Looks easier than modifying an old Llama 9mm frame to fit a 22 conversion. I did that back in the 90's. I shot truck loads of ammo through it over the years. It was worth it. 👍
ya, why it was prooved..... to good to be true, no firing pin, no chamber, no extractor no bolt , no steel barrel,.... you've have to convert more then 50% :\ lol even if it could fire its abs olastic and pot metal..... abs is rated to 1200 psi and .22LR squeeze 12000 psi..... neet frag grenade :-(
that's fake, he didn't bought an airsoft gun with a co2 cartridge and converted it, because the whole mechanism is completely different to a real gun, co2 guns don't use a real hammer with a striker, they open a valve to send air in the barrel! he had a 1911 and bought a conversion kit for 22lr, they exist for nearly all pistols! but in most countries, conversion kid, a barrel, etc. you need a permission like for a new gun, so better buy a new!
@@Ezekiel903 it is for sure a GSG spec CO2 airsoft gun. They're made of strong aluminium just like the real GSG .22 1911s. The only major difference between the toy and the real thing is the upper assembly/slide. Once you install the real .22lr slide it'll have the hammer and firing pin. might also require some other slight modifications but i don't know since I've never tried lol
Beretta M92 9mm slides cracked when using +P military ammo in civilian version pistols where one tester lost a tooth and other got scratches, however this issue was adjusted. 22lr have a much lower pressure and would not likely send parts of a steel slide flying back at you. People have even used 3d-printed 1911 slides in PLA and not had any catastrophic failiure.
I’m wondering more if the strength of how the rails are mounted to the frame will be sufficient (as on the BB gun the rails are part of an inner assembly which is pinned and screwed to the frame) Also, I wonder how the cheap metal internals will hold up to the force of the stiff hammer spring
@@CoyoteBytes hey man I watched the video a bunch would you be able to go into a litter further detail about the disconnect you were talking about in the video?
@@elizabethradmore6303 There is a trigger disconnect that serves as a out of battery disconnect and a trigger disconnect that keeps the hammer reset until you release and pull it again. Without something like this the hammer would simply ride the slide back down. The disconnect hinged upward and I had to remove some material so it would clear the slide so that the operation was not impinged. .
@@CoyoteBytes hey man it would be super interesting if you would do another airsoft pistol... I was thinking the glock but the German engineering is too complicated to macgyver... but the Brettas you probably could.... super Intrested man and good for you for figuring that out
I got the sig 1911 we the people co2 airsoft. The slide damn near slides straight on right out of the box and the .22 mag fits perfectly fully functional straight out of the box. It actually shoots better, straighter and smoother than my buddy’s real steel .22 1911 😂💯
I'm probably on a list now lol.. i swear im just curious. I'm surprised it actually works, especially with an airsoft gun. I thought this would've been a steel bb gun.
Same. What a ridiculous thing to have a worry about. People kill people driving drunk with cars.. politicans don't take cars away from sober law abiding drivers for it 😂
@@CoyoteBytes hey bud. Lots and lots of love from bc Canada. Quick question. Is this lower all metal? Ive seen some of these which say all metal. I thought the lower frame is polymer? Is it metal? How'd you mill it out? Is dremal tool sufficient
My buddy built a couple very similar like this maybe 8 years ago, he needed some help with it and I was able to give my 2 cents and he ran the heck out of them. Use plenty of Graphite lube. Easy money*
Some comments say so, and many ask the same thing. Ik it's been a year, but have you gotten any information on this yourself? I've been curious to own a 1911 for a very long time, but they're typically quite expensive compared to .. well, this.
Could you please make a 22lr conversion for the crosman snr357 snubnose metal pellet revolver? it looks like all youde need is to drill a hole for a pin and put a floating spring held hammer inside the hole. The revolvers use a faux cartrdige the same size as 22 rimfire so cylinder need not be changed. The main thing i want to know is how to go about replacing the barrel and with what barrel should be used for safteys sake. I know the other crossman airguns have 22cal rifled barrels that would fit although need a trim to be short enough but its a airgun barrel. i know it sits inside a thick metal frame but idk abd cant find any answers on if it's a saftey hazard. I would think since the explosion takes place in the thick strong cyclender that it should be fine plus its like only 2.75 or 3in long barrel so not alot of room for a slug to jam and blow it up but again i wouldent want to f Take a chance not knowing forsure. Ive seen black powder muzzle loader revolvers convert to 22lr easy peasy so ide think the saftey would be similar since its the same grade of metal used and being the 22lr or 22blanks converted to shoot slugs have a low pressure that could be safely contained inside the frame when fired. This is cool but like you said with fhe slide its going to gunk up quick. Why don't you try taking something like the crosman SNR357 .177 metal construction c02 revolver ans make it into a 22lr? It wouldent gunk shut forsure because no slide its all manual rotation from the trigger pull or hammer cock. Plus its better because 22lr can be unreliable anx when u have a dud in a blowback u gotta clear the dud with a revolvet yoi just pull the trigger again. So either i am going to buy a $250-$350 5in bareel bp revolver and a $200-$300 conversion to 22lr or instead ide rather have the smaller, better looking pellet revolver thats only $75-$100 with a firing pin, a couple springs, and new barrel for $75-$100. It would make for a much more compact much better looking revolver thats $175-$225 instead of the $500 to $650 bp revolver and conversion kit. Please give me any incite you have. If you know of a specific model of full metal bb pellet or airsoft revolver that is easy and functional i would really appreciate to know which to get and what parts will work with it. I mean ar $175-$200 price range im getting a s&w style snub nose 22lr revolver for the same or leas than the cost of a long 6-8in barrel single action 22lr revolver off the store shelf.
