keep up the great work, especially story time, I really enjoyed it.
I looked at OLN’s video coverage on UA-cam when I saw you posted this, and in the last 24 hours it has jumped over 1,000 views. That said in watching the finale you have to believe something was up as Landis arrives at the finish line looking way too fresh. It was epic to watch!
15:30 You could also have had an excellent career as a diplomat given how you describe the state of the peloton at this point in time 😄. Really appreciate your story!
Chris, I just listened to your "Local Legends" podcast interview, which made me want to jump over here to check out the Butterfly Effect. After watching the Vuelta video and now this, I am hooked. I love the logistic aspects of a pro cycling team. It's not something that most of us weekend warriors are that dialed into. I mean, we understand that each team has various types of riders that will perform well in various types of stages, and that each day the strategy will adjust based on how well various riders are performing, but I love the fact that when your "job" was done, you pulled over and hopped off the bike to take in a snickers and a coke. It's like you rolled up to the AM/PM on PCH in Encinitas and popped inside for some snacks. We can ALL relate to that! Thanks for breaking it down for us!
So glad to see you cover this stage. This is literally my favorite stage of any Tour stage I’ve ever seen. I will never forget this day, I was at work listening to the race and when they said Floyd broke away and was charging up the mountain, I knew something special was happening. I immediately left work without explanation and drove home as fast as possible to get to the TV. I stood in my living room cheering for Floyd and watching the most incredible ride I have ever seen. Floyd dumping water on himself the entire ride, putting time into the pack and descending like a demon on his way to the line. Most amazing performance I have ever seen. Years later after Floyd’s fall from grace, he was riding in the Tour of Missouri on the Ouch team, I was there yelling for Floyd. To this day one of my favorite riders I ever watched along with Robbie McEwen and Tyler Hamilton.
Incredible storytelling! Thanks, Chris! That was a great refresher. I had missed the live airing that morning and never really looked at the full stage after. Just the recaps and then the fallout.
Wow, Just caught this. This is a Fantastic Story Chris, Thanks for sharing your take on it. Definitely half an hour well spent. I think that you make an important point about Lance/Floyd etc and the Stage.
@@ChrisHornerCycling I'm really looking forward to have you as guest speaker on our live/webinar mate! Will love to hear your stories! :-) Looks like it's going to work! The marketing ladies are finishing of the details and should reach out to set a date! :-)
Free Ranger got it right. I feel like I'm sitting around after a ride, listening to a friend explain his latest Grand Fondo ride. Totally relatable and so much fun. Thanks Chris. Love what you're doing. I actually watch your daily analysis BEFORE the stage. I know it spoils the finish BUT on these flatter stages I love knowing what to look for, whose making the right decisions, whose making the wrong one. I love it.
Love the stories, keep them coming. I remember watching that epic stage. BTW, it's 'let the cat out of the bag', not 'mouse'. Cracked me up with that one.
Watching this for the dozenth or so time, and it's just hit me how fun yet insightful your Lotto team would have been - yourself and Robbie on the media side of it, Mario and Christophe now in the team cars, and Cadel doing testing.
Coach, Another great video. When I saw the 29 minute length, I didn't think I could go the distance, but, man, it flew by. Lots of great detail. I never put this stage into perspective as far as historical impact on the sport, but yes, you are right about that in your thoughts in the last few minutes. Before this, I would never even consider the idea of "thanking" these guys in a way, but I would surely thank the cycling gods for what transpired here, and the fallout that came from it. Those of us who believe in the sport and the ideal of clean racing need to understand that it has to take a stage like this and all the intricate backstories involved to create the domino effect that eventually changed the landscape of cycling, and for that all of us who believe in the ideal of clean cycling can't help BUT be thankful. The end result is worth it. If not for something so massively distasteful, real change cannot happen. Also, great stuff on Cadel and what it was like working for him and just what surviving that day was like. Much respect. Always love your videos. More stories Captain!!!
Your comment is exactly how I wanted it to be taken and also I believe like you it took these specific and legendary people in cycling at that time to make the change happen. Anything less and it would have been another headline in the papers and soon gone the next week. 👊thanks for the reply.
