I helped mould 3 sets of plane cockpit windows, we pull formed them over plugs copied from the cut outs less the material and sealant thickness, 3 sets to pick the most optically correct ones for final assembly plus 2 sets for dry fitting/cutting testing etc. It is a very long winded process to get them right and without stress distortions in them,. Your choice of dark acrylic will help conceal the edge if it's a bit wonky assuming you are using Black Sika or the like. You both are doing a great job, keep doing something every day and you'll get there soon.
May I suggest you get two made as it will be cheaper to do two and store one away. Those windows will need replacing 10yrs from now as they will for. A spider web effect on the Perspex glass due to hot and cold cycling.
Those salon windows are looking great. I am also outside of Melbourne (North East), I wonder where you are and where you will launch and conduct your sea trials? Good luck!
Very exciting! I’ve been watching several projects from around the world. Great to be able to watch an ambitious project on my doorstep. Will you continue to be Melbourne based when she is finished?
My husband loves the video's, I'm listenig to your story whilst he is watching the video's. It's an amazing job you're doing! What I'd like to know is a something different: what is the title and performer of the music you play at the start of your video's. I love the music and can't find it anywhere.
Marc Robillard - forever young We use Artlist for all our music for now. Thanks 🙏 and thanks for watching. We really appreciate the time you take to watch and to connect with us. Thanks again
@@buildingwilda Thanks. I remember seeing another sailing channel that had issues with the glue sticking when they were installing windows. I think it was Sailing Life on Jupiter but can't remember. Hopefully you got the correct stuff.
There is a good reason why the new cats build these days have the front windows build vertically. Because those 3D curved windows are a "bitch" to make, fit and install, $$$$. I just did my windows on a Schionning Wilderness 1500. I have seen a number of curved windows, they all leak after a while. Many fixes don't last. The ones that add fasteners to hold the window in place and the Sikaflex seem to be doing better. I abandoned cutting the sheets with a grinder. After making templates out of doors-skin material, meaning 1/8" plywood. I was able to use a wood router to finish cut the windows very fast and accurately, including a 1.5 mm 45deg bevel. We did not have the luxury of a kiln to heat big window sheets. It needed to be done in place. I made some small rubber plugs with a holepunch to space the acrylic off the frame recess, placed them strategically in different places. We used every 300 to 380mm a countersunk M5 screw to position the window plane correctly in place. The curved bends were produced with a heat gun, with lots of time and patients. The window ledge, meaning the area where the acrylic touches the window frame is approx. 50 to 60mm wide. the thickness of the Sikaflex is anywhere from 5 to 8mm thick applied, the acrylic is 10mm. The previous mentioned rubber pucks/spacers had different thicknesses, with the M5's we were able to pull the glass accurately to the right depth so that the windows were nice a flush in their frame recesses. No where to proud or to low. The holes in the acrylic was drilled oversized, with the idea that the expansion of the different materials, with different colors, have enough room to do so. The Sikaflex "should" be soft enough to handle the expansion, according to a test I made with a 1m long piece, tropic sun +45C vs freezer -2C..... It is interesting to see your out of the box ideas and thinking, I might have some concerns in some cases, but unless you give it a shot you will never find out. There are always chances to rework and change. Kudos for trying and good luck.
Sounds like you got the windows in nicely! Well done! We'll go without fasteners. I hope they will be ok. The expansion is pretty massive! Even on the relatively small windows of our boat. I hear up to 2%, that's a lot. Anyway... We picked up the last window today. Sadly we'll have to delay the install a bit, but now they all look good. Where is your boat? Maybe we'll meet up at sea some time! Thanks for watching
It's a Schoening ... World renown designers and suppliers of Catamarans and self build kits. The intro says that it was largely built and then was left for many years before these two found it and decided to awake and finish the sleeping beauty.. Project Lynx is another Schoening.. that's underway from scratch in the US but at an earlier stage and they are working out doors .
The windows are always very time consuming, well done she is looking great
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Looking sharp. There’s only one way to do that job. Bloody carefully! As the saying goes you can’t put it back on.
Yes... Loooong story
She looks like Jupiter 2 from lost in space.... Great job.👍
Maybe a little bit 🤣
Couldn't make her look like Scar from BSG 🤣
@@buildingwilda "Danger Will Robinson, Danger"
Looking great guys. Can't wait to see what is next. 👍😎
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Wilda is looking awesome! Great progress!
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The windows make her look spectacular.
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She really does look pretty sharp!
I’m really looking forward to the propulsion units installation👌😎
So are we!
I helped mould 3 sets of plane cockpit windows, we pull formed them over plugs copied from the cut outs less the material and sealant thickness, 3 sets to pick the most optically correct ones for final assembly plus 2 sets for dry fitting/cutting testing etc. It is a very long winded process to get them right and without stress distortions in them,. Your choice of dark acrylic will help conceal the edge if it's a bit wonky assuming you are using Black Sika or the like. You both are doing a great job, keep doing something every day and you'll get there soon.
Thanks 🙏
Very tricky. And yes, there is a bit of wonkiness to hide 🤣
Looks like a spaceship.