I’ve thought about converting that exact model to 22. From what I remember at that time I felt drilling the barrel cover and finding a .22 inner barrel would be best, but never got around to looking at a good safe way to secure it. Firing pin issue should be somewhat simple, and as for chamber/cartridges... you could either make adapters that fit the .38 cylinder that you can slide a .22lr in to, or just pour some metal all down the chambers and then drill that out for the .22. I ended up dropping my gun and bending the crane before I could get any further with the idea
@@GetIntoYourLife the plunger doesn’t matter too much. If the airsoft part fits then good! It might wear quicker though as it’s cheap metal like the rest of the airsoft. I had to make one because I think I was using a pulled .22 bullet as one while it was a BB gun haha. I don’t know if the bb slide stop will work. It’s slightly different dimensionally and when I was hand fitting the barrel I made it fit the one that came with the kit, not the BB model. You can fit the barrel to that and find out if it will be activated by the magazine. Or look at it compared to pictures of a real one on the web
I’m Canadian and I have a KWC but they’re banning handguns here soon :( I hope I can do this.. because I really don’t wanna have to use a 3D print shop and end up on a watch list hahaha
@@eriv4735 hey there i have a question i really want answered and you obvs have the experience. I asked elsewhere but I'll post here, hoping for a reply! thanks for getting back to me. Does it work properly? Any advice before i start? I cant seem to find colt M1911 A1 100th anniversary (the one in video) but i have question. Will any kwc / cybergun 1911 co2 pistol work, as long as its kwc ?. I have seen videos that they're identical inside? Should I get 6mm or 4.5mm, does it even matter, as long as frame is metal?
Nice mod~ this is essentially the same as is you were to use an 80% lower receiver to make your 1911. how much did this all cost after all is said and done?
I have done this with a sig airsoft lower and a advanced arms 22lr upper.. I can't get it to fire tho.. everything seems to be working fine I just don't get it.. any idea?
If it’s dropping the hammer and nothing is happening then the spring is too light..if you pull the trigger and nothing happens then it’s the little tab sticking up on the rear right hand side of the lower receiver..when the hammer moves in the there tab goes up into a relief in the airsoft slide but the .22 upper has no such relief..you just need to grind that little tab flush with the rails on the hammer back position..should work just fine..keep it oiled and clean 👍
Now I know how 2 do it any body wanna know all yu gotta do is get da 6mm kwc 1911 wit da sig sauger 1911 22lr magazine on ebay the clip fit right in da kwc 6mm perfectly
@@d1miniquem0rris92 I am genuinely curious, and I do have a KWC frame. It is mechanically plausible due to all the stress of firing .22lr taken up by the conversion. The frame is zamak (aluminum alloy) and many .22lr and .380 ACP pistols are made entirely out of it. So it would be perfectly safe. It is legal as well as long as you live in a free state. (I do).
Hey man, did you grind down the little piece or metal that sticks up in the back right hand side of the slide rails? I am using an elite force airsoft frame, and the hammer wont drop on the .22 slide because of that little metal piece
@@eriv4735 I did have a feeling that the hammer springs on the airsofts and BBs were not THAT powerful, they need to open valves and such but I guess they’re not strong enough to dent a .22 primer... that’s unfortunate
Use the BB version! The Tanfoglio witness and the We the people sig by KWC! They’re CNC 3300 vs the airsoft version,pot cast metal! Our customs use those kits!
@@bananaman2184 I got it all put together but I haven't had time to finish it I talk to a friend said he said I should make the rail thinner he said it to thick
A kit is similar too what u are coming from a letter is off cause Ur a "kid". And since a pathetic child like u not knowing how too sneak a firearm or just trying too protect yourself well... A kit is a air soft pistol... Id too like too know more about this method of getting a gun yes but a bottom receiver is hard too find that'll take the slide of a real 1911. And a air-soft gun which youd buy would be manufactured too a real working firearm.
@@jaff1842 One, please learn how to spell. Two, you appear to be projecting as you seem to be a petulant child. Three, I could barely even make out what you were saying, but what I could make out you are completely wrong. I mean come on you failed at the premise of what the OP said.