Man, I was his teammate and could not tell the difference between his I’m almost dropped and going out the back from his I’m going to attack and win the race face. He always looked bad😂😜👍
Thanks Chris. Another great story. Well done. I don´t watch nearly as much cycling as I used to - I did watch that day live. Your perspective on it is singular and thought provoking. As a rider that surfed those turbulent times, I always knew you were a clever bloke and respected your body of work as a rider. Now you are back putting color and perspective on the sport. Even on an epic day that was essentially forgotten. In a way you and your side-kick CVV on NBC have rekindled somewhat my interest in the pro side of the sport, and I thank you for that, as those are days I spend with my son, who is a soccer player, but also one of those sports crazy kids that´s like a multi-sport encyclopedia, and, because I still ride mountain and road, cycling is one of his sports. Thanks for your work. Keep it going!
What an awesome story Chris, thanks for sharing it and your passion for cycling. It’s so nice to get this inside the race story to help us get an idea of what the race is like. Now hopefully I can find the 2006 TDF to watch the whole race.
Chris, thank you for the epic race story. Can’t imagine the suffering. I really like the detail and the respect you show for fellow racers in that era. What a time you raced in. Got me into racing. Always love the butterfly effect brother.. keep them coming, peace be with you
Always one of my favorites Chris all the way back to your American years. I'll never forget this epic Landis ride. Thanks for bringing it along with the Corner, Butterfly effect, & now Storytime. Hope we'll get more of these. Love the channel. Keep posting please Brother. You rock!
Hey Chris, fellow American 🇺🇸 here (expat living in Italy 🇮🇹now), new 2 your channel and new sub here!!!! In 2017 I rekindled my love affair with cycling and is what has helped keep me sober (since 2010) while still serving in our USAF as a reservist/contractor here. Cycling from these years and during the 90s was HUGELY INFLUENTIAL for the sport both positively and negatively. THANKS FOR YOUR CONTENT💪🇮🇹🇺🇸👍
If you think CH is entertaining here, you should to get the privilege of spending hours with him traveling during a stage race. Better than you can imagine.
@@laurarodriguezdiaz6489 LOL Chris is VERY entertaining. The only guy that I ever came across that was close to being as much fun is Geoff Brown, mechanic for all kinds of World Tour teams.
@@laurarodriguezdiaz6489 Over the years I worked with Jittery Joes, Mountain Khakis/Smart Stop, Astellas, Lupus, Happy Tooth, and Hangar 15. Chris was with Lupus when I was with them. He was my co-pilot and I had a great time.
Hooooolly crap Chris!!! what a story, this channel is unique because of you and the story teller that you are with so many details, stuff that only inside the peloton anybody would know I never though I could find in youtube. Thank you for sharing I've subscribed and will let my friends know here, well... those that speak english at leat! :D Blessings.
I remember watching the stage without any doubt there were peds at play and thinking “Floyd No, that’s too much”. Lance would only do just enough and often yield the stage victory but maintain his time gaps.
Love your commentary and perspective on this stage. It was definitely needed for the sport. Watching it at the time, it was an amazing spectacle and afterwards it did have the effect of forcing the sport to get more serious about trying to clean itself up. The tactics and grit on that stage were incredible despite the taint.
First time finding the channel. You are a great story teller, and the perspective you share of being a supporting rider is very interesting and entertaining. I hope you'll share more.
Man, that series is amazing. I wish you carry on telling stories about epic stages you raced in the past. You could even make a full series about the Vuelta 2013
That was incredible and always love hearing Chris’s takes. I need to find those post stage interviews he mentioned. I probably saw them live at the time, it would be cool to go back and check that out.
Epic storytelling of an epic day. I was there, with two friends, just a few KMs up the Col de la Colombière with a huge banner that said “Allez Dude”. I remember nearly losing it when I saw Floyd in a small group at the front…and there were what felt like minutes back to the next following group. My buddies and I cycled back down to Le Grand-Bornand, where we found a bar with 30+ stinking sweaty cyclists around a massive TV, crazy hot day, and watched Floyd climb the last climb alone doing the unbelievable. I’ve never been so excited during a single stage in my life. Thanks for the story and the amazing insights, too! Keep up the great work!