A bonafide, spaceship.
🤣 love it!
Was going for Scar from BSG 🤣 Not quite there though 🤣
The front curved windows are tricky to fit. Little bit at a time. Slowly and carefully. In/out multiple times. Step back and observe. Very close.
Very tricky... Not as close as it looks ..
I appreciate that you are patiently working with local vendors where possible. Both parties learn and benefit together.
May I suggest you get two made as it will be cheaper to do two and store one away. Those windows will need replacing 10yrs from now as they will for. A spider web effect on the Perspex glass due to hot and cold cycling.
Thanks.
Yeah... Something to think about. But we are hoping to get 20 years out of them. And no bolting.
Looking good.
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Nice work!
Thank you! Cheers!
Kiitos paljon 🤣
Those salon windows are looking great. I am also outside of Melbourne (North East), I wonder where you are and where you will launch and conduct your sea trials? Good luck!
We're down south east. Not far from Western port.
We can launch where we are. Up a little tidal creek, a ramp where the shed is.
Then trials around french island and I. Port Philip Bay.
Very exciting! I’ve been watching several projects from around the world. Great to be able to watch an ambitious project on my doorstep. Will you continue to be Melbourne based when she is finished?
For a while, we probably will. Shake down and sorting things out... Then head up the east coast and off to the rest of the world! (The warm bits) 🤣
My husband loves the video's, I'm listenig to your story whilst he is watching the video's. It's an amazing job you're doing! What I'd like to know is a something different: what is the title and performer of the music you play at the start of your video's. I love the music and can't find it anywhere.
Marc Robillard - forever young
We use Artlist for all our music for now.
Thanks 🙏 and thanks for watching. We really appreciate the time you take to watch and to connect with us.
Thanks again
God that looks really good. What a legend. How long should they last before you will need to replace them and what glue do you use to mount them?
Hopefully 20 years or so.
Using PU construction adhesive and glazing tape.
@@buildingwilda Thanks. I remember seeing another sailing channel that had issues with the glue sticking when they were installing windows. I think it was Sailing Life on Jupiter but can't remember. Hopefully you got the correct stuff.
Difficult with the curve in the windows.
More than we could have thought...
How did you do the window cut outs with the smaller recessed area the plexiglass sits onto so the windows are flush with salon
There is a plywood frame on the inside 40mm smaller than the cur outs. This is where we will glue the window in.
There is a good reason why the new cats build these days have the front windows build vertically. Because those 3D curved windows are a "bitch" to make, fit and install, $$$$.
I just did my windows on a Schionning Wilderness 1500. I have seen a number of curved windows, they all leak after a while.
Many fixes don't last. The ones that add fasteners to hold the window in place and the Sikaflex seem to be doing better.
I abandoned cutting the sheets with a grinder. After making templates out of doors-skin material, meaning 1/8" plywood. I was able to use a wood router to finish cut the windows very fast and accurately, including a 1.5 mm 45deg bevel.
We did not have the luxury of a kiln to heat big window sheets. It needed to be done in place. I made some small rubber plugs with a holepunch to space the acrylic off the frame recess, placed them strategically in different places. We used every 300 to 380mm a countersunk M5 screw to position the window plane correctly in place. The curved bends were produced with a heat gun, with lots of time and patients.
The window ledge, meaning the area where the acrylic touches the window frame is approx. 50 to 60mm wide. the thickness of the Sikaflex is anywhere from 5 to 8mm thick applied, the acrylic is 10mm.
The previous mentioned rubber pucks/spacers had different thicknesses, with the M5's we were able to pull the glass accurately to the right depth so that the windows were nice a flush in their frame recesses. No where to proud or to low. The holes in the acrylic was drilled oversized, with the idea that the expansion of the different materials, with different colors, have enough room to do so. The Sikaflex "should" be soft enough to handle the expansion, according to a test I made with a 1m long piece, tropic sun +45C vs freezer -2C.....
It is interesting to see your out of the box ideas and thinking, I might have some concerns in some cases, but unless you give it a shot you will never find out. There are always chances to rework and change. Kudos for trying and good luck.
Sounds like you got the windows in nicely! Well done!
We'll go without fasteners. I hope they will be ok. The expansion is pretty massive! Even on the relatively small windows of our boat. I hear up to 2%, that's a lot.
Anyway... We picked up the last window today. Sadly we'll have to delay the install a bit, but now they all look good.
Where is your boat? Maybe we'll meet up at sea some time!
Thanks for watching
@@buildingwilda I will send you a private email
Is Wilda based on a major design or is she a one off? Did you do the initial build or did you get her as someone else’s project?
It's a Schoening ... World renown designers and suppliers of Catamarans and self build kits.
The intro says that it was largely built and then was left for many years before these two found it and decided to awake and finish the sleeping beauty..
Project Lynx is another Schoening.. that's underway from scratch in the US but at an earlier stage and they are working out doors .
A Schionning Wilderness 1340X
A light and fast sailing boat.
in what year was this cat built?
Building her now.
Technically a new build 🤣