Jame Johnson The elite force 1911 is about $115 on eBay..as for the 22lr conversion I paid $250 for it but that was 4 yrs ago and I can’t find it on eBay now..you can probably get it from sig Sauer themselves but it’ll more than likely be like $400 or so..as far as smithing goes, you need to change out the main spring and plunger so I suggest swapping out the entire housing for a real one..everything else can be done with files, emery cloth, A LOT of patience, and very specific attention to detail..it might be easier to get an 80% glock complete kit from budk but the 1911 is just such a bad ass piece
@@Mystical-Mr2000were you able to drill in the area where the BB gun parts used to be? Also, assuming you shot it how the heck did it survive the .45 recoil? Make sure you are checking the rails for cracks/deformation, check the screw holding the assembly to the frame, and check the pin running through the hammer as that’s also taking recoil. Oh and look at where the slide lock runs through the frame. See if that is getting ovaled out. Oh and check the internals as they are all cheap pot metal and I can’t imagine they will last especially with the stronger .45 hammer spring. You should post a video/pictures. That is super interesting
@@Rob-z6f believe it or not, that would be even easier. Macs are made for ease of manufacture and the ejector is in the upper. If I wanted to up the challenge I guess I could make the whole gun without any gun parts…hmm
@CoyoteBytes I was thinking the same thing the only real issue I could think about is mag we'll size unless you have a vertical 3 axis mill or cnc machine that is
@@CoyoteByteshi I saw your album on imgur i know its a lot to ask but I was wondering if you could perhaps post a close up of the inside of the slide? so I could tell what exactly you removed & maybe a better photo of the trigger? Sorry for all these questions I am fascinated.
@@CoyoteBytes does the 19lb Wilson combat spring cause the slide to not cycle sometimes (because of the momentum it takes from a cycling slide)?? Would 16 lb work better?
@@royalloyalty8248 Its a .22lr pistol on a full slide. It's fairly unreliable. the 19lb wilson spring was required to make it powerful enough to ignite the rimfire. You can play with spring rates but rimfire needs a fairly substantial strike to work.
@@CoyoteBytes Hey bud really quick question. I got it all put together but the magazine keeps popping out when slide is forward. it said (on imgur) "slide fit had to be approved to get magazine to feed properly", what exactly did you do? I cannot get mag to stay in unless locked back. Pls give me advice, i followd all the instructions. Im almost done, only thing is magazine doesn't fit properly (keeps popping out, looks like its touching the slide)? Did you alter the slide at all? Howd ya get it to fit, please let me know good sir
@@XavierSabo I used a broken off drill bit as an end mill and chucked it into a hand drill. The frame is zamak or something similar you you can cut this in with many different tools.
Anyone know what beavertail is compatible with the gsg can't find one through gsg or sig please let me know what fits without any modifications if anyone knows?
@@cadenbennett3859 1911 components usually have to be hand fitted. You already have to cut on the slide rails anyway. Match your frame to your slide and you'll be fine.
@@CoyoteBytes hey please reply. What'd you use to mill out the lower? Drill/dremal/file? Also how'd you cut the rails/what tool did you use?? Please let me know sir.
@@royalloyalty8248 sandpaper, Hand files, and a hand drill. The hand drill was only for the inside of the dust cover. You could use a dremel for that part. You will want to cut the rails by hand.
You don’t need a license to own any gun. You just need a background check if you are buying a completed gun. Neither airsofts or conversion kits are considered firearms and don’t need a background check
Bonjour je souhait vous acheter la conversion j'habite en fance et ces compliquer a trouver je peut vous l'acheter plus que sa valeur bien sur pour que vous y ganger quelque chose se serait vraiment cool
You cant, builds like these are interesting but you should always make sure to find out what the legal requirements are in your area and follow those laws. Once you have the required permits and are aware of the laws i am sure gun store importers will be willing to order even odd fun project parts like this 👍🏻
Like anyone with knowledge on the subject i am conflicted on how effective gun laws are at preventing crime but as a metaphore just because seat belts dont stop crashes doesnt mean you shouldnt use one, even if you feel some laws are unjustified they should still be followed and by doing so you will be saving yourself alot of trouble
@@zdravkonovosel122 Ah okay, might be something to do with laws on building firearms? I live in Europe too and i am not entirely sure but i believe building guns is illegal here if you arent a licensed manufacturer so while things like this are interesting and the mechanics of different especially bizarre firearms are very fun to see it might not be possible to do legally. Have you tried asking the Police for help? Atleast in my country they offer advice on ordering firearms and parts legally
@@richardw3404 nope. Our police are corrupted and political motivated,they don't help people. I think i must check our gunstores for some conversion parts.
The frame is ZAMAC. Zinc, Aluminum,Magnesium, and Copper. So yes it is aluminum alloy. A lot of .22LR, .22 magnum and .380 ACP pistols are made of it so don’t worry about it breaking. All the stress of firing is exerted on the steel components of the barrel and locking block. Even the 9mm and .45 high point pistols are made of zamac.
Welcome to the feds watch list
Pretty sure it’s legal
Agreed
@@rustyshackleford6693 Pretty sure you creating a untraceable gun Aka Ghost Gun. Witch is a Charge
@@quacky.-9696 making your own gun is perfectly legal if you wish to sell said firearm then it must be serialized
@@quacky.-9696 that's completely false
Looks easier than modifying an old Llama 9mm frame to fit a 22 conversion. I did that back in the 90's. I shot truck loads of ammo through it over the years. It was worth it. 👍
ya, why it was prooved..... to good to be true, no firing pin, no chamber, no extractor no bolt , no steel barrel,.... you've have to convert more then 50% :\ lol even if it could fire its abs olastic and pot metal..... abs is rated to 1200 psi and .22LR squeeze 12000 psi..... neet frag grenade :-(
that's fake, he didn't bought an airsoft gun with a co2 cartridge and converted it, because the whole mechanism is completely different to a real gun, co2 guns don't use a real hammer with a striker, they open a valve to send air in the barrel! he had a 1911 and bought a conversion kit for 22lr, they exist for nearly all pistols! but in most countries, conversion kid, a barrel, etc. you need a permission like for a new gun, so better buy a new!