I think "Floyd tested positive" is a bit of an understatement, I imagine he broke the test. He probably went to his doctor the night before and said: "give me everything you got"
No amount of drugs can turn a mule into a race horse. Everyone on team csc and t mobile were doped to the gills and still got destroyed by Floyd who was simply better and just wanted it more .
@@abone2pickLandis was off the scales in the high doses of testosterone he had taken the night before. +A bag of red blood cells. It was more than enough to turn someone average into a champion in 24 hours.
Drugs at best give you a 5% advantage but in a game of fractions of a percent that's alot. Besides all the top 50 are juicing, thats why they never found anyone clean to give Lance's wins to. Just a charade, nothing more.
Least Chris has the ass to talk informatively about this era openly and sensibly and that's brilliant if I may say. I was always with all the riders pov at that time. All of them made that era and it was super entertaining and for that I'm truly thankful for their sacrifices! I'll always appreciate Chris and his brilliant blow-by-blow stories.
Thanks for the great story, Chris. I could listen to your stories all day. I remember sitting on the grass before the El Cajon Grand Prix with one of my teammates, Jason Charlibois, when you and a few of your Mercury teammates sat down with us and just started telling stories. Thanks for that day and for your stories.
Wonderful Chris - let’s hope the UCI and TDF can develop and show humility for those riders who became scapegoats for the environment every rider found themselves at that time
Chris, I’ve always loved your enthusiasm and honesty. You are a good and honest soul. This coming weekend I have a tough climbing event and listening/watching your vlogs is like fuel to my soul, a “doping” to my being. Love you brother Chris...
One of my sons was really into cycling and Lance and I got hooked and watched the TdF on NBC on Sunday afternoons. I do remember Floyd's loss of the lead and then the next stage. Wow, It was amazing, well I got hooked on the sport and very glad that you Chris are helping me understand it so much better. Merry Christmas. Jim
Late to reply. Huge fan of Chris from his riding to his commentary and spirit. Great guy. I also enjoy his time in Bend. I was born there in the 50s and raised through my 30s. It’s kind of an overrun recreational area now unsurprisingly. Anyway I think it was Chris who actually physically carried a rider up Cascade Lakes hwy in race out side of Bend. That shows to me how great a person he was.
Your channel is the gold standard for ex-pro peloton content: insightful, varied and dynamic. Chapeau!
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Landis was as high as a kite on testosterone
@@MrGmooney And a type of EPO that takes 7--14 days depending on person/type of EPO to clear the system before the individuals event takes place. they found barely traces of this substance in him.
Chris, you were known as an energetic, supportive, and jolly guy in the peloton, and now you give us the only possible positive verdict on this era. I am so glad that you are around, and making videos. Oh, and that 2013 Vuelta was incredible. Many thanks!
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Chris, I’m a lifelong cycling fan and TDF fan, having grown up in France. Ive had the pleasure of being working with NBC on the Tour for 9 Tours (except last year and this year), chatted with you a couple of time.
I still think of this stage 17 as one of the greatest stage in my lifetime, epic regardless of anything else.
Oh no, "The Mouse is out of the Bag" HAHAHAHA--Another reason why I love CH's Story Time. Keep 'em coming.
How incredible is it to be able to sit & listen to these stories from some who was there, someone who lived this, someone who was right in the middle of it. Epic. I feel I have a mate who's an ex pro rider, I've gone to his house & he's sharing his experiences. Thanks Chris.
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I have interviewed Chris and he is really like that. Super nice guy that shares such amazing insight and his success speaks for itself.
@@briansmallwood4095 absolutely!
You have a photographic memory of rides you've done. Amazing.
Rob, It has amazed me for years how athletes remember details from specific situations they have been in. I love hearing those!
@@tmelendezmia except for the concussion. That kinda scared me at the time.
I think you tend to remember those moments in life that were supremely difficult whether mentally or physically.
I remember following this stage all morning here in the US online. At the time I couldn't believe what was going on, the favorites just couldn't catch Landis. I admit I got caught up in the excitement and didn't think at all about the implications of Landis riding like he was. When the positive test came back a few days later, I second guessed my understanding of cycling. As time went on, I started to realize just how pervasive doping was in cycling at that time especially as the flood of Operacion Puerto revelations kept building throughout 2006. I was definitely naive at the time. These days, we know that essentially the entire peloton was juiced back then. I now feel the judgments levied against Armstrong and Landis were just BUT that many other riders that deserve a similar judgement have not been made to face the music. The whole affair makes me distrust the various organizing bodies and anti-doping organizations and feel that tremendous hypocrisy and omerta about the long history of doping in cycling remains to this day. Riis, Pantani and Ullrich are all still "official" winners of the Tour. No one influential in cycling has publicly questioned the absurd Banesto / Big Mig era of the mid-90s. No one mentions that Merckx failed at least three doping controls. No one has confirmed who "won" the Tours Lance won (because all of the main competitors were on EPO). The whole situation is insane.
Nicely written
It's not insane. It's hipocritical.
That day though, at the moment, what a fucking ride!
Far from the entire peloton was juiced back then. Infamously Christophe Moreau finished 4th in the 2000 tour while being clean and there are way more examples.
@@drunkensailor112 Infamously clean? Why? Because he got caught a couple years earlier, so he wasn't going to do it again? He was connected to Festina and Puerto... I don't give any rider the benefit of the doubt with that history. Better tests = new cheats.
@@RAD6150 Moreau wasn't connected at all to Puerto and it has been confirmed by several sources that you can even read in the documentation against Armstrong that Moreau rode cleanly in 2000 which was the reason why vaughters went to that team for instance
Cadel giving you props like that will stay with you forever.
Chris, your first hand accounts are phenomenal. Thank you so much for sharing them with us!
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Watched this stage live and you knew it was special - which it remains albeit different reasons
Thank you for sharing the inside stories so eloquently
I feel guilty that I’m getting such great content for free off UA-cam. This could be a 30 for 30 special on espn. Great video Chris!
That is for sure. I just recently discovered Chris Horner’s online content and it is enthralling.
Thank you Chris!
YT Premium is nice.. No adverts ;)
Thanks Chris for your amazing recollection of this epic stage...I remember watching on TV and thinking this is the greatest sporting event/stage I have EVER witnessed!
I remember watching this epic stage. Thanks for the great insight Chris.
Me too..and I knew his performance was more artificially enhanced than the rest of the peleton...Vive le tour
God I love Chris’ stories.
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I agree, Chris is a very natural storyteller who also was a very good cyclist.
Check this out.... Hidden UA-cam video with Mr. Horner explaining everything that's going to happen today 👍 2006 stage 10
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You are so right about this being a turning point and props for standing by your friends.
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Great story & Cadel really seems like a good guy!
Cheers Chris
Chris, good work, you should make these available on podcasts!
More videos like this please Chris! Helps me pass the time until the snow melts and I can ride again!
I’ve been following bike racing since 2003 and this was the most epic stage of all time. We’ll never see anything else like it.
Yes I watched it too with my jaw on the floor. I swear he laid rubber for the first few hundred metres.
What about Froom on Giro 2018 stage 19?
Chiappucci in 1992 at sestrieres was pretty insane, too.
Thank you for immersive storytelling, I feel like I'm at the race chasing too :):):)
Good thing I got off work early so I could listen to story time with Chris! Fantastic job covering that stage thanks for sharing!
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This has to be one of the greatest stories, greatest insight ever told in cycling. Amazing Chris, absolutely riveting.
Chris, I could listen to these stories all day long! Great job!
Chris, this is an amazing story! Thank you. I was about to complete in my 2nd commonwealth games in 2006 and at our tune up international the week before, our team captain spoke of Floyd’s performance in his speech to the team the night before at dinner (as rowers, we all love cycling). By the commonwealths the next week, Floyd had tested positive and I will never forget the mixture of humour that my captain’s speech had gone wrong, sorrow and hope for endurance sport and respect for Floyd’s performance when we knew the sport was far from clean. Thank you for taking the time to tell it!!
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Chris, I remember this stage! It was incredible. I will never forget this day.
A privilege to hear you share your experience; thank you for taking the time to put this out.
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I haven't been that entertained listening to a cycling insight for long times , thanks ! you were already exactly as well-spoken as today in these interviews
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It strikes me, that I just subbed now, been following this channel for years.