@@Ezekiel903 I think it was an springer not co2 or green gas
@@nicolasoof630 ah ok, then it could be possible.
@@Ezekiel903 it is for sure a GSG spec CO2 airsoft gun. They're made of strong aluminium just like the real GSG .22 1911s. The only major difference between the toy and the real thing is the upper assembly/slide. Once you install the real .22lr slide it'll have the hammer and firing pin. might also require some other slight modifications but i don't know since I've never tried lol
Beretta M92 9mm slides cracked when using +P military ammo in civilian version pistols where one tester lost a tooth and other got scratches, however this issue was adjusted. 22lr have a much lower pressure and would not likely send parts of a steel slide flying back at you. People have even used 3d-printed 1911 slides in PLA and not had any catastrophic failiure.
I’m wondering more if the strength of how the rails are mounted to the frame will be sufficient (as on the BB gun the rails are part of an inner assembly which is pinned and screwed to the frame)
Also, I wonder how the cheap metal internals will hold up to the force of the stiff hammer spring
I'd finished mine. It turn out great. Thanks dude.
Excellent news. I hope it serves you well.
Could someone msg me a like a mini tutorial I'd love to learn I just need a bit of help
@@CoyoteBytes hey man I watched the video a bunch would you be able to go into a litter further detail about the disconnect you were talking about in the video?
@@elizabethradmore6303 There is a trigger disconnect that serves as a out of battery disconnect and a trigger disconnect that keeps the hammer reset until you release and pull it again. Without something like this the hammer would simply ride the slide back down. The disconnect hinged upward and I had to remove some material so it would clear the slide so that the operation was not impinged. .
@@CoyoteBytes hey man it would be super interesting if you would do another airsoft pistol... I was thinking the glock but the German engineering is too complicated to macgyver... but the Brettas you probably could.... super Intrested man and good for you for figuring that out
I got the sig 1911 we the people co2 airsoft. The slide damn near slides straight on right out of the box and the .22 mag fits perfectly fully functional straight out of the box. It actually shoots better, straighter and smoother than my buddy’s real steel .22 1911 😂💯
Amj Fort Worth what did you have to do to convert it? Also what conversion kit did you use?
Amj Fort Worth what all did you have to do I am considering buying it
Did u do sigs 22 conversion set too?
@AmjFortWorth
Which conversion kit did you use?
Wait all you did was put a 22 magazine in it?
I'm probably on a list now lol.. i swear im just curious. I'm surprised it actually works, especially with an airsoft gun. I thought this would've been a steel bb gun.
Same. What a ridiculous thing to have a worry about. People kill people driving drunk with cars.. politicans don't take cars away from sober law abiding drivers for it 😂
I wasn’t even thinking abt while looking this up haha😭
So what you’re saying is you don’t need to use green gas with that any more? 🤓
lmao
Mmmm green gas:))
yall funny as hell. love the humor
@@str33tandidontfwfeds13 “not a cop” 😭
I wonder if the
Airsoft Surgeon Springfield Operator 1911 CNC Slide & Frame Set will work with a steel NOVA hammer
Not illegal for you to build a gun from a bb gun as long as you can build a gun from scratch in the US.
Where did you buy your GSG 1911 .22LR Conversion kit from?
Internet
So if it's legal to make your own gun and it's legal for you to own in the first place does that mean this build is legal?
Yes this is legal here.
@@CoyoteBytes hey bud. Lots and lots of love from bc Canada. Quick question. Is this lower all metal? Ive seen some of these which say all metal. I thought the lower frame is polymer? Is it metal? How'd you mill it out? Is dremal tool sufficient
Where is here?
My buddy built a couple very similar like this maybe 8 years ago, he needed some help with it and I was able to give my 2 cents and he ran the heck out of them.
Use plenty of Graphite lube.
Easy money*
Lol
man this is weird
i felt like SOMEONES done this before but i didnt realise that there would be like 100s of videos
Video on the diy ejector please!?!?!????
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rom who did you order the kid thanks
The ejector is built into the upper. It’s on the barrel so you don’t need to buy one. Just the kit itself.
Could it work with a “1911 we the people” bb gun
Some comments say so, and many ask the same thing. Ik it's been a year, but have you gotten any information on this yourself? I've been curious to own a 1911 for a very long time, but they're typically quite expensive compared to .. well, this.
Nice video man! Thanks for the information! For the time being....I'll keep my Antique pocket revolver with .44 conversion cylinder!
Nice work man.
I have a 2011 Combat Master airsoft, wonder if I could do the same with it.
Auto play is so weird I was watching bible study videos.