This is one of the best inside peleton stories I've ever witnessed, incl. 2nd hand reports from the peletons in the golden years in the 1970s. This is plus gold standard. Haven't seen the stage since then, i.e. nearly 17 years from now, but remember every meter now as a TV watcher. But this is on a completely different level. Goose bumps.
I remember that stage, it was epic (later tainted by what happened), I love the way Chris Horner tells it from the inside of the race and his job, epic also !
Amazing,really like the way you tell the race story,i remember thinking,at the time, that history was being made.
Had the pleasure to see you race in Vancouver BC ,bitter sweet for you at the time ,i'm sure,but super cool for the fans.Thanks for coming out
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Awesome segment. You've got the best stories. Bonus that you're a really good storyteller. Chapeau.
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Hi Chris. Just fished listening to this for the second time. This time with my wife. An amazing story because it is told by someone there. I am glad to get your outlook on Lance and others. Your reasoning is undeniable. Thank you, John. Oklahoma USA
Great storytelling Chris! So much fun just listening about your racing days!
Thanks so much Chris for sharing that day. From a tough day to one that might not have been as painful, my wife and I watched your Tour de Georgia podium celebration in Atlanta. We were fans from that day on and followed you over the years. Thanks for all of the gutsy rides and winning one for the "old" guys in Spain. Please keep them coming.
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What a great recap and perspective. I was watching that stage and told my wife "they'll be talking about this stage and Floyd's performance for 50 years."
Thanks for sharing your race stories! Reminds me of how I would re-live my race stories with teammates in college and amateur racing. :) So great! I was so stoked when you faught for the win, and won, at the Giro…inspiring! Thanks Chris!
Great story Chris. I remembered this stage as if it was yesterday
Wow, great story Chris! I've been a big fan of yours since the RadioShack days and always loved the way your rode and also your interviews. So much respect for what you did in cycling during your the latter years, especially the 2013 Vuelta, of course. I'm so glad I found your channel today and I just subscribed. Keep up the great work, especially story time, I really enjoyed it.
Will do. I’m behind here in January but will get on it very soon. 👍
I looked at OLN’s video coverage on UA-cam when I saw you posted this, and in the last 24 hours it has jumped over 1,000 views.
That said in watching the finale you have to believe something was up as Landis arrives at the finish line looking way too fresh. It was epic to watch!
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Fabulous commentary. I can visualize the stage without even needing the video. Wonderful Chris! 10 out of 10
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Horner & McEwen hands down best story tellers from the Tour.
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couldn't agree more
Yeah I’d agree with that Harley
Hello durian rider, how are you?
All the the sugar and all the food you can bring me! Love it! Epic!
I just watched this video again. It's awesome Chris. Thanks for posting it. I found another video with a bunch of interviews, it's a great watch.
"Crushed guys souls " that was a great line. I've been on a couple soul crushing rides ,lol. great story.
This is the best episode Chris Horner has ever done, he really gets into everything that was going on at the time, totally agree with his viewpoint!
15:30 You could also have had an excellent career as a diplomat given how you describe the state of the peloton at this point in time 😄. Really appreciate your story!
"It's...not even"
Chris, I just listened to your "Local Legends" podcast interview, which made me want to jump over here to check out the Butterfly Effect. After watching the Vuelta video and now this, I am hooked. I love the logistic aspects of a pro cycling team. It's not something that most of us weekend warriors are that dialed into. I mean, we understand that each team has various types of riders that will perform well in various types of stages, and that each day the strategy will adjust based on how well various riders are performing, but I love the fact that when your "job" was done, you pulled over and hopped off the bike to take in a snickers and a coke. It's like you rolled up to the AM/PM on PCH in Encinitas and popped inside for some snacks. We can ALL relate to that! Thanks for breaking it down for us!
So glad to see you cover this stage. This is literally my favorite stage of any Tour stage I’ve ever seen. I will never forget this day, I was at work listening to the race and when they said Floyd broke away and was charging up the mountain, I knew something special was happening. I immediately left work without explanation and drove home as fast as possible to get to the TV. I stood in my living room cheering for Floyd and watching the most incredible ride I have ever seen. Floyd dumping water on himself the entire ride, putting time into the pack and descending like a demon on his way to the line. Most amazing performance I have ever seen. Years later after Floyd’s fall from grace, he was riding in the Tour of Missouri on the Ouch team, I was there yelling for Floyd. To this day one of my favorite riders I ever watched along with Robbie McEwen and Tyler Hamilton.
Floyd’s got a good heart.
Incredible storytelling! Thanks, Chris! That was a great refresher. I had missed the live airing that morning and never really looked at the full stage after. Just the recaps and then the fallout.
Wow, Just caught this. This is a Fantastic Story Chris, Thanks for sharing your take on it. Definitely half an hour well spent. I think that you make an important point about Lance/Floyd etc and the Stage.
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Just rewatched this stage. This along with your "Story" really changed how all this went down! Thanks !
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Next story Tour de Basque and working for Contador. Epic!
Sounds like a good episode. 👊
Love Horner's take on bike racing. Amazing how gracious he is given his own career was probably hurt by his competition's doping.
What a great breakdown, thank you! Always been a fan of you.
Man, this is one of you best videos!!! What a great talent to tell these stories!!!
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@@ChrisHornerCycling I'm really looking forward to have you as guest speaker on our live/webinar mate! Will love to hear your stories! :-) Looks like it's going to work! The marketing ladies are finishing of the details and should reach out to set a date! :-)
I Love "Super Domestique story Time" You are an Honorary Aussie for services rendered to Cadel!
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Free Ranger got it right. I feel like I'm sitting around after a ride, listening to a friend explain his latest Grand Fondo ride. Totally relatable and so much fun. Thanks Chris. Love what you're doing. I actually watch your daily analysis BEFORE the stage. I know it spoils the finish BUT on these flatter stages I love knowing what to look for, whose making the right decisions, whose making the wrong one. I love it.
Love the stories, keep them coming. I remember watching that epic stage. BTW, it's 'let the cat out of the bag', not 'mouse'. Cracked me up with that one.
Hehehe. Right after I said it I was thinking. I’m going to get hit in the comments for that one. 😂👊
Watching this for the dozenth or so time, and it's just hit me how fun yet insightful your Lotto team would have been - yourself and Robbie on the media side of it, Mario and Christophe now in the team cars, and Cadel doing testing.
Coach,
Another great video. When I saw the 29 minute length, I didn't think I could go the distance, but, man, it flew by. Lots of great detail. I never put this stage into perspective as far as historical impact on the sport, but yes, you are right about that in your thoughts in the last few minutes. Before this, I would never even consider the idea of "thanking" these guys in a way, but I would surely thank the cycling gods for what transpired here, and the fallout that came from it. Those of us who believe in the sport and the ideal of clean racing need to understand that it has to take a stage like this and all the intricate backstories involved to create the domino effect that eventually changed the landscape of cycling, and for that all of us who believe in the ideal of clean cycling can't help BUT be thankful. The end result is worth it. If not for something so massively distasteful, real change cannot happen. Also, great stuff on Cadel and what it was like working for him and just what
surviving that day was like. Much respect. Always love your videos. More stories Captain!!!
Your comment is exactly how I wanted it to be taken and also I believe like you it took these specific and legendary people in cycling at that time to make the change happen. Anything less and it would have been another headline in the papers and soon gone the next week. 👊thanks for the reply.
I remember this stage and this tour.. it was a big blow to my enthusiasm towards the sport..
Cadel always looked in pain, Chris always looked happy O/O°
Man, I was his teammate and could not tell the difference between his I’m almost dropped and going out the back from his I’m going to attack and win the race face. He always looked bad😂😜👍
Thanks Chris. Another great story. Well done. I don´t watch nearly as much cycling as I used to - I did watch that day live. Your perspective on it is singular and thought provoking. As a rider that surfed those turbulent times, I always knew you were a clever bloke and respected your body of work as a rider. Now you are back putting color and perspective on the sport. Even on an epic day that was essentially forgotten. In a way you and your side-kick CVV on NBC have rekindled somewhat my interest in the pro side of the sport, and I thank you for that, as those are days I spend with my son, who is a soccer player, but also one of those sports crazy kids that´s like a multi-sport encyclopedia, and, because I still ride mountain and road, cycling is one of his sports. Thanks for your work. Keep it going!