Since real life is doing revelations they thought you might need it. Welcome.
Could you please make a 22lr conversion for the crosman snr357 snubnose metal pellet revolver? it looks like all youde need is to drill a hole for a pin and put a floating spring held hammer inside the hole. The revolvers use a faux cartrdige the same size as 22 rimfire so cylinder need not be changed. The main thing i want to know is how to go about replacing the barrel and with what barrel should be used for safteys sake. I know the other crossman airguns have 22cal rifled barrels that would fit although need a trim to be short enough but its a airgun barrel. i know it sits inside a thick metal frame but idk abd cant find any answers on if it's a saftey hazard. I would think since the explosion takes place in the thick strong cyclender that it should be fine plus its like only 2.75 or 3in long barrel so not alot of room for a slug to jam and blow it up but again i wouldent want to f
Take a chance not knowing forsure. Ive seen black powder muzzle loader revolvers convert to 22lr easy peasy so ide think the saftey would be similar since its the same grade of metal used and being the 22lr or 22blanks converted to shoot slugs have a low pressure that could be safely contained inside the frame when fired.
This is cool but like you said with fhe slide its going to gunk up quick. Why don't you try taking something like the crosman SNR357 .177 metal construction c02 revolver ans make it into a 22lr?
It wouldent gunk shut forsure because no slide its all manual rotation from the trigger pull or hammer cock. Plus its better because 22lr can be unreliable anx when u have a dud in a blowback u gotta clear the dud with a revolvet yoi just pull the trigger again.
So either i am going to buy a $250-$350 5in bareel bp revolver and a $200-$300 conversion to 22lr or instead ide rather have the smaller, better looking pellet revolver thats only $75-$100 with a firing pin, a couple springs, and new barrel for $75-$100. It would make for a much more compact much better looking revolver thats $175-$225 instead of the $500 to $650 bp revolver and conversion kit.
Please give me any incite you have. If you know of a specific model of full metal bb pellet or airsoft revolver that is easy and functional i would really appreciate to know which to get and what parts will work with it. I mean ar $175-$200 price range im getting a s&w style snub nose 22lr revolver for the same or leas than the cost of a long 6-8in barrel single action 22lr revolver off the store shelf.
I’ve thought about converting that exact model to 22. From what I remember at that time I felt drilling the barrel cover and finding a .22 inner barrel would be best, but never got around to looking at a good safe way to secure it. Firing pin issue should be somewhat simple, and as for chamber/cartridges... you could either make adapters that fit the .38 cylinder that you can slide a .22lr in to, or just pour some metal all down the chambers and then drill that out for the .22. I ended up dropping my gun and bending the crane before I could get any further with the idea
@@GetIntoYourLife the plunger doesn’t matter too much. If the airsoft part fits then good! It might wear quicker though as it’s cheap metal like the rest of the airsoft. I had to make one because I think I was using a pulled .22 bullet as one while it was a BB gun haha.
I don’t know if the bb slide stop will work. It’s slightly different dimensionally and when I was hand fitting the barrel I made it fit the one that came with the kit, not the BB model. You can fit the barrel to that and find out if it will be activated by the magazine. Or look at it compared to pictures of a real one on the web
I’m Canadian and I have a KWC but they’re banning handguns here soon :( I hope I can do this.. because I really don’t wanna have to use a 3D print shop and end up on a watch list hahaha
Ever end up with anything?
Can you add another video of you changing the hammer spring
m.ua-cam.com/video/3h79fxBNeP0/v-deo.html
Begins at 8:55
@@eriv4735 thanks. So i am gathering any kwc/cybergun 1911 will work?
@@eriv4735 hey there i have a question i really want answered and you obvs have the experience. I asked elsewhere but I'll post here, hoping for a reply!
thanks for getting back to me. Does it work properly? Any advice before i start? I cant seem to find colt M1911 A1 100th anniversary (the one in video) but i have question. Will any kwc / cybergun 1911 co2 pistol work, as long as its kwc ?. I have seen videos that they're identical inside? Should I get 6mm or 4.5mm, does it even matter, as long as frame is metal?
@@eriv4735 also even though that's a different 1911 it should still work also? (The one in the video link you posted)
www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=elite+force+1911&_trksid=p2380057.m4084.l1311&_sacat=0
I used this brand
Is there any airguns can fire 22lr ammo?
Nice mod~ this is essentially the same as is you were to use an 80% lower receiver to make your 1911. how much did this all cost after all is said and done?
Cap Screw $.65
Wilson Combat 19 lb Mainspring $2.99 Midway USA
KWC Airsoft 1911 Cyber Monday Sale $80
GSG 1911 .22lr Kit Cyber Monday From PSA $119.99
@@CoyoteBytes Wow. That's pretty good.
I have done this with a sig airsoft lower and a advanced arms 22lr upper.. I can't get it to fire tho.. everything seems to be working fine I just don't get it.. any idea?
How did you shave the rails
If it’s dropping the hammer and nothing is happening then the spring is too light..if you pull the trigger and nothing happens then it’s the little tab sticking up on the rear right hand side of the lower receiver..when the hammer moves in the there tab goes up into a relief in the airsoft slide but the .22 upper has no such relief..you just need to grind that little tab flush with the rails on the hammer back position..should work just fine..keep it oiled and clean 👍
Hammer spring is probably too light. You can order a real steel hammer spring for around $10 on various gun parts websites like numrich
Hammer spring. Wilson combat 19 lb. Its $3
Now I know how 2 do it any body wanna know all yu gotta do is get da 6mm kwc 1911 wit da sig sauger 1911 22lr magazine on ebay the clip fit right in da kwc 6mm perfectly
no it doesn't u gotta mill it down.
Is there any how to videos out there ? Also is this still possible ? Sometimes companys go out of bizz or change there products
Yes GSG is still making these conversion kits. You can purchase them straight off their website. As for how to videos, I’m still looking myself.
@@xl7667 Would you actually try this
@@d1miniquem0rris92 I am genuinely curious, and I do have a KWC frame. It is mechanically plausible due to all the stress of firing .22lr taken up by the conversion. The frame is zamak (aluminum alloy) and many .22lr and .380 ACP pistols are made entirely out of it. So it would be perfectly safe. It is legal as well as long as you live in a free state. (I do).
@@xl7667 If you do could you make a video
Great! I'm going to be put on "the list"....... AGAIN!!!!!
Hey man, did you grind down the little piece or metal that sticks up in the back right hand side of the slide rails? I am using an elite force airsoft frame, and the hammer wont drop on the .22 slide because of that little metal piece
Where did you get your 22. Conversion kit from? I am in need
@@hollandbozek234 fire arms depot lmao…
@@swojal1493 interesting. You can still buy those even tho the handgun freeze?
@@hollandbozek234 what handgun freeze?
@@swojal1493 youre not in Canada i see
Did you need to replace the hammer spring of the airsoft frame?
Yes
@@eriv4735 I did have a feeling that the hammer springs on the airsofts and BBs were not THAT powerful, they need to open valves and such but I guess they’re not strong enough to dent a .22 primer... that’s unfortunate
No worries dude, just swap out the spring..I use a 16lb spring I got from eBay that costs like 8 bucks 👍
Use the BB version! The Tanfoglio witness and the We the people sig by KWC!
They’re CNC 3300 vs the airsoft version,pot cast metal!
Our customs use those kits!
So how is it that atf has not disappeared you
Hes not really replying . Maybe they did lol
What's the total cost.....I mean you can get a pistol from 200 to more.
I don't remember but it was more than buying a finished pistol. this was done for the journey not for the destination.
I did mine but the fire pin not hitting the primer
Not hitting it at all or not hitting it hard enough?
@@CoyoteBytes I was told it was the rails I need shave down the rails more I was told
@@650stoner were you able to get this fixed? I want to do this with my german airsoft spring 1911
@@bananaman2184 I got it all put together but I haven't had time to finish it I talk to a friend said he said I should make the rail thinner he said it to thick
@@650stoner do u use the normal airsoft trigger
You put the original gsg 22lr barrel for use it with that mag, or you made your own "custom" barrel? Nice project dude !!
That is the GSG barrel. I had to remove material from the frame to get it to fit.
@@CoyoteBytes can you explain what area was needed to be removed..
Question what would happen if i i order a glock frame from ebay then buy bb gun frame from amazon and then get the bottom kit for the loww
no just no
Thanks brother
I would like to know more about this kit and where I can get it online, I'd like to know more about how much it is and what comes with it, thanks
A kit is similar too what u are coming from a letter is off cause Ur a "kid". And since a pathetic child like u not knowing how too sneak a firearm or just trying too protect yourself well... A kit is a air soft pistol... Id too like too know more about this method of getting a gun yes but a bottom receiver is hard too find that'll take the slide of a real 1911. And a air-soft gun which youd buy would be manufactured too a real working firearm.
Jaff Talk about “kid” 🤦🏾♂️😂
@@jaff1842 One, please learn how to spell. Two, you appear to be projecting as you seem to be a petulant child. Three, I could barely even make out what you were saying, but what I could make out you are completely wrong. I mean come on you failed at the premise of what the OP said.
What kind of charger do you use in caliber 22.Which gun comes with this model?
Would that conversion kit work with a KWC M1911 A1 TAC!? If so, is there a video on how to do so?
It should work on any KWC 1911. I’m still looking on a how to video.
Any KWC/ Cybergun 1911 with or without the rails.
Can you do the same thing with a glock ?
Glock air soft frames are far harder to convert. Best thing is just to get a polymer 80 or 3D print a frame.
@@xl7667 I didn’t ask u bro
is there a video on how to do this??
Scottytee Better not.
Fistus Spastus mind your fuckin business
@@elgatogordo1615 I mean there should be. It's legal in the US
@@sussybakatv1959 Chill
@@firstnamelastname9398 This doesnt mean anyone should be able to do it
How much was this process?