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What an awesome story Chris, thanks for sharing it and your passion for cycling. It’s so nice to get this inside the race story to help us get an idea of what the race is like. Now hopefully I can find the 2006 TDF to watch the whole race.
It’s worth the effort to hunt it down. 👍
Thanks Chris. Inside info was great and love your attitude on the sport as a whole. Back then and now.
Thank you - this sport is like music - the more I learn the more I want to know.
Chris, thank you for the epic race story. Can’t imagine the suffering. I really like the detail and the respect you show for fellow racers in that era. What a time you raced in. Got me into racing. Always love the butterfly effect brother.. keep them coming, peace be with you
Can’t wait for the season to get going again. 👊
"As much sugar and food as you can bring me" haha so true.
Sugar all day long. 😜
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Always one of my favorites Chris all the way back to your American years. I'll never forget this epic Landis ride. Thanks for bringing it along with the Corner, Butterfly effect, & now Storytime. Hope we'll get more of these. Love the channel. Keep posting please Brother. You rock!
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Love the story times Chris
Hey Chris, fellow American 🇺🇸 here (expat living in Italy 🇮🇹now), new 2 your channel and new sub here!!!! In 2017 I rekindled my love affair with cycling and is what has helped keep me sober (since 2010) while still serving in our USAF as a reservist/contractor here. Cycling from these years and during the 90s was HUGELY INFLUENTIAL for the sport both positively and negatively. THANKS FOR YOUR CONTENT💪🇮🇹🇺🇸👍
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durianrider brought me here. I agree with durianrider, Horners channel is a gem. He is insanely entertaining with his story time videos.
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Great video Chris, so glad I came across your channel, liked and subscribed. Really missed you on the tour this year. Cheers
If you think CH is entertaining here, you should to get the privilege of spending hours with him traveling during a stage race. Better than you can imagine.
Chris' analysis of a race/stage is second to none, even gassed at the finishing line of a tough uphill finish. Truly amazing.
Green with envy
@@laurarodriguezdiaz6489 LOL Chris is VERY entertaining. The only guy that I ever came across that was close to being as much fun is Geoff Brown, mechanic for all kinds of World Tour teams.
How do you get that?
@@laurarodriguezdiaz6489 Over the years I worked with Jittery Joes, Mountain Khakis/Smart Stop, Astellas, Lupus, Happy Tooth, and Hangar 15. Chris was with Lupus when I was with them. He was my co-pilot and I had a great time.
Chris, thank you for sharing. These kind of details are far better than just watching a broadcast video with the commentators talking
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This is such an awesome video, great work Chris. Would love to see more story time style videos like this. Such great insight and very entertaining
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Hooooolly crap Chris!!! what a story, this channel is unique because of you and the story teller that you are with so many details, stuff that only inside the peloton anybody would know I never though I could find in youtube. Thank you for sharing I've subscribed and will let my friends know here, well... those that speak english at leat! :D Blessings.
Chris, I really love hearing these epic cycling stories from your POV and you have an amazing memory. Please keep making content!
Amazing stories, analysis, perspectives, straight from a man who was creating history. Thanks. Excellent.
I remember watching the stage without any doubt there were peds at play and thinking “Floyd No, that’s too much”. Lance would only do just enough and often yield the stage victory but maintain his time gaps.
I don’t have any problem with peds being at play tbh. It was great racing at the time and everyone was on a level playing field
Hautacam 2000? Lol.
@@blackmamba3060 the most underrated performance of Lance career it never gets brought up enough
Put like 3 minutes into everyone that day
Love your commentary and perspective on this stage. It was definitely needed for the sport. Watching it at the time, it was an amazing spectacle and afterwards it did have the effect of forcing the sport to get more serious about trying to clean itself up. The tactics and grit on that stage were incredible despite the taint.
A great quote from the commentators "If Michael Rasmussen can do it yesterday, why not Floyd today?"
Haha...same answer of course !
@@Peakabike LMFAO....
Only that it was not the same - the way they stepped of their bikes...