Is it possible to make it in a normal .45 do all the airsoft 1911 have to and only can be in 22LR?
no only 22
You think a elite force would work
ABSOLUTELY...I used the elite force tactical with the Sig Sauer.22 conversion kit..took some smithing but it works great
@@eriv4735 really how much
Jame Johnson The elite force 1911 is about $115 on eBay..as for the 22lr conversion I paid $250 for it but that was 4 yrs ago and I can’t find it on eBay now..you can probably get it from sig Sauer themselves but it’ll more than likely be like $400 or so..as far as smithing goes, you need to change out the main spring and plunger so I suggest swapping out the entire housing for a real one..everything else can be done with files, emery cloth, A LOT of patience, and very specific attention to detail..it might be easier to get an 80% glock complete kit from budk but the 1911 is just such a bad ass piece
The elite force it's made by kwc too
@@eriv4735 how did you modify the disconnect?
Any video of that while firing?
I wish u wouldve shown way more
You could also do a 45 conversation
The challenge with that would be installing an ejector
@@CoyoteBytes Already done
@@Mystical-Mr2000 how did that run for you? Which ejector did you go with?
@@Mystical-Mr2000were you able to drill in the area where the BB gun parts used to be?
Also, assuming you shot it how the heck did it survive the .45 recoil? Make sure you are checking the rails for cracks/deformation, check the screw holding the assembly to the frame, and check the pin running through the hammer as that’s also taking recoil. Oh and look at where the slide lock runs through the frame. See if that is getting ovaled out.
Oh and check the internals as they are all cheap pot metal and I can’t imagine they will last especially with the stronger .45 hammer spring.
You should post a video/pictures. That is super interesting
Where can i buy the kit
Now do it with the kwc Mac 11
@@Rob-z6f believe it or not, that would be even easier. Macs are made for ease of manufacture and the ejector is in the upper. If I wanted to up the challenge I guess I could make the whole gun without any gun parts…hmm
@CoyoteBytes I was thinking the same thing the only real issue I could think about is mag we'll size unless you have a vertical 3 axis mill or cnc machine that is
Been looking for a video like this everywhere!,Please do airsoft spring to
M8000 stoeger & the spring M&P90 pistol both into 22lr
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My harmer doesn’t go all the way forward
where can I buy that kit? if you can tell me that'll be highly appreciated, thanks
GSG is German Sport Guns
can you help me to get conversion for m1911 kwc to 22lr,
hows your hammer?still good?and if so how many rounds did you shot so far
Under 2000. Still working thus far.
@@CoyoteByteshi I saw your album on imgur i know its a lot to ask but I was wondering if you could perhaps post a close up of the inside of the slide? so I could tell what exactly you removed & maybe a better photo of the trigger?
Sorry for all these questions I am fascinated.
@@bojackh1032 this. Please coyote tan you're our only hope!!! You and E Riv . He helped out alot also. True patriots and freedom lovers!
what is the cut of you have to do?
Where is the tutorial video for this ? Lol
I made 5 fully automatic 22s
Did you have to shorten your Wilson combat spring??
no, i replaced the plunger with an off the shelf socket head cap screw. Shortening the plunger meant not having to cut the spring.
@@CoyoteBytes how much milling did you have to do?
@@CoyoteBytes does the 19lb Wilson combat spring cause the slide to not cycle sometimes (because of the momentum it takes from a cycling slide)?? Would 16 lb work better?
@@royalloyalty8248 Its a .22lr pistol on a full slide. It's fairly unreliable. the 19lb wilson spring was required to make it powerful enough to ignite the rimfire. You can play with spring rates but rimfire needs a fairly substantial strike to work.
@@CoyoteBytes Hey bud really quick question. I got it all put together but the magazine keeps popping out when slide is forward. it said (on imgur) "slide fit had to be approved to get magazine to feed properly", what exactly did you do? I cannot get mag to stay in unless locked back. Pls give me advice, i followd all the instructions. Im almost done, only thing is magazine doesn't fit properly (keeps popping out, looks like its touching the slide)? Did you alter the slide at all? Howd ya get it to fit, please let me know good sir
Shit feds tuned in cuz thos UA-cam reels got me down an hour benge
Have you tried changing the spring?
Which spring?
What do you mean by milling ?
Rotary cutter. In this case run in a horizontal plane. The frame is too narrow for the 1911-22 recoil spring and barrel lug.
@@CoyoteBytes hi how do you make room for the recoil spring and barrel lug by cutting that stuff out? It would be helpful thanks.
@@XavierSabo I used a broken off drill bit as an end mill and chucked it into a hand drill. The frame is zamak or something similar you you can cut this in with many different tools.
@@CoyoteBytes thanks
@@CoyoteBytes will Dremel work?
Anyone know what beavertail is compatible with the gsg can't find one through gsg or sig please let me know what fits without any modifications if anyone knows?
Will it work with the advantage arms conversion kit I can’t find a single gsg 22lr kit for it
Maybe. The key here was that the ejector was in the slide kit.
@@CoyoteBytes I think there is I just was unsure if the dimensions were the same
@@cadenbennett3859 1911 components usually have to be hand fitted. You already have to cut on the slide rails anyway. Match your frame to your slide and you'll be fine.
@@CoyoteBytes hey please reply. What'd you use to mill out the lower? Drill/dremal/file? Also how'd you cut the rails/what tool did you use?? Please let me know sir.
@@royalloyalty8248 sandpaper, Hand files, and a hand drill. The hand drill was only for the inside of the dust cover. You could use a dremel for that part. You will want to cut the rails by hand.
anyone know where to get this?
Both things on internet.
So this is the reason Qld wants gel blasters to be put into the same category as a normal firearm and require a gun licence fuck me 🤣🤣🤣
Nanny state
Were dose the hex screw go
@@johnbutton2577 it replaces the factory spring plunger to give more clearance for the Wilson spring.
It's possible order the some kit and convert the airsoft 1911KWS to 22lr?real?
It does not drop in. You have to modify the frame and remove some of the internals.
@@CoyoteBytes which internals?
U think it can be done to p226 cybergun
Are there directions with kit
Cap screw 1/4 20 ???
What kind of spring you bought?
@@AlexGarcia-l6z 19lb Wolff
@@CoyoteBytes less words it seems that you have to get rid off the rails for the slide to fit properly ? Is that correct
@@AlexGarcia-l6z yes. There is too much material. The rails must be made smaller in two dimensions.
Interesting video . Is it possible to change out the grip safety and main spring housing ?
They come out. I have not tried replacing them with real 1911 parts so I don't know how far the dimensions are off.
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How much to make me one lol seriously though asking for a friend let me know
What all do you have to do
Colt CO2 Gas Blowback 1911 Full Metal 6 mm Airsoft Pistol will that be gun work ?
This was manufactured by KWC. I cant speak for current production. I was working on a centerfire model and may start that back up in late August.
@@CoyoteBytes but do the 6mm model work ?
@@danielmerritt7459 That is what I started with.
@@CoyoteBytes good looking yu help 2
@@CoyoteBytes do you think beretta a92 can be converted to 22lr
Good. I love 1911
Uhhh think something is wrong. My airsoft gun seems to be shooting through wood and light steel now. I better ask a ref on this one. LOL
"check the stomach, ref!"
I don't understand...why not just buy the 1911 22? They're like $200 😅
Already had the BB gun laying around, and fun of the project itself. Proof of concept/novelty gun
Please tutorial
Do I need a license for the conversion kit
You don’t need a license to own any gun. You just need a background check if you are buying a completed gun. Neither airsofts or conversion kits are considered firearms and don’t need a background check
Thank you
Can this be done on an HK USP?
I do not know.
Hey man ill take the extra air soft parts off your hands
Bonjour je souhait vous acheter la conversion j'habite en fance et ces compliquer a trouver je peut vous l'acheter plus que sa valeur bien sur pour que vous y ganger quelque chose se serait vraiment cool
lol one has to assume the tyrannical laws they are trying to pass in canada to ban airsoft is related to these. Cool DIY project though!
or you know, the fact that it's Canada.
@@CoyoteBytes i love my country sp much, but our gun laws suck. Self defense should be a god given right
Is this frame zinc or aluminum?
Nevermind forgot you mentioned it in the video
It is my understanding that most things that are labeled as zinc are actually an aluminum alloy with some zinc
Zamac
Can you put real on real grips?
I wonder if it’ll work with .45
Where can I find a slide for a glock 17?
Como posso conpra um kit desse
how do u uh... uh... make one??
How much
Can anyone tell me where i can buy GSG .22lr conversion kit without firearm permit? Nonsense really..
You cant, builds like these are interesting but you should always make sure to find out what the legal requirements are in your area and follow those laws. Once you have the required permits and are aware of the laws i am sure gun store importers will be willing to order even odd fun project parts like this 👍🏻
@@richardw3404 but not from USA to Europe,i tried many times..because ATF.
Like anyone with knowledge on the subject i am conflicted on how effective gun laws are at preventing crime but as a metaphore just because seat belts dont stop crashes doesnt mean you shouldnt use one, even if you feel some laws are unjustified they should still be followed and by doing so you will be saving yourself alot of trouble
@@zdravkonovosel122 Ah okay, might be something to do with laws on building firearms? I live in Europe too and i am not entirely sure but i believe building guns is illegal here if you arent a licensed manufacturer so while things like this are interesting and the mechanics of different especially bizarre firearms are very fun to see it might not be possible to do legally. Have you tried asking the Police for help? Atleast in my country they offer advice on ordering firearms and parts legally
@@richardw3404 nope. Our police are corrupted and political motivated,they don't help people. I think i must check our gunstores for some conversion parts.
Aren’t you guys aware that this is illegal?
But it's not...
Is the frame steel or aluminum
Plastic
The frame is ZAMAC. Zinc, Aluminum,Magnesium, and Copper. So yes it is aluminum alloy. A lot of .22LR, .22 magnum and .380 ACP pistols are made of it so don’t worry about it breaking. All the stress of firing is exerted on the steel components of the barrel and locking block. Even the 9mm and .45 high point pistols are made of zamac.
Banana Man 🤦♂️
@@eriv4735 lol
I do not intend on doing this fbi matter of fact I’m just curious will never do this
IS that Legal ??? i´m Danish not American befor someone starts on a rant on me
@@pkj77 I don’t know anything about European gun laws. It’s legal here in the U.S. Some U.S. states are more restrictive. Legal where constructed.