First time finding the channel. You are a great story teller, and the perspective you share of being a supporting rider is very interesting and entertaining. I hope you'll share more.
I remember watching this. Notice the heads of the riders when he passed everyone. They were turning quickly.
Man, that series is amazing.
I wish you carry on telling stories about epic stages you raced in the past.
You could even make a full series about the Vuelta 2013
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That was incredible and always love hearing Chris’s takes. I need to find those post stage interviews he mentioned. I probably saw them live at the time, it would be cool to go back and check that out.
Epic storytelling of an epic day. I was there, with two friends, just a few KMs up the Col de la Colombière with a huge banner that said “Allez Dude”. I remember nearly losing it when I saw Floyd in a small group at the front…and there were what felt like minutes back to the next following group. My buddies and I cycled back down to Le Grand-Bornand, where we found a bar with 30+ stinking sweaty cyclists around a massive TV, crazy hot day, and watched Floyd climb the last climb alone doing the unbelievable. I’ve never been so excited during a single stage in my life. Thanks for the story and the amazing insights, too! Keep up the great work!
Yes! That day was hot!!! I did so many trips back and fourth to the car for Cadel and I, it was crazy hot. 👍🦋
I think "Floyd tested positive" is a bit of an understatement, I imagine he broke the test. He probably went to his doctor the night before and said: "give me everything you got"
No amount of drugs can turn a mule into a race horse. Everyone on team csc and t mobile were doped to the gills and still got destroyed by Floyd who was simply better and just wanted it more .
@@abone2pickLandis was off the scales in the high doses of testosterone he had taken the night before. +A bag of red blood cells. It was more than enough to turn someone average into a champion in 24 hours.
Come on, it was only a smallish suitcase full of drugs.
Drugs at best give you a 5% advantage but in a game of fractions of a percent that's alot. Besides all the top 50 are juicing, thats why they never found anyone clean to give Lance's wins to. Just a charade, nothing more.
@@holmbjerg all the pros were doing the same regiment. Blood doping and micro dosing testosterone for recovery.
Least Chris has the ass to talk informatively about this era openly and sensibly and that's brilliant if I may say. I was always with all the riders pov at that time. All of them made that era and it was super entertaining and for that I'm truly thankful for their sacrifices! I'll always appreciate Chris and his brilliant blow-by-blow stories.
After that TdF stare and race i stopped watching cycling. Then I returned few years later. Cool memories
Thanks for the great story, Chris. I could listen to your stories all day. I remember sitting on the grass before the El Cajon Grand Prix with one of my teammates, Jason Charlibois, when you and a few of your Mercury teammates sat down with us and just started telling stories. Thanks for that day and for your stories.
Jason is one of my oldest friend. We ride and moto together every time I’m in San Diego.
“Could crash, or worse... get a flat tire...” 😳😳😳
Wonderful Chris - let’s hope the UCI and TDF can develop and show humility for those riders who became scapegoats for the environment every rider found themselves at that time
(long pause) "...how riders were preparing for races" - interesting way to describe the situation.
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Great post. Real insight. Love your channel generally - though you usually talk too quickly! This the best. Thanks. Leigh
You're thanking the wrong people. USADA is who deserves thanks from the younger generation.
Chris, I’ve always loved your enthusiasm and honesty. You are a good and honest soul. This coming weekend I have a tough climbing event and listening/watching your vlogs is like fuel to my soul, a “doping” to my being.
Love you brother Chris...
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Great perspective Chris. People need to talk about this. Thanks!
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One of my sons was really into cycling and Lance and I got hooked and watched the TdF on NBC on Sunday afternoons. I do remember Floyd's loss of the lead and then the next stage. Wow, It was amazing, well I got hooked on the sport and very glad that you Chris are helping me understand it so much better. Merry Christmas. Jim
Merry Christmas
I'm a simple man. I see Chris Horner video, I click.
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Late to reply. Huge fan of Chris from his riding to his commentary and spirit. Great guy. I also enjoy his time in Bend. I was born there in the 50s and raised through my 30s. It’s kind of an overrun recreational area now unsurprisingly. Anyway I think it was Chris who actually physically carried a rider up Cascade Lakes hwy in race out side of Bend. That shows to me how great a person he was.